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znModeratorReport: Rams have talked to multiple teams about trading Jared Goff https://t.co/0Q4oBHRea4
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 30, 2021
znModeratorAre the Rams a viable option for Stafford? https://t.co/Pt0xVTcDhY
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) January 30, 2021
znModeratorfrom https://theathletic.com/2355103/2021/01/29/rams-quarterback-trade-jared-goff/
A source said Friday that the Rams have started exploratory talks with multiple teams, both in regard to trading Jared Goff and about bringing a new quarterback to the Rams.
That means if the Rams deem a quarterback worth trading for and are able to execute such a transaction, they would be willing to eat $22.2 million in dead-cap money, plus the new quarterback’s salary. They also could trade Goff after June 1 (an extremely rare scenario, though there is league precedent) for a relatively small total of $6.8 million in dead money in 2021 (plus $15.4 million in 2022).
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Maybe, if they’re fortunate, the Rams can find a QB who has won an NFC championship game!Joe Curley@vcsjoecurley
How about who’s won one on the road, like in a really difficult indoor building.Jeremy Fowler@JFowlerESPN
Sources: Matthew Stafford considers the Rams a viable contender in his trade market with the Lions. While it’s unclear what the Rams can do with Jared Goff’s long-term deal on the books, they’ve explored the possibilities with Stafford.Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
This could be very interesting given the new Lions front office familiarity with the Rams roster and money situation, if the two sides are able to come up with a deal.
znModeratorMahomes makes it look effortless 🎯 @PatrickMahomes @Chiefs (h/t @FB_FilmAnalysis) pic.twitter.com/378e9NIJid
— The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) January 29, 2021
znModerator6 potential cap casualties for the Rams this offseason https://t.co/YpRUCKGPAP
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) January 29, 2021
znModeratorIf production is the measuring stick for the Hall Of Fame….
“His first 10 years were the best in the history of the league of any receiver,’’ – Mike Martz on @BigGame81
Holt amassed the most receiving yards of any receiver for a single decade with 12,594 (2000–2009). pic.twitter.com/RDOx50QtC1
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) January 29, 2021
znModeratorAndy Dickerson becomes sixth Rams assistant coach to leave for new team, joining the Seahawks to become run game coordinator under Shane Waldron https://t.co/79od1qvkt8
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) January 29, 2021
January 28, 2021 at 11:26 pm in reply to: “where does this one go?” – the comic side of dystopia #127282
znModeratorIn a 2018 Facebook post, Marjorie Taylor Greene blamed California wildfires on a secret Jewish space laser https://t.co/AFznUzvx1P
— New York Magazine (@NYMag) January 28, 2021
znModeratorMichael Silver@MikeSilver
LA Rams assistant offensive line coach Andy Dickerson is heading to Seattle along with new Seahawks offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. Dickerson will be the Seahawks’ run-game coordinator. @AroundTheNFL @nflnetworkRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Andy Dickerson, incidentally, was the last coach remaining who worked under Jeff Fisher.Ray Agnew JR@PopsAgnew99
To the Rams organization !! Thank you for 23 awesome years ! I won a super bowl as a player and 2 NFC championship as an employee . But the thing I will miss the most is the people and the relationships . Big thanks to Les Snead!
znModeratorSo…is this related to the coaches leaving?
Because…if it is…we in trouble.
I will say I wondered about that.
The impression I get is that he’s a bit of a control freak. Head coaches need to delegate, I think.
znModeratorMan.
If this is true….
.If the @RamsNFL are trying to move on from @JaredGoff16, their strategic blueprint is a mystery (that's far from 'beautiful')… @nflnetwork @PatrickClaybon pic.twitter.com/vDPlfNa4Ic
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) January 27, 2021
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znModeratorSt. Loser Fan
D’Marco Farr was on 101.1 in St. Louis this morning.
He’s pretty much convinced Snead and McVay are just trying to motivate Goff.
znModeratorit seems to me that if McVay is a dick, we would have heard about it before
We have.
There’s been all sorts of signs of that.
znModeratorFrom NFL Now: #Rams QB Jared Goff has done so many good things in LA – 45 wins since 2017! – while John Wolford impressed during his short window. Expect an open QB competition in camp to help it shake out, I'm told. pic.twitter.com/mPSEuaDiF1
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 27, 2021
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znModeratorMore to come on this, but here's a quick news story on @AdamSchefter's report that the Seahawks plan to hire Shane Waldron as their next offensive coordinator: https://t.co/OpgKdmKpGI
— Brady Henderson (@BradyHenderson) January 27, 2021
znModeratorClash Of The Horns@RamfamPodcaster
Some of this is due to mcvay not promoting staffNFL Update@MySportsUpdate
Teams plucking from the #Rams:2021:
Brandon Staley: LAC HC
Brad Holmes: DET GM
Shane Waldron: SEA OC
Ray Agnew: DET assistant GM
Joe Barry: LAC LBs
Aubrey Pleasant: DET DBs2020:
John Fassel: DAL ST
Jed Fisch: NE QBs2019:
Zac Taylor: CIN HC2018:
Greg Olson: Raiders OC
Mark LaFleur: Tennessee OC, Green Bay HC
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Seattle is planning to hire Rams’ passing game coordinator Shane Waldron for its offensive coordinator job, per source. Waldron will take over for Brian Schottenheimer.Rams losing Waldron, Brad Holmes, Ray Agnew, Joe Barry and Aubrey Pleasant.
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Will be very interested to see how Shane Waldron does as an offensive coordinator. He was the Rams passing game coordinator in 2018 and added QB coach to title in 2019, but in 2020 Sean McVay hired Kevin O’Connell to be offensive coordinator and defacto QB coach.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Also Liam Coen is new offensive coordinator at Kentucky. And over the years under Sean McVay, Greg Olson has gone from @Rams QB coach to @Raiders OC & Matthew LaFleur went from Rams OC to @Titans OC to @packers
HC and Zac Taylor went from Rams WR coach/QB coach to @Bengals HC.January 27, 2021 at 1:18 am in reply to: “where does this one go?” – the comic side of dystopia #127238
znModeratorOn Newsmax, Rand Paul complains that liberals characterizing the Republican health care plan as being tantamount to "you get sick, and then you die" is just as much as incitement to violence as anything Trump said or did pic.twitter.com/Ch30vR5kIc
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 27, 2021
znModeratorSarina@sarina
GM Les Snead on roster evaluation:“We want to be a better offense, that includes Jared.” Adding, “It is way too early to get into specifics. Sean [McVay] definitely wants to make sure we get back to being more explosive, scoring more points, not turning the ball over as much.”
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
And, “He’s a Ram right now. He’s No. 2 in wins since he & Sean have partnered together. That’s been a heck of a partnership. What I do think is the REAL thing that should come out of this is, ‘hey, we want to be a better offense, and that includes Jared.’”Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams GM Les Snead says they want to keep the Brandon Staley defense that stemmed from Vic Fangio and that Raheem Morris will learn it, while also having the ability to mix in some of his own style.
znModerator14 draft prospects for Rams to watch at 2021 Senior Bowl https://t.co/TCznmm5Vh1
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) January 26, 2021
znModeratorHappy 71st @theblood85 pic.twitter.com/tAFxaU1uD6
— 𝐏𝐫𝐨 𝐅𝐨𝐨𝐭𝐛𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐉𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥🏈 (@NFL_Journal) January 26, 2021
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
[Pleasant & Barry] were both former coaching collegues of Sean McVay in Washington. In fact Pleasant coached under Raheem Morris, the Washington DB coach at the time, when McVay was on the Washington staff.
znModeratorDr. Fauci and Dr. Birx detail how Trump’s coronavirus response was even worse than we thought
The scientific faces of Trump’s failed coronavirus response wasted no time speaking out.https://www.vox.com/2021/1/25/22249050/fauci-birx-interviews-trump-coronavirus-response
It didn’t take long for the two scientific faces of former President Donald Trump’s failed coronavirus response to speak out about how dysfunctional efforts to curb the pandemic really were under the 45th president.
On the first weekend following Trump’s departure from the White House, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx — both members of the Trump White House coronavirus task force coordinated by Birx — did interviews with national media outlets in which they described a culture in the Trump White House that discounted scientific expertise and put a premium on the type of denialism that resulted in Trump continuing to hold packed political rallies even as coronavirus deaths and cases soared in the fall.
“We would say things like: ‘This is an outbreak. Infectious diseases run their own course unless one does something to intervene.’ And then he would get up and start talking about, ‘It’s going to go away, it’s magical, it’s going to disappear,’” Fauci told the New York Times.
Birx made similar comments to CBS during an interview with Face the Nation host Margaret Brennan, saying, “there were people [in the White House] who definitely believed that this was a hoax,” and adding that Trump had a penchant for listening to people who told him what he wanted to hear, even if that information had no scientific basis.
“I saw the president presenting graphs that I never made,” she said. “So I know that someone — someone out there, or someone inside — was creating a parallel set of data and graphics that were shown to the president. I don’t know to this day who, but I know what I sent up, and I know what was in his hands was different than that.”
Fauci corroborated that point, telling the Times that in the early days of the pandemic, he was “really concerned” to observe that Trump “was getting input from people who were calling him up, I don’t know who, people he knew from business, saying, ‘Hey, I heard about this drug, isn’t it great?’ or, ‘Boy, this convalescent plasma is really phenomenal.’”
“He would take just as seriously their opinion — based on no data, just anecdote — that something might really be important,” added Fauci. “It wasn’t just hydroxychloroquine, it was a variety of alternative-medicine-type approaches. It was always, ‘A guy called me up, a friend of mine from blah, blah, blah.’ That’s when my anxiety started to escalate.”
Birx’s tell-all represented an effort to rehabilitate her damaged reputation
Birx emerged from the Trump era with her reputation more in tatters than Fauci. While both of them went to pains to avoid contradicting the president in public, Birx’s tendency to effusively praise Trump, even as he touted unproven miracle cures and downplayed the severity of a pandemic that killed 400,000 Americans before he left office, made it seem that she was putting politics first.
Fauci did not share this tendency. He refused to disparage Trump, even given the chance, but did often contradict the former president publicly.
Unlike Fauci — who now serves as a medical adviser to President Joe Biden in addition to his role as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — Birx was not asked to join the Biden administration. This made her interview with CBS seem, in part, an effort to rehabilitate her image ahead of her forthcoming retirement from the federal government.
Birx became emotional when talking about her legacy and how it may end up being tarnished by her time coordinating the Trump White House’s coronavirus task force. She tried to push back on the perception that she at times was more concerned about staying in Trump’s good graces — something Fauci didn’t seem to care about — than she was about leveling with the American people.
Asked about an infamous incident during a press conference in which Trump suggested to her that disinfectant injections or sunlight treatments could be miracle cures for the coronavirus, Birx tried to minimize her role.
“I didn’t even know what to do in that moment,” she said, adding later: “People then want to define you by the moment.”
However, that was far from the only time Birx failed to correct bad information Trump was giving the public. There were numerous occasions in which she appeared to go out of her way to run interference for poor decisions Trump made, ranging from defending his refusal to wear a mask to cajoling the CDC to exclude presumed positive cases from the coronavirus death count. She told CBS she constantly considered resigning, but said she did not because she thought she could do more good from inside the government. Finally, she came to the conclusion “right before the election” that “I wasn’t getting anywhere.”
Birx claimed during the interview that Trump “appreciated the gravity” of the pandemic in March and April, only to lose focus as “the country began to open” and Election Day neared. While reporting from journalist Bob Woodward did reveal in September that Trump quickly came to the realization that the coronavirus posed a serious threat, what Birx’s claim overlooks is that Trump did not share these private beliefs with the American people.
Instead, he spent the earliest months of the pandemic saying the coronavirus would go away on its own “like a miracle” and dismissing efforts by Democrats to take it more seriously as “a hoax.” Fauci’s interview with the New York Times shed light on how Birx’s account revises history.
Fauci’s interview highlights Trump’s fundamental unfitness
While Birx made it seem as though Trump’s coronavirus response started strong, Fauci’s interview with the Times paints a picture of a president who was incapable of competently responding to a pandemic — and who engaged in magical thinking from the start.
“I would try to express the gravity of the situation, and the response of the president was always leaning toward, ‘Well, it’s not that bad, right?’ And I would say, ‘Yes, it is that bad,’” Fauci said. “It was almost a reflex response, trying to coax you to minimize it. Not saying, ‘I want you to minimize it,’ but, ‘Oh, really, was it that bad?’”
Those comments echo statements Fauci made last Thursday during his first public comments as a Biden adviser, when he characterized Trump’s departure from office as a breath of fresh air.
“One of the new things in this administration is if you don’t know the answer, don’t guess. Just say you don’t know the answer,” Fauci said during last Thursday’s press briefing, adding at another point that Trump’s touting of unproven and potentially dangerous “miracle cures” for the coronavirus was particularly “uncomfortable” for him, “Because they were not based in scientific fact.”
While Fauci tried to avoid directly rebuking Trump publicly, he did contradict his false claims about Covid-19 being as deadly as the flu and tried to correct the record when Trump would promote unproven treatments as possible cures for the coronavirus. He told the New York Times that even before Trump mused about firing him at one of his campaign rallies, he received death threats — and in one case, a letter containing powder.
“One day I got a letter in the mail, I opened it up and a puff of powder came all over my face and my chest,” he said.
“That was very, very disturbing to me and my wife because it was in my office,” he continued, adding that, thankfully, the substance turned out to be “a benign nothing.”
Fauci at one point expressed empathy for Birx because she had to deal on a daily basis with Scott Atlas — a neuroradiologist with no prior infectious disease expertise Trump brought into the White House as a coronavirus adviser. Atlas was a proponent of the discredited idea that the federal government should let the coronavirus infect as many people as possible.
“I tried to approach [Atlas] and say, ‘Let’s sit down and talk because we obviously have some differences,’” Fauci told the Times. “His attitude was that he intensively reviews the literature, we may have differences, but he thinks he’s correct. I thought, ‘Okay, fine, I’m not going to invest a lot of time trying to convert this person,’ and I just went my own way. But Debbie Birx had to live with this person in the White House every day, so it was much more of a painful situation for her.”
Atlas’s unwillingness to hear anything he didn’t want to hear was a characteristic he shared with Trump, who did his best to ignore his own CDC’s advice about gatherings, holding superspreader rallies during his failed reelection campaign, even as scientific experts warned that the US was heading into a winter in which cases and deaths would spike. Trump ended up in the hospital in early October after he contracted the virus, but even that experience didn’t chasten him.
As Fauci told the Times:
When [Trump] was in Walter Reed [hospital] and he was getting monoclonal antibodies, he said, “Tony, this really just made a big difference. I feel much, much better. This is really good stuff.” I didn’t want to burst his bubble, but I said, “Well, no, this is an N equals 1. You may have been starting to feel better anyway.” [In scientific literature, an experiment with just one subject is described as “n = 1.”] And he said, “Oh, no, no no, absolutely not. This stuff is really good. It just completely turned me around.” So I figured the better part of valor would be not to argue with him.
None of this is surprising — but it’s still notable
What Birx and Fauci said during their interviews isn’t necessarily surprising. We’ve long understood that the Trump White House’s coronavirus response was a disaster, especially when compared with countries like Australia and Japan that have done a much better job limiting infections and deaths. We’ve known that Trump has a tendency to engage in wishful thinking and has an aversion to scientific reasoning.
But what Birx’s and Fauci’s willingness to speak out in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s departure from office does illustrate is just how bad things were under the previous administration. It now falls upon the Biden administration to try to clean up the mess left behind after a year of politically motivated short-term thinking, in which public health experts like Fauci and Birx had to struggle on a daily basis with questions about whether it was worth it for them to keep showing up at work.
znModeratorRams CB coach Aubrey Pleasant leaves for more responsibility with Lions. https://t.co/MlyNLy41Wq
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) January 26, 2021
znModeratorThe Rams have lost CBs coach Aubrey Pleasant to the Lions, which is a huge loss for the secondary. https://t.co/cv7tf35dtO
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 26, 2021
znModeratorBig plays were aplenty in yesterday’s championship games, and it shows what speed could do for the Rams offense. They desperately need more of it in 2021. https://t.co/n4GPtzyPIm
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 25, 2021
January 25, 2021 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Trumpie behaviors (examples of that, plus comments on that) #127197
znModeratorGOP Sen. Josh Hawley wrote a column in defense of the Oklahoma City bomber when he was 15 https://t.co/0RxGi6ayof
— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) January 25, 2021
znModeratorDevlin Hodges says he's signed with the Rams https://t.co/sJx89zQX13
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 25, 2021
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