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znModeratorNFL: don’t get too excited near your opponent after you make a play it’s taunting
Bill Belichick: pic.twitter.com/RFK6JhWSkT
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) August 11, 2021
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Darious Williams missed practice yesterday with “a little bit of an ankle,” while Van Jefferson was held out due to COVID issues that McVay believes was a false positive
znModeratorHere's a close look at the goofy narrative that Kirk Cousins got criticized too much and Lamar Jackson didn't get criticized enough for not getting vaccinated. https://t.co/IPq6WWcmQ2
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) August 11, 2021
August 11, 2021 at 8:40 am in reply to: Rams news: Woolford won’t play in p.s., Allen now starter at OC #131461
znModeratorMaybe they don’t have a star at every position, but they have a deep rooster. imo</span>
It’s a very interesting team, no question. Right now the biggest holes appear to be at LB, though maybe someone steps up. They might have a very very good DL. IMO the OL will be fine…the problems at OL won’t surface until 2022.
…August 11, 2021 at 7:15 am in reply to: Rams news: Woolford won’t play in p.s., Allen now starter at OC #131456
znModeratorMatthew Stafford, Devlin Hodges and Bryce Perkins will have to carry the team through the preseason games with Wolford out.
Except the last we heard, Stafford will not play at all in the p.s. We will get to see a lot of Perkins. Some Rams fans are fairly high on Perkins. We’ll see.
August 11, 2021 at 7:12 am in reply to: Rams news: Woolford won’t play in p.s., Allen now starter at OC #131455
znModeratorfrom Brian Allen has reassumed the role of starting center in Rams training camp
It seemed the Los Angeles Rams offensive staff’s plan all offseason was to roll with Austin Corbett at the starting center position and Bobby Evans as his replacement at right guard. That was the belief up until Monday, when Brian Allen had clearly assumed the role of starting center, with Corbett back at right guard, as he had been all of 2020.
The Rams released their unofficial depth chart on Tuesday, with it listing Corbett at starting center and Allen on the second team, but I wouldn’t put any stock into that. Head Coach Sean McVay appeared on Rams camp live today with LA Rams broadcaster J.B. Long and was asked “Do you have more answers or questions regarding who is going to snap that first football to Matthew Stafford against the Chicago Bears?”
Here was McVay’s response:
I think we are starting to get some clarity on that, Brian Allen is really starting to assert himself and Austin Corbett has been outstanding at the right guard position. Bobby Evans is another guy we expect that if need be, he can play at a high level; but Brian has really done a nice job and were going to continue to evaluate it but if we were to play right now he’s (Allen) has done a good job and would be our center.
In his presser following Tuesday’s practice, McVay noted that if you are looking for one of those “stand out” players of training camp this year, Brian Allen would be that guy, according to Turf Show Times’ Kenneth Arthur.
Allen last appeared in the 2019 season where he started nine games for the Rams but since then he has been struggling with injuries. It was a struggle for him in that 2019 season but McVay has reiterated on multiple occasions that he has done a nice job in camp.
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Jacob Harris has me believing the Rams TE room has a chance to improve, not regress, in 2021. And even as I type that, I’m incredulous. Mundt’s performance also factors into that statement.Rookie LB Ernest Jones continues to show up more and more often. A red zone INT during 7-on-7 work.
Whatever cautious expectations I may have had for Desean Jackson and his potential role, he’s easily surpassed them in this Rams camp.
(Well aware that external skepticism doesn’t have anything to do with August contributions.)
File this one away and we can circle back to check it in 2022…
I’ll be surprised if Matthew Stafford doesn’t enjoy career-best levels of separation and YAC from his Rams targets this season.
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Little blurb from Sean McVay: It’ll almost be like playing ‘Where’s Waldo’ for the opposing offense, in terms of finding out where Jalen (Ramsey) will be.
znModeratorCompetition is the name of the game 😤 @JacobHarris87 pic.twitter.com/oELgzb105e
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 10, 2021
znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Sean McVay just now on Rams camp live said if they were to play the bears right now, Brian Allen would be the starting center.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Bryce Perkins threw one up to the corner of the end zone during goal line period.
“Surely that is too high,” I thought. Then I saw Jacob Harris jump up…up…up…TD. Whoa.
znModeratorbubbaramfan
11 on 11 had a new look on OL. Brian Allen was at C and Austin Corbett RG, but not always. Evans got snaps in at RG and Corbett got snaps in at C. Didn’t see anybody else play LG, LT and RT other than Edwards, Whitworth and Havenstien.
2nd team OL had some changes also. Anchrum was the only one to play RT, Shelton and Evans played RG, Kolone got a lot of snaps at C along with Allen. Brewer and Noteboom always at LG and LT. Didn’t see Aleric Jackson out there at all today.
I’m guessing thery’re still trying to get a feel for thier backup OL. Evans seems to be demoted. Shelton didn’t help his cause with bad snaps at C. Kolone didn;t mess any up helping his cause.
My take: Allen has bulked up and gotten stronger. He looks 10-15lbs heavier and much thicker than 2 yeas ago when I last attended a TC. He gets off his snap very well and has held his own against SJD, Gaines and A’Shawn. He’s opening holes in the run. Corbett is a better G than Evans and it looks like at this point Allen is as least as good as Corbett at C. This is NOT the Allen we saw 2 years ago.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
The Rams switched most first team C reps to Allen with two days left in camp, after initially moving Corbett from RG to all C work through the spring/summer. He’s trending back toward RG now. Says a lot at once about
– Allen in pads
– Best option at RG
– Yes, perhaps the run game
znModeratorWolford is back. He is not in pads but will likely get an on-field workout today considering he has his cleats: pic.twitter.com/YnalbgOEzV
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) August 10, 2021
znModeratorThe Greatest Show on Turf will soon be complete in Hall Of Fame Gold. One man remains. 2022 has to be the year for Torry Holt @AllHands81 the lone WR of the “2000s All-Decade Team” yet to be inducted. His time is now! @ProFootballHOF, the campaign marches on #Holt22HOF pic.twitter.com/Oi0HsarAKr
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) August 10, 2021
znModeratorAlec Ogletree was in Chicago visiting his friend Robert Quinn and came to Halas Hall to watch Jasmine Camacho-Quinn win her gold medal. He was able to chat with some coaches there and the #Bears decided to sign him. Five practices later, he has six interceptions.
— Adam Hoge (@AdamHoge) August 10, 2021
znModeratorRams have released their first unofficial depth chart:
▪️Corbett at C
▪️ Reeder/Young starting ILBs
▪️Hollins starting at EDGE
▪️Woods, Kupp, DJax top 3 WRs
▪️Hopkins>Harris at TE
▪️Kupp listed at PR and Calais at KR— BGrisakDTR💭 (@bgrisakDTR) August 10, 2021
znModeratorI hope you and WV continue your dialogue, and if you have the time, get more specific?
There’s very little chance of that. Time. I have to be satisfied with “position statements.”
znModeratorMcVay liked the way the Rams’ defense played [against Dallas], but it was a different story with the offense. He didn’t call out any players in particular, but he did say the offense can be much better than it was on Saturday.
“Offensively, I think we can be a lot better,” he said Monday. “I think there were some good things that we flashed, but it’s a different front – the way that we’re hitting blocks and doing some different things was new. We didn’t game plan it, but I still expect more from that group. I think we’ve got enough guys that have played a lot of football that want us to be sharper in our overall execution from one snap to the next. You might have a good play, but the good offenses, they consistently stack good plays after one another. And I didn’t think we did as good a job as I expect us to do.”
znModeratorDo the LA Rams have a center controversy on their hands? It seems that Brian Allen has re-entered the starting conversation https://t.co/WnuW1yCwnM
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) August 10, 2021
znModerator(I’d add another link for that, but it likely won’t make it past the spam check.)
Don’t let that hinder things. Always just post. It’s all easily fixed. I see that the link is posted…but for the future, if you’re worried about the spam monster and don’t like any delays then just message me via the “chat” message app down to the right and put the link there and I will post it.
I am here to protest and serve.
😎
znModerator— SportsGrid (@SportsGrid) August 10, 2021
znModeratorfrom Rodrique: https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2018/11/kareem-orr/
Kareem Orr
Orr had a great week of camp, no question, and it culminated with a play in the red zone against the Cowboys’ second-team offense in which Orr broke up a would-be touchdown. With rookie Robert Rochell still recovering post-wrist-surgery, Orr will probably get a lot of playing time in the preseason and the Rams will get a long look at him against non-teammates, too — especially as they evaluate their depth situation at corner.
Player- Kareem Orr
Position – Cornerback
School- Chattanooga
Height – 5’11
Weight- 195 lbNFL Draft Diamonds Scouting Report: Kareem Orr, DB, UT-Chattanooga
* https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2018/11/kareem-orr/
Diamond Report
He might not be the tallest corner in this draft but he is definitely not undersized at almost six foot. He is a strong muscular with exceptional vision & ball skills. He is tough athletic with the lateral vertical talent that matches up with many DB’s several inches bigger than Orr.
In pass coverage have seen him play both inside & out with efficiency has the tenacity to play nickel if need be with the long speed along with the confidence to play on the outside. Plays off coverage very well, breaking in front of routes cutting them off for an INT or gets his hands in the way. Quick twitch player recognizing calls and playing the ball making interceptions, batting balls down or sizing up an RB on a screen. He has no problem diving leaping or jumping to break up a play. He is a hardnose defender with a knack for being around the ball.
On run defense/ tackling, Orr is a strong tackler like a scud missile goes low takes out the legs of Relentlessly tracking down players or keeping them in front of himself squares his shoulders using his strength & quickness to bring guys to the turf. Versatile DB that is a sound effective hitter that can be a stud in run support.
Be great at a slot position or has also played plenty of safety in College. He could play outside but his ability to get out in front of a wideout is tremendous. Has the power & toughness to take down much bigger players like TEs or big backs. He has the quickness, awareness tenacity to be a special talent in the nickel for the right D scheme. For many years to come. Or be a very good strong safety as well that can stay on the field on all downs.
His Great tackling ability could make him an asset on special teams too. A DB willing to go up and make a big play. Great timing on pass plays as well, as the vision needed in the run game. Can diagnosis plays well and reads the QB’s eyes.
My final summary is that Orr is an athletic quick twitch tough DB that has the speed & versatility to entice many scouts to give him a shot in a camp this spring. I see Orr as a late round or Undrafted Free agent that could make an in=midiate impact both on special teams & adding depth to an already strong secondary. The right DB coach could make 6 Pick Reem a household name.
znModeratorVeteranRamFan
CAMP REPORT AUG 9
Seeing Allen at C and Corbet at RG was a shock. But even more shocking was all the different looks the O line had. It was almost like they had a pass blocking line when it was a pass play and then changed out everybody on the O line for a run play. Lots of players getting lots of different looks.
K. Orr is something else! What a great pick up by the Rams staff. Pass break ups, pass defended, almost intercepted one on Higbee.
Van Jefferson is light years ahead of last year! He runs great routes, gets good separation and when he is covered tight, high points the ball and comes down with the contested catches. Some of his moves are impressive. He’s breaking a lot of DB’s ankles out there.
Jake Funk is just fun to watch! He ran one in from about 8 yards out, good cuts, balance and fast. No one really touched him. I guess we could give credit to the O line for it’s blocking scheme.
D Henderson broke off a long run due to some excellent blocking that created a huge hole up the middle.I think today the D won. Had a few sacks, a couple of tipped balls and plenty of pass break ups. The O had it’s moments as previously stated, but I felt today was the first day that my Rams may actually be human and not all have super powers! We’re going to win a lot of games but we will also lose some in the process. My prediction? 13-4 at the best and 11-6 at our worst.
August 10, 2021 at 12:58 am in reply to: Stafford (stuff during camp)…the 8/2 entry is must read #131408
znModeratorALBERT BREER, from https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/09/mmqb-inside-49ers-quarterback-competition-according-to-shanahan-garoppolo-lance
The Rams are pretty ecstatic with Matthew Stafford. I was with L.A. on Friday and Saturday, and the most common conversation-opener that staffers there used on me was simple: “This guy …” And they knew I knew who they were talking about before saying Stafford’s name. During the team’s scrimmage with the Cowboys on Saturday, Stafford made a throw that brought to life what they’re enamored with. On the play, Stafford took the snap, and rolled to his left. With a couple Dallas defenders bearing down, he flipped his hips—I could swear he didn’t have his feet all the way planted—and launched a rocket to DeSean Jackson, who was racing downfield towards the right pylon. I was standing near Jackson, and could hear the ball humming. So it’s that, plus the mental acuity Stafford brings, that has Sean McVay, Kevin O’Connell and Co. believing pretty strongly that the quarterback is going to allow the coaches to swing some clubs they haven’t been able to pull from the bag in a while. And that’s not an indictment on Jared Goff, so much as it is an affirmation that Stafford’s high-end ability remains, as he heads into his 13th year as a pro, and first as a Ram.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Rams being cautious about an ankle issue for SJD, per McVay. Adds Terrell Lewis’ knee is “acting up” so they will take a closer look at that situation.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said they’re still evaluating the run game behind Darrell Henderson Jr. However:“I think both X (Xavier Jones) and (Jake) Funk have done a really nice job. If they continue on this trajectory, they’re going to be a part of our plans in the running back room.”
znModeratorI’m so far to the Doomer-Left these days, I
am having a hard time seeing how Biden is better than Trump.I don’t like Biden one bit but he is clearly better than Trump. Your only argument is that he does not have progressive/leftist policies. Yeah well we knew that going in. But even this kind of died-in-the-wool deep committed Dem centrist is better than Trump. That doesn’t mean “good enough” but Trump is a very low bar and it’s easy to clear that bar. For example, he’s not encouraging and participating in racist discourse and he’s not encouraging and participating in dangerously untruthful discourse about covid and vaccination.
It’s a long list.
You add it all up and it’s nowhere near enough. We know that.
But STILL, even given that, to me, you honestly seem to be forgetting how exactly fucking bad Trump was.
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Well, nothing you said there was convincing, zn. Trump used racist language.
Biden doesnt. Ok. Biden is still mass-murdering people of color all over the globe and building up a militarized-police force and building up the CIA,
etc, etc.Its not that I have forgotten how bad Trump was.
Biden just seems like a different ‘kind’ of racist to me.
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vI didn’t really try to convince of anything (that would take more effort and a detailed post), for the sake of conversation I just painted the difference between us. It’s many many simple things. Does Biden promote internal domestic racist policies the same as Trump? Yes or no?
Then extend that. Are American foreign wars actually based on race, or dominantion of economic resources? We also protect regimes of nations populated by people of color and headed by people of color because they are valuable allies in the global domination of resources. I don’t think we’re really analyzing race when distinctions just don’t count anymore. To me it becomes empty buzzwords.
I said before the election that Trump was even worse than people imagined and not only was I right, he was even worse than I even imagined he would be when I said that.
I agreed more with what you were saying a few weeks back when you once complained that in left twitter, if you point out the way Trump was actually worse, you get called a “liberal” and dismissed. Yeah that’s true (ie it’s true one encounters that reaction) and IMO when that happens it’s not the least bit true or useful.
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znModeratorThe bowling ball maneuver takes decades of practice to perfect pic.twitter.com/H3Bk47jcNy
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) August 9, 2021
znModeratorI’m so far to the Doomer-Left these days, I
am having a hard time seeing how Biden is better than Trump.I don’t like Biden one bit but he is clearly better than Trump. Your only argument is that he does not have progressive/leftist policies. Yeah well we knew that going in. But even this kind of died-in-the-wool deep committed Dem centrist is better than Trump. That doesn’t mean “good enough” but Trump is a very low bar and it’s easy to clear that bar. For example, he’s not encouraging and participating in racist discourse and he’s not encouraging and participating in dangerously untruthful discourse about covid and vaccination.
It’s a long list.
You add it all up and it’s nowhere near enough. We know that.
But STILL, even given that, to me, you honestly seem to be forgetting how exactly fucking bad Trump was.
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znModeratorRams good mix up to their usual split flow OZ concepts…
Instead of cutting the backside, they get +1 on the playside using the short motion (TE81) as a lead blocker pic.twitter.com/kElOcfiRNl
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) August 9, 2021
August 9, 2021 at 11:43 am in reply to: Nurses fired for not getting COVID-19 vaccine explain their rationale #131395
znModeratorTexas officials say just 6 ICU beds are available for Austin and the ten counties around it and the 2.4 million people who live there https://t.co/8xEFlnooGF
— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) August 9, 2021
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