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August 11, 2016 at 11:03 am in reply to: Bernie Sanders Buys Third House – A Mere $600k “Summer Vacation House”… #50553
znModeratorSFW? lol
It’s like the “people on the left are racist too!” crap you hear from some righties. As in…why not just condemn racism instead of trying to deflect blame for it.
B, people here see through stuff like that beyond instantly.

znModeratorRamzee
Camp Report 8/9/16
Finally getting to a camp report. I’ll keep it short and sweet. I have another camp to get to early this morning and the drive is loooooooong.
The big story out of Rams camp on Tuesday was Jared Goff taking reps with the 1’s in the 2 minute drill. No starting QB in this league is giving up important reps like that unless there’s a chance he may not be the starting QB for much longer. Goff has been making strides in camp. On Friday vs the 2’s, Goff had 3 potential INT’s during the 2 minute drill portion before throwing a nice TD on a fade to end the drill. On Tuesday, no such errors. A nice improvement over the course of a few days. He’s starting to look more comfortable out there but he’s going to need as many reps as possible to get ready if he’s to play this season.
By the time I got to camp, I was already 30 mins late. I wanted to see the OL vs DL drills but it was too far off on the other field so I focused on the LBers vs TE’s and HB’s. The big thing I took from this drill though is that our new rookie TE can block! Higbee isn’t just a receiving threat. He plays with great leverage, gets nice and square, mirrors and shuffles his feet well. He doesn’t wait to catch defenders either and has a nice punch. Hemingway OTOH got blown up by Mark Barron on a solid bullrush. He just exploded right into him and jolted him heavily backwards, into a would-be QB.
znModeratorMike Singletary has seen some talented defensive players in his day. So when he says Aaron Donald stands out, that really means something.
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99. I’ve never seen a kid like that.”
Different version:
SunTzu_vs_Camus
I loved what new coach Singletary says about ADonald….in that 5 sec. clip..”I have not seen a DT… EVER….do what that kid that does!!! ”
wow. Now that is some praise.
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znModeratorThe True History of Libertarianism in America: A Phony Ideology to Promote a Corporate Agenda
Before Milton Friedman was earning plaudits as an economic genius, he was a shill for the real estate industry and an early pioneer for big business propaganda known as libertarianism.This article kicks off what will be a focus of coverage of AlterNet over the next few months on the corporate-funded “pro-market” arm of libertarianism in America and the sophisticated methods of inserting business propaganda into the public debate.
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Every couple of years, mainstream media hacks pretend to have just discovered libertarianism as some sort of radical, new and dynamic force in American politics. It’s a rehash that goes back decades, and hacks love it because it’s easy to write, and because it’s such a non-threatening “radical” politics (unlike radical left politics, which threatens the rich). The latest version involves a summer-long pundit debate in the pages of the New York Times, Reason magazine and elsewhere over so-called “libertarian populism.” It doesn’t really matter whose arguments prevail, so long as no one questions where libertarianism came from or why we’re defining libertarianism as anything but a big business public relations campaign, the winner in this debate is Libertarianism.
Pull up libertarianism’s floorboards, look beneath the surface into the big business PR campaign’s early years, and there you’ll start to get a sense of its purpose, its funders, and the PR hucksters who brought the peculiar political strain of American libertarianism into being — beginning with the libertarian movement’s founding father, Milton Friedman. Back in 1950, the House of Representatives held hearings on illegal lobbying activities and exposed both Friedman and the earliest libertarian think-tank outfit as a front for business lobbyists. Those hearings have been largely forgotten, in part because we’re too busy arguing over the finer points of “libertarian populism.”
Milton Friedman. In his early days, before millions were spent on burnishing his reputation, Friedman worked as a business lobby shill, a propagandist who would say whatever he was paid to say. That’s the story we need to revisit to get to the bottom of the modern American libertarian “movement,” to see what it’s really all about. We need to take a trip back to the post-war years, and to the largely forgotten Buchanan Committee hearings on illegal lobbying activities, led by a pro-labor Democrat from Pennsylvania, Frank Buchanan.
What the Buchanan Committee discovered was that in 1946, Milton Friedman and his U Chicago cohort George Stigler arranged an under-the-table deal with a Washington lobbying executive to pump out covert propaganda for the national real estate lobby in exchange for a hefty payout, the terms of which were never meant to be released to the public. They also discovered that a lobbying outfit which is today credited by libertarians as the movement’s first think-tank — the Foundation for Economic Education — was itself a big business PR project backed by the largest corporations and lobbying fronts in the country.
It starts just after the end of World War Two, when America’s industrial and financial giants, fattened up from war profits, established a new lobbying front group called the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) that focused on promoting a new pro-business ideology—which it called “libertarianism”— to supplement other business lobbying groups which focused on specific policies and legislation.
The FEE is generally regarded as “the first libertarian think-tank” as Reason’s Brian Doherty calls it in his book “Radicals For Capitalism: A Freewheeling History of the Modern Libertarian Movement” (2007). As the Buchanan Committee discovered, the Foundation for Economic Education was the best-funded conservative lobbying outfit ever known up to that time, sponsored by a Who’s Who of US industry in 1946.
A partial list of FEE’s original donors in its first four years— a list discovered by the Buchanan Committee — includes: The Big Three auto makers GM, Chrysler and Ford; top oil majors including Gulf Oil, Standard Oil, and Sun Oil; major steel producers US Steel, National Steel, Republic Steel; major retailers including Montgomery Ward, Marshall Field and Sears; chemicals majors Monsanto and DuPont; and other Fortune 500 corporations including General Electric, Merrill Lynch, Eli Lilly, BF Goodrich, ConEd, and more.
The FEE was set up by a longtime US Chamber of Commerce executive named Leonard Read, together with Donaldson Brown, a director in the National Association of Manufacturers lobby group and board member at DuPont and General Motors.
That is how libertarianism in America started: As an arm of big business lobbying.
Before bringing back Milton Friedman into the picture, this needs to be repeated again: “Libertarianism” was a project of the corporate lobby world, launched as a big business “ideology” in 1946 by The US Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers. The FEE’s board included the future founder of the John Birch Society, Robert Welch; the most powerful figure in the Mormon church at that time, J Reuben Clark, a frothing racist and anti-Semite after whom BYU named its law school; and United Fruit president Herb Cornuelle.
The purpose of the FEE — and libertarianism, as it was originally created — was to supplement big business lobbying with a pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-economics rationale to back up its policy and legislative attacks on labor and government regulations.
This background is important in the Milton Friedman story because Friedman is a founding father of libertarianism, and because the corrupt lobbying deal he was busted playing a part in was arranged through the Foundation for Economic Education.
According to Congressional hearings on illegal lobbying activities 1946 was the year that Milton Friedman and his U Chicago cohort George Stigler arranged an under-the-table deal with a Washington lobbying executive to pump out covert propaganda for the national real estate lobby in exchange for a hefty payout, the terms of which were never meant to be released to the public.
The arrangement between Friedman and Stigler with the Washington real estate lobbyist was finally revealed during a congressional review of illegal lobbying activities in 1950, called the Buchanan Committee. Yes, there was something called accountability back then. I only came across the revelations about Friedman’s sordid beginnings in the footnotes of an old book on the history of lobbying by former Newsweek book editor Karl Schriftgiesser, published in 1951, shortly after the Buchanan Committee hearings ended. The actual details of Milton Friedman’s PR deal are sordid and familiar, with tentacles reaching into our ideologically rotted-out era.
False, whitewashed history is as much a part of the Milton Friedman mythology as it is the libertarian movement’s own airbrushed history about its origins; the 1950 Buchanan Committee hearings expose both as creations of big business lobby groups whose purpose is to deceive and defraud the public and legislators in order to advance the cause of corporate America.
The story starts like this: In 1946, Herbert Nelson was the chief lobbyist and executive vice president for the National Association of Real Estate Boards, and one of the highest paid lobbyists in the nation. Mr. Nelson’s real estate constituency was unhappy with rent control laws that Truman kept in effect after the war ended. Nelson and his real estate lobby led what House investigators discovered was the most formidable and best-funded opposition to President Truman in the post-war years, amassing some $5,000,000 for their lobby efforts—that’s $5mln in 1946 dollars, or roughly $60 million in 2012 dollars.
So Herbert Nelson contracted out the PR services of the Foundation for Economic Education to concoct “third party” propaganda designed to shore up the National Real Estate lobby’s legislative drive — and the propagandists who took on the job were Milton Friedman and his U Chicago cohort, George Stigler.
To understand the sort of person Herbert Nelson was, here is a letter he wrote in 1949 that Congressional investigators discovered and recorded:
“I do not believe in democracy. I think it stinks. I don’t think anybody except direct taxpayers should be allowed to vote. I don’t believe women should be allowed to vote at all. Ever since they started, our public affairs have been in a worse mess than ever.”
It’s an old libertarian mantra, libertarianism versus democracy, libertarianism versus women’s suffrage; a position most recently repeated by billionaire libertarian Peter Thiel — who was Ron Paul’s main campaign funder in his 2012 presidential campaign.
So in 1946, this same Herbert Nelson turned to the Foundation for Economic Education to manufacture some propaganda to help the National Association of Real Estate Boards fight rent control laws. Nelson chose to work with the FEE because he knew that the founder of the first libertarian think-tank, Leonard Read, agreed with him on a lot of important issues. Such as their mutual contempt for democracy, and their disdain for the American public.
Leonard Read, the legendary (among libertarians) founder/head of the FEE, argued that the public should not be allowed to know which corporations donated to his libertarian front-group because, he argued, the public could not be trusted to make “sound judgments” with disclosed information:
“The public reporting would present a single fact—the amount of a contributor’s donation—to casual readers, persons having only a cursory interest in the matter at issue, persons who would not and perhaps could not possess all the facts. These folks of the so-called public thus receive only oversimplifications or half-truths from which only erroneous conclusions are almost certain to be drawn. If there is a public interest in the rightness or wrongness of corporate or personal donations to charitable, religious or education institutions, and I am not at all ready to concede that there is, then that interest should be guarded by some such agency as the Bureau of Internal Revenue, an agency that is in a position to obtain all the facts, not by Mr. John Public who lacks relevant information for the forming of sound judgments…Public reporting of a half-truth is indeed a significant provocation.”
So in May 1946, Herbert Nelson of the Real Estate lobby, looking for backup in his drive to abolish federal rent control laws on behalf of landlords, contacted libertarian founder Leonard Read of the FEE with an order for a PR pamphlet “with some such title as ‘The Case against Federal Real Estate Control’,” according to Karl Schriftgiesser’s book The Lobbyists.
What happened next, I’ll quote from Schriftgiesser:
“They were now busily co-operating on the new project which the foundation had engaged Milton Friedman and George J. Stigler to write. It was to be called Roofs and Ceilings and it was to be an outright attack on rent controls. When Nelson received a copy of the manuscript he wrote Read to say, “The pamphlet…is a dandy. It is just what I wanted.”
The National Association of Real Estate Boards was so pleased with Milton Friedman’s made-to-order propaganda that they ordered up 500,000 pamphlets from the FEE, and distributed them throughout the real estate lobby’s vast local network of real estate brokers and agents.
In libertarianism’s own airbrushed history about itself, the Foundation for Economic Education was a brave, quixotic bastion of libertarian “true believers” doomed to defeat at the all-powerful hands of the liberal Keynsian Leviathan and the collectivist mob. Here is how libertarian historian Brian Doherty describes the FEE and its chief lobbyist Leonard Read:
“[Read] would never explicitly scrape for funds… He never directly asked anyone to give anything, he proudly insisted, and while FEE would sell literature to all comers, it was also free to anyone who asked. His attitude toward money was Zen, sometimes hilariously so. When asked how FEE was doing financially, his favorite reply was, “Just perfectly.”… Read wanted no endowments and frowned on any donation meant to be held in reserve for some future need.”
And here is what the committee’s own findings reported—findings lost in history:“It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the Foundation for Economic Education exerts, or at least expects to exert, a considerable influence on national legislative policy….It is equally difficult to imagine that the nation’s largest corporations would subsidize the entire venture if they did not anticipate that it would pay solid, long-range legislative dividends.”
Or in the words of Rep. Carl Albert (D-OK): “Every bit of this literature is along propaganda lines.”
The manufactured history about libertarian’s origins, or its purpose, parallels the manufactured myths about one of big business’s key propaganda tools, Milton Friedman. As the author of The Lobbyists, not knowing who Milton Friedman was at the time, wrote of Friedman’s collaborative effort with Stigler:
“Certainly [the FEE’s] booklet, Roofs or Ceilings, was definitely propaganda and sought to influence legislation….This booklet was printed in bulk by the foundation and half a million copies were sold at cost to the National Association of Real Estate Boards, which had them widely distributed throughout the country by its far-flung network of local member boards.”
There’s no idealism here. The notion that libertarian ideas have captured the political imagination of millions in this country is a root problem: if we’re going to escape the corporate oligarchy that is running this country–their ideas can’t possibility be the alternative solution. This movement has to be recognized for what it is.
znModeratorTrump will win. For some of the very reasons mentioned in this thread, mainly he’s not the establishment.
I surface long enough to say this (without debating it) then go back under. And I am still cranky.
Yeah he is. He is a typical republican right-wing version of all the establishment stuff. And therefore much worse. Fight women’s choice, make the rich richer through tax policies, deny climate science, promote white nationalism, cut back corporate taxation. He is a supply side type who wants to increase economic inequality, fight gun control, fight police reform etc.. He will have a right-leaning supreme court and will always be saying stupid things (which is why I am baffled at this idea that he’s “trying to lose” recently. He’s no different now than he ever was. Nothing has changed.)
He’s just a particularly ignorant and outspoken version of all that, as a personality. But then not that much more ignorant than GW II. But his republican style economic policies alone will virtually guarantee the lives of the majority will be worse, whereas the dem version of economic policy will actually fix some of that.
Some of my leftist friends don’t see all that but then mostly we’ve been discussing personalities and not policies so it’s easier to not see things that way.
In fact I suppose I will just have to start some policy threads and see if anyone contributes to them.
znModeratorGetting excited to see how QBs,Cowboys perform before 90,000 in preseason opener
The Los Angeles Rams are expecting more the 90,000 as the Los Angeles Coliseum for Saturday’s preseason game against the Dallas Cowboys.
It’s not just the preseason opener for both teams but the first NFL game to be played in Los Angeles since Rams and Raiders bolted nation’s second largest city in the 1990s.
It will present an opportunity for Cowboys coach Jason Garrett to see how his team, particularly the young quarterbacks Dak Prescott and Jameill Showers, perform under the spotlight.
“As we go along in training camp you are always trying to up the ante and see how players respond to different circumstances,” Garrett said. Even early on in practice we create these situations where we circle guys up and a pass rusher goes against an offensive lineman in one-on-one setting with everyone watching. And there is a reason we do that, to see how they perform on stage. And the preseason games give us a great opportunity to do that as well. It will be a great atmosphere at the Coliseum this Saturday night. It’s an honor and privilege to play in this game. It will be fun to see how guys respond to that. To be in that iconic stadium, be in that atmosphere, the Rams coming back to the NFL. It will be a really good setting for our team and a great evaluation opportunity for all of us.”
znModeratorCowboys rookie RB Ezekiel Elliott not expected to play in first preseason game Saturday against LA Rams
OXNARD, Calif. – Dallas Cowboys fans waiting to see the debut of first-round pick Ezekiel Elliott will have to remain patient.
The running back isn’t expected to play Saturday in the Cowboys’ opening preseason game at the Los Angeles Rams because of a strained right hamstring that has kept him out of practice for the last week.
“If you don’t practice, you usually don’t play,” Cowboys running backs coach Gary Brown said about Elliott’s availability against the Rams, adding that nothing has been decidedly officially.
Cowboys coach Jason Garrett never likes to rule players out early in a game week, but he also indicated the Cowboys would be extra cautious with their four overall pick out of Ohio State.
“He falls into the category of soft tissue injuries that you have to be pretty deliberate with before you bring guys back,” Garrett said. “That’s one of those injuries if you bring him back a day or two too soon all of a sudden you can have a six- or seven-week injury and we don’t want that for him.”
Running back DeMarco Murray had a similar start to his Cowboys’ career, missing his first two preseason games his rookie season in 2011 with a strained hamstring.
With Elliott not playing against the Rams, he could make his Dallas debut in front of Cowboys fans in their second preseason game Aug. 19 against Miami at AT&T Stadium.
Elliott last practiced Aug. 2. He’s been working on the side for the last week and had a slight limp Tuesday when he made his way over to sign autographs after practice.
“He looks good. He looks better,” Brown said. “But first and foremost we’re going to do what’s best for us and what’s best for Zeke.”
znModeratorPractice Report 8/10: Drilling Special Teams
Myles Simmons
With the usual camp battles brewing on offense and defense, it’s sometimes easy to overlook the competition for the the Rams’ third unit — special teams.
The club puts a high priority on finding players who can contribute there at a high level, which is why sessions like Wednesday’s special-teams only practice are important. Last week, the club used the same type of time period to take a basic look at how players competed. For Aug. 10, Los Angeles went without pads to work more on skill development in anticipation of the first preseason game on Saturday night.
Special teams coordinator John Fassel — better known around the team as ‘Coach Bones’ — put the players through a few circuits of drills, and also had them work through kickoffs and punts.
“We like to see on tape, individual guys moving, reacting, bending, twisting, turning — all of the stuff that shows up when you start doing 11-on-11,” Fassel said. “Plus it’s fun to kind of compact some things and do some different drills.”
Aside from performing well on the field, one of the best ways to make a good impression with Fassel is to hang around the coach in his office. The way linebacker Cameron Lynch described it is reminiscent of students going to office hours with a college professor, saying he, Bryce Hager, and Bradley Marquez were constantly around.
“When I was a rookie, I was in Bones’ office every single day,” Lynch said. “Every day after practice, we sit now — nine, 10 o’clock — ‘Hey Bones, can we get some extra work in?’ So that was our mentality last year — me, Brad, Bryce — was just to make sure we’re in Bones’ ear and face at all times. And we just went all out during practice and the games and it showed.”
“They just can’t get enough,” Fassel said. “We just watch film, we watch them in the drill, we watch other NFL players who we think are really good on special teams, the similar positions. Something about a football player that just can’t get enough football that seems to always have the edge.”
Because the first preseason game is now just a few days away, Lynch said it’s important for players to make sure they know exactly what they need to do for the different units in order to make the best impression.
“That determines whether you make the team or not, whether or not you can learn the counting system when it comes to punt. Or kickoff return, knowing who to block so they won’t bust through your coverage,” Lynch said. “It’s a transition. And as long as you’re open to trying new things and trying your hardest, Bones will give you praise. If you just try your best, Bones will appreciate it.”
According to Fassel, there are elements of the game that are more apparent in the preseason matchups, which makes them essential for determining roster spots. There are a few specific attributes he’s looking for during the game on on film.
“I think guys that are willing to collide and be open-field tacklers,” Fassel said. “Out here, we can simulate the movements and the techniques, but when you get in the game, and you’ve got a live runner and you’ve got to square him up and collide and block, or two-gap and tackle — those things really stand out that is different from what we get on the practice field.”
KICKING AT THE COLISEUM
One among the many adjustments Rams players will have to make playing at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum this year has to do with sight lines and the kicking game.
“There’s a depth perception at either end with the field goals. One side where it’s the torch and it’s kind of an arch with a hole in it, so there’s some depth perception. Then, the other side is just a huge grandstand, bowl,” Fassel said. “There’s things we worked on in the Coliseum, targets, because there is some weird sighting depending on which way you kick.”
While place kicking is one thing, punter Johnny Hekker said he’s not too worried about how his job will be affected.
“Definitely being in a big bowl where the stands are kind of set back from the field is a little different — getting mental pictures. But the wind is the same for every punter and every kicker that comes in there,” Hekker said. “That’s what pregame is for. You get used to what you’re doing. You go in there with a game plan.”
“We’re going to hopefully get in the Coliseum a couple more times before the regular season starts and try to figure it out, because it definitely swirls a little bit,” Hekker continued. “But it’s the same for everybody. The field’s 100 yards long. We’ve all got to play the same game.”
znModeratorBy JACK WANG / STAFF WRITER
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/zuerlein-725348-one-rams.html
COLLISION COURSE
The Rams have held two special teams practices during training camp at UC Irvine, but Saturday’s preseason game against the Dallas Cowboys will allow coaches a better look at a particular trait.
“Guys that are willing to collide,” Fassel said. “Be open-field tacklers. Out here, we can simulate the movements and the techniques, but when you get in a game – and you’ve got a live runner and you’ve got to square them up and collide and block, two-gap and tackle – those things really stand out.”
znModeratorRams hope Jared Goff less confused by defenses than where sun rises
Steve Dilbeck
IRVINE, Calif. — The most stunning aspect to the Rams’ debut on HBO’s “Hard Knocks” on Tuesday wasn’t a wide receiver getting cut for having a female visitor in his room, but prized rookie quarterback Jared Goff not knowing from which direction the sun rises.
That would be Jared Goff, who went to Cal, ranked by U.S. News as the fourth-best university on the planet.
Alas, there were apparently some things Cal assumed you already knew.
But the series exposed Goff’s particular bit of ignorance during a meeting with quarterbacks coach Chris Weinke. The show had its fun with it, later showing Goff in the Goodyear blimp with fellow rookie Pharoh Cooper.
Goff asked Cooper if he knew where the sun rose and the wide receiver said, “In the air?”
“East,” Goff informed him. “Apparently it’s well known.”
Yeah, maybe not. Rams linebacker Cameron Lynch was asked if he could say Wednesday and struggled like he was asked to do his Will Hunting at MIT imitation.
“Uh, I don’t know,” he said.
Special teams coach John Fassel was shown in the debut show with his toddler running into his arms. Asked if she knew yet where the sun rose, he responded, “No, but she’s always at the beach so she knows it sets in the West.”
But Fassel said no one should be surprised if players are unaware that the sun rises in the East.
“No, they don’t know,” he said. “I had to think about it when you just asked me. I was like, ‘Wait a second.’ We have our minds on football right now.”
Asked if it was remotely possible the players were struggling with this basic bit of knowledge because the franchise had recently arrived on the West Coast, he said: “That could be. You almost kind of have to switch. In St. Louis we don’t know, the sun is like in the middle.”
Punter Johnny Hekker, a five-year veteran, volunteered he was aware from which direction the sun rose.
“Young guys these days,” Hekker said. “As long as [he] can throw the football and move in the pocket, I don’t care what he knows about the sunrise and set.”
Informed Goff was hardly alone on the team in his confusion, Hekker shrugged.
“We’re going to be OK,” he said. “We just have to concern ourselves with football and that’s what we’re here to do. The sun will continue to do what it’s doing.”
znModerator– Mike Singletary has seen some talented defensive players in his day. So when he says Aaron Donald stands out, that really means something.
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99. I’ve never seen a kid like that.”

znModeratorThe top 5 quotes from the Hard Knocks season premiere
Chris Vannini
http://www.coachingsearch.com/article?a=The-top-5-quotes-from-the-Hard-Knocks-season-premiere
The latest season of Hard Knocks kicked off Tuesday night, featuring the Los Angeles Rams in their new home, and there was no shortage of angry coaches.
Here were the top five quotes from the premiere:
– Jeff Fisher cut wide receiver Deon Long for having a girl in his room after curfew. Fisher told Long:
“I’m sorry, but this is our world, man. We’ve got rules and we’ve got to abide by them. It’s not the first time I’ve done this for this particular violation, but I thought I made myself very clear, what we do. It’s not that hard. We’ve only got a couple rules. I wish you the best. Good luck to you.”
– Later on, Tavon Austin left practice with cramps, because he only had two bananas for lunch. Fisher lit into the team.
“How many times have you heard me talk about the little things and what impact the little things have on the bigger things. How are you feeling, Tay? You good? Just cramped? What did you have for lunch? Two bananas. We were two receivers down before practice started. Then Coop has a quad and we shut him down, that’s three. You have two bananas. That’s four. Four receivers down, so what happens? I start cutting reps. Then you guys that deserve the reps don’t get it, because — I’m serious — he had two bananas for lunch.
“Little things are important, you follow me? I’m not f*cking going 7-9 or 8-8 or 9-7, OK? Or 10-6 for that matter. This team’s too talented. I’m not going to settle for that. I know what I’m doing. We had 7-9 bullshit this morning. Deon’s gone, that is 7-9 bullshit. We don’t need it. You guys take ownership of this thing, OK? You take your ownership and you trust that I know what I’m doing, and we’ll be just fine.”
– Quarterbacks coach Chris Weinke made it clear Jared Goff has to step up his game, after struggling with long play-calls and working under center.
“Your expectation is up here. I know you’re a rookie. I don’t give a f*ck, to be honest with you. Everybody’s watching what you do. You can’t f*cking hide. You can’t. It ought to give you chills. You know how many teams are in the NFL? There’s 32. You know how many starting quarterbacks there are? There’s 32, and you are wired to be the starting quarterback of this football team. But how does that happen? It doesn’t just happen through osmosis and you saying, ‘I’m No. 16, I’m going to start.’
“That ain’t f*cking happening. I’m going to tell you right now. It’s up to you. Some people can’t handle the position you play. They definitely can’t handle the position you’re in.”
– Defensive line coach Mike Waufle is a former Marine and is intense as they come. In a position meeting, he laid down the law.
“Don’t f*cking challenge me. I don’t want any bullshit. I don’t want any f*cking body language. When I say jump, you say how f*cking high. We’re going to f*cking work. You could probably f*ck me up and have a good time trying to do it. I ain’t scared. … We destroy things. We are nasty. We have a chip on our shoulder. We want to f*ck you up. There’s a bomb in this f*cking room. We’re going to blow the NFL up. We’re going to blow the f*cking NFL up.”
– Mike Singletary has seen some talented defensive players in his day. So when he says Aaron Donald stands out, that really means something.
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99. I’ve never seen a kid like that.”
znModeratorHacksaw_64
notes from camp 8/9
Special teams work was big today. Fisher was hands on with the special teams unit. He was working with the speed guys lining up outside in punt coverage.
Hekker made some nice angled punts. Tavon was returning. Couldn’t tell if Pharoah Cooper was working back there with him today.
Hekker showed of his arm on a bullet sideline throw to….wait for it. #60 Eric Kush who made a nice catch RAC. He also threw a nice deep touchdown pass over the middle to the back of the endzone. Hekker may have the third best arm on the team, behind Goff and Mannion…
Brian Quick started off in drills by making a half hearted one handed drop on a ball he should easily catch. His woes continued by going up and getting his hands on two apparent TD passes that he was unable to come down with. You could here the resounding “thud” as the ball bounced of his not so soft hands. Sometimes you play like you practice. It looked like he got a lot of reps today with the 2’s. He may be moving down the depth chart.
Tavon looks great. Our db’s can’t cover him if they lay off him or he gets out of his break off the LOS. He still has some trouble with good press coverage. Not to knock him because he does stand out as our best receiver, but Tavon looks like a real liability blocking in the run game.
Mike Thomas had a couple uncharacteristic drops today. He did redeem himself after his last drop by running a great route and making a TD catch. Showing off his great hands, reach and balance to secure the ball before going out of bounds. Don’t worry he’ll be fine. This cat is so smooth. He just looks natural at all phases of the receiving game. He reminds me a little of Isaac Bruce when he was a rookie. We can only pray he can turnout to be anywhere close. I’ll take a young poor man’s Bruce for now…
Bradley Marquez got mixed time with ones and two’s. He does go all out all the time. Not a lot on the day that I noticed except for one great adjustment he made for a completion on about a 20 yard out to the wide side of the field. Goff got the ball out fast and on a rope but it was one of his rare off target throws that was behind Marquez. Bradley was able to reach back and haul it in. Sometimes you need your receivers to make you look good. He did just that.
Pharoah Cooper got a lot of time with the 1’s. In fact the starting receivers on the first series were Britt(wide), Cooper(Inside), Tavon(slot) one one side and I think It was Mike Thomas lined up wide on the other side of the field. Of course it was a clear out play that Keenum dumped to Tavon underneath.
Nelson Spruce may be moving up a notch. He split time with ones and two’s. He continues to get open in space somehow. He hauled in a nice grab on about a 25 yard toss by Keenum that took forever and all his strength to get there. But it just did drop in over the top. He is making a real push to make the final 53.
Duke Williams I have to say looks like he is taking this whole thing seriously. I noticed him giving max effort in drills. He seems to really stepped up his game that final notch. He was giving a 100 percent all the way to the end. Looked more focused and I didn’t see him not get to a ball in drills. The other day he kinda “hot dogged” a reception just going for the one handed highlight catch. It was questionable if he secured the ball for a catch before going out of bounds. If he goes up with two hands he probably wouldn’t have had that problem. There was none of that for Duke today. I’m guessing he got an earful from the coaches when reviewing tape. Its real nice to see Duke taking this opportunity serious given his past issues. I think the veteren support of guys like Tavon in combination with the tougher competition along with some marked success when he does everything right is going a long way to further his development. The question is. Can he keep his head down and keep up this new behavioral tact for the duration. If he can I think it will pay dividends. I don’t see Britt or Quick being long term solutions. If he can master the playbook and show that he can willingly block in the running game i think he has a chance to replace Quick. That is of course unless Quick somehow shocks me and has the breakout season we have all been all too patiently waiting for. I’m pretty sure the main reason Quick gets another chance is that he is probably our best blocking WR in the run game. I’m rooting for Duke.
Todd Gurley seems to be our new addition to our WR group. They split him out wide again. I think he needs some work making the right read on his routes. Goff threw the ball right to the spot where it looked like Gurley should have broken of his route. But he ran down the sideline oblivious. Gurley in drills looks like he has stepped up his game in pass protection. Which is great to see. Not that he was bad last year, but imo its something he needs to master. I like the idea of being able to keep Gurley in the game on third down. I’m not so sure I like him being lined up as a WR leaving no one to protect the QB. I much prefer him releasing out of the backfield after getting a chip block on the blitz pickup. Our biggest area of improvement needs to be converting on third down. Putting Goff, Gurley, Higbee and even Spruce on the field at the same time on third downs could be the gamechanger the Rams have desperately needed. Face it Fole/Keenum, Cook, Quick, and then inserting Benny as your 3rd down pass blocking back(telling the defense your gonna pass) wasn’t exactly putting the fear of God in NFL defenses.
Benny looks like a new back hes in great shape. Did you guys realize that Benny ran a sub 4.4 forty (I think it was 4.39) at Middle Tennessee St. That’s smokin’ for a guy his size.
” Cunningham was one of the state’s top performers in the sprinting events. At the 2009 TSSAA State T&F Championships, he took gold in both the 100 meters, with a time of 10.6 seconds, and in the 200 meters, at 21.86 seconds. In addition, he competed in the 800 meter run event and was a member of the 4x100m relay squad. He also recorded a 4.39 40-yard dash in practice.”
The only reason he didn’t get drafted was because he had a pretty bad knee injury. He was on everyones radar.:
Check out the 1:55 and 3:24 mark.
I think I would use Benny to spell Gurley during the season for more for as entire series than just on third downs. I think the Rams are going to try and limit Gurley’s workload more than you think this year. Which is fine by me Benny looks like he has finally fully recovered and got his “jets” back.
Kendricks had one real nice catch from Goff. Then later dropped a ball that hit him right in the hands. Seems like he has at least one of those every practice. Its a little alarming after his not so sure hands last season.
Hemmingway was finally in pads today but he was getting limited reps. No routes. They definitely have him throttled back. He had a trainer in tow with him all practice. Seemed to be really working on stretching out his calves. I have to surmise he’s coming off some kind leg/tissue of injury. He was really putting in the extra work before and after practice. Last week UDFA Benson Brown got most of his second and third team reps. Its too bad because Brown really doesn’t nearly as talented. But hey you need bodies in camp. Hemmingway did get a couple chances to show off his pass blocking skills in a one on one drill against a blitzing LB. I missed the first one but ramsman told me it wasn’t good. His second try he was up against a blitzing LB lined up on his outside shoulder. It looked like he beat bad coming of the snap but he made a quick adjustment and absolutley stoned the oncoming blitzer. He wasn’t getting anywhere near the QB once he got locked up.. Hopefully he heals up because being so raw he can’t afford to get behind on reps.
Harkey and Justice Cunningham both each had snot knocking wham blocks in the run game.
Keenum overall wasn’t horrible but I wouldn’t say he was good either. He gets the majority of his completions on checkdowns and underneath routes. And I think that is actually smart, because he has some real arm limitations. In fact Greg Williams pretty much ignored covering his receiver on the wide side of the field. Keenum had Thomas flaked out wide left and Williams decided to cover him with a Safety cheating toward the middle and about 20 yards of the receiver. Daring Keenum to loft one out there. Thank God he didn’t dare. I think Case had two picks today. A couple more that should have been. One was an easy pick six for any decent NFL db on one of the floating out routes to the short side of the field.
Goff got ended up getting first team reps towards the end of practice with Keenum moving down to the second team. He looked crisper at the LoS and getting his plays off.Threw a nice deep ball that landed in the corner of the endzone. Thomas stumbled on his break and couldn’t get to what should have been a TD. He moved the offense real well once again in the two-minute drill. Moving the chains by getting yards in chunks.
The defense looked like they had the upperhand today
Aaron Donald had a stripsack return for a TD>
Marcus Roberson continues to fly under the radar at TC. He had tight coverage all day. Didn’t see a ball thrown his way for good reason.
Ogletree looked like he was having trouble coming off blocks in the middle. Got completely engulfed and taken out of the play a couple times.
Greg Williams was yelling at his defense like it was the Super bowl.
Mike Singletary was watching the defense and taking notes on every play from a view behind the middle of the defense. He would get down in his LB stance before each play. I think he primarily was focusing on MLB.
znModeratorWell done JM.
I’ll be over in a bit. No need for a formal sit down, just load up my plate.
znModeratorWe All Thought the Voting Rights Act Was a Permanent Victory. We Were Wrong.
Lessons from the newly insane state of North Carolina, and the Rev. William Barber.Here in the shebeen, we often remind new patrons that, when it comes to things that it really wants to do, the conservative movement—and the Republican Party for which it is the primary lifeforce—has taken to heart Stalin’s order to the Red Army when Operation Barbarossa kicked off in 1941: Ni shagu nazad, Not One Step Backwards.
Recently, there have been a number of stunning victories in various courts that are aimed at curtailing the various state-level voter suppression schemes that sprung up after Chief Justice John Roberts declared the Day of Jubilee in writing the majority opinion in the Shelby County case. In all cases, it seems, federal appeals courts have had enough of pretending that voter suppression laws have anything to do with protecting anyone’s right to vote and everything to do with restricting people’s right to vote through regimes that best can be referred to as Jim Crow 3.0.
Today Is a Great Day for Voting Rights
One of the more resounding defeats for this new trickeration came last week from the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, which parked the heinous new voter ID law passed by the legislature in the newly insane state of North Carolina about eighteen miles east of Cape Hatteras. Just as a reminder, this is what the Court said about the law in question:
“We cannot ignore the record evidence that, because of race, the legislature enacted one of the largest restrictions of the franchise in modern North Carolina history. The court seems to have missed the forest in carefully surveying the many trees.”
This decision, and similar ones in Texas and Wisconsin, were greeted with the appropriate huzzahs. However, remember, ni shagu nazad.
Not one step backwards.
Texas Won’t Be Suppressing Any Votes Today
Almost immediately after the decision came down from the appeals court, the battlefield shifted to the homeground of various county officials. Those of us old enough to remember that Bull Connor isn’t a Kevin Costner baseball movie remember well what happens when Massive Resistance filters down to local yokeldom. And, as NBC News points out, local yokeldom remains up to the task. And, to give local yokeldom credit, it at least is being honest about its motivation. There’s no more mock horror at imaginary voter-fraud.
But now the battle over voting in the Tarheel State is shifting to the local level—amid concerns that the court’s decision could let county election officials impose new schemes to limit access to the polls. Indeed, Francis De Luca, the head of a leading conservative think tank in the state, is publicly urging counties to do just that, saying making voting harder is just “partisan politics”—and that’s fair game.
Thank you, Francis DeLuca, for making John Roberts look like the faker he is. Anyway, the skids were well on their way to being greased.
One result of the decision is that counties must now draw up new early voting plans providing 17 days of early voting. That has voting rights advocates worried that some counties could take the opportunity to cut early voting sites and reduce hours, even as they add the additional seven days—with the potential result that access for some voters could end up being not much better than it would have been under the GOP law. The state’s local election boards are all controlled by Republicans. By state law, local election boards comprise three members: one Democrat, one Republican, and one member of the governor’s party.
Luckily, for the moment anyway, and thanks to leaders like Reverend William Barber, the shebeen’s official preacherman, the people of North Carolina have wised themselves up. On Monday night, there was a wild meeting of the Guilford County Board of Elections in Greensboro. As the News & Record reports, a potential bag-job regarding early voting was pretty much shouted off the table.
Hundreds of people packed the commissioners’ meeting room Thursday, filling every seat and lining the walls. Before the meeting began, a handful of residents approached the dais to plead for a public comment period. “There’s a lot of us that have children at A&T and UNCG and want to speak on our children’s right to vote,” Rabbi Fred Guttmann said. “What you’re doing is basically tearing at the fabric of American democracy.” But Board of Elections Chairwoman Kathryn Lindley declined to provide time for audience members to address the board. “If you want to have a press conference,” she told Guttmann, “please do that outside of this meeting.” Without a chance to voice their concerns, audience members grew restless, allowing board members only a few minutes to speak before erupting in chanting, clapping and shouting. Eventually, the crowd linked arms and began singing, “We Shall Not Be Moved.” Security officers, along with Lindley, pleaded with the crowd to be quiet, to no avail. Eventually, board members pushed back their chairs and debated behind the dais as the crowd chanted, clapped and demanded to be heard. After nearly 10 minutes, a small group of reporters and interfaith leaders approached Lindley, who stated, “We have voted, and the plan is in place.” The leaders, including Guttmann and the Rev. Julie Peeples, quieted the crowd so Lindley could announce the board’s decision.
What came out of the meeting is a compromise plan that revived an extended early voting period and provided more polling places, whereas the original plan floated in response to the circuit court decision would have targeted likely Democratic voters with limited early voting and the closing of convenient polling place in and around UNC-Greensboro and North Carolina A&T.
As DeLuca said, just partisan politics, right?
As approved, early voting will begin on weekdays from Oct. 20-26 in the blue room of the old Guilford County Courthouse, from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. On Thursday, Oct. 27, the county will open 24 additional voting sites from 8 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. until Saturday, Nov. 5, when hours switch to 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. Sunday voting will take place only on Oct. 30, from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. The plan will not take effect until it is approved by the North Carolina State Board of Elections.
The lessons here are many and varied. First of all, the importance of paying attention to local offices—and, indeed, voting in local election and running candidates for them—cannot be overestimated. (Corollary: The federal courts remain a deal-breaking issue if you live in a battleground state.) Second, a lot of the pushback came from Barber’s Moral Monday movement, which is to say, outside formal political institutions. This, I might add, is the way you conduct a political revolution.
And last, no political victory ever is permanent. We all thought the Voting Rights Act was a permanent victory. We were wrong. Ni shagu nazad, Stalin said, and after millions died and his country was devastated, his side won.
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znModeratorPFF: CASE KEENUM OVER JARED GOFF WISE SHORT-TERM MOVE FOR RAMS
Bringing Jared Goff along slowly smart move for Rams: Ian Rapoport tweetedyesterday that there is a real chance that quarterback Case Keenum enters the 2016 season as the starter for the Los Angeles Rams. While first-overall pick Jared Goff (Cal) is starting to get some first-team reps, the news isn’t entirely surprising if the Rams want to bring their franchise quarterback along slowly. Goff is going to be the Rams’ starting quarterback at some point, and it would be surprising if he didn’t take the reigns during the 2016 season at some point.
Keenum has graded negatively on 942 snaps over the course of his career so far, but did finish three of his five starts in 2015 with a positive grade, so the Rams are at least in fairly safe hands if the veteran indeed begins the season as the starter. He was solid throwing the ball downfield last season, completing six of the 17 passes traveling 20 yards or more downfield, but one area in which he struggled was passing under pressure. On plays where the opposing defense didn’t get pressure, Keenum completed 68.5 percent of his passes for 679 yards, three touchdowns, and no interceptions; when under pressure, that dropped to 41.7 percent, 149 yards, a single touchdown, and an interception. Under pressure, Keenum’s quarterback rating dropped from 102.2 to 51.7.

While it makes sense to start Keenum early in the year if Goff isn’t quite ready, Rams fans will be eager to see their quarterback of the future, especially after such an impressive 2015 college campaign. His final season at Cal saw him grade higher than both Jameis Winston’s final season at Florida State and Marcus Mariota’s final season at Oregon, and both of those players finished their NFL rookie seasons with an overall positive grade. That doesn’t mean Goff will definitely play well as a rookie, but it’s interesting to compare him to two players who handled themselves fairly well in their first pro seasons.
It’s easy to understand why the Rams want to ease Goff into the pro game gently, rather than throwing him in at the deep end, but he was the top player selected in this draft for a reason, and has the arm to make big-time throws in the NFL. He excelled throwing the ball downfield in his final season at Cal, completing 44 of the 100 passes he attempted over 20 yards or more downfield. It looks like Keenum will open the preseason as the starter, but it also wouldn’t come as a shock to see Goff outplay him and win the top job before the season begins.
znModeratorI enjoyed the episode immensely, as I knew I would as a fan of the show. But for some reason I was very unsettled by Goff not knowing where the sun rises. I can’t imagine Andrew Luck (or even Carson Wentz) not knowing this? Does that strike anyone else as strange?
Isiah 58
I wasn’t disturbed by it, more amused (though I didnt watch the episode, as you see I just gathered info on it to post here).
Let;s just say that 20-somethings never cease to amaze me. Very sophisticated in some arenas, and dirt ignorant in others.
Just be glad they didn’t ask him any questions about the constitution or things like that.
znModeratorPractice Report 8/9: Running with the 1s
Myles Simmons
There are plenty of benchmarks for a rookie quarterback. The first time he straps on the helmet, his first OTA practice, his first training camp, his first preseason game — the list goes on.
It’s one checkpoint, but on Tuesday Jared Goff took some of his first live snaps with the first-team offense for a two-minute drill.
“It was designed to give him a chance to work with the ones in two-minute,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “It’s always good to get him working with the other offensive linemen and get him a chance to work with
Tim [Barnes] from a communications standpoint, because Tim is so smart up front. Tim can take some of that load off him and let him play.”
Goff excelled at the two-minute drill on Saturday at the Coliseum when he led a drive that finished in the end zone, and Tuesday displayed many of the same skills. For the situation, the quarterback’s objective was to put the offense in position to kick a game-winning field goal after taking over with under a minute left on the clock and two timeouts. It’s not particularly easy to accomplish that against Los Angeles’ vaunted defense, but Goff and the offense was able to just the same.
“He took the ball right down the field and got points and that was good,” Fisher said.
Fisher has maintained since the draft that Goff will move into the starting quarterback role when he’s ready. But the natural progression will see Goff taking more snaps with the first-team offense as the preseason goes on.
“That’s part of the process,” Fisher said. “As I mentioned, he’s getting walk-thru reps with the ones. This is one of the first or second times he’s gotten live reps with the ones, but that will increase.”
Overall, offensive coordinator Rob Boras said he’s been pleased with Goff’s progress throughout the two weeks of camp.
“Jared is getting better — just like we hope everybody is getting better,” Boras said. “It takes guys two or three times running the play before they really feel comfortable with it, and you saw that across the offense today. So, Jared is handling everything well.”
As for Goff’s upcoming first preseason action against the Cowboys, Boras said he just doesn’t want Goff to try and do too much.
“We want him just to relax Saturday night,” Boras said. “It’s just kind of like when we started OTAs and we started training camp — everybody gets on edge. There’s a lot of expectations. The more that he can go out there and just settle in, like we saw him settle in at the Coliseum during the Family Day, he’s going to play confident.
“We know he’s talented, so [it’s a matter of] him just doing what he does,” Boras added. “And, obviously, everyone else just playing football around him.”
ON THE ROOKIES
Aside from Goff, two rookies who have been impressing throughout training camp have been the Rams’ fourth-round draft picks wide receiver Pharoh Cooper and tight end Tyler Higbee.
Both have taken significant snaps with the first-team offense, and Fisher has labeled the pair as players who should be able to contribute sooner than later.
“Coop is handling everything really well,” Boras said. “We love what Pharoh can do. It’s great to get him back out.”
The offensive coordinator had similar glowing remarks for Higbee.
“Tyler really has handled everything well. It started fast, and I don’t know why, but you get to that point where you’re kind of waiting for that rookie slump,” Boras said. “It hasn’t happened.
“We’re putting him in some situations that he wasn’t asked to do in college, and handling it very well,” Boras added, saying Higbee has never had to block a player like defensive end Will Hayes. “There’s not many Will Hayes. When you’re asked to block that, that’s different than what he’s had to do. You do that enough times, you better learn how to drop your pads and play a little stronger.”
Much like the approach with Goff, Boras said he wants both players to be able to relax against the Cowboys this weekend and just go play football.
“Obviously, Saturday night we’re going to try and get those guys going and just feeling comfortable, and not trying to overthink anything,” Boras said.
AUTOMATED TACKLING DUMMIES
It’s rare for teams to run through tackling to the ground in practice for a number of reasons — player safety chief among them. But with the help of some clever folks at Dartmouth, there’s an alternative method that’s been spreading around the game.
The Rams brought in automated tackling dummies on Monday and began implementing them into practice on Tuesday. Defensive backs used the bags in their individual drills and they were also used for special teams drills. Plus, middle linebacker Alec Ogletree went through some of his warm ups with the dummy, getting a feel for how it can be utilized to help the team improve.
“They’re pretty cool,” Ogletree said. “Doing linebacker drills, I can kind of read the dummy and just kind of go do what I’ve got to do and actually hit it, too. You’re actually hitting a moving target instead of something that’s sitting still. The game of football — there’s nothing sitting still.”
The dummies have are steered by a remote control that gets them to where they need to be on the field and in drills.
“We were aware of the concept and the prototypes a long time ago and they just got the first two out, so we invited them out,” Fisher said. “There’s a place for it at our level and there’s a place for these things at all levels. In this day and age when we’re so concussion-conscious and contact-conscious, live contact between players — you want to reduce as much as you can, but you still have to have the contact. This is an opportunity to hit a bag that’s moving and a bag that moves around pretty fast.
znModerator“Hard Knocks” spotlights Goff, shows how far he still has to go
Zac Jackson
Hard Knocks spotlights Goff, shows how far he still has to go
On the same day Rams coach Jeff Fisher told reporters that 2016 No. 1 overall draft pick Jared Goff will soon be getting more first-team reps, the annual “Hard Knocks” inside training camp show debuted on HBO and featured Rams camp.
Goff got the treatment from the show’s cameras and producers that you’d expect a top pick in Los Angeles to get. He’s the headliner, even before he’s the starter, and the first of the show’s five episodes started by showing how far Goff still has to go.
A montage of botched snaps, whether or not they were Goff’s fault, was followed by clips of Goff talking with coaches and trying to relay plays through the huddle. The show’s producers also carefully chose a clip of Goff on set with NFL Network after one practice saying he’s never been a backup quarterback at any level.
At one point cameras caught Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams telling Fisher and other Rams staffers that Goff has never huddled — “not in middle school, not in high school” — so it’s understandable that he’s getting used to both the verbiage of the offense and relaying it.
“Offenses in the NFL, you’ve got to have a f—–g catalog to call plays,” Williams said.
The HBO cameras were also on hand for a one-on-one session with Goff and quarterbacks coach Chris Weinke.
“Everybody is watching what you,” Weinke told Goff. “You can’t f—–g hide. It ought to give you chills.
“This doesn’t just happen. You don’t just say, ‘Hey, I’m No. 16, I’m the starting quarterback. That ain’t f—–g happening.”
Like happens on any good quasi-reality show, the struggles are followed with brighter moments. Cameras caught Goff getting extra post-practice work with wide receiver Kenny Britt, asking Britt for more reps to make up for poor throws, and later caught Williams telling his defense it needed to keep the offense out of the end zone for one play in an 11-on-11 situation.
Right on cue, Goff threw a touchdown pass.
“That was real,” cameras caught Rams defensive lineman Mike Waufle saying to his fellow coaches after one Goff pass. “He threw a strike. That’s a quarterback, man.”
znModeratorLast year they got in fights practicing with Dallas. Including an entire team fight.
There are probably memories of that.
This year, they are shown on Hard Knocks, and their talk includes things like this: Mike Waufle: The former Marine is the defensive line coach. “We are going to blow up the NFL,” he told his linemen during a colorful speech.
Talk like that can sometimes get other teams to say so you think you’re a big deal, well prove it.
znModerator‘Hard Knocks’ lesson No. 1: Rams coach Jeff Fisher will not be 7-9 (again)
By ESPN.com
At his first training camp meeting with his team, Los Angeles Rams coach Jeff Fisher laid out the rules.
1. Be on time.
2. No visitors to the dorms at the University of California-Irvine.
Cut to the next day. Fisher calls wide receiver Deon Long, who broke rule No. 2, to his office. Fisher cuts Long from the team so beginning another season of “Hard Knocks,” the HBO reality series which will follow the Rams through training camp.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher has emphasized early in training camp how not following the team’s rules can prevent it from excelling.
After letting Long go, Fisher uses him as an example. He says that kind of behavior will lead to a subpar season.“Little things are important, you follow me?” Fisher said. “I am not f—ing going 7-9 or 8-8 or 9-7, OK? Or 10-6 for that matter. This team is too talented. I am not going to settle for that, OK? I know what I am doing. We had some 7-9 bulls— this morning. Now, Deon’s gone. That is 7-9 bulls—. We don’t need it.”
Fisher knows what 8-8, or worse, feels like. In 16 seasons as a head coach in the NFL, he has six winning seasons, the rest were .500 or below. Now, he is leading the Rams back into Los Angeles 21 seasons after they left for St. Louis.
Fisher will do it with rookie quarterback Jared Goff, who was the No. 1 overall pick in the draft out of Cal. If the first episode of “Hard Knocks” is any indication, Goff will be one of this season’s stars.
Since the dorms at training camp were not air conditioned, Goff sent 60 fans to the offense and offensive coaches. Fisher was less than impressed.
“So the offense has fans and the defense doesn’t?” Fisher asked. “Great way to start off.”
Goff also struggled on the field. The rookie never called plays in the huddle in high school or college. His confusion with the pro-style offense showed with a variety of fumbles and incompletions. Later, in the quarterbacks’ room, assistant coach Chris Weinke let Goff have it.
“Your expectation is up here,” Weinke said, raising his hand to the sky. “I know you are a rookie; I don’t give a f—, to be honest with you. Everybody’s watching what you do. You can’t f—ing hide; you can’t. It ought to give you chills. You know how many football teams there are in the NFL?”
“Thirty two,” Goff answered.
“You know how many starting quarterbacks there are?” Weinke asked.
“Thirty two,” Goff said again.
“There’s 32, and you are wired to be the starting quarterback of this football team,” Weinke said. “But how does that happen? It doesn’t just happen through osmosis and ‘I am No. 16, so I am going to start.’ That ain’t f—ing happening. I am going to tell you that right now. It’s up to you. Some people can’t handle it. Some people can’t handle the position you play. They definitely can’t handle the position you’re in.”
Goff proves to be an intriguing, perhaps naïve character. He admits to coaches he does not know where the sun rises — “East,” he tells a teammate later. “Apparently it’s well known” — and his love for pop star Taylor Swift.
Here are some others with star potential for the final five episodes:
Tavon Austin: The receiver fails to eat lunch — he had two bananas — before practice and cramps up. Fisher berates Austin’s behavior during the 7-9 speech. At the end of the episode, Austin shows his playful side, taking a golf cart around the Cal-Irvine campus to play Pokemon Go.
Aaron Donald: The defensive tackle is billed as the best player in the NFL you have never heard of. He didn’t show a ton of personality, but gets plenty of admiration from coaches and players for his athletic ability.
Todd Gurley: The second-year running back does plenty of trash talking and is called “lippy but lovable.” He is also doing commercials for California burger joint Carl’s Jr.
Eric Kush: As the Rams’ center, Kush tells Goff how much pressure to apply to his rear end to make it clear he is ready for the snap. He also walks viewers through his wardrobe of tank tops and 36 pairs of socks. “The key is to never have to wash socks at training camp,” he said.
Mike Waufle: The former Marine is the defensive line coach. “We are going to blow up the NFL,” he told his linemen during a colorful speech.
znModeratorRamBall
Let me start with a big THANK YOU to CoachO and all the others that gave us camp reports the past 5 or more years. Today there were group drills going on all over and I had a hard time getting anything from any of them.
But what little I did get, Higbeast will be a big weapon, dude catches everything. Duke looked good in Wr drills. Online is just out matched by our Dline, no surprise but IMO it makes a lot of what happens in the team sessions meaningless, our QBs would have been sacked on almost every pass play. The bright side, the Online looked to be opening holes for the run game.
We sat on the wrong side to start practice, then had poor seating so didn’t get a lot of video today, did get some interesting bid of punt fielding drills.
Cooper has looked good when I’ve watched him, but he hasn’t been targeted much in team drills, Coop, Duke and Spruce all 3 look to have good hands, Thomas has had good days and so so days, same with Quick. They both look great 1 min, then get the drops, Quick also seems to have trouble holding onto the ball he dropped a hand off on an end around yesterday.
znModeratorJoe Curley @vcsjoecurley
“I think he is a Pokemon… He sure is hard to catch.” – Les Snead on Tavon Austin. #HardKnocksJoe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Singletary on Donald: “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99.”Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Singletary on Donald: “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99.”Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley 3h3 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
We’ve found our Hard Knocks star. Eric Kush is hysterical.Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley 4h4 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
First Hard Knocks release comes in the opening minutes with Fisher’s phone call to Nick Foles. “I hope you land on your feet.”Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley 4h4 hours ago Los Angeles, CA
“We finally out here. Now we gotta win…. There’s too much to do out here.” – Rodger Saffold
znModeratorOffensive coordinator Rob Boras wants Jared Goff "to just relax" Saturday night in his preseason debut. pic.twitter.com/WwMrbQaNjB
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) August 10, 2016
znModeratorBoras said the Rams have challenged Tyler Higbee by asking him to block DE William Hayes. pic.twitter.com/gAX7lOhclN
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) August 10, 2016
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Fisher says Tyler Higbee has the qualities needed to play in the open field, needs to continue working on blocking. pic.twitter.com/0rpn6GafkV
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) August 10, 2016
znModeratorHBO's Hard Knocks: 12 best moments and takeaways from episode one
It’s finally here. HBO’s Hard Knocks with the Los Angeles Rams began on Tuesday night, and even though it was the first episode there was still plenty to take in from the action. Let’s jump into it with the best moments and key takeaways.
1. Jared Goff must have made a pretty nice first impression
The rookie QB ordered 60 (yes, 60) fans for the offense and offensive coaches to use during training camp. Obviously, this was a pretty huge deal at first, as the dorms didn’t have air conditioning or fans at first. Fortunately, the team wound up ordering each player and coach personal air conditioning units.2. Eric Kush is convinced there is such a thing as ‘going out tanks’
I’m not really sure I can get on board with the fact that there are tank tops that are specifically good for going out.What's @EricKush64 philosophy on life? You can NEVER have enough tank tops. #SunsOutGunsOut #Hardknocks pic.twitter.com/Emzr5c0NNd
— NFL Films (@NFLFilms) August 10, 2016
3. Deon Long was cut for having a female visitor in his room
When Fisher released Long, we weren’t exactly sure why. Thanks to Hard Knocks, we found out it was due to Long having a female in his room, something that Fisher made clear was not allowed when explaining the rules of training camp. Long didn’t look completely shocked, and it was a short conversation, capped with Long thanking Fisher and then going on his way.4. Goff’s personality showed up way more
He was sarcastic, outgoing and essentially sought out conversations with teammates and coaches. Best of all, he was majorly interactive with the fans. This seemed to be a different player from the mildly-quiet quarterback who we saw after he was drafted No. 1 by the Rams this offseason.5. Every Rams player came to camp in shape
Early on in the show, Fisher and the coaches put the players through a conditioning test. While it was apparently pretty grueling, the good news was that each player passed the test, showing that the team came to California ready to roll.6. Aaron Donald is awesome at ping pong. Eugene Sims? Not so much
As good as Donald was at ping pong, Sims did let his teammate down a bit, as the two wound up losing their game against two UC Irvine students. Maybe we’ll get a rematch at some point in the coming episodes.7. We got an update on Tavon Austin’s cramps, and it involved two bananas
For those who are curious, Austin did eat lunch the day that he cramped up. Unfortunately, his lunch consisted of exactly two bananas. That explains it pretty well.8. Aaron Donald’s got really good hands
Donald joked at one point, stating ‘who has the best hands on the team?’ after making multiple catches, including a one-handed grab. In all honesty, though, watching him catch passes was actually really impressive.Here’s a quick sneak peak of Donald catching passes, via NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport:
Odell who? That's what #Rams DL Aaron Donald would like to know pic.twitter.com/J6K09zRnKi
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 8, 2016
9. Defensive line coach Mike Waufle is down-right intimidating
If not a single one of his multiple speeches to his defensive line gave you goosebumps, then you might not be human. The guy is just all in, all the time, and it’s awesome.10. Goff and Keenum’s budding friendship seems like the real deal
The two slowly seemed to get closer, from a quick pat on the back to joking about Goff’s interest in Taylor Swift. This heated training camp competition isn’t likely to be one that turns sour quickly, as both QBs seem more than happy to support each other.11. Kenny Britt and Kush had no issue staying after practice with Goff
While much of the love went to Goff for staying after practice to get extra reps in, both Britt and Kush were more than happy to stick around and work with Goff for what seemed like an extended time after practice.12. Tavon Austin drove around UC Irvine’s camp catching Pokemon
Pokemon Go is taking over, and Austin made sure to get on the train. He spent one night riding around learning the ins and outs of the game, while also getting super excited about the Pokemon he wound up catching. It was pretty enjoyable to watch overall.
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Tyler Higbee – TE – Rams
Sports Illustrated’s Greg Bedard reports Rams fourth-round TE Tyler Higbee is having a “great” training camp.
Bedard went as far to attach a Travis Kelce comparison to Higbee, noting the rookie’s “swagger, playing style, and the defense wanting to punch him in the face.” Kelce plays with a noticeable edge, and Higbee seems to be in the same mold. Higbee (6’6/249) would have come off the board before the fourth round if not for some serious off-field concerns. In a Rams offense devoid of playmaking pass catchers, Higbee has a chance to play a ton of snaps right out of the gate. But it’s worth noting, rookie tight ends face one of the steepest learning curves in the sport. Higbee is someone to target in Dynasty with an eye toward 2017.
Source: Greg Bedard on Twitter Aug 9 – 9:40 PM
znModeratorJared Goff takes snaps with Rams’ first team
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-training-camp-20160809-snap-story.html
As milestones go, it wasn’t groundbreaking.
It was incremental.
And once again Jared Goff performed without major error.
On Tuesday, the rookie quarterback for the first time took snaps with the first-team offense during a training camp practice.
The opportunity came during a two-minute drill, another step in preparing the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft for Saturday’s exhibition opener against the Dallas Cowboys, and a march toward possibly starting the Sept. 12 season opener against the San Francisco 49ers.
“Jared’s handling everything well,” offensive coordinator Rob Boras said. “We want him to just relax on Saturday night.”
Case Keenum will start against the Cowboys but Coach Jeff Fisher has said that Goff would probably play a half.
Fisher said Goff’s reps with the starters would increase but reiterated that there would not be a quick decision regarding when Goff might ascend to the top of the depth chart.
“We’re going to start him when he’s ready to play,” Fisher said. “It’s all about the process. It’s about being patient.”
Goff had taken reps with the first-team offense during training camp walkthroughs, but Tuesday marked his first time working with starters in a live situation.
The period started awkwardly with what appeared to be a miscommunication on a pass play. But Goff came back and delivered two consecutive strikes to tight end Lance Kendricks and another to receiver Tavon Austin before a running play and a field goal.
“He took the ball right down the field and got points,” said Fisher, who noted that Goff would benefit from working with starting center Tim Barnes.
“Tim is so smart up front,” Fisher said. “Tim can take some of that load off of him and just let him play.”
Remote control
The Rams became the latest NFL team to debut remote-controlled tackling dummies.
The padded “Mobile Virtual Players” are capable of moving quickly in all directions.
“They’re pretty cool,” middle linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “For me doing linebacker drills, I can read the dummy and just kind of do what I’ve got to do and actually hit it too.
“You’re actually hitting a moving target instead of something that’s sitting still. In the game of football, nothing’s sitting still.”
The technology has a place in the NFL and all levels of football, Fisher said.
“In this day and age when we’re so concussion conscious and contact conscious, live contact between players you want to reduce as much as you can,” he said. “But you still have to have the contact. This is an opportunity to hit a bag that’s moving. And a bag that moves around pretty fast.”
Fisher operated the remote control after the morning walkthrough.
“If I could get it to go up stairs, I’d have them do bed check,” he said, jokingly.
Quick change
Receiver Brian Quick signed what is a considered a one-year “prove-it” deal during the off-season.
Quick, a second-round pick from Appalachian State in 2012, acknowledges the situation.
“You have to come out there and grind if you want to go get something,” said Quick, who will be paid $1.75 million. “Let actions control everything.”
Quick caught only 10 passes in 13 games last season. He has 64 receptions, seven for touchdowns.
The 6-foot-3 Quick has made several impressive leaping catches during camp, and appears to be making strides under Mike Groh, the new receivers coach and passing game coordinator.
“’He’s staying healthy and he’s running all day long, which is good,” Fisher said. “Hopefully, that will transfer over to production in the preseason games.”
Notes
Cornerback Trumaine Johnson intercepted a pass by Keenum and also broke up a long pass toward the end zone. … Keenum made several impressive throws, including one delivered sidearm. Rookie receiver Michael Thomas dropped a long pass in the end zone. … Second-year receiver Bradley Marquez is quietly enjoying a productive camp and making multiple catches during team drills. … Andrew Donnal got extensive work at right tackle after Rodger Saffold came out of an early drill. … Running back Malcolm Brown broke off several strong runs. … The Rams have a special-teams practice Wednesday.
znModeratoroff the net from ADonaldBeast
We destroy things, we are nasty, we have a chip on our shoulder, WE WANT TO F $$$ YOU UP!!!!
How many of you got chills when you heard this. Wow. Mike Waufle is officially my favorite ram coach. That was awesome. Watching this over and over again
off the net from bluecoconuts
Loved the extra work by Goff on the fades, he really showed off his redzone skills in the end.
Donald getting upset about Ping Pong was pretty funny.
My favorite line was about Goff taking snaps from under center. “Your knuckle needs to be in his icehole, get in there” with Kush responding “That’s what I told him!”
off the net from Ramsblood
Loved the Hard Knocks show tonight.
Our D- line, and shout out to coach Waffle, is going to strike fear in most any offense. Can’t wait for Donald-newfreak, Quinn, Hayes and company to destroy teams.
Gurley’s frikin hilarious and super talented.
The UDFA’ s need to learn how to swim.
That yoga instructor is HOT!!
Jeff Fisher needs to invite me to his Montana Ranch in between camps.
Donald is yolked. Can play a mean ping-pong.
off the net from A55VA6
high praise from Mike Singletary on Aaron Donald: “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kid like 99. I’ve NEVER seen a kid like him.”
Also, the bit we saw of Gurley – he looked freaking quick. He has a chance to be scary good this year. And Goff threw a few beautiful balls in that goal line drill
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