Zooey wrote:

A third thing is that they have to stop dribbling footballs off their facemasks. You aren’t supposed to dribble the ball at all in football. That’s hockey.

So they need to work on fundamentals.

I don’t think it does them any good at all to get better at the fundamentals of dribbling. So I don’t buy that.

I will say this. If Cunningham is in the game instead of injured, that never happens. Why? He doesn’t CARE about the fundamentals of dribbling. That’s why.

wv wrote:

I dunno exactly. Its like a total meltdown now.

WTF happened to this team? They were 3 and 1, and looking like a scrappy, tough, wildcard team.

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You want a theory?

It’s 2 things.

#1.

Boras was a first-time OC installing a revised offense after a move. That means they entered the season dead in the water and out of sync. They still got up to speed and then were tough in the first quarter because Boras was a good enough coordinator to get them into games.

But he couldn;t handle on the fly adjustments after that, that is adjustments to adjustments. From the 2nd quarter on he was always behind the 8 ball.

From the day Boras took over in 2015, the Rams stopped being able to out-adjust teams in the 2nd half. Which means that Gurley dominating in the 2nd half was strictly a Cigs thing.

And btw I don’t think Cigs was fired because of the product on the field. I suspect Cigz was a load behind closed doors.

MOST OF THE THINGS PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT would just be minor irritants if the offense were able to keep them in games and produce more wins. So it LOOKS like there;s this long list of complaints and problems but I think that’s bs. Had they won, most of that stuff would either disappear or wouldn’t have mattered that much. And they couldn’t win because they could not produce offensively after the 1st quarter, when it was time to adjust to the adjustments.

2016:

Rams were 18th in 1st quarter points per game
Rams were 32nd in 2nd quarter points per game
Rams were 30th in 3rd quarter points per game
Rams were 28th in 4th quarter points per game.

(Note: want to see what they were in the 4th quarter in 2012 and 2013? 2012, 16th. 2013, 19th.)

Let’s say they stayed 18th in points per game for an entire game. Which means being able to effectively adjust to the adjustments. That would put them at about 22.5 points per game. If everything else remained the same, that would mean 3 more wins right there. They would be 7-6 right now even with a rookie qb.

#2.

In addition to that it’s the qb.

First, teams caught up with Keenum. They were out of sync for 2 games, then used Keenum well for a few games—in spite of not being able to run. Then teams figured out that daring Keenum to beat you actually didn;t work. So they found ways to reduce Keenum, and since he was a limited passer, that worked.

Goff then took over but he is still a rookie. That means among other things this–he is not as good as a vet at recognizing blitzes and coverages. It’s a myth for example that the OL doesn’t protect Goff. The truth is Keenum was better, because he was more experienced, at calling protections and seeing blitzes.

Rams sack percentage with Keenum (same OL): 6.8%
Rams sack percentage with Goff last 3 games (same OL): 10.5%

10.5% is just wretchedly bad.

And remember–same OL.

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The truth? If those 2 things do NOT improve any new coach will not win either.

If those 2 things had been better all along Fisher would have won.

But I expect both things to improve.

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InvaderRam wrote:

of course it could go the way of carroll. another jerk. and he comes back to the pros to lead the rams to glory.

would it be worth it?

Carroll, however, is not a jerk to his PLAYERS. Harbaugh is a jerk to EVERYONE.

Agamemnon wrote:

Or maybe they thought Goff needed a better coach? Goff wasn’t getting much help out there.

I doubt anyone expects that changes NOW.

I mean what are the odds?

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Well thank gawd THAT issue has been settled anyway.

wv wrote:

So do we want Snead to stay?

w
v

I do.

And I am not yet convinced that it is certain Fisher is gone.

Zooey wrote:

zn wrote:

He deliberately went out of his way to state that he WASN’T talking about the scheme. I know that given their view of things, some posters will want him to have said that. But he directly made it clear he WASN;T saying that.

Why do I care? Because I think better of him than that. Heck this is not the worst recent Rams season we have seen, and can you imagine Steven Jackson publicly blaming the coaches for a loss in 2011 etc? He had more class and sense than that. I like to think the same of Gurley.

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I tend to agree with you.

But it was an unfortunate thing to say. Cuz I don’t think it will turn the temperature down on the hot seat for his Coach.

Yeah he’s not hip to PR. He doesn’t know how his remarks will be used against him out of context in an environment like this.

But in fact the only way to read his remark the way some read it IS to take it completely out of context and to ignore this statement: “Coaches have nothing to do with it. This is us.”

Unfortunately, taking statements out of context is something that can occur.

Which is why I am surprised you said THIS: I tend to agree with you…on the hot seat for his Coach.

But, I didn’t say anything about a coach’s hot seat.

(Yuck yuck, see what I did there?)

PA Ram wrote:

Gurley needs to look in the mirror. He hasn’t had a great year and it isn’t ALL on the line or the scheme. He needs to figure some things out.

He deliberately went out of his way to state that he WASN’T talking about the scheme. I know that given their view of things, some posters will want him to have said that. But he directly made it clear he WASN;T saying that.

Why do I care? Because I think better of him than that. Heck this is not the worst recent Rams season we have seen, and can you imagine Steven Jackson publicly blaming the coaches for a loss in 2011 etc? He had more class and sense than that. I like to think the same of Gurley.

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