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znModeratorFavorite LA artist? š
Favorite LA athlete? šWelcome back home, @DeSeanJackson10. pic.twitter.com/fKBQ4qP9Kk
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) April 3, 2021
znModeratorTorry Holt was one of the most complete WRs in NFL history. @AllHands81
via @nflthrowbackpic.twitter.com/gh6tIFnuj4
— NFLonCBS (@NFLonCBS) April 7, 2021
znModeratorRookie WRs usually make a significant jump in development in their second season, so Van Jefferson should be an impact player for Rams in 2021:https://t.co/f0H8T3vowY
— Eric Williams (@eric_d_williams) April 6, 2021
znModeratorMatthew Stafford was accurate on 84 of 129 intermediate passes (65.1%) last season.
13th out of 31 quarterbacks. pic.twitter.com/eAcYvzfuRR
— QB Data Mine (@QBDataMine) April 6, 2021
znModeratorRussell Wilson targeting Darious Williams this season
š 0 TDs
š 3 INTs
š 26.5 passer rating pic.twitter.com/RWsduROBtG— PFF (@PFF) January 9, 2021
znModeratorGood stuff with Les obv, but the Blythe notes here are really interesting. https://t.co/TKtxECLvzL
— BTHRams (@BTH_Rams) April 7, 2021
znModeratorSo apparently znās hatred of Van Jefferson is beginning to rival his legendary hatred of Isaac Bruce.
Yep. Always figured him for a Seahawks fan. After all, ya canāt spell Zorn without zn.

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znModeratorI worry about Jeffersonās toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the gameāIāve seen signs that Jefferson has some āIsaac Bruceā to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.
I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.
Itās amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when itās such a small board.
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Yeah Zooey somehow assumed what I said was a put-down of Bruce. Even in jest that misses the point.
It was possible to overlook Bruce’s lack of physicality because he excelled in so many areas and put up yards. Back when there were controversies about Bruce sliding after receptions, I defended him.
But what if Jefferson does not have the great productivity. I am not even asking him to be Bruce, cause few are at that level, but what if he’s not even reasonably productive. If Jefferson has the shy-about-contact thing (which IMO he does) AND he does not overbalance it by being highly productive, then you have a liability without much of a strength.
znModeratorLet me be clear: there's no serious comparison between voting laws in Colorado and Georgia.
Colorado is a vote-by-mail state ā we send every registered voter a ballot. We also have same day voter registration.
Oh, and you can hand out water in line.
— Rep. Jason Crow (@RepJasonCrow) April 6, 2021
znModerator"Based on his age, you can legitimately think five to seven, eight years."
Interesting stuff here in an interview with Les Snead on the Rams' long-term quarterback plan | @TheAthletic https://t.co/S8wf31m8oq
— Lindsay Jones (@bylindsayhjones) April 7, 2021
Les Snead envisions Matthew Stafford playing for the Rams into his late 30s. https://t.co/mKRdvnyAX2
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 7, 2021
znModeratorRussell Lande@RUSSLANDE
few people who do draft coverage actually watching film and even fewer understanding how/why teams rank players. Additionally, almost no one in media gets real character/intangible info to be able to lower/eliminate players to where NFL teams will have them.
znModeratorb-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie
love to use the power of the state to mandate rigidly conformist gender performance. āsorry timmy, i know you wanted to take a home ec class but this is designated āgender nonconformingā behavior. weāll have to notify your parents.ā
znModeratorSam Monson@PFF_Sam
Bulger was a good NFL QBI loved that guy before he got broken behind his OL.
He legitimately played well enough that the Rams were forced to move on from Kurt Warner, an MVP, SB Champion & one of the best career stories in NFL history.
znModeratorCan Marc Bulger, I mean Mac Jones, break the current trend of 'toolsy' QBs succeeding and succeed if he's drafted high?https://t.co/wqDeSQfTyV
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) April 7, 2021
znModeratorDaniel Jeremiah projects Rams’ first three picks, led by Jabril Cox
* https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-nfl-draft-three-picks-daniel-jeremiah-projection/
Although itās not ideal that the Rams have to wait until the second round (again) to make their first pick in the 2021 NFL draft, their trade for Jalen Ramsey looks like an absolute win after he put together an All-Pro season in 2020. And despite their first pick coming at No. 57 overall, they will have plenty of options as they try to plug holes at linebacker, cornerback, center and defensive end.
Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network appeared on Path to the Draft this week (vid here: https://www.nfl.com/videos/daniel-jeremiah-projects-rams-first-three-selections-in-2021-nfl-draft ) and projected the Ramsā first three picks ā beginning with LSU linebacker Jabril Cox with the 57th overall selection.
It wasnāt a true mock draft, but rather Jeremiah slotting one prospect at each of the Ramsā draft positions. So letās get into the picks.
57. LSU LB Jabril Cox
Cox would be one of the ideal prospects for the Rams in Round 2, though there are two things working against this connection. Cox could go earlier than No. 57, and the Rams have shown almost no interest in any linebackers with pre-draft meetings.
But with Coxās range, coverage skills and athleticism, he would be a major upgrade to arguably the worst linebacker unit in the NFL.
āOne of the few bright spots on the LSU defense last year,ā Jeremiah said. āVery athletic, heās long, heās somebody that the Rams could use in different ways. You can play him over the No. 2 receiver out there and let him cover underneath. You can blitz him. Heād give them a nice versatile piece there to play with.ā
88. East Carolina OT D’Ante Smith
In Round 3, Jeremiah has the Rams taking an offensive lineman to potentially take over for Andrew Whitworth whenever he retires. Smith is a versatile prospect who can play tackle or guard, giving the Rams good flexibility up front.
He could play guard and push Austin Corbett to center, or he could sit for a year and compete for the starting left tackle spot in 2022 if Whitworth calls it a career after this season.
āIām not so sure Whitworthās not going to play until heās 60. ⦠Eventually, youāre going to have to pass the torch and I think DāAnte Smith is somebody who can play outside, can play inside. Tremendous length. A good football player,ā Jeremiah said.
103. Texas DL Ta’Quon Graham
After trading Michael Brockers to the Lions and losing Morgan Fox in free agency, the Rams have a hole at defensive end. It could be filled by AāShawn Robinson, but regardless, they need depth along the defensive line.
Graham is another versatile player who can play defensive end or tackle, and Jeremiah sees him as a player who can rush the passer as a complementary piece to Aaron Donald.
āTalk about DāAnte Smith having inside-outside flexibility, TaāQuon Graham has it on the other side of the ball,ā he said. āYou can line him up at end, he can kick inside and give you some interior rush to complement the great Aaron Donald. Now remember, Brockers has moved on. Heās now a Detroit Lion, so adding more depth along that defensive front is going to be a priority in this draft and lots of upside. A lot to work with with TaāQuon Graham.ā
April 6, 2021 at 4:11 pm in reply to: internal atrocities: Malcolm X , Fred Hampton, MLK, Tulsa #128893
znModeratorPlease donāt act like everyone loved my father then or authentically honors him today.
He was assassinated.
A 1967 poll reflected that he was one of the most hated men in America.
Most hated.
Many who evoke him today to deter justice would have likely hated him then. pic.twitter.com/yvPgW5vYlD
— Be A King (@BerniceKing) April 4, 2021
znModeratorIt’s funny how well this draft lines up with Rams needs. I would list Rams needs this draft this way (alphabetical order): CB, LOT, OC, OLB, WR (ie. a speed guy to develop behind Jackson). Here, according to Lance Zierlein, are the top positions in this draft:
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2021 NFL Draft: Ranking each position group in this year’s class
Lance Zierlein
Mock drafts are great for projecting potential picks, and prospect rankings help illuminate which individual players are worthy of attention — but what about sizing up which position groups are loaded with talent and which groups are lacking?
That’s what my ranking of the position groups in the 2021 NFL Draft is for.
Before we get to the rankings, though, let’s consider the criteria. In assessing each position group, I identified star-caliber players, future starting talent and overall depth relative to that particular position. In general, I focused my assessments on players who should be available between Round 1 and Round 5.
1) Wide receiver
For the second year in a row, the receiver position appears to be the deepest in the draft. For what it’s worth, I actually have the top three receivers in 2021 ranked above the top three receivers from last year, both as a group and individually. Ja’Marr Chase, DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle all have game-breaking elements to their play, while targets like Elijah Moore and Kadarius Toney are going to be nightmares to cover from the slot. It’s also worth noting the amount of size/speed prospects with good upside that will be available on Day 3 of the draft.2) Offensive tackle
Last year featured some outstanding first-round talent, and while this year presents a similar offering, there are definitely more holes to poke in this year’s potential first-rounders than there were in last year’s group. Rashawn Slater feels like a safe player but may get kicked inside eventually. Penei Sewell boasts lots of upside but needs to prove he has improved his play strength and consistency after opting out of the 2020 season. While the top end falls below last year’s group, this class is actually much deeper in Rounds 2 through 4, and it should produce a fair number of future starters.3) Interior offensive line
After landing in last place on last year’s list, this position is very quietly developing into one of the deepest in the draft. Alijah Vera-Tucker will be considered the headliner if he’s drafted as a guard instead of a tackle, but setting him aside, players like Landon Dickerson, Quinn Meinerz, Aaron Banks, Creed Humphry and Trey Smith should all become starters and may go as early as the second round. Even beyond the aforementioned talent, your team should find players with a chance to become eventual starters into Day 3 of this year’s draft.4) Edge defender
It is not a stretch to say that this year’s top edge prospects have a high projectable ceiling but carry a slightly lower floor than other position groups in this draft. I happen to like the upside potential, considering the incredible physical and athletic traits of Jayson Oweh, Kwity Paye, Azeez Ojulari, Jaelan Phillips and Gregory Rousseau, though there is a lack of production and polish for some in that group that is clearly concerning. Payton Turner and Dayo Odeyingbo could be two of the most talked-about players in this class when it’s all said and done. I like the depth here.5) Cornerback
Patrick Surtain is a player I would run the card up for, and Jaycee Horn isn’t that far behind. While the health of Caleb Farley will determine his slotting, there are still players like Greg Newsome and Eric Stokes who could become first-rounders and early starters. Day 2 offers a much more exciting group of cornerbacks to choose from than last year’s crop did, boasting length, speed and ball production. The well could dry up somewhat beyond the fourth round, but this is a better overall class than 2020.6) Linebacker
This class feels similar to what we saw in 2020, but with more game-ready options at the top. Micah Parsons and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah have a chance to become dominant players, and Zaven Collins is a versatile, consistent performer with first-round talent. Teams could feast on linebackers like Jamin Davis, Nick Bolton, Jabril Cox and Baron Browning on Day 2, with all of them becoming early contributors or starters. Beyond that, the crop ranges from good backups to potential starter types.
7) Quarterback
I would be willing to put the top three quarterbacks from 2020 up against the top three quarterbacks from 2021. However, this draft has five potential first-round starters, and a couple of quarterbacks in Davis Mills and Kellen Mond who are generating some interest along the same lines as Kyle Trask. Beyond those names, there isn’t much, but it’s an OK class relative to star power and depth. All that said, I’m not nearly as high on quarterbacks not named Trevor Lawrence in this draft as others appear to be, which is why I have this position a little lower than some others might.8) Safety
For the second year in a row, we could see a draft with no safeties taken in the first round. That’s not to disparage 2020 second-rounders Antoine Winfield Jr. and Jeremy Chinn, who had big impacts on their defenses. Trevon Moehrig, Jamar Johnson, Jevon Holland and Elijah Molden all have ball-hawking tendencies and can play over the slot. Richie Grant is a hot name in many in NFL circles, and Rounds 3 through 5 should offer a greater depth of low-end starters to good backups this year.9) Running back
Travis Etienne is the best of this year’s group, in my opinion, but Najee Harris and Javonte Williams aren’t far behind and should become early starters in the league. Beyond those three, it becomes much tougher to find for-sure future starters. Trey Sermon came out of nowhere at the end of the year, and coaches really like Michael Carter from Duke, but this is a very average group in general.10) Tight end
If the overall draft class is more like a wading pool, Kyle Pitts is clearly his own body of water. Pitts is to the tight end position what Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback spot — and the difference is even more pronounced here. Pat Freiermuth is solid, but I don’t see him as special. Tommy Tremble has exciting upside and is a feisty blocker but needs to prove he can catch the ball. I’m lower on Hunter Long and Brevin Jordan than others are — beyond that, it becomes pretty sparse.
11) Interior defensive line
The 1998 NFL Draft was the last that didn’t feature at least two defensive tackles selected in the first round — but it’s likely to happen again this year, with only Christian Barmore going. Levi Onwuzurike and Milton Williams are both very intriguing prospects who are likely to go in the second round, but this draft is light on impact interior defenders and very average from a depth standpoint.
znModerator.@LanceZierlein ranks each position group in the 2021 NFL Draft.https://t.co/TWKWN52Hwo pic.twitter.com/RjCgUtwT1X
— NFL Draft (@NFLDraft) April 6, 2021
znModeratorThese fish stole an antifreeze gene from another fish and became natural GMOs šš§¬(another example, out of many, of gene transfer in nature) https://t.co/VWedviqRVp #GMO #nature pic.twitter.com/Gv0IzBDrsd
— Daniel Norero (@DanielNorero) April 6, 2021
znModeratorfrom NFL pro day takeaways for the 2021 NFL draft: A coveted QB class, opt-out riddles, which prospects are rising
No scouting combine. No in-person visits from prospects. No business as usual for those involved in the 2021 NFL draft.
This is the second consecutive draft impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic, and teams have had little face-to-face time, scarce medical information, fewer games to review and just as many questions to answer as usual. In the months leading up to the draft, which begins April 29, there have been pro days and … a whole lot of hoping for the best with virtual meetings with prospects.
With the bulk of those on-campus workouts now wrapped up, we scoured the results and found takeaways from the athletic testing numbers, quarterback throwing sessions, surprises and moments that wowed social media. Here’s everything you need to know from the 2021 pro days:
How less medical information has changed the process
The biggest loss for every team this year is what they covet most from the combine: the results of prospects’ medical exams. In most years, 330-plus players would receive one of the most extensive medical exams of their lives at the combine as medical staffs from each team have access to their medical records and can examine each in person.
The prospects who are flagged are sent for more tests before they leave the combine. And those with the biggest injury questions are brought back to Indianapolis in the weeks before the draft for another exam.
As a result, teams could have far less information on roughly 55% of the prospects who would have been invited to the combine in previous years. Some of the middle- to late-round players with injury questions who don’t make that top 150 could be impacted.
Even a high-profile prospect such as Virginia Tech cornerback Caleb Farley, who recently had surgery on his back — an outpatient microdiscectomy, according to several teams — could see his draft status differ from projections if teams don’t find a comfort level with his recovery.
Vanderbilt’s Dayo Odeyingbo, an intriguing, versatile pass-rusher who suffered a torn Achilles in January, could be impacted as well, with the worst-case scenario a fall into Day 3 for an injury he would have had examined multiple times in previous years.
Another example is Duke cornerback Mark Gilbert, whose last full season on the field was 2017, when he led the ACC in passes defensed. He missed most of 2018 and all of 2019 due to hip surgery and then played in just two games last season (114 snaps in all) before he had right foot surgery. There are more wild cards than usual this year.
Why the QB class is so coveted this year
The quarterback math has always been difficult to wrestle with through the years.
Most personnel executives will only, begrudgingly, concede during a season there might five or six “great” quarterbacks in the league at that particular moment. And then those same personnel executives act like there are that many future great quarterbacks in every draft.
That’s in a normal year. The frenzy is in overdrive this year, as quarterbacks could be selected with each of the first four picks for the first time in history. One general manager contacted in recent weeks had predicted “the quarterback pro days will be more out there than usual.” Meaning any and all reactions to one throw here, one throw there, against air, may appear to have more meaning after several trips through the social media cycle than usual. It’s all aligned for history to be made.
Six quarterbacks were selected in the first round of the 1983 draft, with the first (John Elway), the third (Jim Kelly) and the last (Dan Marino) picks fitted for gold jackets when their careers were over. The last time quarterbacks went 1-2-3 in the draft? It was 1999, when Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb and Akili Smith were picked.
In 2018, four quarterbacks — Baker Mayfield (No. 1), Sam Darnold (No. 3), Josh Allen (No. 7) and Josh Rosen (No. 10) — were selected among the top 10 for the first time in seven decades. And last year, three went in the top 10: Joe Burrow (No. 1), Tua Tagovailoa (No. 4) and Justin Herbert (No. 5).
One of the most glaring indicators that the struggle continues to be real at the top of the board is that quarterbacks went 1-2 in both 2015 and 2016 (Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota in ’15, Jared Goff and Carson Wentz in ’16) and none of the four is still with his original team.
With so much uncertainty this year, there’s a feeling in the league that the teams at the top of the board believe the time, environment and the prospects available create the perfect storm to roll the dice on a quarterback. So much so that if you averaged many of the actual grades on the top quarterbacks in this draft, they might fall something like this:
Quarterbacks have always been selected well above their actual grades because, well, they’re quarterbacks. There is also the residual impact of the Bills trading up to No. 7 to select Allen in 2018, the year after the Chiefs had moved to No. 10 to select Patrick Mahomes. Those two teams made big trades and got their guys, and every other team has been watching closely.
I reached out to roughly two dozen scouts and personnel executives in recent weeks for an unscientific poll to try to get a snapshot of how Round 1 will really go. These are the results, with quarterbacks listed in no specific order within each tier (there were a handful of those surveyed who said they would flip Lance and Jones, but agreed with the rest):
So with only a few weeks to go until the draft begins, expect quarterbacks to remain the biggest talking point.
Opt-out riddles: Another wrinkle in a strange year
The prospects who opted out of the 2020 season due to the COVID-19 pandemic have teams relying on methods they’ve used in the past for prospects who missed the season before they entered the draft. Rob Gronkowski, who did not play his final season at Arizona due to a back injury, was a tidy 270-pound Super Bowl reminder that body of work is important in this process. He was the No. 42 overall pick in 2010.
Evaluators have tried to make the best of what they saw at the Senior Bowl in January and the pro days of some of the opt-out players. Stanford’s Paulson Adebo, for example, is still a tough call for some as the two-time All-Pac 12 pick had an injury end his 2019 season nine starts in and he opted out in 2020.
Overall, there will be some fluctuations between how the opt-out season impacts a variety of prospects, with each team having its own criteria for how those players are graded.
Prospects who wowed at pro days
Pro days are just one piece of the puzzle, and when scouts criticize the media for their evaluations of prospects, they will often say too much emphasis was placed on a pro day or combine workout and that one play made in a noncompetitive situation should not get as much love as it does.
Here are a few of the non-quarterbacks who made the most of the showcase in recent weeks:
Many people in the league came away from Northwestern’s pro day raving about how offensive tackle Rashawn Slater looked after missing a season. They got the confirmation they needed to make him a top-15 pick.
Wisconsin-Whitewater lineman Quinn Meinerz didn’t get to play a game in 2020 because his team’s season was canceled. But he made the most of his Senior Bowl week, especially in the one-on-ones, and he followed that up with a top-shelf pro day on March 9, including a reliably timed sub-4.9 40-yard dash at 320 pounds and top times in shuttle drills.
The game video showed Oklahoma center Creed Humphrey didn’t surrender a sack in 2020, and his pro day was stellar for his position, including shuttle drill times similar to those for a skill position player.
Penn State edge rusher Jayson Oweh had a pro day one scout called “high-end ridiculous” as the 6-foot-5, 257-pounder had double-take numbers such as a 39½-inch vertical and a 40 time in the 4.3s. He is one of the biggest pro day/game tape question marks of this class because he finished last season without a sack.
BYU wide receiver Micah Simon, a former prep quarterback, went undrafted in 2020 after COVID-19 forced his pro day to be canceled. He caught passes from Zach Wilson at BYU’s pro day this year and dropped a 4.3 40 on those in attendance. He was signed by the Panthers last week.
znModeratorI always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.
Itās amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when itās such a small board.
Bruce was okay. I mean he was no Tyler Lockett or anything. But he was pretty okay.
April 6, 2021 at 8:40 am in reply to: interestin stuff (vids, tweets, etc. that fit this & not another category) #128881
znModeratorWOW š³ New HIV vaccine with a 97% antibody response rate in phase I human trials. This is the most effective trial HIV vaccine to date. It is based on the Moderna's COVID vaccine. COVID tech acceleration could change Rx for cancer & HIV in future. https://t.co/3Nl0UJj6xW
— Dr. Ayoade Alakija (@yodifiji) April 4, 2021
znModeratorIām sure someone has already made this point. But the landmark 2003 Supreme Court case McConnell v. FEC had that name because Mitch McConnell himself filed a lawsuit against federal laws that limited corporationsā ability to spend money influencing elections. https://t.co/YCMozabjmx
— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) April 6, 2021
April 5, 2021 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Blythe signing w/ Vikings? (Chiefs actually). So who’s the center? #128870
znModeratorYes, the Rams should draft a center, but do they need to use their 1st pick? https://t.co/F8fT4e8VkU
— The Athletic L.A. (@TheAthleticLA) April 5, 2021
znModeratorTop-5 drafted NFL QBs, 2015-18:
No. 1 Jameis Winston, not re-signed
No. 2 Marcus Mariota, not re-signed
No. 1 Jared Goff, traded
No. 2 Carson Wentz, traded
No. 2 Mitchell Trubisky, not re-signed
No. 1 Baker Mayfield, still with Browns
No. 3 Sam Darnold, traded— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) April 5, 2021
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The Jets/Panthers trade basically ensures that for the third time in draft history, QBs will go 1-2-3. The other two …
1971: Jim Plunkett/Archie Manning/Dan Pastorini.
1999: Tim Couch/Donovan McNabb/Akili Smith.In no draft (yet) have QBs gone 1-2-3-4.
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 5, 2021
znModerator2021 QB picture gets a little clearer with Sam Darnold traded to Panthers https://t.co/GrrY6AIT2L
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) April 5, 2021
znModeratorThe Rams and 49ers have the highest projected NFC West win totals for 2021, with 10.5 each. https://t.co/3IU5NIfgPd
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 5, 2021
znModeratorRoss Tucker@RossTuckerNFL
Yes!It’s “QB Is A Leader Because He Gathered Guys In A Warm Location To Throw The Football Together” Season. šŖ
znModerator4th and 15? No problem. Kurt Warner finds the Wizard of Az (Hakim) for 6!
You just had to be there. Greatest Show On Turf pic.twitter.com/BkmFSZBvWP
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) April 5, 2021
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