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ModeratorWait. Macklemore just dropped Hindâs Hall.
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ModeratorI believe Corum gets pass pro and blitz pick up, he just hasnât done it much or at all at the pro level.
Let me just speculate that he hasn’t done it at a pro level because he hasn’t played at the pro level. Spitballin’ here.
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ModeratorPFF’s full report:
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-grades-16-nfc-teams-nfl-2024
LOS ANGELES RAMS: B+
- 1 (19): EDGE Jared Verse, Florida State
- 2 (39): DL Braden Fiske, Florida State
- 3 (83): RB Blake Corum, Michigan
- 3 (99): S Kamren Kinchens, Miami Fl.
- 5 (154): EDGE Brennan Jackson, Washington State
- 6 (196): DI Tyler Davis, Clemson
- 6 (209): K Joshua Karty, Stanford
- 6 (213): WR Jordan Whittington, Texas
- 6 (217): C Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
- 7 (254): IOL KT Leveston, Kansas State
Verse â The Rams desperately needed edge help, and they select arguably the best power rusher in the class. Verse burst onto the scene over the past two years at Florida State, ranking second among Power Five edge rushers in pass-rush win rate. The Rams use their highest selection since 2016 to reset their pass rush after Aaron Donaldâs retirement.
Fiske â Los Angeles gives up significant draft capital to move up and get their Aaron Donald âreplacement,â pairing Fiske back up with college teammate Jared Verse. Fiske has limited length (31-inch arms), but heâs a very good athlete who has the quickness to get into the backfield regularly. Fiskeâs grading profile did take a step back after transferring to Florida State, with his 73.9 PFF grade a dip from the 88.6 PFF grade he put up in his final season at Western Michigan in 2022.
Corum â After racking up 27 touchdowns and earning an 83.4 rushing grade for Michigan last season, Corum should push for significant touches right off the bat in the Ramsâ multiple run schemes. Corum offers elite vision and change-of-direction ability, two things clearly valued by head coach Sean McVay, as Kyren Williams brings a similar skill set.
Kinchens â Kinchensâ 11 interceptions since 2022 are the most at the position. Kinchens is a well-rounded athlete with good awareness and instincts at the safety position. While heâs on the lighter and smaller side, Kinchensâ ball skills enable him to profile well to a deep free safety role in the NFL. His 90.0 grade in 2022 ranked fifth in all of college football.
Jackson â Jackson tallied 83 total pressures over the past two seasons with an impressive 16 sacks. He also showed an ability to bat passes down, notching seven during his career at Washington State.
Davis â Davis was a monster against the run in college. His 90.8 run-defense grade in 2023 was the best of his career, and his 91.1 run-defense grade over the past two seasons was the third-best among interior defenders in this draft class.
Karty â Karty graded higher than Alabamaâs Will Reichard (who was drafted a few spots before him) since 2021. His 97.0 PFF grade on field goals and extra points since 2021 led all of college football, and he went 24-of-27 on field goals of at least 40 yards over the past two seasons.
Whittington â Whittington is one of PFF lead draft analyst Trevor Sikkemaâs favorite late-round receivers. His 27 missed tackles forced after the catch since 2022 ranked third among Big 12 receivers in that span.
Limmer â The Rams get solid value in Limmer here in the sixth round. He earned a 74.0-plus PFF grade in each of the past three seasons. He is a better run blocker than a pass blocker and is coming off a season where he led all draft-eligible centers in PFF run-blocking grade on gap plays (77.4).
Leveston â The Rams continue bulking up their trenches with the selection of KT Leveston out of Kansas State. He allowed 18 pressures on 430 pass-blocking snaps at left tackle in 2023, but his frame and movement skills likely make him a guard at the next level.
April 30, 2024 at 2:17 pm in reply to: Rams off-season assessments & rankings & early previews #150681Zooey
ModeratorGeneral manager Les Snead, whose stepson is a long snapper at Texas (Whittingtonâs alma mater), gushed about the receiver and said everybody in the building referred to him as the Longhornsâ âheartbeat.â
I take that pretty seriously, and that’s encouraging insight.
And…on another note, I look at the CB depth chart, and it occurs to me that the Rams must like the look of that. Also encouraging. Because there were guys they could have drafted, but didn’t. Their safeties are suddenly looking pretty damn good with the additions of Curl and Kinchens, and their versatility is important. If they get competent work from Williams and White, any growth Durant and Kendrick show will be bonus.
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Moderatoriâm still holding out hope donald pulls a brady and decides to come back⊠the thought of playing next to fiske and verse has to be running through his mind a little bit. a little bit.
I have wondered that, too. Wouldnt shock me if he showed up for the playoffs, if the Rams made it. w v
Yeah, I’m gonna say “Nah” to that.
I nursed that hope a little back when I was in one of the 5 stages of grief: what is it? Denial?
Here’s the thing: Aaron Donald knows as well as we do that the Rams are in the hunt this season. If he was driven by the allure of a second ring, he wouldn’t have retired in the first place. He has to know that the table is set for a legit run this season. The thing about Donald, the thing that separates him from all the other greats, is that he really was truly driven internally. Not that he didn’t care about about the DPOY awards, the Super Bowl, and all the externals. But I think that – at his core – he was simply driven to be the absolute best he could personally be. And he did it. For 10 years.
He has the knowledge that he did his best, that he was one of the best to ever do it, and he has awards, a championship, $100 million, and a couple of cute kids. And it’s time to move on.
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ModeratorHow did the Daily Bugler rank the Rams draft?
Ah, geez. I read that and responded on my phone, and now I come back, and I read what you actually wrote.
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ModeratorBrugler rated the Falcons draft as the worst, and he seems to share the consensus opinion that drafting Penix was a mind-bogglingly dumb pick.
How did the Daily Bugler rank the Rams draft?
24
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Moderator{Sigh}
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ModeratorBrugler rated the Falcons draft as the worst, and he seems to share the consensus opinion that drafting Penix was a mind-bogglingly dumb pick.
I guess I’m the only one who differs. Now, I should say that I don’t know anything about Penix other than that he was spoken of as one of the top 5 or 6 QBs in the draft class, and apparently throws darts. But the criticism is less about Penix than it is that the Falcons just signed Cousins to a 4-yr enormous deal.
But as I understand it, Cousins’ contract is front-loaded, and they can unload him after 2 years. Cousins will be 36 this season.
So I think this is a great pick by Atlanta. Cousins is good enough that he will probably lead the Falcons to worse draft positions the next two years. And if I’m the GM of Atlanta, that’s MY plan. To get better. So in a couple of years, you could be looking at an Atlanta team in a bad draft position that needs a starting QB. What’s better than having a good QB that’s had a couple years to sit and learn, and spot start some games, and is ready to take the reins? I mean…look at how drafting Jordan Love turned out for GB. It’s a good strategy. We often see teams draft a highly-touted QB and sign an old vet to be the placeholder and mentor, and that’s generally acknowledged to be smart. So why is it different if they signed the vet first, and then drafted for the future? Looks to me like Atlanta set itself up for a pretty solid 5+ years at the most important position on the team, and frankly, I hope the Rams draft a QB next year pretty high.
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ModeratorEach pick was highly regarded and for a position of need. No reaches. Hard to find fault with it.
That’s the way I see it. No basketball players drafted to convert to TEs, or QBs into WRs.
Dane Brugler, over at The Athletic, ranked all the drafts by teams, and he placed the Rams at 24 (and the 9ers at 25), fwiw, but I don’t find anything the Rams did (or didn’t do) to quibble with. They drafted for need, and all their picks “check out.” The only bit of a surprise to me is that they didn’t spend one of their top picks on a CB. They let Cooper DeJean slide by, but it’s impossible for me to find fault with that when they picked Fiske, who looks like a high-motor disruptor who “cares about football.” I’m kind of tickled by the pairing of him and Verse. I can see no head-scratchers in this draft which could turn out to be a highly productive one. They even got a kicker.
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ModeratorHe hopes to be back sometime this week.
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ModeratorMaybe the Rams are looking to make up for Donald with quantity, instead of quality. Donald was worth two guys, so maybe the Rams strategy is to just play 12 guys on defense. It could work.
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ModeratorCONCERNS There are concerns and 1st on the list is medical. Number two on the list is his style of tackling and how that style leads to injuries. He is not a sure tackler, going head first to tackle and looking for the big hit. When he comes from deep to make a tackle itâs impressive but it is also disturbing. I think he has the athletic talent to cover but his mental makeup to make the big play, will not allow him to stay with the receiver down the field long enough without leaving them to make a big play on another receiver. If Iâm right, he will be taken advantage of if used as a cover safety unless he can learn that he is not the only player on the field.
Well, unless the guy has a IQ of 50, that’s coachable. All of it.
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ModeratorI thought you knew.
We traded him to the 9er board for “future considerations.”
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ModeratorI will say…and this is kinda funny…I watched a reel of Verse late last night, and I kept thinking, “That 55 guy sure is in the mix a lot.”
That’s kinda funny.
In fact, on the first coupla plays, I thought Verse WAS #55, cuz it was 55 that seemed to blow it up.
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ModeratorI don’t love giving up next years’ 2nd in addition to this year’s plus change. 2 Seconds to move up a dozen places seems high, but I dunno. I always think the Rams give up to much, and get too little in return.
Whatever. If the guy turns out to be better than Aaron Donald, I won’t complain for very long.
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ModeratorRams first three Draft picks contributed to championship teams that combined to go 28-1 last season.
Well, that’s sumthin.
On Corum, I don’t remember seeing his name pre-draft, but “Blake is a strong multi-talented running back who reminds me a lot of former Giants Joe Morris.”
I’ll take Joe Morris with a 3rd round pick.
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Moderatorapparently rams were interested in trading up to get bowers?
Maybe. Maybe not.
They made calls about moving up and moving down, but that’s just doing your job. And was it Bowers? Or is that what they figured was a plausible distraction. Maybe they were just getting a temperature of the room. I woulda been pissed if they traded up for Bowers; I don’t care how good he is.
I also wonder how the Rams had their board stacked. If they had the choice between Latu, Murphy, Turner, or Verse, who would they have taken?
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ModeratorI will say though that if Iâm not mistaken the combine does not measure âpowerâ.  It measures agility and speed, etc.  Iâm not sure its quite accurate to say Verse is not very athletic.  Power and relentlessness seem to be important athletic traits to me.
Well, you wouldn’t confuse Kevin Greene for Von Miller based on his agility, but dude made some QBs’ nightmares. I don’t know if that’s a fair comparison or not (Greene), but I’d spend a #19 on Kevin Greene. But just remember it was zn who staked his reputation on that comparison. Said he was Kevin Greene but with more speed and power, I believe.
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Moderatori really like cooper dejean. rams would have to trade up to get him though.
Yeah, he’s not going to last, and neither will McKinstry.
I expect Round 2 will start with a run on D players.
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ModeratorI don’t know how Verse compares with the other guys – Turner, Robinson, Latu – but I’m not surprised to see this:
âYou can tell he cares about football.”
I think Donald left behind that perspective as a parting gift to the organization. I don’t expect McSnead to ever draft a potato farmer.
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ModeratorâHeâs a much better version of Kayvon ThibodeauxâŠâ
High praise for FSU DE Jared Verse from @GregCosell: pic.twitter.com/WVUK2zUFOm
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) April 24, 2024
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ModeratorThey need to draft a DT named Vice, now.
I was thinking a guy named Chapter.
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ModeratorThe radio talkers this morning mentioned that the draft drops off more than usual after the first 150.
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ModeratorMy first football hero.
Yup. Wish he and the fearsome foursome and Snow and the rest could have gotten a Ring. w v
I wish they had got six rings in a row.
Sometimes I wonder why you bother to call yourself a Rams fan.
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ModeratorMy first football hero.
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