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there is an element of that, and is quite prevalent.

There have been many times when Bradford instead of staying upright and keeping his eyes downfield, will just fold in the pocket.

Another thing he will do is quickly check it down with perceived pressure.

That extra second or two in the pocket was a prominent attribute that made Kurt Warner great.

People talk about his o-line but Kurt took a number of hits for the team…standing in the pocket.

Sam does not handle pressure well at all. Not at all.
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So we have a former player saying Bradford is “soft”
and a former NFL QB saying Bradford lacks ‘courage’.

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Its fascinating to watch this social-change
unfold.

At some point we will reach a tipping point.
Not quite there yet, though.

Even the mega-corporation isn’t quite
sure what to do. They dont wanna get
boycotted by either side, so they are
gonna let the individual announcers
deal with the fallout.

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• This reply was modified 11 years, 11 months ago by wv.

zn wrote:

On the subject of Bradford, Robinson went another direction, calling the fifth-year quarterback returning from an ACL tear “kind of soft.”

He didn’t stop there either. Robinson said the Rams had plenty of weapons on offense, pointing out specifically last year’s first-round pick Tavon Austin, but they needed to “toughen up” their quarterback. Robinson insinuated that Bradford had developed that “soft” reputation around the NFL.

That’s misreported. Listen to the vid in the original post. He doesn’t quite say that and he says more than that (that’s positive). He ends by saying when the game slows down for him a bit, his career will take off.

The vid is a bit different from how the article represents it.

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I think he was talking about Tavon. When the game slows down for Tavon his career will take off.
He wasn’t talking about Bradford at that point.

Ryan Van Bibber said something about this being ‘trash talk’ btw. I dont see Robinson’s view
as ‘trash talk’ at all. He really does simply think Bradford is a bit soft.

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Yeah, it wouldnt surprise me at all
if Seattle didnt even make the playoffs.

The league is just that
weird.

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sdram wrote:

…Can they collectively play to win all their games regardless of where their snooker ball sits, adversity, injuries or any other unknown surprises?

These are my questions – beside what to cook for game day week 1. I’m open to suggestions. I only have two months or so to come up with a suitable menu.

I suggest the Jack Youngblood recipe but the Gino Cappelletti recipe looks interesting too :
http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/holidays/superbowl/tasteofthenfl

St. Louis Rams

player: Jack Youngblood
recipe: Kahlúa Cake
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/KAHLUA-CAKE-1253495

Hall of Fame defensive end Youngblood (1971–84), known as “The John Wayne of football,” once finished the playoffs on a cracked leg. The all-time great requests this dessert from his wife, Barb, on all special occasions. If he’s lucky, he even gets to lick the batter bowl!

• This reply was modified 11 years, 11 months ago by wv.

Herzog wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Yeah, JJ is a bit of a mystery. Is he a budding star? Over-rated? Was he mis-used last year?
Does Greg Williams know how to use him?

Not sure we really know who JJ is going to be.

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Maybe they that’s why they drafted so many corners. Jenkins numbers last year seem really bad to me. Scary bad.

They seem to have done a good job creating competition
in this,the Third Year.

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The Trent Green play is an odd one to show up on that list,
but if the criteria is ‘memorable’ I guess it fits.
Certainly was memorable.

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• This reply was modified 11 years, 11 months ago by zn.

Mackeyser wrote:

If he has his head on right and is ready to be that #1 guy, he’s got everything physical to BE that #1 from day one.

For me, its purely about the injury thing, with Britt. If he can stay healthy,
I think he’ll be a ‘solid’ veteran WR (Glory Hallelujah).

But I’m skeptical he can stay healthy.

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zn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Well, i’m not even sure i would agree that there is one
category we could call ‘running QB.’

Ya know. There’s Staubach. And Kaepernik. And Tarkenton.
And Russell Wilson. And Steve Young. And Montana. And Rothlisberger.
And Cam Newton. And Randall Cunningham. Troy Aikman. And RG3. And even Andrew Luck.

I’m not sure, but i think there are different categories QBs in that group.

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Well, when you get down into the details…that’s true. But I’m fine for now with the simple difference in 2 categories.

I think it’s roughly true that there’s a style of qb who uses his legs as a part of his game–to run or to scramble or to both–and then pocket passers who have varying degrees of lesser mobility.

So for example Bradford is more mobile than Warner but as long as I’m relying on rough categories, I put them both on the “pure pocket passer” side.

So Bradford v. Newton in its own different way amounts to the same as Warner v. McNair.

Then i think its only fair if i bring in other positions. For example
i would argue that “Running RBs” get tackled less
than stationary pocket RBs.

Think about that algebra, right there.

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Mackeyser wrote:

Just wanted to let everyone know that I’m still here. Been having a pretty bad string of migraines lately which are unlikely to abate since my Botox appt was rescheduled from July 15th to August 27th because my neuro doc is in India tending to sick parents. Trying to get back online, but… Well, I’ll be back very soon. Just didn’t want anyone to think I’d fallen in the deep end. Be well, stay positive and Go Rams!!!

IF you are not back soon,
I ‘will’ blow up this board
and reroute it to
The Emily Dickenson Forum.
Just so you know.

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Well for me, the statement “running qbs get sacked more” is perplexing.
I’m not sure what that ‘means’ to you.

I mean, would Roger Staubach have been a better QB
if he had stayed in the pocket all the time?
Would Elway or Steve Young have been better
without running ability? Would Russell Wilson be
better if he had no running ability?
Would Rothlisberger be more or less
dangerous if he had no running ability?

Obviously the ability to run is a ‘good thing’.

So, I’m not sure what your meta-point is here.

Steve Young, John Elway, Joe Montana,
Ben Rothlisberger, Roger Staubach…Ya know.
There’s running-quarterbacks, and there’s
running quarterbacks.

Some of the Running-QBs are just bad QBs.

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zn wrote:

I would disgree, but maybe not in the way you expect. First, yeah Softli was emphatic about Wilson very early on and called it perfectly.

BUT IMO you could put up to a dozen and a half qbs on that team, have them run the same offense, and they would do as well or better.

So I think you over-value him…but just by a bit. I am not in the “Wilson suxx” camp.

It’s like I said though. Put Luck on the Seahawks and they are a freaking dynasty, NOW. Put Wilson on the Colts and both he and they struggle a lot more than they did. Obviously that’s just an opinion, but I like putting it that way.

Who are the many other qbs, who in my mind could qb the 2013 Seahawks with the same results or better? (“Better” probably just meaning they pass more and so the passing attack is a bigger part of their game.)

Alphabetical order –>

Bradford
Brady
Brees
Cutler
Flacco
Foles
Griffen3
Kaepernick
Luck
Manning, E
Manning, P
McNown
Newton
Palmer
Rivers
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Romo
Ryan
Smith, Alex
Stafford

..

Yeah, i value him more highly than you.

I remember how he played in that playoff game against Washington
when they were behind. He really impressed me, leading that team from behind in a playoff game.

I think you just dont like little hobbit quarterbacks.

This video supports your argument, not mine btw. But i still thot it was interesting,
how in those huge blowouts RW completed only 7 passes, etc:

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