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December 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm in reply to: how many of these movies have you seen? an arbitrary list #61104
znModeratorSeen 19 of them only.
My favorites:
Chinatown
Fargo
Cool Hand Luke
Showgirls
The HustlerYou’ve never watched any Kurosawa?
You must fix that.
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December 14, 2016 at 9:00 pm in reply to: how many of these movies have you seen? an arbitrary list #61100znModeratorThe Hustler and The Seven Samurai are favorites
Two of my favorite movies.
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Fast Eddie: Fat man, you shoot a great game of pool.
Minnesota Fats: So do you, Fast Eddie.***
Villager: How can we find a samurai to protect us if we can pay with only rice?
Gisaku: Find hungry samurai.***
[While Heihachi is chopping wood with his sword]
Gorobei Katayama: You’re good.
Heihachi Hayashida: Yeah, yeah. But I’m better at killing enemies.
Gorobei Katayama: Killed many?
Heihachi Hayashida: Well — it’s impossible to kill ’em all, so I usually run away.
Gorobei Katayama: A splendid principle!znModeratorYes that is likely one the if not THE biggest problem with the offense, but that was ultimately JF’s choice, so IMHO that decision goes directly back to him.
Yeah!
Of course it does.
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znModeratorYeah, but Fisher was stoopid to base his whole offense around the Punting game.
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vWhy? It’s not like he’s ever going to get fired.
Your lack of awareness baffles me sometimes.
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znModeratorHekker has also done a nice job of keeping the ball out of the end zone, as he’s had just one touchback this season.
Holy Toledo.
I didn’t realize that.
That there be some good punting.
znModeratorINJURY REPORT
The Rams upgraded two players on their injury report for Tuesday.
Defensive end Matt Longacre (heel) participated on a limited basis Tuesday after not participating on Monday. And wide receiver Brian Quick (shoulder) was a full participant on Tuesday after sitting out on Monday.
Safety Maurice Alexander (concussion), running back Benny Cunningham (neck), and cornerback E.J. Gaines (thigh) all did not practice.
Defensive end Robert Quinn (concussion) participated in full once again on Tuesday.
Tight end Cory Harkey was placed on injured reserve with a triceps injury.
“From a special teams coach’s perspective, Cory Harkey is one of the greatest guys I’ve ever coached — just a leader, a player,” Fassel said.
znModeratorDecember 14, 2016 at 3:32 pm in reply to: how many of these movies have you seen? an arbitrary list #61057znModeratorI’ve seen all of them except “My Darling Clementine”.
And i aint watchin My Darling Clementine.
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vYou don’t know what it’s about I bet.
from the wiki
My Darling Clementine is a 1946 American western film directed by John Ford and starring Henry Fonda as Wyatt Earp during the period leading up to the gunfight at the OK Corral. The ensemble cast also features Linda Darnell, Victor Mature, Walter Brennan, Tim Holt, and Ward Bond.
The film is generally regarded as one of the best Westerns made by John Ford and one of his best films overall.
znModeratorDemoff doesn’t do contracts any more
Really? I was always under the impression KD was the wizard behind the cap.
If it’s not KD, then who is responsible for contracts and cap…and what exactly is KD’s job then?
Doing the contracts and being in charge of managing the cap are or can be 2 different things.
The new contracts guy is Tony Pastoors. He’s a Dartmouth boy so IMO that means he’s Demoff’s hire. They wouldn’t hand the cap over to a junior guy. So he works with Demoff. If Demoff were The Joker, Pastoors would be Bob…his #1 guy.
On Pastoors:
Tucked away in an office opposite of Rams C.O.O. Kevin Demoff sits Tony Pastoors, the senior assistant of the Los Angeles Rams. As the team’s lead negotiator, Pastoors works alongside Demoff in salary cap management, contract negotiations, compliance with the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement and the team’s financial and strategic planning
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znModeratorGot one?
I’d say the two games against the powerful 49ers, a few years back. Cant remember what year that was. I think they tied one and won one, if i remember right.
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vThat was exactly my choice. The 2 games against SF in 2012. Rams were 3-5 and coming off losing to GB and NE for a combined 27-75. They go into SF, who is 11th on offense and 3rd on defense, and fight them to the final whistle. That’s the year SF went 11-4-1, won the NFC title, and went to the superbowl.
znModeratorOk but thats a damn big Failure.
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vzn looking around: hunh? what?
Did someone say different?
December 14, 2016 at 12:15 pm in reply to: informal poll: how good is this roster for a new HC? #61028znModeratorWell, I think just about any coach is going to try and resign TruJo, especially with the Rams’ cap situation in such good shape. He is one of the best corners in the league and the rest of the corners are either unproven or meh.
That’s plausible, but it may depend on whether TJ fits the new coach’s model and whether or not they want to use that money on something else. I put McDonald in the same category.
To me, it;s not like Donald, where a new coach would be an idiot to replace him.
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znModeratorznModeratorOne might well ask which foreign government had a larger roll in assisting Trump’s victory over Clinton and more to gain: Russia or Israel.
Clever.
znModeratorTHIS years offense was barely touched by injuries and whatever the reason,
That’s true. Different circumstances this year. Though we might disagree on how to interpret that. But still. What describes 2016 does not describe his entire tenure. I actually think, for example, that in 2015, going 7-9 with that schedule and a very inexperienced (and then injured) OL and a melted down qb in Foles, is something of an accomplishment.
The problems for 2016, to me, had to do with a 1st time coordinator. To me that’s why they couldn’t repeat 2015, which was better in spite of all the obstacles they had to overcome.
But having said that, I am going to bow out. The coach is dead. Long live the coach.
znModeratorDuring his entire tenure the majority of his offensive acquisitions whether via FA or the draft just didn’t perform.
See I don’t see it that way. They had several years worth of combined OL injuries and qb injuries and melt downs which meant being stuck with #2 caliber qbs. I can’t think of any team that has been effective under those conditions.
znModeratorLet’s say the Rams fire Les Snead, and hire JackPMiller as the new GM, how would you react? Would you love the hire?
Bless you Jack. You’re a good regular here. Don’t leave us to become a GM.
znModeratorThat is $4M higher than it was before.
A rise to 166-170 M would give the Rams, right now, 41-45+ M in 2017 free cap space. That would put them around 10th in the league.
The teams that are screwed next year include Eagles, Chiefs, Jets, and Cowboys.
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znModeratorIt really all just reduces to not replacing Schottenheimer effectively.
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znModeratorBound to happen. Open season now.
Enh. I don’t buy most of this stuff. I see a lot of hyperbole about Fisher. He seems to set some people off.
To me he’s an ordinary story—another good coach whose team didn’t turn the corner and he took the hit.
I really don;t get the hyperbole.
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znModeratorRams players believe they let Jeff Fisher down
Alden Gonzalez
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Jeff Fisher addressed his team one final time on Monday, shortly after learning he had been fired as the Los Angeles Rams’ head coach.
At one point, Fisher apologized for letting them down.
“We really should be apologizing to him,” Rams offensive lineman Jamon Brown said later. “Everybody probably didn’t do what they needed to to make sure something like this wouldn’t happen.”
Fisher was fired the day after a 42-14 blowout loss at home to the Atlanta Falcons, a game that was haunted by five turnovers. It was the Rams’ eighth loss in a span of nine games, dropping them to 4-9 and giving Fisher his 165th career loss, tying Dan Reeves for the NFL record. After the game, several players spoke up about why their struggles should not fall on the coaches. And on Monday, the prevailing sentiment was that they let Fisher down.
“It’s unfortunate because the losses always get put onto the head coach, but the reality is we f—ed it up,” said defensive end William Hayes, who has spent eight of his nine NFL seasons playing under Fisher and called him “my football dad.” “We messed up a real good situation. We didn’t go out there and do what we needed to do. We were so inconsistent, and that’s why he doesn’t have a job.”
Players respected Fisher for how he led them, and how understanding he was when they weren’t healthy enough to play, and how he asked about their families, and how he seemed to genuinely care about their overall well-beings. He gave the majority of the players in that locker room their first shot in the NFL, calling them on draft day, and so many of them felt indebted.
One reporter brought up the possibility that Fisher might have lost the locker room, considering the Rams’ past three games were lopsided losses.
“That’s bulls—,” Hayes spat. “Everybody in the locker room loves that guy. I don’t want to get personal, throw shots at anybody, but individually, guys didn’t do what they’re supposed to do. Guys played like s—, and that’s why we don’t have a head coach. We didn’t win games we should have won — Detroit, New York. If we won, we’d still have a head coach. We f—ing failed him.”
“It’s a tough pill to swallow,” middle linebacker Alec Ogletree added. “Guys in here love and respect him, would’ve done anything for him, and he would’ve done the same for us. … We hate to see him go, but it’s a production business, and they want to see wins on the table. Everybody needs somebody to blame.”
The Rams have been no better than 7-8-1 under Fisher, who has finished .500 or worse in 14 of his 20 prior full seasons as an NFL head coach. Fisher inherited an organization that had lost 65 of 80 games in a span of five years and immediately made it competitive, but the Rams were never able to advance toward legitimate contention. They continually committed too many penalties and were never able to field a productive offense. And down the stretch of their first season back in Los Angeles, they unraveled.
“He treated us the way we’re supposed to be treated and in return we didn’t do enough for him,” Rams quarterback Jared Goff said. “That’s really what it comes down to. We didn’t get it done, and unfortunately it falls on him. Us in the locker room blame ourselves, and we need to be better.”
Fisher, who will be replaced by special teams coordinator John Fassel in the interim, told the players to keep fighting and to not give up on a season that has long been lost.
Brown was asked why Fisher was so well-liked and he talked about how well he handled the criticism that surrounded him over these past few days. Then Brown, 23, started to get emotional.
“I don’t even know how to explain it, but it’s encouraging,” Brown said. “It’s encouraging for us moving forward, because he didn’t let anything get him down, he didn’t let anything bother him. He just came back to work. And that’s kind of what he’s telling us to do. Although this might be a distraction, we have to keep working.”
znModeratorSome Great Journalism on Lawrence Phillips
Peter King
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/12/12/nfl-week-14-giants-cowboys-leveon-bell-peter-king
Showtime has a 90-minute documentary debuting Friday night (9 p.m. ET) on the troubled and violent life of former Nebraska/NFL/CFL/NFL Europe running back Lawrence Phillips, who died at 40 last January in a California prison. One of the most gifted running backs to enter the NFL, Phillips was a classic case of self-ruin, through a horrendous history of domestic violence, abetted by alcoholism.
The documentary, written ably by Armen Keteyian, Lars Anderson and Al Briganti, is as harrowing a piece of journalism as I’ve seen on a disturbed athlete wreaking havoc on the people around him. It is superb. Phillips, starting at Nebraska and ending after his far-too-short football career, had a pattern of violence with women.
The story is told so vividly—by the women he abused, by a prosecutor who worked to put him behind bars, and by the coaches who got stung by him—that it makes you wonder how this troubled human being kept getting chance after chance after chance in football.
“A wasted, gifted human being,” Dick Vermeil, his coach in St. Louis, says, his voice shaking. “It haunts me.”
Phillips’ last victim—that we know of—was a San Diego exotic dancer, Amaliya Weisler, who describes a torturous beating and strangulation in her apartment, and how she hid in a closet when Phillips returned.
The documentary is so thorough and well told that the next face you see in the piece is the San Diego County prosecutor, Nicole Rooney, describing the post-assault examination of Weisler. Rooney said she had “the worst strangulation marks that I ever saw where a victim lived.”
But it’s not just a thorough piece of reporting on the awful things that Phillips did. It’s an explanation of why he did them. The story begins at two Los Angeles-area youth homes after Phillips had been taken out of a loveless home. There’s no justification for doing what Phillips did, of course. But you get some idea why after the back story, told so well by Keteyian et al.
It’s a crowded landscape in the NFL media world. But I cannot recommend this 90-minute doc more highly. Subscribe to Showtime here.
znModeratorNothing like a good Old Testament allusion.
Well you know. For everything there is a season.
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znModeratormike freeman @mikefreemanNFL
Source very close to Jim Harbaugh just texted me: “Jim isn’t leaving Michigan. He may never leave Michigan.”znModeratorI can’t get that out of my head. What was that all about? If they were talking about a possible HC gig while Fish was still in the building…man that’s pretty bad IMO.
Word out there was that FISHER invited Shaw AND the entire coaching staff. They watched a practice.
Fisher was fine with SK btw until the recent series of blow-out losses. Demoff made that very clear.
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znModeratorBut I do wonder if we are just seeing a lack of focus.
Moving to LA from St. Louis has to be a mental distraction, and up until now, I was just thinking in terms of finding a place to live, and all that stuff. And that stuff is over.
But it’s a totally different culture. And a zillion distractions and bright shiny things around. New roads to learn. New restaurants and clubs. The ocean.
I dunno. Maybe it just mentally took them out of their mindset enough.
I think there’s something to that.
Though, I don’t feel it was “decisive.”
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December 13, 2016 at 10:07 am in reply to: Rams will wear Blue and White helmets on Thursday vs Seattle #60922znModeratorMan punches a kangaroo in the face to rescue his dog (Original HD)
My problem with that is, I assume the dog was harassing the kangaroo first.
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znModeratorYes–I will echo sanbagger. I do think that you make strong points, zn. But I do think the o-line failed this year. I think Gurley also failed and that lack of a running game killed them.
I don’t really know why.
The O-line was continually pushed back…kinda why they passed on 3rd and 2 and kinda why TG is near the lead as far as getting hit in the backfield….they had no shot to get the push to enable the RB to get the 1st down.
Why did the OL perform BETTER with Keenum?
Why did the same OL perform better in 2015 with Gurley?
First remember Gurley in 2015. Gurley was never a big yards per carry guy. He would keep battering…with the same OL as in 2016…but then break big runs in the 2nd half (usually). At the time, Fisher himself kept saying that they saw what the defense was doing with Gurley and adjusted. You know that that “2nd half Gurley” stuff stopped the day Boras took over.
Now I want to be clear—even performing optimally it would not be a top line. But then there are lots of teams that do well even though they have average lines (Seattle cough cough).
But (to me unsurprisingly) it was clearly better when they had a veteran qb who recognized things pre-snap and was very good at calling protections, spotting blitzes, and making adjustments. Goff should not be expected to be as good at that and sure enough starting with the Saints that has been what he has faced—heavy blitzing. (Miami didn’t do that an in that game Goff was sacked once—MIami relied on a top DL, and the result was, even in the rain, it took the defense to lose that game. Why was the OL better against Miami, even given the quality of that DL?).
The absolutely ideal qb to have behind a more limited line is Brady. Not many can expect to be at that level. But right now Goff is the opposite.
And yes if we put even part of Keenum’s awareness and knowledge in Goff’s head, IMO, people would say the OL was playing better.
To me, if you had a veteran qb and a coordinator who could adjust to defenses at least as well as Cigz did (who was an experienced OC unlike Boras), then I honestly believe people would not be as down on the OL. It would perform better. Not talking Dallas. But clearly and obviously better. I base that on the fact that they DID perform better when other things were in place to let them.
…znModeratorThose of you calling for the WRONG guy, don’t have a clue–in my opinion. I can promise you…if they hire the WRONG guy we will all regret this next year at this time and agree what a mistake they made.
So trust me…please. They need the RIGHT guy. They really do.
And I hope that’s who they hire.
Like you I am skeptical about coaching hire discussions. My entire time on the net discussing the Rams, I have never seen a coaching hire discussion that was as good as posters get discussing personnel.
All I really know at this point, personally, are the guys whose personalities rub me the wrong way. And whose personalities I know were bad on the job. That includes McDaniels, Harbaugh and Gruden. And I could be wrong about that, maybe one of them changed.
I don’t want to shadow discussions like that with my constant skepticism. But…my 2 cents is that reporters, “insiders,” and fans just are not equipped to have coaching hire discussions that are as good as player discussions.
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