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  • in reply to: pick 164: RB Kyren Williams #138767
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    in reply to: Rams tweets… 5/1 – 5/8 #138766
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    in reply to: ‘buyers remorse’ on Matthew Stafford #138760
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    There’s no such thing as showing it too often.

     

     

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    That last list from Rodrigue has 17.

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    – P Cameron Dicker (Texas) Immediate notes: Rams did pursue CFA QBs and will add a fourth arm prior to camp. Dicker is listed as a punter, which is intriguing (if not expected). 17 prospects whose positions skew defense – also planned heading into UDFA.

    Pettigrew – 9.38 RAS and a hell of a blocker per @FBallGameplan

    OLBs added here are super intriguing and a group to keep an eye on. Baylor secondary a good add to type of scheme the Rams play Also clear Rams have been leaning into their process on smaller-school guys.

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    in reply to: our responses to the 2022 draft #138747
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    How do you replace a Hall of Famer like Vonn Miller? Get better in the secondary and LB units, i guess. I dunno.

    As has been said before, a defense with Von Miller is different from a defense with Wagner.

    A defense with Wagner and a stocked secondary means less of what we didn’t like last year–those endless long drives by opposing offenses milking the short pass up the middle. (This is admittedly an impression and not the result of dedicated film study.)

    If that is your defensive strength instead of weakness, you can also script in blitzes, stunts, and tailored 3rd down packages designed to isolate specific guys.

    Last year the Rams were just 15th in Yards Per Passing Attempt Allowed, 13th in First Downs Allowed Per Game, 14th in Completion Percentage Allowed, and 20th in Opponent Time of Possession Percentage. Just a little improvement in those areas and its a good defense but in a different way. I want to see more punts from the other team (Rams were 15th in opposing teams punting.)

    Anyway I wonder if Morris’s thing is turnovers more than sacks.

    It may not go the way I’m saying but it could.

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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
    Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but something possibly worth noting. The Lions selected two players that I had deemed fits for the Rams based on past selection. Find that interesting because I think it points to the influence that Holmes had in the Rams draft process.
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    Hey, Troy. Robert Woods went for a 6th. But – you know – go play your ass off.

    And that pissed me off. Super Bowl victory, etc. etc. Amazingly kewl, and so on. But the Rams really are bad when it comes to draft compensation for their players. They tend to offer far too much for others, and accept far too little for the guys they trade. That really needs to stop. Cuz their “window” for victory will disappear quickly if it doesn’t, and I want them to have a shot at it all for many years to come. That’s not likely if they continue to throw away their picks.

    I just took the Woods trade as the Rams letting RW pick the team he went to (out of possible trade partners). The Titans were his pick, they only offered a 6th, Rams said okay out of respect to Woods.

    They are drafting so well so far in the lower rounds that they can constantly surround their cap-heavy, paid-for stars with a solid cast. That’s all they need to do to keep winning, as long as they have their handful of stars.

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    in reply to: pick 212 … Derion Kendrick, CB #138723
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    New Rams CB Derion Kendrick says Rams director of player affairs Jacques McClendon and security head Steve Miller came out to Athens, GA to have breakfast with him and they sat for hours and talked. He said they really wanted to get to know him as a person, felt afterward that
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    they would be the ones who drafted him. That wasn’t the first time team had done background work on him/met him but Kendrick’s clue was that this last visit was right before the draft itself.

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    LB           Jake Hummel  Iowa State

    JAKE HUMMEL LB IOWA STATE | NFL DRAFT PROFILE & SCOUTING REPORT

    * https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jake-Hummel-LB-IowaState

    40 TIME: 4.51 SECONDS
    HEIGHT: 6-1 WEIGHT: 235
    HANDS: 9 3/4 ARMS: 32 1/8
    DATE OF BIRTH: 01/04/1999 AGE: 23.3

    Strengths

    An aggressive run defender, filling run lanes hard, and won’t shy from contact. Plays with violence to fight off blocks, flashing a physical nature. An intense, powerful hitter who willingly gives up his body.
    Intelligent player who can play “MIKE” linebacker despite his lack of size because of his instincts and ability to find the ball in traffic.
    A bit stiff but makes the clean open-field tackle. Good effort in pursuit.
    Good key and diagnosis skills. Quickly locates the ball and shows no wasted motion in getting there. At least adequate lateral agility to avoid blockers and shows good vision and anticipation.

    Weaknesses
    Doesn’t have enough speed, power or bulk to fit any LB position perfectly in the NFL.
    Relies on effort and intensity rather than elite agility, power or closing speed.
    Can be too hesitant when he doesn’t find the ball immediately.
    Not a sudden or quick-twitch athlete. Will never be the strongest player on the field and can struggle to shed from different angles.
    Lacks functional strength to shed and take on blocks at the point of attack.

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    in reply to: pick 261 … AJ Arcuri, OL #138710
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    in reply to: pick 261 … AJ Arcuri, OL #138706
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    AJ Arcuri: OT who played both LT and RT at Michigan State. 6’7 308 lbs. 34 in. arms and 11 in. hands. Very experienced as a 3 year starter. He’s very solid in pass pro and can really move people in the run game. Very technically sound

    Uses his length well to keep defenders at bay. Large hands snatch defenders and don’t let go. As a run blocker he plays with good balance and leverage and drives people back. He can get to second level blocks and occasionally pull as well

    He also does a good job getting his head across defenders and walking them off to create running lanes. In pass pro he has a wide base and good feet. Keeps his hands and feet synced up to keep balance and positioning. Times his punches well

    He generally has good hand placement but there are occasional lapses. He already has an NFL anchor and even when initially beat he can reset his anchor. When he is threatened by speed on the edge he can become susceptible to inside counters.

    He handled Michigan’s Aidan Hutchinson and David Ojabo. Only allowed one pressure. Opened holes for backs. They tried beating him around the arc but he was able to run them around the arc and keep them from flattening. His length is an asset and he’s explosive out of his stance

    He didn’t grade well in speed drills 40, 20 split, 10 split) but who f***ing cares about that! He doesn’t have elite agility but he has enough. I think he was a STEAL. I could see him providing depth and becoming an eventual starter. As a run blocker I’d like to see him finish

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    Williams earned the starting role the past two seasons in offensive coordinator Tommy Rees’ zone-based scheme. He was a slot receiver before he was a running back in high school and proved himself as an all-purpose weapon for the Irish

    And he was a Rams fan in St.Louis growing up.

    So he runs in a zone scheme and was a receiver before becoming a back. I think he must have been a McVay favorite before the draft.

    He might as well have been born with a Rams logo birthmark on his forehead.

    in reply to: media responses to the Rams 2022 draft #138704
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    Where did each Rams draft pick rank on pre-draft big boards?

    https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-draft-rankings-prospects-picks-big-board/

    One of the first things to do after the Los Angeles Rams make a pick in the draft is check where that player ranked on pre-draft big boards. Did they get a steal compared to where the experts had a certain player ranked? Or did the Rams reach for a player who wasn’t positively viewed by analysts leading up to the draft?

    In doing that with the Rams’ 2022 draft class, it doesn’t appear that they got a ton of value with many of their picks, particularly the late-round guys. We looked at four pre-draft big boards to compare how each player ranked before the draft to where the Rams drafted them.

    Draft Wire: Top 300
    Pro Football Focus: Top 250
    CBS Sports: Top 300
    The Athletic Consensus Board: Top 300

    Wisconsin G Logan Bruss (Round 3, Pick 104)
    Draft Wire: 143

    Pro Football Focus: 111

    The Athletic: 189

    CBS Sports: 69

    Bruss was drafted about where he should have been, especially with the Rams knowing he probably would not have been available had they waited until the fourth round at no. 142. CBS Sports was the highest on Bruss and he was selected at the site’s exact ranking position, though PFF wasn’t far behind.

    South Carolina State CB Decobie Durant (Round 4, Pick 142)
    Draft Wire: Unranked

    Pro Football Focus: 246

    The Athletic: 238

    CBS Sports: 142

    Durant was a sleeper in this class after attending South Carolina State, and the pre-draft rankings reflect that. Once again, CBS Sports was the highest on him and he, too, was selected at the same spot on the pre-draft rankings.

    Notre Dame RB Kyren Williams (Round 5, Pick 164)
    Draft Wire: 135

    Pro Football Focus: 144

    The Athletic: 129

    CBS Sports: 205

    Williams was seen as one of the better running backs in this class, ranking in the top 150 overall by three of the four big boards we looked at. He was taken 164th overall, so it’s not as if the Rams reached for him.

    UCLA S Quentin Lake (Round 6, Pick 211)
    Draft Wire: Unranked

    Pro Football Focus: Unranked

    The Athletic: 244

    CBS Sports: Unranked

    Lake was only ranked on The Athletic’s Consensus Big Board, coming in at No. 244. His poor testing was a factor in that, causing him to slide down the board.

    Georgia CB Derion Kendrick (Round 6, Pick 212)
    Draft Wire: 218

    Pro Football Focus: 204

    The Athletic: 153

    CBS Sports: 184

    Kendrick looks like the best value of anyone from the Rams’ class, being ranked higher than his draft position on three of the four big boards.

    Montana State OLB Daniel Hardy (Round 7, Pick 235)
    Draft Wire: Unranked

    Pro Football Focus: Unranked

    The Athletic: Unranked

    CBS Sports: Unranked

    Kansas State S Russ Yeast (Round 7, Pick 253)
    Draft Wire: Unranked

    Pro Football Focus: Unranked

    The Athletic: Unranked

    CBS Sports: Unranked

    Michigan State OT AJ Archie (Round 7, Pick 261)
    Draft Wire: Unranked

    Pro Football Focus: Unranked

    The Athletic: Unranked

    CBS Sports: Unranked

    in reply to: our responses to the 2022 draft #138703
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    BT, do me a favor and move that article to this thread (or post it both places): media responses to the Rams 2022 draft Thanks.

    In case you couldn’t tell, the comments were all mine. No excerpt from the article. I just linked to it and the software did its thing with the pic, etc. It was intended as my response to the draft, with the article as kinda support. Should that still be in the media response thread?

     

    Okay thanks. The simple way to fix links that do that is to add text before them–I put an asterisk. I just thought the article should also be in the other thread, but that’s fine, I will put it there. I also fixed your link.

    in reply to: our responses to the 2022 draft #138700
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    BT, do me a favor and move that article to this thread (or post it both places):

    media responses to the Rams 2022 draft

    Thanks.

    in reply to: our responses to the 2022 draft #138699
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    I was not happy drafting two safeties.

    I was. They are going to lose a couple of their safeties after this year. That was stocking up for the future.

    in reply to: our responses to the 2022 draft #138696
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    My take.

    The Rams have seriously done well in the lower rounds since 2017. They average about 4 hits per draft (not yet counting the too recent 2021 draft);  and by hits I mean more than “makes the roster for a couple of years.” A hit is someone who either ends up as a starter, or when asked to step up as an injury replacement, comes through at a high level (eg. Scott).

    They have done things like find a seriously good NT in round 6 one year (Sebastian-Day) and then when he was injured, his 4th round replacement came through (Gaines). You know before that I don’t think they ever drafted a good NT when they played 3/4 defenses.

    Overall, this may be the best drafting in Rams draft history. Honestly.

    Given all that I am reluctant to say anything about picks that are obscure to me. I mean–who here predicted that both Fuller and Scott would come through the way they did? They were afterthoughts when Rams fans discussed those drafts. So I can’t rule them out from having 4 solid hits in this draft, too. (Plus it is obvious they also stocked themselves with very good position coaches, so player development is real with them.)

    Pick by pick.

    Bruss. The highest the Rams have deliberately picked a guard since Incognito in 2005 (others like Saffold and Evans were initially taken as tackles and then later converted. Bruss is a draft, plug and play guard). Bruss makes this OL Wisconsin West. This is obviously a good pick.

    Durant. He gets a lot of buzz as a good, talented, dedicated slot type corner. Rams have an extrordinary record drafting DBs, and that’s even with the disappointments we can all name. If Durant comes through, and Long and Rochell develop, and Hill is what he was, this is going to be a deep corner group. That’s a lot of ifs but it’s just not that implausible.

    Williams. I like him. Low center of gravity, good elusiveness, and top contact balance–the trait he shares with both Henderson and Akers. He’s basically Henderson with alterations–not as fast but far more elusive. Write-ups on him say he is a very good pass protector too. He replaces Michel. Rams need 3 backs.

    Lake. Nothing but love for this pick. He came through on a defense that was a poorly coached shambles.

    Kendrick. A gamble, but not a costly one.

    Hardy. Same as Kendrick. Except–it’s easier to find DBs this low in the draft then pass rushers. Every year the Rams will try a new potential diamond in the rough at this spot: Garrett, Lewis, Okoronkwo. But if you look at the entire league for the past 20 years, out of all the players taken after round 3 at DE or OLB edge rusher, only a handful have ever made it–a lowly percentage of just around 2%. If they don’t make another high profile trade, then, they just have to keep trying.

    Yeast. Don’t know. Special teamer? Maybe he blossoms? Let’s see if he makes some bread (yuck yuck).

    Arcuri. Strictly a right tackle and one very much in the Havenstein mold. This guy might make it and develop. (You know the Rams drafting at OL from Martz through Fisher was just bloody awful. This bunch, the 2017 and after gang, have been pretty good at it.)

    What I miss: What did I want to see them do that they didn’t do? Believe it or not–a back-up qb. Unless Perkins develops, I don’t think they have one.

     

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    #RamsHouse basically watched tape on Big 10 Tackles Logan Bruss & AJ Arcuri take it to 1st overall pick DE Aiden Hutchinson & 2nd Rounder David Ojabo…. Bruss is obviously going to be starting but Arcuri might be more than just a project
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    see link above

    Five takeaways from Rams’ 2022 NFL Draft: Can Logan Bruss earn starting O-line spot?

    HOLLYWOOD HILLS, Calif. — Eight picks and a trade for a familiar player later, the Rams wrapped their 2022 NFL Draft as the sun began to set over Los Angeles. As head coach Sean McVay and general manager Les Snead began their press conference on one of the patios that encircled their massive “draft house” overlooking the Sunset Strip, coaches and scouts wrapped up calls with an incoming college free-agent class and began to file outdoors, finding comfy spots to lounge and exhale after their busiest of the three days.

    The Rams picked eight times throughout the draft’s three days, beginning with No. 104 and ending with the second-to-last selection in the seventh round, courtesy of one of their two pick trades.

    Overall, they brought in five defensive backs (including their trade with Cleveland for Troy Hill, who Snead referred to as a “bonus” pick), a running back, an offensive lineman they expect to start immediately and one with positive developmental traits and a raw edge-rusher with an astounding athletic profile:

    The picks

    • Logan Bruss, iOL, third round, No. 104, Wisconsin

    McVay and Snead expect Bruss to compete “immediately” for the starting right guard position. Bruss was in the top “pod” of players at this pick point for the Rams.

    Bruss will project into the Rams’ right guard spot, but he’ll still have to compete with Coleman Shelton and Tremayne Anchrum to seal the role.

    • Decobie Durant, CB, fourth round, No. 142, South Carolina State

    Durant has outside-inside versatility, which is an important quality in a Rams secondary that bases a lot of its concepts on unlocking Jalen Ramsey in a variety of roles. After the team sent in the pick, defensive coaches jumped out of their seats in excitement. Durant was also the second HBCU player to be drafted in this class.

    “I really didn’t know where I would be taken, what round,” said Durant. “Just sitting around and waiting. And then the Rams called and my emotions were through the roof.”

    Shrine Bowl director Eric Galko told The Athletic shortly after the pick, “one of the best nickel cornerback prospects in the draft, and his game against Clemson early in the NFL season put him on the map as NFL starter talent. Outstanding, high-character person, too.”

    The Rams also added another cornerback not five minutes after drafting Durant — and a familiar face, too. They traded a 2023 fifth-round pick for veteran Troy Hill, who departed in free agency after the 2020 season. Hill has a cap number of $3.75 million in 2022 and a base salary of just $1.5 million on what is technically the last year of the deal he signed with Cleveland. The Rams got a 2022 sixth-round pick for Hill when he departed in free agency, which they put to use later in the draft. Hill will play in the slot and on the outside.

    • Kyren Williams, RB, fourth round, No. 164 (via trade with Raiders of Nos. 175 and 238), RB, Notre Dame

    The Rams staff considered Williams to be one of the better pass-protectors in this draft class, which is of the utmost importance at the NFL level. Williams should compete to get on the field on pass-catching downs and is a high-character player with sure hands and quickness.

    Williams is a St. Louis native and grew up a Rams fan (and stayed one even after they moved back to Los Angeles). He even dressed up as legendary Rams running back Steven Jackson for Halloween one year as a kid.

    On his willingness and ferocity as a pass-protector, Williams said, “I think the biggest thing, as a running back in general in pass-pro, is having a mindset. You can’t have a mindset of being shy or timid. You have to deliver the blow first to the linebacker. That’s something I’ve always been taught, growing up. My dad always made me play linebacker on his defense. I had to go stick — go hit — some people.”

    • Quentin Lake, S, sixth round, No. 211, UCLA

    Oh, the Rams and their knack for finding late-round safeties … Lake is versatile, is still trending toward positive growth in his technical ability and is a very smart player with a high football IQ. Lake’s comparable in the NFL could actually feasibly be Jordan Fuller, their starting safety who they drafted at No. 199 in 2020, but the hometown prospect will obviously still have a long road before he’s competing for starting reps.

    • Derion Kendrick, CB, sixth round, No. 212, Georgia

    The Athletic draft analyst Dane Brugler wrote of Kendrick, “Overall, Kendrick’s suspect discipline (both on and off the field) will be an anchor on his draft grade, but he is a fluid athlete with the speed and ball skills to match up with NFL receivers. He has the ability to outplay his draft position.”

    Kendrick missed three games while at Clemson for disciplinary reasons and was later dismissed from the program; he also faced and resolved some legal issues according to his draft profile. The Rams historically invest a lot of time and resources into background work on players, and according to Snead, Kendrick was no different in this regard.

    “He is definitely a young man that we spent a lot of time with, we visited him a couple of times,” Snead said. “I know I’ve texted and talked to (Georgia head coach) Kirby Smart probably three times today, and he keeps reiterating: ‘Hey, know this, that kid loves football and he’s smart.’ And we have always said that if you love football, that ‘North star’ has got a chance to help you stay on track — if you’re not there yet, as you get there.”

    • Daniel Hardy, edge, seventh round, No. 235 (via trade with Tampa Bay), Montana State

    Hardy’s measurables are extremely impressive, as was his production in 2021 (even though it was at a smaller-school level). He had 16 1/2 sacks and 24 1/2 tackles for loss last season and even went on a few top-30 visits with teams this spring. He will probably initially compete on special teams, but has high development potential.

    His Relative Athletic Score especially stands out:

    Hardy said he made a promise to his late father before he passed that he would take care of the family. Of manifesting that promise on Saturday, he said, “the work is not done yet. It’s just getting started …

    “The one thing I have going for me is I am absolutely relentless. I am humble, I don’t have a single issue playing special teams. I am just ready to go in there and do whatever the coaches ask of me and ball out.”

    • Russ Yeast, S, seventh round, No. 253, Kansas State

    Yeast should be a rising contributor on special teams in the spring and in training camp, with a shot at making the roster because of the Rams’ need for safeties in that phase. Scouting reports say he’s a good tackler with solid ball skills, and can play in a two-high scheme, plus has previous experience at cornerback. Yeast made All-Big 12 at Kansas State.

    A.J. Arcuri, OT, seventh round, No. 261 (via trade with Tampa Bay), Michigan State

    Arcuri is 6-7 and over 310 pounds and will probably develop toward a reserve right tackle spot. He’s also very athletic and could stand to put on even more weight. By picking him here, there is some indication the Rams would have faced competition to sign him in undrafted free agency.

    Best pick

    Bruss filled a need for the Rams while also intersecting as one of the top players on their board. For that reason, and the importance of the role he’ll play if he secures the starting spot, he’s the choice here. Runner-up is Lake, as the hometown player who could follow in Fuller’s impressive footsteps.

    Biggest surprise

    No punters? This position was one the Rams spent a lot of time on, and worked out a large number of prospects pre-draft. Penn State punter Jordan Stout was among the top players on their list, but they understood he wouldn’t likely fall to them. Further, it seemed the board didn’t fall the Rams’ way when other “punter runs” happened. I would be very surprised if the team didn’t bring in at least one player to compete with veteran Riley Dixon, who signed a one-year deal in free agency (although they like Dixon a lot).

    Biggest question mark

    The battle for the second outside cornerback spot — and the rotation at the nickel and “Star” positions figures to be an intriguing one considering the versatility of the new additions and the players the Rams already had on the roster.

    Remaining needs

    The Rams could still add some tight end depth (and may look to college free agency to do so), need to bring in punter competition and need a fourth arm for camp.

    I also expect the Rams to continue to explore their options at outside linebacker/pass rusher; as we have seen in the past, they have even been aggressive into the season in adding to their roster particularly at premium positions.

    Post-draft outlook

    The Rams drafted for need and with athletic traits, character, football I.Q. and developmental potential in mind, which was an efficient and productive intersection. This draft seemed methodical in approach, as they filled several key areas (on their offensive line, in their defensive backfield and at running back). I expect their undrafted free agent class, which will likely officialize by Tuesday, to continue to address positions such as tight end, outside linebacker, punter and inside linebacker.

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    from https://theathletic.com/3285828/2022/05/01/nfl-draft-picks-favorite/?source=twitterhq

    Beat writers’ favorite 2022 NFL Draft picks: One intriguing player from all 32 teams

    Los Angeles Rams: The way the Rams evaluate safeties, from their scheme fit to their personalities, is deeply fascinating to me. It’s also a position around which an important part of their team-build revolves, because safeties will be mid- to late-round picks and have to contribute at high level on their rookie deals in order to help maintain their financial and roster balance on defense. Their history at the position includes Eric Weddle (twice!), John Johnson and Jordan Fuller, all of whom have been difference-makers physically and mentally. So when they picked UCLA prospect Quentin Lake at No. 211, a player who has been compared to Fuller (who started for the Rams as a sixth-round pick in his rookie season), I was of course hooked. Lake’s development will be fun to watch, and who knows? He could be on the “Fuller” track. — Jourdan Rodrigue 

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    There is no maybe about Bruss, both Snead and McVay said he’s a plug and play guy….

    He was the second highest rated guard on NFL.com draft board.

    With his experience playing at Wisconsin, and they play a pro style offense, he will have no problem getting up to par with the RAMs blocking scheme and their playbook.

    He is the first Guard the RAMs have drafted as a guard this high in the McVay and Snead era (Evans was initially at tackle).

    So that says a lot about about Bruss and what the RAMs coaching staff thinks about him.

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    in reply to: pick 235 … daniel hardy, olb #138689
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