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    Obvious points:

    Wentz is a generational QB in the mold of Rothlisberger.

    Keemun has limitations.

    Goff would take time to learn the system.

    Goff may be talented and better someday than Wentz but we won’t see that for awhile.

    Keemun played well against Buffalo within the structure of this offense.

    If our O Line were better, Keenum and Gurley would be better….so would Goff.

    Our offense, while getting better, lacks downfield threat.

    Wentz was schooled and experienced at play action behind center.

    We Ram fans are frustrated over this loss and need to vent.

    We all want to see Goff on the field soon.

    Fisher is a coach that divides our loyalties because we expect to win.

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    from the wiki

    Dwayne Gratz

    College career

    Gratz enrolled in the University of Connecticut, where he played for the Connecticut Huskies football team from 2008 to 2012. After redshirting during the 2008 season, he saw his first collegiate action in 2009. He played in all 13 games and started four of the final five games of the regular season, and recorded 20 tackles and four pass deflections. In 2010, he started all 13 games at cornerback. He had a 46-yard interception return for a touchdown in the second quarter of the 2011 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. He was the third-leading tackler on the team with 63 stops, and also led the team with nine pass breakups. In 2011, he was named to the all-conference second team. He was the fifth-leading tackler on the team with 53 tackles and was tied for the team lead with three interceptions, had 4.5 tackles for loss for 12 yards on the year and also had four pass breakups. In his final collegiate season, he made 53 total tackles, 3.5 TFLs and led the team with three interceptions to go with 11 pass breakups, and was named to the all-conference second team for the second consecutive season.

    Professional career

    Gratz was drafted in the third round, with the 64th overall pick, by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the 2013 NFL Draft. He registered his first career interception on November 10, 2013 against Tennessee Titans quarterback Jake Locker.

    On October 10, 2016, Gratz was released by the Jaguars.

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    Rams claim Dwayne Gratz

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    Rams claim Dwayne Gratz

    The Rams have claimed cornerback Dwayne Gratz.

    Gratz was waived by the Jaguars Monday when the team activated cornerback Aaron Colvin.

    The Rams need help at cornerback with Trumaine Johnson expected to miss some time. Last weekend the Rams released cornerback Coty Sensabaugh, who has since signed with the Giants.

    Johnson suffered a high ankle sprain in last weekend’s loss to the Bills.

    Grazt had played in three games this season for the Jaguars. He played in 40, starting 25, since being drafted by the Jaguars in 2013. He has three career interceptions.

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    2013 SCOUTING REPORT

    CB DWAYNE GRATZ

    5’11”
    201LBS

    OVERVIEW

    Even though Connecticut’s 2011 Orange Bowl, 48-20, blowout loss to Oklahoma was not particularly fine moment for the Huskies -– or Big East Conference football -– Gratz actually matched his team’s offensive point total (six, as the other touchdown came on a kickoff return) by intercepting Sooners quarterback Landry Jones and returning the ball 46 yards to the end zone. Making that sort of play as a sophomore, and building on it over the next two years, has allowed scouts to project him as mid to late-round pick.

    Gratz was a first-team all-region pick in Piscataway, N.J., as well as an all-county pick in track (he set the school record in the 55-meter hurdles), but Big East rival Rutgers couldn’t lock him up. In his redshirt freshman season, he played in all 13 games, coming on to start four of the last five games of the regular season (20 tackles, four pass break-ups). He started all 13 games of UConn’s co-Big East championship 2010 season (63 tackles, two interceptions, nine pass break-ups) that unfortunately ended with the BCS bowl loss to the Sooners. The team didn’t make it to a bowl at all in 2011, though Gratz played well enough as a 12-game starter (53 tackles, 4.5 for loss, three interceptions, four pass breakups) to garner second-team All-Big East honors from league coaches. As a senior, Gratz registered 53 tackles, 11 pass breakups, and three interceptions, one of which he returned for a touchdown. He was named second-team All-Big East for the second consecutive year.

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS Combines NFL height and overall strength. Stays low in his stance and when opening up in bail coverage. Good closing ability, quick to attack short passes to knock them away or make the tough tackle. Aggressive hitter, can put his helmet on the ball or cut down ballcarriers equally well near the line or in space. Used as a blitzer regularly and is fast to close off cutback lanes on run plays when uncovered. Quick hands and feet to consistently beat receiver blocks. Capable of making the interception with his hands or body on poor throws, fair ball skills to grab low or high passes.

    WEAKNESSES Aggressiveness can be used against him, keeps his eyes in the backfield a long time, allowing his man to get deep and he lacks pure recovery speed to catch up. Struggles to track the football. Drops his head and goes down to the ground too early on some tackle attempts. Backpedal can be slow and choppy. Looks to be stiff in the hips.

    BOTTOM LINE Gratz first stepped into the limelight with a 46-yard interception return for a touchdown against Oklahoma quarterback Landry Jones in the team’s 48-20 loss to the Sooners in the 2011 Orange Bowl. He followed that up with two consecutive second-team All-Big East seasons, using his NFL-quality size, strength, and agility to handle receivers on the outside. As there are some questions about his long speed and hips, a potential move to safety could be in his future. However, Gratz will still likely find himself selected in the middle to late rounds.

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    We’re over a quarter way through the season and the offense is still one of if not the worst in the league.

    I think that that’s deceptive.

    I think that the SF game wasn’t just a bad game, it was a wake-up call. They changed the defense in response to that game, and the players had a players only meeting.

    So I think for argument’s sake you can discount the numbers from that game and see what you have AFTER that game.

    And if you do do that, they are better in almost every category. They don’t rank at the bottom of the league. Later I will do a lot of the numbers. The difference is very clear.

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    I agree. If Quinn and Brockers play, the Rams win.

    If not…is it a loss? Or just iffy?

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    Need to stop with the injury excuse. The Pats won without Tom Brady, even though it was it was not injury but suspension. Still with two backups, they went 3-1. Heck, Fisher blamed the fans for the failed faked punt

    Be reasonable. Rams won without Trent Green because they had a young veteran back-up.

    That is not the same as wiping out 3/4ths of an entire DL…a DL unit that is key to the Rams success.

    Having a decent back-up qb v. 3 injured starting defensive linemen?

    Think. Wrecking an entire key unit is bad for a football team. Saying that is not “making excuses.” It’s acknowledging reality.

    In fact you want evidence of that? In 2000 the Rams superbowl DL WAS wiped out. The offense was fine, but, could they sustain the same kind of season?

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    Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora
    Good news for Rams – Trumaine Johnson avoided injury according to team source. Suffered a minor sprain

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    I would like to hear something official on this but I assume he doesn’t play in the Detroit game.

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    Well

    Hey. Thanks for jinxing the game. I look forward to hearing about your experience.

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    Five Takeaways: Rams 30-19 Loss to Bills

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Five-Takeaways-Rams-30-19-Loss-to-Bills/8fb7af0c-a875-4a16-944c-d44dcf92e173

    With their 30-19 loss to the Bills on Sunday, the Rams’ record is now 3-2 on the 2016 season. There were many elements that added up to Los Angeles’ first home loss of the year, but there were some positive factors in the matchup as well. Let’s take a deeper look at both in this week’s five takeaways.

    1) Turnovers in critical situations

    In Los Angeles’ three 2016 wins, the club been either even or positive in the turnover margin. In Sunday’s contest against Buffalo, the Rams finished -3.

    Running back Todd Gurley had two fumbles, one of which was recovered by the Bills’ defense. And quarterback Case Keenum threw two interceptions, one of which was returned for a touchdown.

    In all, the Bills scored 13 points off the Rams’ turnovers.

    “It took points off the board [with] the first fumble and then we allowed them to put points on the board,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “In close ball games, those are going to be the difference makers there, so it’s disappointing.”

    Keenum called the throw he made on the pick six “a bad decision,” and acknowledged that the Rams offense has to do better from a turnover standpoint going forward.

    “There is a small margin of error,” Keenum said. “[It’s] not something we dwell on but that’s why … we want to be perfect every snap, because you never know what snap is going to be crucial point of the game.”

    2) Buffalo shows strength in the run game

    Since changing their offensive coordinator after Week 2, the Bills have been running the ball particularly well. That was especially true in Sunday’s game, as Buffalo racked up 193 yards on just 27 carries — good for a 7.1 yard average.

    Running back LeSean McCoy led the charge with 150 yards on 18 attempts, including a 53-yard run that brought the Bills inside the Rams’ five-yard line.

    “He just made plays,” defensive tackle Aaron Donald said. “We just didn’t bottle him up, we didn’t get to him, we didn’t hit him enough and it showed.”

    “It was especially on us, we just didn’t get in our gaps,” middle linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “We just kind of made up some stuff and they took advantage of our miscues. I thought we did a good job when we did get around him, we were able to stop him a little bit. He’s one of the better backs in the league, if you make a mistake, he can definitely find a hole.”

    Injuries likely contributed to the Rams’ difficulties against the run, as three of the club’s starters on the defensive line were inactive due to injury. Defensive end Robert Quinn (shoulder), defensive tackle Michael Brockers (hip), and defensive end William Hayes (ankle) were all questionable heading into Sunday’s contest.

    “We don’t make excuses, but three of our starting four defensive linemen were watching the game today,” Fisher said. “What those guys do is they pressure the quarterback and Rob’s always making a chase play from behind, and we just didn’t get that today. Still not acceptable run defense, but they’ve been doing this for the last couple of weeks against a number of teams.”

    Fisher said all three were willing to play, but the head coach held them out in order to be better equipped going forward.

    “They’re all willing, but we’re looking at the long haul right now and they wouldn’t have been productive,” Fisher said. “They wouldn’t have been able to protect themselves.”

    3) Bills ready for trickery

    Early in the week, Fisher complimented the Bills for the way they clearly put a high priority on special teams. In many ways, it’s reflective of the way Los Angeles handles its own special teams unit.

    Perhaps that was a factor in the fourth quarter when Fisher elected to try a fake punt on 4th-and-5 from the Rams’ 23-yard line, and the play ended up a few yards short of the first-down marker. Wide receiver Bradley Marquez was in formation as the up man in front of punter Johnny Hekker, received a direct snap, and darted to his right. But Buffalo, apparently ready for the fake, was able to tackle Marquez after just a two-yard gain.

    “I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t think it was going to work. That’s how those things are. We practiced it all week, we had the look, and it didn’t work,” Fisher said. “They executed it in practice, but they didn’t execute it there. I thought if that thing works it’s good stuff — really good stuff — but it didn’t. They don’t always work, but that type of approach in special teams has taken us a long ways.”

    4) Red-zone efficiency

    Los Angeles had its best game in terms of moving the ball, amassing 345 total yards and 23 first downs. The club’s offense also led in time of possession, 35:34 to 24:26.

    But once the Rams entered the red zone, they had a hard time getting into the end zone. Of their four red-zone opportunities, L.A. scored only one touchdown.

    “We’ve got to score in that red zone,” wide receiver Tavon Austin said. “We keep getting down there, but not scoring in the red zone. Three points is good, but three points is not going to win too many big games, and that’s what it showed today.”

    Austin was among one of the more productive offensive players for the Rams on Sunday, making seven receptions for 59 yards and taking three carries for 26 yards. Wideout Kenny Britt continued his strong start to the season by making five receptions for 75 yards. And Gurley had 108 yards from scrimmage and a rushing touchdown in the contest.

    “You saw some improvement out of the offense against a good defensive unit,” Fisher said. “We got the ball in our playmakers’ hands, and it seemed like either Todd, or Kenny, or Tavon or somebody was making plays offensively. We just didn’t get in the end zone.”

    Finishing drives will likely be a point of emphasis going into next week’s game against Detroit.

    5) Heading on the road

    The Rams have spent three of their first five weeks of the season on the road, and they are now getting ready to head out on another tough two-game stretch. First, the team will travel across the country to take on Detroit for Week 6. And after that game, the Rams will hop on a trans-atlantic flight to London where they’ll spend the week preparing to take on the Giants at Twickenham Stadium.

    If there’s ever a week for the 24-hour rule, it’s this one — especially since the Rams are still well positioned with a 3-2 record.

    “I know there’s a lot of teams that would like to be 3-2, but we still have work to do,” Fisher said. “We have quite a challenge on our hands over the next couple of weeks, and the players know that. We’re going to get them back and have a great week of practice and then go on the road for a couple of weeks.”

    “You have to move on and have a short memory in this league because we’ve got a lot of football left ahead of us and we are in a good spot. There are a lot of teams that would love to be where we are,” Keenum said. “So, we are going to keep fighting and we are going to take it a week at a time. And we’ve got another great opponent on the road this week, then going even further on the road for a home game. Never done that before — so not looking to that but we’ve got tests ahead of us.”

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    What we learned from Rams’ 30-19 loss to the Buffalo Bills

    Gary Klein, Los Angeles Times

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-what-we-learned-20161009-snap-story.html

    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has said the Rams don’t have backups. OK, but there is still a starting lineup. And it usually includes the most productive players. Without the injured Quinn, Hayes and Brockers, Buffalo running back LeSean McCoy ran for 150 yards and Tyrod Taylor extended plays and passed for two touchdowns. Those called upon to play in place of the injured trio gave their best effort. But there is a difference when they are not available. And it showed.

    Todd Gurley showed signs of coming on

    Wait, what? Gurley fumbled twice, and the Bills turned one of his miscues into a touchdown. Gurley acknowledged the mistakes were inexcusable. But Gurley also showed progress. He rushed for 72 yards in 23 carries and scored the Rams’ only touchdown. He broke free for a 16-yard gain and attempted what has thus been a rare cutback. He also caught three passes for 36 yards.

    Greg Zuerlein likes to kick in the Coliseum

    Zuerlein kicked three field goals in the home opener against the Seattle Seahawks, providing the Rams with all of their points in a 9-3 victory. On Sunday, he converted from 37, 32, 54 and 22 yards. After making only 20 of 30 field-goal attempts last season, the Rams were concerned about Zuerlein’s dependability. Zuerlein has made all nine field-goal attempts and all seven extra points.

    Michael Thomas is contributing on special teams

    Thomas, a receiver drafted in the sixth round, got the opportunity to return three kickoffs because Benny Cunningham was inactive because of a hamstring injury. Thomas averaged 20.7 yards per return. Thomas has been at his best on coverage teams.

    Case Keenum must avoid pick sixes

    Yes, that’s obvious. But it bears a mention because Keenum has had two intercepted passes returned for touchdowns in the last three games. Keenum’s miscue at Tampa Bay did not keep the Rams from winning. But Nickell Robey-Coleman’s pick six on Sunday broke a halftime tie and set the Bills on their way to victory. Keenum completed 21 of 31 passes for 271 yards, with two interceptions, against the Bills. He has passed for four touchdowns, with five interceptions.

    Tavon Austin can line up anywhere

    Offensive coordinator and play-caller Rob Boras seemed intent on making sure that Keenum and Austin began connecting. Austin caught a season-high seven passes. He also rushed for 26 yards in three carries. Austin ran from the I-formation and also on a fly-sweep.

    Penalties kill drives, and they are especially costly in the red zone

    The Rams’ first drive was moving along just fine until guard Rodger Saffold was flagged for a false start on third and eight at the 14. After the penalty, a pass fell incomplete and the Rams settled for a field goal. Saffold was called for holding on first and goal at the eight, but the Bills declined the penalty because the Rams had lost five yards on the play. The Rams eventually settled for a field goal.

    Trick plays that work in practice don’t always work in games

    The Rams tried a fake punt on fourth and five with less than four minutes left, but the Bills stopped receiver Bradley Marquez short of the first down. Coach Jeff Fisher stuck by the decision, saying that kind of approach on special teams “has taken us a long ways.” That’s true. The Rams have pulled off some dynamic special teams plays under Fisher during his four-plus seasons. And remember, this is the coach who called for what became known as the Music City Miracle play that helped the Tennessee Titans defeat the Bills in a playoff game in 2000.

    But Sunday’s decision did not work out.

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    Bonsignore: Here are the areas where the Rams fell short against the Bills

    By VINCENT BONSIGNORE / STAFF COLUMNIST

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-731681-game-bills.html

    With a chance to move to 4-1, strengthen their hold on first place in the NFC West and hit the road for games in Detroit and against the Giants in London swirling in positive vibes, the Rams shot themselves in the foot Sunday in a 30-19 loss to the Buffalo Bills.

    In the process, it exposed a couple predictable albeit frustrating truths.

    • The Rams’ margin of error is nil. They don’t necessarily need a perfect performance to win, but close to it.

    • And they certainly aren’t equipped to deal with a slew of injuries, critical turnovers and curious coaching decisions. All of which they dealt with Sunday.

    Here are some observations:

    FISHER GOT A LITTLE TOO CUTE

    It was bad enough Rams coach Jeff Fisher opted against trying to tie the game with his team facing fourth-and-goal at the Bills’ 4-yard-line with just under six minutes to play. But trailing 23-16 he opted for the sure three points to make it a one-score game.

    In retrospect, why not go for it and try to knot the score? Worst-case scenario you’ve pinned the Bills inside their 5 with plenty of time to get the ball back.

    That decision was bad enough.

    But then to call a fake punt at the Rams’ 23-yard-line down four points with just under four minutes left, with all three timeouts and the two-minute warning available to stop the clock, was just egregious.

    The botched call cost the Rams dearly. The Bills easily snuffed it out, setting themselves up 24 yards from the end zone, and then quickly delivered the knockout punch to put the Rams away.

    Not smart. At all.

    “I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t think it was going to work,” Fisher said. “That’s how those things are. We practiced it all week, we had the look, and it didn’t work. I’ll take that. They executed it in practice, but they didn’t execute it there. I thought if that thing works it’s good stuff, really good stuff – but it didn’t. They don’t always work, but that type of approach in special teams has taken us a long ways.”

    Still a bad call.

    KEENUM HAD A BAD DAY

    No one is expecting Case Keenum to single-handedly win games for the Rams. He simply isn’t equipped to take games over in that manner.

    But his job is to steer the Rams clear of negative consequences – in other words, don’t lose the game – and on Sunday he didn’t do that.

    Keenum threw two interceptions – against zero touchdowns – and the second was an absolute back-breaker as it went for a touchdown that ultimately won the game for the Bills.

    The Rams aren’t nearly talented enough to overcome those types of mistakes.

    “I have to watch the film and I have to see what exactly happened. But, I can’t do that, I can’t do that – especially in this league, across the board there’s guys who will make that play,” Keenum said. “I can’t put my team in that situation, obviously. But, the game came down to one or two plays and that was one play that I want back.”

    STILL LITTLE FROM GURLEY

    Todd Gurley’s 72 yards on 23 carries represented a statistical improvement based on how much he’s struggled to start the season. But the Rams need more from their star running back.

    With Keenum as limited as he is – and opposing defenses showing little respect in him to beat them – it’s on Gurley and his offensive line and coaches to figure out a way to get him untracked.

    Gurley felt the running game was better Sunday.

    “I felt like we did a pretty good job.” he said. “I felt like we did pretty good overall as an offense. We just got to not turn the ball over.”

    Maybe. But as the Bills showed by getting 150 yards from LeSean McCoy, things sure come easier when a stout run game gets established.

    RAMS SHOULD NOT SATISFIED

    The following quote from Fisher is a bit revealing. Here is what he had to say about the Bills and his Rams:

    “That’s a good football team. They’re on a roll, but we have every reason to be OK with where we are right now. I know there’s a lot of teams that would like to be 3-2.”

    While it’s definitely OK to publicly support your team – that’s what a coach does – it sure seems over the top for Fisher to make reference to being OK with being one game over .500 when his teams over the last four years have epitomized average to mediocre football.

    The Rams have not fielded a team over .500 in Fisher’s four years at the helm. And everyone is waiting for them – him – to prove they can make that improvement from 7-9 and 8-8 to 9-7 and 10-6.

    So to say they have every reason to be OK where they are right now seems a bit dubious. And maybe even a little bit telling.

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    Case Keenum makes key mistakes, prompts more Jared Goff questions

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1193836

    LOS ANGELES — Resume the clamoring for Jared Goff in 3 … 2 … 1 …

    Case Keenum didn’t necessarily play poorly — OK, he didn’t play dreadfully — but the Los Angeles Rams quarterback made a costly mistake late and missed on what could’ve been a big play early in a 30-19 loss to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. That’s usually enough to prompt incessant questions about when Goff, the No. 1 overall pick, will be given a shot as the starting quarterback.

    Keenum completed 21 of 31 passes, but two of his incompletions loomed large. One came early in the second quarter when facing third-and-1 from the Rams’ 30-yard line. Brian Quick had two steps on his defender down the field, but Keenum badly overthrew him on a deep ball. Had he hit him in stride, it could’ve gone for Quick’s fourth touchdown in three games.

    “It hurt,” Keenum said. “It hurt a lot. But you’ve got to move on. Obviously, those are plays that you learn from. Seeing him make those plays, I’ve got to give him a chance. It was a tough one.”

    Case Keenum missed on a couple of throws that cost the Rams. Jeff Gross/Getty Images
    A much tougher incompletion came with four minutes left in the third quarter and the score tied at 16. Facing second-and-14 from the Rams’ 31-yard line, Keenum tried to hit rookie Pharoh Cooper, who was making his debut after missing the first four games with a shoulder injury, to the right side about 10 yards out. But Keenum’s throw didn’t have nearly enough zip. Bills corner Nickell Robey-Coleman, a USC alum, jumped the route, intercepted the pass and went untouched for what became the winning score.

    “I can’t do that,” Keenum said. “I can’t do that, especially in this league. Across the board, there’s guys who will make that play. I can’t put my team in that situation, obviously. The game came down to one or two plays, and that was one play that I want back.”

    Keenum threw another interception — also to Robey-Coleman — in the final minutes, but that was a desperation heave while backed up in his own territory and facing fourth-and-18. The game had practically been decided by then.

    It was decided by a shorthanded defense that allowed 192 yards on the ground, and it was decided by an offense that marched into enemy territory on seven of its first nine possessions but managed only one touchdown, settled for four field goals and suffered through Todd Gurley’s first fumble. Gurley gained 108 yards from scrimmage, Tavon Austin made a season-high seven catches, and Kenny Britt gained 75 yards through the air, but the Rams’ offense did not do enough on a day when it needed to carry the load.

    Those things usually fall on Keenum, who has a shorter leash — or perceived leash, at least — than anybody in the NFL.

    “We just got to punch it in,” said Keenum, who entered with the NFL’s second-worst Total QBR. “We hurt ourselves in the red zone again.

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    Here are the areas where the Rams fell short against the Bills

    VINCENT BONSIGNORE

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-731681-game-bills.html

    With a chance to move to 4-1, strengthen their hold on first place in the NFC West and hit the road for games in Detroit and against the Giants in London swirling in positive vibes, the Rams shot themselves in the foot Sunday in a 30-19 loss to the Buffalo Bills.

    In the process, it exposed a couple predictable albeit frustrating truths.

    • The Rams’ margin of error is nil. They don’t necessarily need a perfect performance to win, but close to it.

    • And they certainly aren’t equipped to deal with a slew of injuries, critical turnovers and curious coaching decisions. All of which they dealt with Sunday.

    Here are some observations:

    FISHER GOT A LITTLE TOO CUTE

    It was bad enough Rams coach Jeff Fisher opted against trying to tie the game with his team facing fourth-and-goal at the Bills’ 4-yard-line with just under six minutes to play. But trailing 23-16 he opted for the sure three points to make it a one-score game.

    In retrospect, why not go for it and try to knot the score? Worst-case scenario you’ve pinned the Bills inside their 5 with plenty of time to get the ball back.

    That decision was bad enough.

    But then to call a fake punt at the Rams’ 23-yard-line down four points with just under four minutes left, with all three timeouts and the two-minute warning available to stop the clock, was just egregious.

    The botched call cost the Rams dearly. The Bills easily snuffed it out, setting themselves up 24 yards from the end zone, and then quickly delivered the knockout punch to put the Rams away.

    Not smart. At all.

    “I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t think it was going to work,” Fisher said. “That’s how those things are. We practiced it all week, we had the look, and it didn’t work. I’ll take that. They executed it in practice, but they didn’t execute it there. I thought if that thing works it’s good stuff, really good stuff – but it didn’t. They don’t always work, but that type of approach in special teams has taken us a long ways.”

    Still a bad call.

    KEENUM HAD A BAD DAY

    No one is expecting Case Keenum to single-handedly win games for the Rams. He simply isn’t equipped to take games over in that manner.

    But his job is to steer the Rams clear of negative consequences – in other words, don’t lose the game – and on Sunday he didn’t do that.

    Keenum threw two interceptions – against zero touchdowns – and the second was an absolute back-breaker as it went for a touchdown that ultimately won the game for the Bills.

    The Rams aren’t nearly talented enough to overcome those types of mistakes.

    “I have to watch the film and I have to see what exactly happened. But, I can’t do that, I can’t do that – especially in this league, across the board there’s guys who will make that play,” Keenum said. “I can’t put my team in that situation, obviously. But, the game came down to one or two plays and that was one play that I want back.”

    STILL LITTLE FROM GURLEY

    Todd Gurley’s 72 yards on 23 carries represented a statistical improvement based on how much he’s struggled to start the season. But the Rams need more from their star running back.

    With Keenum as limited as he is – and opposing defenses showing little respect in him to beat them – it’s on Gurley and his offensive line and coaches to figure out a way to get him untracked.

    Gurley felt the running game was better Sunday.

    “I felt like we did a pretty good job.” he said. “I felt like we did pretty good overall as an offense. We just got to not turn the ball over.”

    Maybe. But as the Bills showed by getting 150 yards from LeSean McCoy, things sure come easier when a stout run game gets established.

    RAMS SHOULD NOT SATISFIED

    The following quote from Fisher is a bit revealing. Here is what he had to say about the Bills and his Rams:

    “That’s a good football team. They’re on a roll, but we have every reason to be OK with where we are right now. I know there’s a lot of teams that would like to be 3-2.”

    While it’s definitely OK to publicly support your team – that’s what a coach does – it sure seems over the top for Fisher to make reference to being OK with being one game over .500 when his teams over the last four years have epitomized average to mediocre football.

    The Rams have not fielded a team over .500 in Fisher’s four years at the helm. And everyone is waiting for them – him – to prove they can make that improvement from 7-9 and 8-8 to 9-7 and 10-6.

    So to say they have every reason to be OK where they are right now seems a bit dubious. And maybe even a little bit telling.

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    Jeff Fisher cost Rams a chance to win, but he won’t admit it

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    http://www.ramsondemand.com/threads/bonsignore-jeff-fisher-cost-rams-a-chance-to-win-but-he-wont-admit-it.46854/

    Maybe in some alternate universe where Bradley Marquez is the equivalent of a prime-time Reggie Bush and the Rams didn’t have three timeouts remaining and their defense wasn’t playing its guts out and there were two minutes left to play, not four, maybe then Jeff Fisher would have been right to dial up a fake punt from his own 23-yard line.

    Eh, who the hell are we kidding.

    No, absolutely not.

    No way, no how.

    It wouldn’t have been a prudent call under those circumstances and it certainly wasn’t judicious in the situation the Rams faced on Sunday with a chance to steal a win over the Buffalo Bills and take another decisive step forward in the standings.

    On a blazing hot Sunday afternoon in which the Rams left far too many makable plays on the Coliseum turf Sunday than they care to remember, the one they’ll be kicking themselves over most had less to do with execution or talent than flawed thinking.

    Todd Gurley put a ball on the turf that resulted in a Bills touchdown in the second quarter.

    Case Keenum floated a lazy sideline pass into the waiting arms of Bills cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman for a devastating pick-6 that put Buffalo up by a touchdown in the third.

    And the Rams continued to shoot themselves in the foot with sloppy penalties at the most inopportune times.

    All of which contributed to a 30-19 loss that sent the Rams stumbling into a two-week road odyssey to Detroit and London with negative momentum rather than positive.

    But nothing was as egregious as the fake punt Fisher ordered with 3:47 left in the game, the Bills leading 23-19, and the Rams facing a fourth-and-5 from their own 23-yard line.

    Rather then give his team one more chance to get the ball back and drive the field for a game-winning score, Fisher gifted the Bills the ball at the 24-yard-line. From there, they easily delivered a final dagger when Marquise Goodwin reeled in a 6-yard touchdown pass from Tyrod Taylor to put the game out of reach.

    Then Fisher clumsily pointed the finger everywhere else — including the Coliseum crowd of all things — rather than admitting he might have needlessly rolled the dice when being careful would have been the proper call.

    Culminating with one final reach by going all in on what might have been or should have been had guys just done their job.

    “If that thing works, it’s really good stuff,” Fisher said.

    But it didn’t.

    And everything Fisher said to justify or rationalize it was simply chatter to shift attention from the real issue.

    He blew the call.

    It didn’t cost them the game. But it denied them one final chance to win it.

    And with every victory so precious to the Rams right now while playing with limited offensive weapons that leave very little margin for error, that’s nearly as bad as losing it.

    Winning is tough enough as it is, let alone your head coach stepping in to sabotage things.

    With the right decision staring him right in his face, Fisher fumbled it all away.

    Rather than punt the ball and then lean on the strength of his team to get it right back with sufficient time to mount a comeback. Fisher put it in the hands of Marquez on a direct snap fake punt that Buffalo easily snuffed out.

    Then Fisher did the most curious thing: He simultaneously threw his players under the bus while also blaming the crowd at the Coliseum for alerting Bills cornerback Ronald Darby the fake was on.

    While never once admitting that, well you know, the whole part about calling a fake punt inside his own 25 in a one-score game with all his timeouts left — and the two minute warning — was brutally ill-advised.

    Instead, Fisher put it squarely on the shoulders of his players by insisting the defensive look fit the call, and had the Rams merely carried out orders everything would have worked out beautifully.

    “They executed it in practice,” Fisher said, sternly. “They didn’t execute it there.”

    Marquez manned up and took his share of responsibility — while giving credit to the Bills — but seemed dubious that the Bills presented the ideal defensive scheme.

    “We didn’t get the look that maybe we were anticipating,” he said. “But it was still a look we thought we could be successful with.”

    Unfortunately the Bills didn’t bite.

    And that prompted Fisher to half-jokingly — we think — put the screws on Rams fans for tipping off Darby the fake was on.

    In actuality, Darby made a brilliant read by breaking off his blocking assignment to roll back and nail Marquez 2 yards shy of the first down.

    But apparently an assist goes to the crowd. At least according to Fisher.

    “He stopped coverage when he heard the crowd roar,” Fisher said. “So he came back and made the play.”

    That’s nonsense, of course.

    And even Marquez seemed a bit taken aback by his coach’s summation.

    “As far as the crowd, I can’t speak to that,” said Marquez, who rightfully tipped his cap to Darby.

    “He sniffed it out and was able to set the edge.” Marquez said.

    At least someone was honorable enough to call it right.

    Fisher certainly didn’t.

    It was the wrong call at the absolutely wrong time.

    It didn’t cost them the win. But it likely denied them one last legitimate shot to win it.

    And that’s just as bad.

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    …is there a word for… when things get so surreal that surrealizm gets ‘normalized’ ?

    Yeah I know. Surreal isn’t it.

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    Rampage2K

    My game day report…..Wow!!! What a day….. Too bad the Rams loss ruined it a bit.

    Got there early about 8:30 and fired up the grill and the breakfast beer..it was a picture perfect day as we enjoyed the pregame festivities…the Helpful Honda crew were walking around handing out sunscreen and what not, but then I noticed one of them talking to my friend Rudy and handing him some sort of ticket looking things, so I wisely and quickly went over to investigate and see Rudy with this look like he just won the lotto as he shows me a couple field passes….so I kindly tell the Honda guy how awesome he is and how much I love Honda’s ( I really do, big Honda/NSX guy) and ask/ beg him if he has a couple more??? What do you know..boom!!! Got the last two!!! So four of us lucky @#$%& got to go down to the field and rub elbows with the celebs and other dignitaries… Needless to say that shortened up our tailgate time as we wanted to head in early…so we headed down to the field about 11:45 and made our way over to the Rams sideline…met Steve Wychce on the way over then we met MJD… Made my way over to get some pics with the cheerleaders(of course) then headed over to the sideline to watch the warm ups…man those guys are much bigger up close and in real life..Marc Barron is a beast. I noticed Stan making his way over to the sideline as he walked towards the on field suites and got to shake his hand and tell him how stoked I was to have them back.. That would have been cool enough for me, but there was more…met and took pics with Vince Ferragamo, Mike Singletary, Coach McGiniss, Brandon Fisher, Les Snead, Kevin Demoff, Kara Henderson, Chief of police Charlie Beck, Kimberly Keenum, coach Fassel and some cheerleaders and some others I’m forgetting I’m sure……too bad the day didn’t end then, it was amazing…it was Rams fan heaven!!!

    All the pics are in my phone and will post them soon.

    Big thanks to the Helpful Honda People!!!!

    Of course after that, anything but a win was gonna be a let down…sigh.

    Another hot hot day in the stands as it was in the low 90’s at kickoff… The fans were great, not too many Bills fans, I was expecting more form a New York area based team…
    Game started out good with the offense once again moving the ball well, but then stalls and we end up with three instead of seven. Then the defense took the field minus 3/4 of our starting d-line and right away you could tell it was gonna be a long day as Shaddy went right through it…although I love the guy and he is by far our best CB, Tru could have changed this entire game on the Bills first drive if he would have been looking for the ball instead of looking to kill the WR…easy pick six was there as the ball was tipped, but instead he blew up the WR instead of the coliseum…would have been 10-0 Rams and the place would have gone nuts….instead a few plays later it was 7-3 Bills ugggh 14 point swing not to mention the momentum.

    Live by turn overs die by them… The Rams just didn’t have enough to over come the 2-0 turnover margin.

    Turning point in the game was the roughing the kicker penalty… Game changed right then and there, although the Rams did end up forcing another punt it was shortly after that where Case threw that horrible pick six…uughhh. So frustrating. Thought it should have been a five yard penalty, but they gave him the 15 and that was it.

    Gonna watch the game on dvr to see what I missed, but Gurley has been a disappointment to say the least… From my view it looked like he had some chances to bounce one or a cut back, but he doesn’t even try that…it’s just so straight forward with him right now. Boras did try some different looks but it wasn’t enough to get him going. He just isn’t doing the little things that made him great in those big games last year… Sadly, it’s been a lot longer then just the last five games since he’s had a good game running the ball… Keep hearing “he’s getting close” but just hasn’t happened yet… Hoping the light goes on soon and he and the Rams get back to him getting 120 rushing yards a game.

    This team needs to change it up and become a pass first team until it softens up the defense…having better success threw the air right now even with Case Keenum. If Goff is ready it’s time to put him in.

    I know Fish is getting killed for the fake punt, but dammit, that play should have worked…there was a huge hole with blockers right in front of him but he panicked and tried going outside with it… Hindsight is always 20/20 but there is no telling our hobbling defense was gonna get that ball back anyway… Although I thought a better time to take a risk was on the series before where we kicked the FG instead of going for the tie.

    What can you do? Can’t win them all I guess, but it sure would be nice…. We are still in good shape at 3-2 and can win these games in front of us….hope to god we get healthy this week though…losing the d-line is a huge blow to any team, especially this defense and missing Tru will be even uglier….pray for health!!!

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    I’m going on the rumor of getting a 3rd and 4th round comp picks.

    They traded the 3rd round comp pick as part of the deal with the Titans to get Goff.

    I’m looking at the rumored 3rd round comp pick we get for Janoris. I know the deal, it is our regular 3rd round pick. No comp pick.

    Jack, I promise you, the Rams made sure it was the comp pick. Or to be more exact, if the Rams are awarded a 3rd round comp pick, that is what the Titans get.

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    from Rams-Titans trade has a condition that applies to next year’s third-round pick

    Mike Florio

    Rams-Titans trade has a condition that applies to next year’s third-round pick

    The third-round pick that the Rams will send to the Titans has a condition, according to multiple league sources. If the Rams get a compensatory pick in the third round of the 2017 draft, the third-round pick sent to Tennessee will be the compensatory selection, not the standard third-round pick assigned to St. Louis.

    If the Rams don’t get a third-round compensatory pick, the Titans get the Rams’ regular third-round pick, and a seventh-round pick will be shipped from the Titans back to L.A.

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    from Peter King

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/19/titans-rams-draft-trade-inside

    Now there was one last thing the Rams wanted, something Snead called “the only real sort of contentious thing that came up.” Snead broached this idea with [Titans GM] Robinson: If the Rams got a compensatory 2017 third-round pick for losing Janoris Jenkins in free agency, they’d trade the lower pick, the compensatory third-rounder, to Tennessee next year. If they didn’t get a compensatory third-round pick and had to send a higher pick to Tennessee, the Titans should give back a seventh-round pick.

    “We haggled a few minutes,” Robinson said. “They wanted a little kickback.” Robinson balked at first; he already had the third-rounder next year, essentially. But he understood the Rams’ position too: the difference between a high third-round pick and a compensatory third-round pick could be 30 slots. He thought it was a fair ask. So Robinson agreed to include the conditional seventh-round pick in 2017, if the Rams sent their own choice to Tennessee next year instead of a compensatory.

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    Peter King comment

    from: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/10/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-returns-suspension-nfl-week-5

    Anthony Lynn, offensive coordinator, Buffalo. Since Rex Ryan fired Greg Roman as coordinator and appointed long-time aide Lynn to run the offense, Buffalo’s running game has become one of the league’s most feared. The Bills ran for just 75.5 yards a game under Roman in 2016; that number has skyrocketed to 178.3 per game under Lynn—and Lynn has reinforced the fact that Buffalo will be a strong running team first and second, then a throwing team third. Excellent job so far by the understated Lynn, who has the respect of his players.

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    I’m going on the rumor of getting a 3rd and 4th round comp picks.

    They traded the 3rd round comp pick as part of the deal with the Titans to get Goff.

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    LMU93

    here’s what I saw Sunday. I saw a depleted Rams defense but one that after getting gashed badly the first couple series really settled down and played well overall (4/12 on 3rd downs, 305 yards allowed). The running game was the best it’s been so far this year. Not great but best it’s been. Signs of life. Gurley had 13 carries for 71 yards through three quarters. Of course it would be nice if he had more than 13 attempts through three quarters, but he was averaging 5.5 YPC. Then he got bottled up for 1 yard on 6 carries in the 4th, including a 5 yard loss.

    But the defense didn’t generate any turnovers while the offense gave the ball away three times. Formula for a loss.

    Buffalo is not a bad team. They’re not a top 10 team either. To me they’re right in the range of the Rams- one of those mid-tier teams that can win or lose almost any game. It was a 23-19 game with minutes to play. And the Rams couldn’t pull it out where they had each of the past three weeks.

    They lost to a decent team whose strength was running the ball on a day when 3/4 of their starting DL was out. Not that they’d have shut down McCoy but maybe they give up only 120 vs. 193 with Brockers and Quinn. Sims was also a pass rushing liability and big downgrade at RDE. Zero pressures in 22 pass rushes. Sims really should be limited to running downs if possible with Longacre spelling Quinn more.

    On Keenum. I actually thought until the pick 6 he had played pretty well again. He was 14/18 for 180 yards at that point. A QB rating over 100. He was playing similar to what he had the previous 3 weeks. That was a really bad INT of course. And they can’t have more. Two in the past three games is enough…

    Kenny Britt is playing well. His catch percentage has been very good- 72% (23 of 32). Right now he’s on pace for 74 catches and 1,139 yards. I think their best receiving options right now (in order) are Britt, Kendricks, Quick and Gurley. If Britt continues playing well they’ll have an interesting decision to make after the season.

    On defense the Bills doubled Donald and the rest of the DL couldn’t get it done. I think it was a tall task to be down 3 of your starting 4 DL all at once and giving significant reps to their 9th and 10th DL. They did start off shaky allowing all those yards the first two possessions but then pretty much tightened up from there. Also credit Taylor for escaping several more possible sacks.

    By the way Zuerlein is one of four kickers that is 9/9 or better so far this year. Only Vinatieri (IND), Tucker (BAL) and Matt Bryant (ATL) are better. Nice start for Greg.

    They’re still well positioned for a possible 4-3 or even 5-2 start at the bye. I would guess that 2 of the 3 DL are back @DET but hoping Johnson’s injury isn’t bad.

    Detroit and the Giants are two very winnable games. Detroit’s run defense is bad. They’re not top-tier in really anything. Lions run defense: 31st in yards per carry and 21st in yards per game. The Rams ran the ball better vs. a good Buffalo run defense than they had all year. One of these games they will really break out and maybe it’s @DET this week. The Rams played Detroit last year. They ran for 203 yards and Donald had 3 sacks by himself. Johnson pick-sixed Stafford.

    The Giants offense is a mess.

    Assuming the Rams get 2 of the 3 DL back this week they could be 4-2 next week which considering 4 of their first 6 games are road games is pretty darn good. And NFC games vs. Detroit and NY Giants are more important to win than Buffalo.

    Simply can’t be -3 in TO ratio and hope to win.

    Both FootballOutsiders and TeamRankings.com have Buffalo rated 8th in the NFL this week. Not saying I think they’re a top 10 team. And not that the Rams shouldn’t have come up better in places. But they also didn’t lay an egg vs a bad team.

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    Are there 7 or 8 wins there?

    IMO as always.

    Color code:
    blue= yes good chance for a win
    red = a good chance to win 2 of the 3 games marked red

    Total = up to 8 possible

    @Det
    NYG
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    @NE
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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher

    (Opening remarks)

    “Alright, well that was a tough one. I think it shows, in close games against good opponents, the need for turnovers or protecting the football and we didn’t get them defensively. It took points off the board in the first fumble and then we allowed them to put points on the board. In close ball games, those are going to be the difference makers there, so it’s disappointing. That’s a good football team. They’re on a roll, but we have every reason to be okay with where we are right now. I know there’s a lot of teams that would like to be 3-2, but we still have work to do. I thought you saw flashes of some good things. You saw some improvement out of the offense against a good defensive unit. We got the ball in our playmakers’ hands, and it seemed like either Todd (Gurley), or (WR) Kenny (Britt), or (WR) Tavon (Austin) or somebody was making plays offensively, we just didn’t get in the end zone. We have quite a challenge on our hands over the next couple of weeks, and the players know that. We’re going to get them back and have a great week of practice and then go on the road for a couple of weeks.”

    (On the calling the fake punt)

    “I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t think it was going to work. That’s how those things are. We practiced it all week, we had the look, and it didn’t work. I’ll take that. They executed it in practice, but they didn’t execute it there. I thought if that thing works it’s good stuff, really good stuff – but it didn’t. They don’t always work, but that type of approach in special teams has taken us a long ways.”

    (On making the decision to call a fake punt because of defensive positioning and weather conditions)

    “Everything went into it. I like the look. I like the play. We got the look and they made the play. I think their outside guy made the play. He stopped coverage when he heard the crowd roar, so he came back and made the play.”

    (On the defensive performance compared to earlier this season)

    “Well, it’s a combination. We don’t make excuses, but three of our starting four defensive linemen were watching the game today. What those guys do is they pressure the quarterback and (DE Robert Quinn) Rob’s always making a chase play from behind, and we just didn’t get that today. Still not acceptable run defense, but they’ve been doing this for the last couple of weeks against a number of teams. He’s (LeSean McCoy) an outstanding back and they’re managing the game well with Tyrod (Taylor). That second series or first series, the ball was snapped past him and we had a second-and-25 and a third-and-18 and we allowed him to convert with his legs. At that point you’re in for a ball game with him, so they’ve done an outstanding coaching job with him.”

    (On considerations when going for it on a fourth down)

    “Yeah, there’s always that consideration. It’s a decision you need to make, but we had the ball on the eight and then we had the holding penalty. The reason for the points was I was playing to win. We had plenty of time and had three timeouts left. So take the points, get a kick off, get a drive stop on defense, go down and a touchdown wins the game for you.”

    (On the fake punt call being from the sidelines or a read on the field)

    “Well, now you’re going into competitive things. That particular play was called, and there are some checks, but we didn’t need to check out based on the look we had.”

    (On RB Todd Gurley scoring the Rams’ first touchdown since being back in Los Angeles in 1979)

    “I forgot we hadn’t scored a touchdown here, and preseason doesn’t count. Thanks for bringing it up. Yeah, it does. He’s our back of the future, so I guess it’s only appropriate that he got the ball in the end zone there. His yards were tough today. That’s an outstanding defense and his yards were tough, but he made some outstanding plays. You could see the flashes, so we’re coming there.”

    (On the pick-six off QB Case Keenum)

    “I’ve got to see it. Someone told me that there was a hold on the play and the receiver was restricted, so I don’t know I have to look at the play. He made some good decisions today. Quick decisions and good throws.”

    (On the health of CB Trumaine Johnson)

    “I don’t know. We’ll have more information for you tomorrow. From the defensive line standpoint, Rob, they couldn’t do it. Nor could (DE) Will (Hayes) or (DT Michael Brockers) ‘Brock’, he had a setback in practice. They’re all willing, but we’re looking at the long haul right now and they wouldn’t have been productive. They wouldn’t have been able to protect themselves. That’s why you have young players. That’s why we brought (DE Morgan Fox) ‘Foxy’ up. So we’ll look at the tape and see how they played.”

    (On the decisions to name certain players inactive)

    “They were weekend decisions, over the last 24-48 hours.”

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    Rams QB Case Keenum

    (On his first interception of the game)

    “Yeah, we had ‘Coop’ (WR Pharoh Cooper) on a deeper, little out route there. When I thought he crossed his face, he did a good job. When I threw it out there and the guy made a heck of a play, but it was a bad decision, I think looking back, I have to watch the film and I have to see what exactly happened. But, I can’t do that, I can’t do that— especially in this league, across the board there’s guys who will make that play. I can’t put my team in that situation, obviously. But, the game came down to one or two plays and that was one play that I want back.”

    (On the last field goal of the game)

    “I just didn’t know what (Head) Coach (Jeff Fisher) was going to do on that play. I was going to be ready if he wanted it to. This is a tough deal— we love to punch that in on first, second and third down. We had a penalty that killed us on that drive. I think it was a 15-play drive and to come up with a field goal was tough.”

    (On WR Tavon Austin and RB Todd Gurley’s performance)

    “Yeah, we did a lot of really good things today. I thought offensively, I think we had a 15-play drive, overcoming some penalties, the opening drive – we just got to punch it in, we hurt ourselves in the red zone, again. But, yeah, there were a lot of positive things from Tavon, (WR) Kenny (Britt), Todd. I think Todd had some really big plays today, just not enough.”

    (On if this week’s practice focused on getting the ball to WR Tavon Austin and RB Todd Gurley)

    “You want to put the ball in the playmakers’ hands. We want to do that every week. We had some guys make some plays down the field quick. You know, (WR) Brian Quick made a few big plays again. He even got behind on one of the third downs early, that I overthrew him, another play I want back. It’s just the difference in this league – people are too good. You can’t have missed opportunities and you can’t turn it over, you can’t give guys extra possessions and we did that. I think that was of the big things of the game.”

    (On the margin of error of the offense)

    “I wouldn’t say we focus on that, but you look at it across the league and every game has one or two plays that decide the game and obviously, turnovers are huge. Yeah, there is a small margin of error – not something we dwell on but that’s why coach and we want to be perfect, every snap because you never know what snap is going to be crucial point of the game.”

    (On making big plays in fourth quarter situations)

    “I feel like we are very equipped. We’ve had a few ‘have-to’ plays or drives. Before, I would say that Arizona was a ‘have-to.’ Obviously, we were put in a really good situation with our return but, we had a couple of ‘have-tos’ and it’s going to happen in this league and a couple of ‘must convert third downs’ and we didn’t on a few. You can point to a lot of different things, but we just didn’t do enough today.”

    (On the missed, deep pass to WR Brian Quick)

    “It hurt, it hurt a lot, but you’ve got to move on. Obviously, those are plays that you learn from. Seeing him make those plays, I’ve got to give him a chance. It was tough one.”

    (On their preparedness in the upcoming games in Detroit and London)

    “I think we did good things today, I think we are progressing. Crucial situations – you have to move on and have a short memory in this league because we’ve got a lot of football left ahead of us and we are in a good spot – there are a lot of teams that would love to be where we are. So, we are going to keep fighting and we are going to take it a week at a time and we’ve got another great opponent on the road this week, then going even further on the road for a home game, never done that before, so not looking to that but we’ve got tests ahead of us. I think, like our team in general, we are fighters and we are going to fight. We are going to claw and fight and for everything we can get.”

    ***

    Rams WR Tavon Austin

    (On why the team wasn’t able to capitalize on offensive possessions)

    “For the most part, we had a couple turnovers that kind of hurt us, but we still could’ve won the game. It’s about all of us just pulling together as one at the end. We did it before, we did it several times. This time, we didn’t come out with the win. But next week, we’ll definitely will have to practice this week hard, and try to go to Detroit and get a win.”

    (On what he needs to work on)

    “Basically, the offense. We got to score in that red zone. We keep getting down there, but not scoring in the red zone. Three points is good, but three points is not going to win too many big games, and that’s what it showed today. The receivers and the offense, we got to take a big role and step it up next week. We got to help them guys out and get in the box.”

    (On if he felt like he was open on the play in which QB Case Keenum threw an interception, and the Bills returned it for a touchdown)

    “No, that was just a scramble play. Case was just trying to make something happen. He just threw it up, and the guy was right there at the right place at the right time, that’s all.”

    (On if he was surprised the team went for it on fourth down towards the end of the game)

    “No, no, I trust Coach Fisher and whatever he wants to do. If he wanted to go for it three or four times, I’m okay with it. That’s our Coach, we love him, we believe in him, and if he wants to do it again next week, we’ll do it again.”

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    Rams RB Todd Gurley

    (On why he wasn’t able to get the running game going)

    “I felt like we did a pretty good job. I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I felt like we did pretty good overall as an offense. We just got to not turn the ball over.”

    (On scoring field goals rather than touchdowns in the red zone, and why he wasn’t able to find the end zone on red zone drives)

    “It’s just a part of the game. You get field goals, you get touchdowns, sometimes you don’t get neither.”

    (On if he felt like he moved well between the 20-yard lines)

    “Oh yeah, for sure. Like I said, it’s just all executing. Trying to get first downs, trying to get touchdowns, check-downs, and field goals. Just trying to put point on the board.”

    (On his thoughts about the failed fake punt attempt)

    “It’s all apart of the game. As an offense, we had three tries to get a first down. So, that’s on us.”

    (On if he felt like he played well enough to win the game)

    “No, not at all. I put the ball on the ground twice, they got it back once, and they scored off of it. You can’t win games off turnovers.”

    (On if he feels as if he’s improving every game)

    “Oh yeah, most definitely. They really didn’t have too many in the box. O-line did a great job for me all game. Those guys played their tails off all game. Blocking, passing, touches, I got to pick it up for them.”

    ***

    Rams LB Alec Ogletree

    (On why it was so tough to contain Bills RB LeSean McCoy)

    “It was especially on us, we just didn’t get in our gaps. We just kind of made up some stuff and they took advantage of our miscues. I thought we did a good job when we did get around him, we were able to stop him a little bit. He’s one of the better backs in the league, if you make a mistake, he can definitely find a hole.”

    (On if he felt that the defense simply didn’t play well enough to win)

    “No, we definitely didn’t play well enough to win this game. We beat ourselves on a lot of stuff, I felt like we really just lost the game ourselves.”

    (On how tough it was for the defense with three injuries along the defensive line)

    “It wasn’t tough at all, we just didn’t – not necessarily didn’t get aligned, we were just out of gaps sometimes and they were able to find a hole and hit us for a couple of big runs.”

    (On what the defense needs to work on moving forward)

    “Just being technically sound in a lot of our stuff that we’re doing. Like I said, today I felt like we beat ourselves on a lot of stuff – just not in the right gap, sometimes I might not get the call or something like that. It’s all up to us to just hone in our skills and come back next week and play technically sound football.”

    ***

    Rams DT Aaron Donald

    (On if he could sense how thin the defensive line rotation was)

    “We still had a good rotation.”

    (On what he thought of Bills RB LeSean McCoy)

    “We let him break us, we let him run all over us. Not happy about that at all. Like I said, we’ve just got to watch the film and correct it so stuff like that won’t happen again.”

    (On what it was that made McCoy so effective)

    “He just made plays. We just didn’t bottle him up, we didn’t get to him, we didn’t hit him enough and it showed.”

    (On if he feels pretty good about where the team is at 3-2 if he were to take a step back)

    “You’re not in a good mood anytime you lose. It’s a long season, we have time to bounce back, we just have a lot of things we have to correct on defense.”

    ***

    Rams DL Dominique Easley

    (On how difficult the workload was since the defensive line was shorthanded)

    “It wasn’t that much different, we just rotated, like how we always do – just take care of our rotation and play with each other.”

    (On if there was anything in particular that the Bills were doing in the run game)

    “No, we knew everything they were going to do, we just have to play.”

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    Bills knock off Rams 30-19 after fake punt misfires

    Josh Alper

    Bills knock off Rams 30-19 after fake punt misfires

    LOS ANGELES, CA – OCTOBER 09: In one of the early games on Sunday, Jets coach Todd Bowles chose to punt trailing in the fourth quarter and found himself trailing by too much to recover from by the time his team got the ball back.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher went the other way against the Bills later in the afternoon, but he joined Bowles on the losing side of Week Five all the same. Fisher called for a fake punt on fourth-and-five from his own 23-yard-line with 3:47 left to play in the game, but wide receiver Bradley Marquez was stuffed for a short gain.

    LeSean McCoy ran 24 yards to the foot of the end zone on the next play and Tyrod Taylor hit Marquise Goodwin for a six-yard touchdown a couple of snaps later to give the Bills breathing room in a 30-19 victory. The touchdown ended a frustrating half for the Bills offense, which moved well before halftime but produced nothing but punts come the second half.

    The Bills still led, though, because cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman made the biggest defensive play of the game. Robey-Coleman jumped an out route and cruised into the end zone in the stadium he called home while at USC. That broke a 16-16 tie and buoyed the Bills’ chances while their offense scuffled.

    Fisher’s aggressiveness with the fake punt wasn’t matched on the previous Rams drive. He opted to kick a field goal on fourth-and-goal from the four-yard-line and the decision appeared to work out when the defense forced another quick punt. Case Keenum, who finished 21-of-31 for 271 yards and another late Robey-Coleman interception, was incomplete to tight end Lance Kendricks on third down, however, and the Rams didn’t want to give their offense another chance to get the yards.

    Credit the Bills defense with creating that situation, generally keeping Todd Gurley under wraps on his way to 72 yards on 23 carries and carrying the team in the second half. Linebacker Lorenzo Alexander and defensive tackle Adolphus Washington both made an impact up front over the course of the afternoon for Buffalo, which has now won three straight games for the first time since 2011.

    They have the 49ers and Dolphins in the next two weeks, so that winning streak could go on for a while. McCoy ended up with 150 yards on 18 carries, although 111 came before halftime when the Bills were clicking offensively in a way they’d like to capture for a full 60 minutes in those upcoming games.

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    This time, Rams defense can’t overcome team’s offensive woes

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-731632-play-coach.html

    LOS ANGELES – While preparing to play the Rams, Buffalo coach Rex Ryan began last week talking about something being an example of “BSing the whole time.”

    No, he wasn’t referring to the Rams’ 3-1 record or the statistically quirky and completely unforeseen path they took to arrive there.

    But all those people who doubted the validity of 3-1 specifically and the Rams in general had their mistrust confirmed Sunday with the team’s 30-19 loss to the Bills.

    The Rams’ offense again struggled to score and their defense this time didn’t write its name on the game’s signature play.

    At two crucial points, Coach Jeff Fisher chose to go for it and so did quarterback Case Keenum, and both decisions left the Bills dancing with pleasure.

    Then there was an injury-depleted defensive front that permitted running back LeSean McCoy 150 yards total and an 8.3-yard average, the Rams losing despite finishing with more first downs, offensive plays, time of possession and total yards.

    “It’s basically on us,” linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “We didn’t get in our gaps. We just kinda, you know, made up some stuff.”

    Making up some stuff doesn’t typically work in the NFL, where even the cheerleaders’ routines are practiced until the Xs and Os are worn thin.

    So, after opening the season as the pleasant surprise of the league, after climbing atop a surely stunned NFC West, after winning their first home game in 22 years, the Rams crash landed at the Coliseum by losing to a clown coach.

    Ryan isn’t a clown as a coach, understand, but more a clown who’s a coach. His claim a week ago about having a “source” within the New England organization was the root of his BS comment, Ryan later admitting he made it all up.

    See, that kind of making it up is OK in the NFL because it doesn’t directly influence the game’s outcome. Making it up on the field, however, is a completely different situation.

    Then again, when three-quarters of your defensive line is out, well, this is the NFL, where they don’t make excuses, which Fisher pointed out afterward before making the excuse of missing three-quarters of his defensive line.

    “When you make a mistake in this league, they can find the holes,” Ogletree said. “We definitely didn’t play well enough to win this game. We beat ourselves with a lot of stuff, I think. We really just lost the game ourselves.”

    Fisher’s decision to fake a punt late in the fourth quarter was one that was debated Sunday by everyone but Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. And that’s only because they had too many other topics over which to argue first.

    The move was either gusty or idiotic, depending on how much or little you want the Rams to hire a new coach.

    Since the play failed, history will remember the choice as idiotic, further fueling the belief that this team can do better.

    Speaking of which, Keenum’s largely unsatisfying performance was low-lighted by a third-quarter interception former USC defensive back Nickell Robey-Coleman returned for the deciding touchdown.

    “I can’t do that, especially in this league,” Keenum said, admirably but also unnecessarily. “I can’t put my team in that situation.”

    He had his bright moments, proving elusive enough more than once to avoid the Bills’ rush and finish plays. For a guy critics consider unworthy of starting in the NFL, Keenum can at times mask his deficiencies well.

    But, when analyzing the Rams’ offense Sunday, this statistic says it better than any one person could:

    Both teams scored five times – the Bills had four touchdowns and one field goal and the Rams four field goals and one touchdown.

    “We’ve got to score in that red zone,” wide receiver Tavon Austin said. “We keep getting down there but not scoring. Three points are good, but three points aren’t going to win too many games.”

    The Rams did finally score a touchdown here, Todd Gurley finding the end zone on a 1-yard run late in the second quarter.

    It came on their 15th possession and 88th offensive play in the Coliseum this season, evidence that they could produce at home using something other than Greg Zuerlein’s leg.

    On the team’s radio broadcast, play-by-play man J.B. Long captured the touchdown by saying Gurley “plunges” into the end zone.

    Maybe it’s just me, but doesn’t it seem like the home announcer, no matter how bad the offense has been, should refrain from describing its achievements by making toilet references?

    Anyway, five weeks after the Rams officially did, the NFL showed up again in L.A., an unforgiving league spitting out a team that spent much of the day under duress and overexposed.

    “We didn’t take a step back,” Ogletree insisted. “We just lost the game.”

    True, perhaps. But, in a league where every opportunity is precious, for a team with little room to waste, those two might be the same thing.

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    Meh…about what I expected with the injuries. It was already a tough matchup.

    I don’t think that Keenum is responsible for the INT. The defender was supposed to have been picked and wasn’t then Cooper took a bad line, let the defender in front of him, and then fell. It was a designed play and the ball was in the air before the break. crap happens.

    The rest of the playing wasn’t bad, just not great.

    I expected a fake on the 5 yard line, the one called was moronic.

    Tavon Austin was destroying it on the ground at 8.7 YPC. Whatever you do Boras and Fisher, don’t hand him the ball.

    The Rams need a spark and that spark needs to be Goff. Keenum will make an excellent backup.

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    I am not unhappy with Keenum’s play. In fact, I thought that overall the offense was better this game, better on 3rd down, better on ‘time of possession’, better on running, WRs catching the ball. The 2 turnovers killed them. imo

    penalties 6-40
    time of possession 35:34.

    Late me add to that since I too am in the “light in darkness” club.

    Here are some other little things.

    * the defense stiffened up in the 2nd half, and that was with 3 DL starters missing
    * Keenun threw for 8.7 YPA, which extrapolated for the season so far would be 2nd in the league
    * Britt caught all 5 of his 6 targets…Austin was 7 of 10, Quick was 3 of 4…75%
    * that Malcolm Brown screen was pretty…he’s a player

    Yeah they lost because they handed them 13 points.

    Dare I say it? Only the Rams can beat the Rams.

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    Rams Fall to Buffalo at Home, 30-19

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Rams-Fall-to-Buffalo-at-Home-30-19/49077acd-d048-429e-830e-e1ea7124e046

    LOS ANGELES — With three starters inactive due to injury on the defensive line, the Rams could not overcome two turnovers that led to Bills touchdowns, falling to Buffalo 30-19. With the loss, the Rams are now 3-2 through five weeks of the season.

    With Buffalo winning the toss and deferring, the Rams moved the ball effectively with running back Todd Gurley and wide receiver Tavon Austin both on the ground and through the air. On 3rd-and-2 from Los Angeles’ 29-yard line, Gurley lined up split out in the slot, and caught an out oute for the first down. Then he made a few men miss to speed down the sideline for a 24-yard gain.

    Later in the possession, the Rams shifted their formation at the line of scrimmage to put Austin in the backfield. He received a carry on the play, gaining eight yards on first down.

    The drive stalled after a false start penalty, but Los Angeles was still able to score on its opening possession for the third time in four weeks.

    Los Angeles began the day with many of their regulars inactive due to injury, including starting defensive linemen Robert Quinn, Michael Brockers, and William Hayes. Those players being out appeared to have an effect on the early going of the game, as Buffalo rushed for 112 yards on just their first two possessions — both of which ended in touchdowns.

    Quarterback Tyrod Taylor converted a 3rd-and-19 into a first down with a 22-yard scramble up the middle to keep Buffalo’s first drive alive. Taylor would finish the possession with a 4-yard touchdown pass to wideout Justin Hunter.

    Following a Gurley fumble, McCoy burst through the middle for a 53-yard gain to put Buffalo on the Rams’ 5-yard line. Runnign back Mike Gillislee finished the possession on the next play, taking an option pitch from Taylor for the five-yard touchdown. With the blocked extra point, Buffalo had a 13-3 lead.

    The Rams, however, scored 10 straight points to tie the game, led by the club forcing two three-and-outs defensively. Kicker Greg Zuerlein connected on a 32-yard field goal to make it 13-6. Then L.A. got a one-yard touchdown from Gurley to cap an eight-play, 64-yard drive.

    Wide receiver Kenny Britt and wide receiver Brian Quick had receptions of 18 and 12 yards, respectively. And once Los Angeles reached the red zone, Austin carried the ball nine yards to set up a 1st-and-goal from the one-yard line. Austin ended the first half with six receptions for 55 yards, and two carries for 17 yards.

    Everyone in the stadium knew the situation, but the Rams offensive line still got push on Buffalo’s defensive line to send Gurley into the end zone for the scoring strike.

    With the score tied at 13, Buffalo completed a successful two-minute drive, as kicker Dan Carpenter hit a 23-yard field goal to put the Bills up 16-13 heading into halftime.

    L.A. got back on the board with a 54-yard field goal to open the second-half scoring. But a critical third-quarter turnover gave Buffalo the lead.

    On 2nd-and-14 from the Los Angeles 31-yard line, Keenum attempted to throw an out route to wide receiver Pharoh Cooper — who was active for the first time on Sunday. But cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman jumped the route and returned the pass to 41 yards to the house for a pick six. With the extra point, Buffalo jumped out to a 23-16 lead.

    The Rams overcame a pair of delay-of-game penalties on a fourth-quarter drive to move down the field and inch closer on a Zuerlein field goal. A 31-yard pass to Quick moved Los Angeles to its own 44-yard line. And then a 26-yard screen pass to running back Malcolm Brown put the home team as the visitors’ 35.

    A Gurley carry gave the Rams 1st-and-goal at the Buffalo eight-yard line, but the drive stalled from there. Zuerlein kicked a 22-yard field goal to cut the Bills lead to 23-19 with just about six minutes left.

    Los Angeles’ defense held up its end of the bargain, forcing a three-and-out on the ensuing possession. But the offense also could not move the ball effectively, going three-and-out itself.

    That’s when the Rams attempted some special teams trickery. With 4th-and-5 from the L.A. 23, wide receiver Bradley Marquez received a direct snap as the up man in a punt formation. But the Bills were ready, and tackled Marquez three-yards short of the first-down marker.

    McCoy quickly moved Buffalo down to the Rams’ one-yard line with a 24-yard gain. And though an illegal formation penalty moved the Bills back, Taylor completed a touchdown pass to wide receiver Marquise Goodwin, giving Buffalo a 30-19 lead with just over two minutes remaining.

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    Maybe it;s just me but I think Johnson being hurt is weighing on him in that clip.

    ….

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    In fact, he would gladly streak through the grocery store for a gallon of milk. Of course, his streaking problem is for another thread. Sorry I brought it up.

    I thought we agreed that was a taboo topic.

    And always remember what banning means here. Here, banning means you can NEVER leave.

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