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wvParticipantFisher: “We knew we were facing a tough defense”
Watch Jeff Fisher’s postgame press conference following the loss to the Arizona Cardinals.
wvParticipantthe back breaker was not scoring the TD when they had 1st and goal in the 4th….
The third down call, and the decision
to kick a FG on 4th down were interesting to me.
It kinda showed that Fisher had just given up
on the idea of pounding the ball into the endzone
against that Cardinal front seven. Even
Fisher didnt believe they could beat that
Cardinal front with ram-power.That sez somethin about the Ram OLine,
maybe.w
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wvParticipant(Bumrap —
quoting Arians – no link )“Everybody wanted to talk all that stuff about how great their defense is. I think they saw a good defense tonight, it was in red and white,” Arians said before talking about his 143 rushing yards. “We blocked them. I think they had been reading their press clippings way too much.”
wvParticipantFelt a little like the Tampa Buc vs GSOT playoff game.
Just an uphill battle against a defense
that was kicking the Oline’s butt all over the field.The Arizona Cardinals have more heart
and smarts, than any team in the NFL,
that I’ve watched.Cardinals are still just a bit better
than the Rams. Just a bit.Obviously, a close game like that is full of
“what ifs”. What if JJ holds on to the INT,
or Stedman holds on to the short pass, or JJ
recovers the fumble that he forced, or…blah
blah blah.IF you are a Cardinal fan, how do you feel tonight?
They won the battle but lost another QB.6-8 Ah well.
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wvParticipantI have never had any trouble with the idea of the Rams having Bradford in their plans
…But I repeat… You can’t COUNT ON HIM as a starter. What do I mean by that?…
…So, I come back to the real challenge. Keep Sam? OK. I have little problem with that in itself,
though you simply have to EXPECT that he goes down…Well, from what little I’ve read, it seems
that there aren’t a lot of examples of an NFL QB
going down with 2 straight ACL tears. So, I’m
not sure any Doctor is going to be able to predict
what Sam’s future is likely to look like. How do
teams make decisions when the medical experts
are unsure?One wonders, at what point does a QB start
looking like the old broken down Joe Namath.
I dunno.I do know this about Fisher — he will be patient
with Bradford, if the Rams do indeed keep him.
I mean, i could see Fisher not even playing Sam
until halfway through the season next year.Lots of possibilities. Big decisions coming
for this franchise. Lots of unknowns.
Obviously, the QB-issue will be the story
of the offseason.The team should be complete after the draft
and free agency next year — all the ‘other’ pieces
should be in place.w
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wvParticipantI’d like to know what the contract situation is
for the Rams/Bradford.
Is there any reason Bradford should/would take less money
next year?
Are there any creative-cap-answers that could be worked out?Mainly I wanna know WHY Bradford would accept
less money next year than he is already
guaranteed by the contract he and the Rams
signed.What leverage do the Rams have?
What leverage does Sam have?I wonder what Rams fans would say
in a poll where they had to pick between
bringing back Sam or bringing back S.Hill ?
I’m not sure which i would say
is the priority.w
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wvParticipantI dont care about other teams’ fans;
I’m just waiting for RFL
to become optimistic.w
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wvParticipantI have heard that JJ Watt does not suck.
You’ve been posting too much,
lately.
Why is that?What do you have on top of your
Xmas tree?I have a crow on top of mine.
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vDecember 11, 2014 at 12:15 pm in reply to: this has been the best 5-game stretch for run D in Rams history #13632
wvParticipantSo, Quinn is Deacon,
and Donald is Merlin,
i guess.w
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wvParticipantOline. Its always the Oline.
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wvParticipantI dont even have words.
And look at the vote count.
It wasn’t even close.w
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wvParticipantWell is there any other DE-DT combo
you would take?I cant think of a better one.
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wvParticipantHarbaugh and Kaepernik
are not exactly
Marv Levy and Jim Kelly,
are they.Not the easiest two to
root for.w
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wvParticipantTwice in Fisher’s coaching career, its taken him
Four+ years, to build a winner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fisher(Not counting his 94 team where he came
in halfway thru the season),
In the 90’s it took him FIVE years to build a Winner:95 he was 7-9
96 – 8-8
97 – 8-8
98 – 8-8
99- 13-3and then in the 2000’s it took him
Four years:
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 8-8
2007 10-6
(2008 -13-3 )With the Rams its been
2012 -7-8-1
2013 7-9
2014 (6-7)
2015Jeff Fisher has never had
three winning seasons in a Row.w
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December 10, 2014 at 3:47 pm in reply to: reporters etc (including Warner) preview the ARIZONA game #13561
wvParticipantBernie Byte: The Rams as betting favorites
• By Bernie Miklasz[www.stltoday.com]
Despite being 6-7, the Rams are a four-point betting favorite over the visiting Arizona Cardinals, who lead the NFC West with an impressive 10-3 record.
Other than the obvious thing — the betting line is directly related to wagering trends — why are the Rams favored?
Let’s take a look:
• The Cardinals are unbeaten at home but only 3-3 on the road. The Cardinals rank 24th in the NFL with a road-scoring average of 19.7 points per game, and they are 26th with only 11 touchdowns from scrimmage in road games. They rank 29th with an average of 3.3 yards per carry in road games, 25th in net passing yards per road game, and are 31st in average yards from scrimmage (299.3) when away from home.
• Home or away the AZ offense has slowed, scoring only two touchdowns in the last 15 quarters of play.
• Arizona QB Drew Stanton is 1-3 on the road with a 63.5 passer rating. That 63.5 road passer rating is the worst among NFL quarterbacks. At least until now, Stanton has been a different quarterback on the road. He’s been very good at home, having gone 4-0 as a starter with a 97.7 passer rating.
• The Rams defense has pitched two consecutive shutouts; that hasn’t happened in the NFL since Dallas did it in 2009. And the two consecutive shutouts are the first for the franchise since the Cleveland Rams pulled it off in 1945.
• The Rams defense is now second in the NFL (to Seattle) for fewest points allowed. This counts ONLY the points scored by the opposing offense against the defense. It excludes INT and fumble returns for touchdowns, and TDs scored on special teams. Anyway, Seattle has allowed 219 points from scrimmage, and the Rams defense is a close second with 221 points given up.
• Since Nov. 2, which spans six games, the Rams defense has produced an impressive set of rankings:
– The Rams have allowed the fewest number of touchdowns from scrimmage, 6.
– They have the most sacks, 29.
– They are tied for 1st for most takeaways, with 15.
– They are tied for 2nd with nine interceptions.
– They are tied for 2nd in third-down stops, with opponents converting 29.6 percent.
– They are 2nd in fewest rushing yards given up per game (58.7) and are third in average yield (3.26 yards) per rushing attempt.
– They are 6th on the list of the lowest opponents’ passer rating, at 76.7.
So you can see the basis for gamblers thinking that the Rams have a good chance of winning.
I suppose this is another sign of the Rams making progress: when the gamblers start believing in you, then you’re probably on the way to becoming a good team.
This is a rarity, by the way.
The Rams will be favored to win for a third consecutive game. That hasn’t happened since the final three games of their 2010 season.
This will be only the 10th time that the Rams entered a game as the favorite since Jeff Fisher became head coach in 2012.
In their previous nine betting-favorite games under Fisher, the Rams went 5-4 in covering the spread. That includes the team’s consecutive wins over Oakland (52-0) and Washington (24-0.)
When the Rams are the betting underdog, they’ve gone 21-15 against the point spread with Fisher as coach.
Thanks for reading …
— Bernie
wvParticipantOne interesting PFF stat.
Hill is ranked 3rd in accuracy percentage under pressure.
This ranking includes only qbs who have thrown 100 or more passes.
I like Hill a lot, and was pleased with the signing,
but the INT in the Viking game, and that INT
in the Charger game were horrendous. (i know some folks
think the viking-INT was due to the thigh injury, but i
dont see it that way)Now one of my Favorite plays in the Washington game —
was a play where Hill actually got sacked. The rams
were in the redzone. And Hill got sacked once, If i remember
right, but then its third down and rather than risk another
horrendous INT, Hill just basically did a duck-and-cover move
very quickly. He didnt try to ‘make something happen’ and he
didnt take any risks — he was gonna settle for the easy Three
(which legatron missed). But i loved the fact that Hill
seemed to have gotten the message from BS and Fisher — if the
game is close just dont LOSE it. Manage the game. Let
the defense and Tre Mason win it. Make the plays that are there
to make but dont risk INTs.Thats how i interpreted that sack, anyway. I
thought it was a great play.w
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wvParticipantI dunno whats gonna happen, but this
is a game a ‘good team’ should win.
A home game against a team with a back-up QB.The Cards aint the Raiders or Washington,
thats for sure. They can street-fight
with the best of em.I’m excited.
Tavon and Cook and Hill,
need to hold onto the ball.
I dont think the Cards can win
without turnovers.w
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wvParticipantInteresting.
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I really like JL55, but does he seem a little slow in run support? I watch him get caught in traffic a lot more than he used to. Maybe it is just the way their run fits are designed. Any insight there?
by Jesse 3:50 PMAn ankle issue has been a factor. Some games it affects him more than others. He had ankle surgery in the offseason, and I believe, aggravated the same foot in camp. Fisher has rested him on Wednesdays the last several weeks to help keep him fresh.
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wvParticipantRemember those Saints linbebackers?
“…The Rams (7-4) needed something out of him while facing an NFC West rival that sat one game behind them in the standings. The Saints were ferocious. They boasted four Pro Bowl linebackers: Sam Mills, Vaughan Johnson, Pat Swilling, and future Hall of Famer Rickey Jackson. “They were just ass kickers,” said Rams kicker Mike Lansford, whose bare right foot6 ended up heavily factoring into the proceedings…”
wvParticipantI am just more depressed than ever.
I read a lot of the comments under the various articles on the Rams’ “Don’t shoot” and on stories of Derrick Rose and some Cavaliers wearing “I can’t breathe” shirts.
And the tenor of the comments is just depressing. A bunch of (obviously) white guys proving they don’t get it. At all.
It’s not that I didn’t expect those reactions. It’s just the sheer preponderance of them.
Well the upside iz,
the talking-monkeys will probably
destroy the biosphere before too long
and Gaia can start over. Maybe, with
talking moss, or talking grapes
or something less virulent.Nice to see Lebron being the anti-Jordan, btw.
I saw a thing on espn’s Outside The Lines.Go Rams,
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Oregon State’s Sean Mannion (6-5½, 220) drew the most praise among the seniors. He scored 36 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.
“More of a third-rounder,” one scout said. “Just lacks arm strength. Good size, good production.”
=================This guy, maybe.
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wvParticipant“..Titans turned that trick…as did the two best defenses of the last 45 years, the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens. Notably the two teams to record THREE straight shutouts are the 1970 St. Louis Cardinals and the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers. This defense appears to have turned the corner toward living up to its hype….”
The Cardinals
had a great Defense??I dont remember that.
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wvParticipantwv wrote:
And Arizona beat KC.
Sets up a good game with the Rams.w
vActually means the Rams are officially out of playoffs
Well in a weird way, i am glad that
is out of the way. I didnt
take any of that playoff stuff seriously.Now its just playing for pride,
playing for a winning season,
setting up…Year FOUR 🙂w
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wvParticipantAnd Arizona beat KC.
Sets up a good game with the Rams.w
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wvParticipantPrime Time
This Inept heartless bunch of losers has drained all my passion and fun of a game I’ve loved since childhood.So tired of watching prideless quitters bumbling around field disgracing what Redskins once stood for!!!!
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It’s gotten so bad I almost read a book today.A book.
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I’m hearing a lot from people decrying or naysaying, saying a petition won’t work, a boycott won’t work, etc… etc… and yet I see more and more people every day making the choices I’ve made as a fan.I no longer spend money on this team like I HAVE spent until recently.
I no longer contribute to ratings by watching the games at home.
Looking like nobody showed up to the game today. If you want to show your lack of support, show it in whatever way you want. Just like the phrase “winning solves everything,” when they start doing things right, we’ll cheer and stuff. If they don’t, well, just not cheering has gotten to be underwhelming. I won’t be a fan of another football team. The NFL and its rules are progressively making football less fun for me. However, I will and have stopped watching and supporting the redskins as a football team.
I just follow rugby now.
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i’m afraid the only way dan would sell would be if someone could come up with some dirt on him, ala donald sterling.. sigh
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I despise you, Snyder. With the burning, white hot heat of a thousand suns. You and your lapdog ass-sniffing soulless corporate lackeys. There’s a Bible verse that says, “don’t throw your pearls before the swine.” Then there’s the swine, who say, “Don’t throw the pearls someone threw us to Snyder.”Geez. It was only two years ago,
the Wash-fans were all-aflutter about RG3
and their team.w
vDecember 7, 2014 at 6:32 pm in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #13312
wvParticipanthttp://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11978096/after-ferguson-sports-stars-waking-up
The “anti-jordans”Howard Bryant
This story appears in ESPN The Magazine’s Dec. 22 Interview Issue. Subscribe today!
AFTER THE BLOOD AND FIRE of Ferguson, the video of a killing in New York that went unpunished and a 12-year-old shot dead in Cleveland, a wave of protest is rapidly defining America, awakening athletes once considered too busy with their stock portfolios to notice much of anything. It isn’t just the St. Louis Five, the Rams players united in the wake of the Ferguson non-indictment, but also Saints tight end Ben Watson speaking out on Facebook. It’s Pacers forward David West on Twitter, more invested in the black lives that fall at the hands of the police than in how his words might risk his brand. It is LeBron James and the Heat in hoodies after Trayvon Martin’s death last year, and Kobe Bryant this year indicting not Michael Brown nor Darren Wilson but an entire broken system of justice that in many ways created both of them.
The awakening represents the arrival of the anti-Jordans, the athlete as a living, breathing, thinking citizen and not just a sneaker pitchman. If the aftermath of September 11 politicized the ballfield by valorizing American militarism, athletes after the non-indictments in Ferguson and New York now reject the public demand of shut up and play. They see that America, divided by race and class, could not be less “post-racial,” a term intended to bury yesterday and soften tomorrow. It is an awakening in which some black athletes see no reward for being dutiful front men, for saluting the police as heroes at halftime; they instead see themselves reduced to a pre-racial place, no more American or human for their loyalty, so convinced that black lives don’t matter that they’ve joined the national movement demanding that they do.
These anti-Jordans know their enormous sums of money can shield their children from attending a broken public school system or from living in a neighborhood with no services, no self-determination and no hope. But they also know they cannot shield their friends, their aunts and uncles, from those same realities, and they cannot be sure that following all the rules will keep their loved ones from being shot by police. Money cannot shield players from their own consciences, or from the video of a New York policeman killing Eric Garner with a choke hold. Players’ silence has kept them tethered to systems they now find they must protest. Violence has shattered the post-racial myth and finally ended the silence.
Rams receiver Kenny Britt’s message on his taped wrists-“Mike Brown” on the right, “My Kids Matter” on the left-directly challenged that tethering, a severing of those ties. The patronizing aftermath-the St. Louis Police Officers Association demanded the NFL discipline Britt and his teammates-validated Britt’s voice, the massive overreaction connecting protected black players to the abandoned black poor.
The racial divide in this country is most powerfully demonstrated by white America’s ironclad belief in a legal system that black America views as hopelessly, oppressively broken. Ferguson flayed open the division. For African-Americans, race is personal, all day, every day, legally and emotionally the defining characteristic of our American existence. For whites, race is often but a topic, one to be debated and engaged or dismissed as whining and tabled for another day. It is a gap that cannot be bridged by flimsily blaming hip-hop culture or demanding that blacks need to be more responsible, for black responsibility is inseparable from blockbusting, redlining, and the other government and cultural forces that created the debilitating conditions in the first place.
The current awakening confronts the intersection of race and power, but if players successfully challenged power by toppling Donald Sterling, and if they now feel emboldened to protest police brutality, domestic violence is a reminder that the activist male player should not get too comfortable. Men must now confront another power, and that power is themselves. The next awakening will be in discovering just how many of these dots players choose to connect, for the trinity of class, race and gender is inseparable. The masculinity system, like the justice system and the racist and classist elements that fuel today’s protests, now requires reform. Players’ actions will tell us whether they are more than just a commercial. If so, maybe their awakening will be complete.
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wvParticipantRams pitch second straight shutout; RGIII enters late
By Chris Wesseling
Around the NFL Writer
Published: Dec. 7, 2014 at 04:12 p.m.
Updated: Dec. 7, 2014 at 05:58 p.m.http://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/Rams-pitch-second-straight-shutout-RGIII-enters-late-1-10833036
It took a late-game Colt McCoy neck strain for Robert Griffin III to get back on the field for the Washington Redskins in Sunday’s 24-0 loss to the St. Louis Rams.
With the game no longer in doubt and McCoy struggling mightily to move the offense, Griffin came on for five fruitless plays over the final two minutes.
It will be interesting to see if coach Jay Gruden considers yet another quarterback change after watching McCoy’s game film. McCoy clearly was in pain and in a hurry to get to a hospital for further evaluation, according to ESPN’s John Keim.
Here’s what else we learned on Sunday:
1. The Around The NFL Podcast has dubbed the Rams the best 5-7 team in NFL history. Now they are the best 6-7 team, thanks to a swarming defense that is first in the NFL in takeaways and second in sacks over the past six weeks. They dominated this game, recording two interceptions, seven sacks and 11 quarterback hits en route to the franchise’s first back-to-back shutouts since the 1945 Cleveland Rams. This roster is a franchise quarterback away from contending for the NFC West in 2015.
2. Colt McCoy is who we thought he was. He has struggled out of the gate in every game he has started this season. Redskins fans actually started an “RGIII” chant after Tavon Austin’s 78-yard punt-return touchdown staked the Rams to a 24-0 lead late in the third quarter. We have been saying for three weeks that Jay Gruden should be playing Kirk Cousins, but none of the quarterback options is particularly appetizing. That doesn’t speak well of Gruden, who was brought in to fix the offense.
3. Ryan Kerrigan might not get the recognition because he plays on a miserable team, but he’s enjoying a Pro Bowl-caliber season. He already has a career-high 11.5 sacks and spent the afternoon putting a clownsuit on Rams right tackle Joseph Barksdale. Kerrigan is the lone bright spot on a defense that has become known for blown coverages.
4. Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer is finally getting creative with his use of Tavon Austin. Although Austin has been a non-factor as a wide receiver, he piled up a season-high 46 rushing yards on five carries Sunday, putting his season total at 341.
[www.nfl.com]
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wvParticipantwv wrote:
Maddy wrote:
Fisher had the six players from the RGIII trade as coin toss captains. That’s pretty good.OMG, are you kidding me?
You are, arent you.w
vNo it’s true. JT tweeted it.
Well that is just a little ornery.
And humorous.w
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wvParticipantYa know, its true that the
Raiders and Washington suck,
but the 99-GSOT team beat-down
a ton of awful teams. It wasnt
the fact they beat bad teams
that was salient — it was the “way”
they beat them.This team has beaten two awful teams
in an intriguing way. (with a backup QB)w
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