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znModeratorWith the No. 128 overall pick in the 2023 @NFLDraft, the @RamsNFL select Stetson Bennett!
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znModeratorSome of those UDFAs will be on the roster.
They always are. The Snead Rams have a long record of doing well with UDFAs.
znModeratorRound 4
Pick 26, No. 128 overall (from NYG)
Round 5
Pick 26, No. 161 overall (from HOU via DAL)
Pick 32, No. 167 overall (compensatory)
Pick 36, No. 171 overall (compensatory)
Pick 42, No. 177 overall (compensatory)
Round 6
Pick 5, No. 182 overall
Pick 12, No. 189 overall (via TEN)
Round 7
Pick 6, No. 223 overall
Pick 17, No. 234 overall (via PIT)
znModeratorBT: But he does seem like he has major intangibles all over the place. Should develop into a key locker-room guy, etc, and will lead by example. You can build a good team with guys like that.
I see him, starting out anyway, as a rotation guy with AD. Unless they play him at left DE.
But then here’s a guy with a different thought:
Ramsman34…
This dude is a gap penetrator. He is not going to be stacking double teams. In fact, you will see him in known passing downs to start. Him and AD are going to be so fast and disruptive inside, on slants, stunts, loops….very excited about his skill set. He will get better anchoring against the run. But, his initial primary role will be to pair with AD as an interior pass disruptor.
znModeratorI’m not worried about height. There are examples of edge rushers/OLBs in that height range. Shaquil Barrett, who peaked from 2019-21 with 37.5 sacks in that period, is 6’2 250. Haason Reddick (16 sks 2022) is 6’1 235. Micah Parsons (13.5 sks 2022) is 6’3 245. Remember Robert Mathis? 135 career sacks at 6’2 245.
znModeratorThe interview vid in the last post…Turner is a very impressive guy.
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znModeratorWith just four rounds remaining, here are the 50 best players still available for the Rams on Day 3 https://t.co/PQoPRnCnlQ
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 29, 2023
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams NFL Draft picks 2023: Grades, fits and scouting reports
https://theathletic.com/4441665/2023/04/28/los-angeles-rams-draft-picks-predictions-fits-scouting/
The Los Angeles Rams enter the 2023 NFL Draft on April 27 with 11 picks over the three-day draft.
With their first pick, the Rams added guard Steve Avila out of TCU. After trading back twice and collecting a couple more picks, the Rams then added edge Byron Young from Tennessee with the 77th pick in the third round.
The Rams haven’t had a first-round pick since 2016 when they selected QB Jared Goff with the first overall pick. The Rams won the Super Bowl two years ago, but struggled last season — a bunch of injuries didn’t help — and missed the playoffs. Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner, Leonard Floyd, A’Shawn Robinson and Allen Robinson are gone and that no doubts leaves needs at multiple positions. Edge rusher, cornerback and tight end, where starter Tyler Higbee is in the final year of his contract, are at the top of the list.Keep coming back here throughout the draft for analysis and grades for each Rams pick.
Round 2
No. 36: Steve Avila, G, TCU
How he fits
One of the select few interior linemen I had in the top 50 this draft, Steve Avila has the play strength and positional versatility to bolster an offensive line that was porous in pass protection and struggled to create lanes in the running game. Avila’s 330 pounds gives him a great anchor, and he’s got enough explosive potential and speed to execute in Sean McVay’s outside zone scheme. The Rams have plenty to retool this draft, and this was a smart pick in the early 30s. — Diante Lee
Dane Brugler’s analysis
A wide-based and powerful blocker, Avila collects a body count with his heavy hands to make early contact in pass pro or drive block in the run game. Though he stays controlled in his initial mirror, his countering footwork and hand work will be the keys to his next-level success. Overall, Avila needs to better understand his biomechanics to access his explosive power, but he plays with a strong base to anchor and control at either guard or center. He fits both zone and gap schemes and should be an immediate starter as an NFL rookie.
Round 3
No. 77: Byron Young, edge, Tennessee
How he fits
A 250-pound edge with 4.4 speed and terrific explosion, Young — who was out of football in 2018 before coming back to play at Georgia Military before winding up at Tennessee — is all gas off the line of scrimmage and can be a serious problem for slow-footed or stiff tackles. He plays with good instinct as a pass rusher and doesn’t get lost or run himself out of much. You’re not getting much vs. the run with him, he’s a pass rush specialist — and he could be longer. But that speed is no joke. — Nick Baumgardner
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Young is an explosive, hard charger and at his best on T/E stunts because of the balance and quickness to stay on his rush path. However, he is undersized and his role will be limited at the next level because of his deficiencies in closed areas. Overall, Young can be engulfed in the run game, and his rush stalls too quickly at contact, but his energy and pass-rush flashes lead to backfield plays. Though he has limitations in the run game, he has the potential to make a living as a glorified sub-rusher in the NFL.
No. 89: Kobie Turner, DT, Wake ForestHow he fits
Bit of a defensive line tweener, but also a powerhouse at 6-2, 293 with very good agility and active hands. He isn’t very long, but he’s in the backfield a lot — 43 1/2 tackles for loss and 18 sacks during his college career. Turner started at Richmond and transferred to Wake Forest for his final year and he’s not a refined pass rusher, but he’s a big-time competitor who can knock stuff around inside right now for the Rams. — Nick Baumgardner
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Turner is a tad undersized and is guilty of freelancing out of his run fits, but he plays with bouncy feet, forceful hands and affects the game with his relentless effort. He projects as a rotational three-technique in the NFL with potential to be more.
znModeratorRams draft Steve Avila: TCU guard is ‘tough guy’ who could help overhaul run game
At pick No. 36, the Rams drafted TCU guard Steve Avila, a 6-foot-3, 332-pound behemoth of an interior lineman who can play left or right guard, center and even tackle.
After they sent in their pick, every room where coaches, scouts and draft personnel assembled burst into applause and cheers. Avila was a high-ranked prospect on their board.
Avila said that when general manager Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay called in the early evening at TCU where he was watching the draft and celebrating with 150 close friends and teammates, he couldn’t even form a conversation because of all of the tears.That’s about the only time Avila will be on the record as not being an elite communicator, which is one of the traits the Rams identified in him early in their scouting process under area scout Cedric Jones.
“He has a great personality, he can relate to a lot of different people,” Jones said. “You can put that guy in, he’s gonna come and do his job. We’re pretty confident in that.”
Added Jones, “tough guy, I mean a large human being who moves very well for that size. A guy that is in the business of moving people. Hasn’t surrendered a lot of sacks in his career.”
Avila ranked No. 40 on Dane Brugler’s list of the top 300 prospects. Only two interior offensive lineman are ahead of him on Brugler’s list, including O’Cyrus Torrence (No. 37) and Peter Skoronski (No. 7), who also plays tackle. Brugler says “Avila collects a body count with his heavy hands to make early contact in pass pro or drive block in the run game.”
How he fits
Avila has a larger body type than the Rams generally have looked for in the past at that position. But, it could be a sign of their intention to re-introduce some teeth in the run and the pass games after a disastrous, injury-filled 2022.
Avila can also play zone or gap schemes, and controls the point of attack well because of his strength and size.
Rookie impact
The Rams need Avila to compete for playing time right away, and he does project well into doing so. They currently have an open position at left guard, where Avila will enter training camp as the favorite.
Early expectations
McVay has mentioned for the last few seasons that he needs to overhaul and rejuvenate his run game, but the Rams have struggled to establish consistency here in part due to injuries and constantly changing personnel. If Avila is the stout, stable presence he is touted to be, he should have a multiyear impact for the offensive line in the run. In the pass, Avila was named a consensus All-American within TCU’s downfield attacking style, and didn’t give up a single sack in 2022.
Fast evaluation
Most would call an offensive lineman a “safe” pick, but for a team that has often swayed toward skill players in early rounds and also has so many questions up front on both sides of the ball, this is a solid selection and an immediate boost to their roster, if Avila can take the field as advertised.
The Rams should be able to add some nastiness on the field and a young leader to their locker room when Avila arrives in Thousand Oaks, Calif. in the coming weeks.
znModeratorRams pick Byron Young: Adds speed, rushing power to inexperienced position
New Rams edge Byron Young, who was selected at pick No. 77 on Friday night, has had quite the journey.
He went from no-star recruit who didn’t have the grades to attend a Division I school, to postgraduate school to get his grades together, to assistant manager at Dollar General where he saw a flier for tryouts at Georgia Military College in the spring of 2019. From there, Young (who also lost the 2020 season because of the pandemic), got his tape to junior colleges and eventually became the No. 1 ranked juco edge rusher in the 2021 recruiting class. He graduated with his associate’s degree in November and signed with Tennessee in December.
That’s where Rams area scout Billy Johnson latched on to his potential, and saw it all the way into the pick sent in by general manager Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay.“Props to him, for the journey he’s been on,” Johnson said. “When you turn the tape on, he stands out (from) the explosiveness that he shows and being able to get off the ball and generate pressures just from a speed aspect of it.”
Senior personnel executive Brian Xanders noted that Young had 80 sacks, hits and pressures total over his unique career.
“Everybody (on our staff) has done two years of tape on him, and he just shows this explosiveness, the power, speed, the closing acceleration,” Xanders said. “He’s an explosive, big, powerful edge rusher that is disruptive and tough.”
Xanders noted that in the Rams’ internal analytics profiling system, Young tested in the top 10 percent of the edge rushers they evaluated in this class.
Young ranked No. 116 on Dane Brugler’s list of Top 300 prospects and was his No. 17 overall edge prospect in this year’s draft class.
How he fits
Young adds a lot of speed and rushing power to a really young, inexperienced outside linebacker rotation currently in Los Angeles. His versatility as a pass rusher will mean defensive coordinator Raheem Morris and outside linebackers coach Joe Coniglio will expect to move him in a variety of different packages, on a variety of downs. Brugler noted that Young needs to improve his ability against the run, and after just a short time in Division I football it’s understandable that Young is a work in progress here. He and Coniglio discussed his development in this phase in their pre-draft Zoom call earlier this month.
Young noted Friday that he loves his “ghost” pass-rush move, which he models after future Hall of Fame outside linebacker Von Miller (who won a Super Bowl with the Rams).
Rookie impact
The Rams’ defense is extremely thin and there will be a competition at nearly every position on the roster. Young has the opportunity to work in a rotation with Michael Hoecht (another player who is an intriguing blend of speed and power) and Daniel Hardy (a smaller speed rusher). Of course, it’s never terrible to have Aaron Donald in the middle. Young will also have a shot on special teams, because his 4.43-second 40-yard dash is an eye-popping addition to their coverage units.
<p class=”go-deeper-title”>Early expectations </p>The Rams lacked diversity and in turn, effectiveness in their pass-rusher combinations in 2022, and Morris had to dig deeper into the bag of blitzes and pressures from defensive backfield players and linebackers, which left the middle of the field under their match-zone vulnerable to the quick-game. Teams got the ball out at record rates against the Rams last season. Picking Young, who blends a versatile package of rush techniques with his speed, seems to be a direct counter to that.
Fast evaluation
Young has proven over his journey that he is relentless. The Rams drafted him with high expectations that his current techniques and extraordinary athletic ability will translate within their scheme and coaching into a special player. They also filled a big need at this pick.
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueFrom our analysis on OLB Byron Young, Rams pick No. 77: “Athletic twitch, quick first step, picks up steam as a bull-rusher…relentless motor…not yet every-down player (re. run defense).” High upside as speed rusher with some power waiting to be developed.
znModeratorLes just said Aaron Donald was “jacked” about the Byron Young and Kobie Turner picks — specifically Turner, who Les sees similarities with him and Donald in terms of their get-off… per the post-draft show https://t.co/jkxhy4QvTP
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) April 29, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueMcvay and Snead were asked whether they’re targeting QBs on day 3. McVay (drily): We’re actually thinking we’re gonna be the first team ever to carry 1 QB the whole year. Snead (even more drily): We’re not gonna punt. I don’t know who is kicking off. It’s gonna be cool.
znModeratorIf there is that guy in the 3rd round who ends up being a super star pass rusher 3 yrs from now. It’s @RamsNFL pick Byron Young. He might have the most explosive first step in the draft he is built like a Greek god. And he has incredible strength
— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) April 29, 2023
znModeratorMine is Jack Youngblood
Do you man Jim? Jack was a 1st rounder, Jim was the 2nd rounder.
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znModerator1 sack in 915 pass pro snaps!! Hold on Ramily he might be HIM. https://t.co/SiaJ2RZFl4
— Rams Tapes (@RamsTapes) April 28, 2023
znModeratorRams pick No. 36, iOL Steve Avila, gave up zero sacks in 2022.
In the run game? “He is in the business of moving people.”
More: https://t.co/27qzzPyeDG— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 29, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueWords scouts we just spoke with just used about Kobie Turner: “Obsessed, relentless, havoc-creator, no setbacks (in development so far), hustling, nobody will work harder, smart, competitive, tough.”
znModeratorThe Rams made three picks on Friday night, all of which were along the offensive and defensive fronts. How did they do? https://t.co/vnrBNne6qz
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 29, 2023
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueKobie Turner on playing with Aaron Donald: “it’s insane.” He adds that he’s undersized and always has been. So he watched and studied for years how Donald uses his hands and how he puts together his setups and leverage work..Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVPAmong DT’s that are draft eligible this year, Kobie Turner ranked pretty damn well in 2022 (per @PFF , 100-plus snaps): – 3rd-highest PFF grade (92.2) – 93.1 run-defense grade (1st) – 88.8 pass-rush grade (5th) – 3 sacks (26th) – 34 pressures (6th) This is really impressive.
znModeratorThe Rams took Wake Forest DT Kobie Turner at No. 89 overall, continuing to fortify the trenches https://t.co/d8lfPl630k
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 29, 2023
znModeratorKOBIE TURNER | Wake Forest 6024 | 293 lbs. | 6SR Clifton, Va. (Centreville) 4/26/1999 (age 24.00) #0
BACKGROUND: Kobie Turner, who is one of four children, grew up in Clifton with two main passions: football and music. He started out with flag football and then pee-wee and youth-level football. Turner attended Centreville High School and played on the JV team as a freshman. He moved up to varsity as a sophomore, seeing snaps at tight end and middle linebacker as Centreville advanced to the 2014 state title game with a 12-3 record. Turner became a starter as a junior, primarily as a blocking tight end and linebacker. As a senior, he earned second team all-state and first team all-region as both a defensive end and tight end, accounting for 70 tackles and one forced fumble. Turner starting singing in choir in middle school and also learned how to play the guitar, piano and drums. He earned all-state honors in chorus as a senior in 2017. A no-star recruit out of high school, Turner wasn’t ranked by the online recruiting services and went overlooked by college programs. Instead of attending recruiting camps his junior year, he was more focused on his music. His high school teammate and cousin (Caleb Brooks) signed with Richmond in the 2017 class and Turner was introduced to the Spiders’ coaching staff, who extended an offer to walk on. He planned to give football one year to see what happened and ended up earning a scholarship less than a year on campus. Turner also sang baritone for Richmond’s music department Schola Cantorum choir. Looking to challenge himself against better competition, he earned his undergrad degree at Richmond and entered the transfer portal after the 2021 season. He considered offers from Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech before committing to Wake Forest. His older brother (AJ) was a running back and defensive back at South Carolina (2015-19). Turner accepted his invitation to the 2023 East-West Shrine Bowl.
YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES
2017: Redshirted Richmond
2018: (11/0) 5 2.5 1.5 0 0 0 Richmond
2019: (12/12) 71 14.5 7.0 1 0 0 Richmond; Third Team All-CAA; led team in TFL; Blocked XP
2020: (4/4) 19 6.0 3.5 1 0 0 Richmond; First team All-CAA; CAA Defensive POY; Team captain; Season played in 2021 spring
2021: (11/11) 54 10.5 4.0 2 0 0 Richmond; Second team All-American; First team All-CAA; 2 FR TDs
2022: (13/0) 38 10.0 2.0 3 2 0 Wake Forest; Third Team All-ACC; Led team in FFs
Total: (51/27) 187 43.5 18.0 7 2 0HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
COMBINE N/A (not invited)
PRO DAY 6024 293 31 3/8 10 1/4 76 3/4 – – – – 8’0” 4.49 7.08 31STRENGTHS: Plays with outstanding balance, flexibility and grip strength at contact … extends and punches off blocks while maintaining body control to slip through gaps … rips, tugs and uses whatever else he can find in his bag of tricks to break down the rhythm of blockers … impressive short-area quickness to operate in constricted spaces … small-framed for an interior player, but has good musculature throughout his body … efficient play recognition skills and doesn’t lose sight of the football … credited with four batted passes in 2022 … competes hard and plays with reckless abandon … his teammates and coaches rave about his work ethic and drive (on and off the field) … consistent backfield production since he entered the starting lineup.
WEAKNESSES: Owns a tweener frame with only average length … will have a tough time against long-armed blockers who get into his chest … his hands are heavy and hungry, but too inconsistent with their placement … inconsistent fundamentals taking on doubles … needs to stay square when working laterally and will occasionally sacrifice his positioning to make a play … needs to continue refining his pass rush repertoire and overall timing … wasn’t a starter in his one season at the FBS level (and registered only two sacks) … will be 24 on draft weekend.
SUMMARY: A reserve in his one season at Wake Forest, Turner lined up primarily over the B-gap in defensive coordinator Brad Lambert’s scheme. A former walk-on at Richmond, he was an FCS All-American before transferring to Wake Forest for his final season where he was part of the defensive line rotation (averaged 40.2 defensive snaps per game in 2022). Nicknamed “The Conductor” for his disruptive skills and burgeoning music career, Turner stays balanced through congestion and his gas tank is never on “E” (accounted for 41 tackles for loss over 40 games played the last four seasons). He plays much stronger than his listed weight, but might struggle against NFL length and power. Turner is a tad undersized and is guilty of freelancing out of his run fits, but he plays with bouncy feet, forceful hands and affects the game with his relentless effort. He projects as a rotational 3-technique in the NFL with potential to be more.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersYES. We loved Kobie Turner. Going to rush the passer opposite of Aaron Donald, who will absolutely help to refine his technique. Love love that we’re supporting Donald. Had a 4th round grade on him and wanted to see them go with some of our best available, but happy with it!.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueFrom our analysis on DL Kobie Turner, the Rams’ pick at No. 89: “Relentless, bouncy on his feet, great balance and flexibility and fantastic work ethic.” Adds Turner plays “much stronger” than his listed weight of 293. Nickname is apparently “The Conductor” for his music ability.
znModeratorKobie Turner DT selected, people predicted him in the 5th round, rams picked him up in the 3rd. pic.twitter.com/WoVuwbg4HP
— Rams Tapes (@RamsTapes) April 29, 2023
znModerator𝗣𝗜𝗖𝗞 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡: With pick 89 overall in the 2023 NFL Draft, the #Rams are selecting DT Kobie Turner
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 29, 2023
znModeratorHere’s our analysis of Pick No. 36, TCU guard Steve Avila: pic.twitter.com/TIl4tWBSGH
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 28, 2023
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