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ZooeyModeratorI got a Fat One Dollar Bill right here that says Robey-Coleman signs with the Saints.
Any takers?
ZooeyModeratorI heard the Rams cut everybody.
ZooeyModeratorWell, I’m going to have to check my jam-packed workday calendar to see what’s up at that time…………………………………
nothin’.
Should I spend 30 minutes watching a 10-second reveal?
Uhhhh…no.
Although…by Monday…could be ready for some intense action like that. Hard to say.
ZooeyModeratorTrump’s Coronavirus Calendar
https://therecount.com/watch/trump-coronavirus-calendar/2645515793
ZooeyModeratorThe worst thing about the revelation that all these politicians knew in advance how bad this could be is that they’ve probably been protecting themselves from getting it. I mean…I have a mental list all prepared for some obituaries I am all ready to read, and these guys probably aren’t going to get it, and if they do, they will have the best medical care in the world (provided by socialist health care).
March 20, 2020 at 2:49 pm in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112706
ZooeyModeratorRe: “Lifting people out of poverty.”
I think the mistake people make…and it’s really dead easy to see why they make it…is that capitalism is obviously good because we have cars, air conditioning, microwave ovens, and smartphones.
Of course they attribute those products to capitalism because we didn’t have them prior to capitalism, and communist countries did not have widespread consumer goods available.
Why on earth would it ever occur to anybody that those things could have…WOULD have…been developed under another economic system. By and large, very few humans question the facts of their existences. You know…we have the entire human mindset to go up against (zn might disagree with that), but I just see humans as very limited creatures.
I was at a store yesterday purchasing a snake because my drains are clogged and we can’t shit or shower at home until I fix it, and I’m sick of renting them every year or two. Tree roots get in my lines, and as expensive as snakes are, long term it makes more sense to just buy one of ’em. Anyway, the 40-year old checker was talking to the 30-year old guy right in front of me in the checkout line, and they are both talking about how coronavirus is overblown and shutting down the country is a panic-stricken over-reaction.
And I’m just looking at two physically-fit single males with no dependents, and maybe no parents they care about, just believing that their world view is universal.
My musical director was under chemo last year, and has a heart something-thingie plugged into her chest. One of her sons has a respiratory weakness, and one of her daughters has immune deficiency. Three people in one house who could die if they catch covid-19 if the hospitals are full because the two fuckfaces in line in front of me won’t alter their behavior in any way.
Then there is all the doublethink and hypocrisy that is so common in humans. People just don’t think straight. They don’t question their assumptions. They are not even aware they HAVE assumptions. So…how are we supposed to get around when the entire culture shares an ideology and believes that they don’t?
ZooeyModeratorI am not going to hit Play on that. There is no WAY you can make me watch that. I am offended that you brought this to the board.
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So schools are not cancelled in Calif?Schools are closed here.
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vNot cancelled. We are doing Remote Learning. Everything is internet-based. That isn’t possible everywhere, obviously. I’m sure in WV, a lot of people don’t even have phone lines, let alone DSL like you do.
ZooeyModeratorI work in a hospital so I go to work as usual. I’m QA Supervisor and Microbiology Lead for the clinical lab. As you can imagine we’ve been especially busy with COVID-19 stuff (my hospital provides drive-up specimen collection for people suspected of having it).
I thought there was a big shortage of tests. I was wondering how Idris Elba got tested when he claims he has no symptoms.
ZooeyModeratorI am spending all day at school every day, trying to make the best of this situation. Mostly I am struggling with a never-ending parade of technical difficulties, and learning to do new things with tech toys.
I have been too busy doing that to actually figure out how to change the format of various assignments, and because I teach multiple classes that are completely different, I have to do all that for each class, unlike a teacher who may have 3 sections of the same thing, so they convert their stuff once for the entire lot of kids.
ZooeyModeratorCoincidentally, I ordered a submarine from Bazooka for ten comics and a buck, or something like that.
It was a spring loaded submarine that fired a torpedo an inch or so when I pushed a trigger. I remember being pleased. I sank many a Nazi battleship with it.
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ZooeyModeratorSometimes I feel like I’m in the warm up band for the Four Horsemen.
I saw the smoke from the World Trade Center on 9/11. I live in Sandy Hook, CT. We were in Boston looking at schools for the Marathon Bombing.This too shall pass. It may kill some of us, it may kill all of us but just remember; we’ll always have ’99.
‘Zine it.
That may be the greatest post ever written.
ZooeyModeratorI’m not sure I buy any of it. I sent some spit to 23 and Me last month and found out I have more Neanderthal DNA than 66% of their clients. If I have all that troglodyte DNA, then why did I need braces when I was a kid? I’d like to see your precious James Nestor answer that!
Do you have any recollection of getting punched in the face a lot in school?
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March 13, 2020 at 4:53 pm in reply to: notes from expert panel on the virus & other expert views #112227
ZooeyModeratorI read that even as more test kits come in, our facilities can run only about 1,000 tests/day anyway.
But since there is nothing much that can be done for patients apart from IVs and comfort care, I’m not sure testing really makes that much difference. I don’t know what can be done except for everyone to stay away from crowds, wash hands all the time, and stop breathing.
I hope RBG is in a bubble tent.
ZooeyModeratorHere is the Krystal Ball bit in full that expresses the attitude of the Left these days, what I was talking about up above. (wv’s Jimmy Dore video makes the same point, but in a meandering, 20 minute version). The Left came out and voted for Hillary in 2016, and got scapegoated for her loss as a reward. The Left is not in the mood for that anymore. As Krystal Ball notes, if Biden loses, we are going to get blamed anyway, just like last time. And every time we support another loser like Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Biden…what do we get for our vote, exactly? What do we get?
We get…”Hey, the other guy is worse.”
That’s what we get. That is the SOLE extent of the entire reward package the Democrats lavish on us.
People are pissed now. And I think you absolutely WILL see a decrease in Leftist turnout for Biden this time.
I’m sorry. As Ball says, if you think we always have to pick a “safe” candidate who will appeal to moderates…go right ahead. Just look how well that has worked out for you in the past. Democrats are CHOOSING to play to the “middle” (whatever THAT is supposed to even mean) because they think that is the Smart Play.
It’s not. It’s NOT the smart play if you want to win. Look at how many times your Safe Play has lost. Tell me why you think that’s a good strategy, playing it towards the middle. Obama broke through because he spoke the language of progressive (though nobody on this board was fooled for even a second because we were sharing the opensecrets information on where his financing was coming from), and he got black voters to turn out. That was what put him over – voter turnout.
And – clearly – the vigorous voter turnout is on Sanders’ side. ALL the polls show him beating Trump by a wider margin than any other candidate, and the Democrats rally everybody to support Biden, and get the compliant liberal media to echo the talking point – “Biden is the more electable.” We know that isn’t true. It’s false. Polls tell us it is false. But we’ve been told for so long, so many times that we have to put up someone from the conservative wing of the party if we want to win. Consequence: Loss after Loss after Loss.
This is because the DNC would rather lose to Trump than win with Sanders. THEY are to blame for this. The media will blame the Left. And THIS time they will at least most likely have evidence that supports that. And when the DNC actually BELIEVES that the Left cost them the election, maybe THEN it will start to do something about it.
This also contains the critique of Sanders from the Left. Like I said elsewhere, I think he is the wrong messenger for the right message, and looks like my fiance agrees with me.
ZooeyModeratorI saw that outfit yesterday, and it did deter me. Krystal Ball suddenly leaped back into the 80s, and after a one minute, I opened a different tab and just listened to her because the visual was just so distracting.
I noticed the Anger, too.
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You really think Biden is a lesser candidate than Hillary? I dont agree on that. From what I’ve heard (on Fox news Hillary’s ‘negatives’ are WAY higher than Bidens. Biden is just this ‘bland’ drab, boring, typical Dem. Like John Kerry, Al Gore, Dukakis.
BUT, he worked with/for OBAMA. And he doesnt have the big negatives Hillary had.
Centrists, conservative-professional-moderate-Reps, and Dems are not gonna care that he’s senile. They dont care. They just want the National-Security-Ship-Of-State to run smoothly. A senile President can do that just fine. (Think Radar and Colonel Blake)It all comes down to Progressives. If they hold their noses and vote for that lowlife CIA-loving, pro-corporate, imperialist, murderous, shitbag – Joe Biden will be the next President.
And btw, I jus wanna make it clear that i TOTALLY respect the view that progressives should or will vote for the lesser evil, and thus vote for the murderous imperialist Joe Biden. Its a perfectly reasonable decision. Chomsky has talked endlessly about it over the years. I’ve done it myself in the past.
For me personally, though, there came a time i just decided i wont do it anymore.
Its got nothing to do with WV being a Red-State or any other ‘calculation’ like that. Its hard to explain. Its a conscience thing. Coupled with a recognition of what the system is. Frankly I may not even vote at all the rest of my life. I havent decided on that. I lean toward voting Green, but i may not vote anymore.
…my vote has moved to Thailand, perhapsPS — this virus could put the nation in a bad mood. Not good for Trump.
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vI don’t know for sure what you mean by “lesser candidate.”
Hillary had historically high negatives, much higher than Biden. But Hillary has more “gravitas” than Biden. She projects greater command.
Biden is vulnerable because he appears “empty,” and trips on his on thoughts.
But I wouldn’t call him “senile.” I think that is way over-stating his mental health. Biden has brain farts. But he is mentally sound otherwise. Mentally, he is superior to Trump. He is FAR more likely to make decisions rationally than Trump is. However, I think Trump will is a greater showman than Biden by several miles. Trump will be able, imo, to make Biden look foolish. He couldn’t do that with Hillary. He could make her symbolize corruption, and the Establishment, but he couldn’t make her look foolish. I think Trump WILL make Biden look foolish.
I don’t think Biden IS foolish.
I think he will LOOK foolish.
Final note: If you EVER dispute me in public again, I will be forced to respond in a congenial way. I’m warning you.
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ZooeyModeratorI dunno. I dunno anything anymore.
Biden was absolutely dead in the water. We all saw it. Then the Democrat Party – proving for the first time in decades – that it actually DOES know how to fight for something it believes in – rallied everybody together in the party and the media behind Joe Biden, and push-started his car. The strategy now is to have him sit down and shut up while the media runs his campaign for him, and it worked again on Tuesday.
The market is crashing like Jericho right now.
Who the hell knows what’s gonna happen.
I agree with what zn said about Biden. To me he is Hillary with half the wits.
I’ve already said 3 times that my vote is irrelevant in California, so I don’t have a decision of conscience to make. But I will say that out there on the internet, I am seeing a lot of progressives say they won’t rally behind Biden this time. Statistically, they turned out for Hillary in 2016, and they got blamed for the loss anyway, and that has created resentment. And I am seeing a LOT of them saying they won’t do it this time. Now…what people say in March, a long distance away from the actual election, may very well reflect their feelings more than anything else, and not be a rock solid attitude, but I think Waterfield is right to be worried about a tepid turnout from progressives. Maybe it will be balanced out by a higher turnout from blacks who didn’t vote in 2016, but I haven’t seen any analysis on that.
In short, Biden is a weak candidate, and with 4 years of Trump, it is a serious clusterfuck on the DNC’s part that Joe Biden is the guy to be the champion of the party. He is a symptom of the rot in the Democrat party.
Bernie Sanders is a rare man in politics, and he is the kind of politician literally everybody says they ideally want: honest and dependable. The fact that this man – who has spent his entire life fighting on behalf of poor and marginalized people – has been smeared for 4 years by the Democrat establishment as a sexist threat to democracy, tells you everything you need to know about how much the Democrat party actually cares about ordinary people.
ZooeyModeratorHow cool is that.
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Whatever chance he has ‘may’ come down to a couple of debates. Maybe Biden just implodes er somethin. Doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
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vWhich is why the DNC is changing the debate format so they don’t debate. They have the lead now, so they are going to sit on the ball, and run out the clock.
From now on, it’s Town Halls. A nice, safe place for Uncle Joe to be innocuous and charming without having to take any real heat from moderators or from Sanders. He will just to come in and smile, and hope he put his pants on right side out.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t see either one of them beating Trump, but Sanders has a better chance.
Biden is not a guy who can take abuse. Remember how he folded up against Kamala? And Trump specializes in that kind of abuse. Mocking people is his forte. Wagging the dog is what Trump does best. Biden will be sorry he’s still alive after facing Trump. I’m ALREADY sorry for him.
What is Biden running FOR? Associate ANYTHING with Biden. Go ahead. I dare you.
His platform is “I’m not Trump” and “I’m friends with Obama.” Name one other thing.
Now, I am sure his team will compose some lovely Glittering Generalities to photoshop onto his image, but those will wilt, and look ridiculous under the studio lights. This guy is Hillary Clinton without the accomplishments, talent, wit, or composure. What on earth makes anybody think he can perform better than Hillary did?
This is the end. Biden will not only reassure 4 more years of Trump, he will probably cost us any chance of taking the Senate, so we are fucked. Ginsburg is going to be replaced by Stephen Miller or Heinrich Himmler. It’s over. Nothing left to do but go watch the planet die from a bamboo bungalow in Thailand.
March 8, 2020 at 1:20 pm in reply to: just some “no thread for em” various political tweets … 2/25 thru ? #112055
ZooeyModeratorSomehow I think that if he had endorsed Biden, the tweet would say, “Welcome back to the fold, Professor West.”

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