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    LOOK, MA, GREAT HANDS! L.A. receivers Flipper Anderson and Henry Ellard are mama’s boys

    by RICHARD HOFFER

    Originally Posted: September 10, 1990

    HENRY Ellard and Willie (Flipper) Anderson may produce more
    electricity than the Hoover Dam when it comes to catching a football.
    But off the field, these two Los Angeles Rams don’t generate enough
    juice to jump-start a toaster. Low voltage? Anderson, who at least
    has a nickname, is so far out of touch with his celebrity that on the
    rare occasions when he indulges in nightlife he sallies forth to
    sleepy San Bernardino, not Los Angeles. Mostly he hangs out in Chino
    Hills — a development so thoroughly suburban it could be from the
    Nick at Nite lineup — and trades Nintendo games with the
    neighborhood kids. Ellard, who once had a tag (he was known as
    Grasshopper at Fresno State), likes to cap a perfect day with a stop
    at a fast-food restaurant. Actually, a perfect day for Ellard would
    be making a fast-food pickup without stopping, as he speeds home to
    Fresno, Calif., in his fast car.

    Flipper and Grasshopper. Remember when players were known by their
    urban street names? Apparently, these are less flamboyant times in
    the NFL. Now our heroes are likened to helpful porpoises and athletic
    insects. But forgive these two guys for their astonishing
    ordinariness. They are, by their own admission, both mama’s boys;
    Anderson is as likely to check with ”Mom-Mom” on the relative
    merits of Bible translations (”Just stick with the King James,
    baby,” she tells him) as Ellard is to surprise his mother with an
    Eldorado. There is not much that can be done with mama’s boys. Nor,
    in this case, much that needs to be.

    ”Mama did good,” says Rams quarterback Jim Everett. ”Besides,
    they’ve got great hands.”

    They’ve got great hands, legs, feet, hearts — all the parts
    necessary for world-class pass catching. Last season, Anderson’s
    second and Ellard’s seventh with the team, they combined for 2,528
    yards receiving. The idea that two Ram wideouts could have topped
    1,000 yards in the same season, first time ever on this club, ought
    to alarm the rest of the league, which had its hands full when L.A.
    coach John Robinson was doing his Woody Hayes impression. But now,
    Ellard and Anderson give a team long known for Eric Dickerson running
    off tackle — about 38 times a game — a quick-strike offense.
    Anderson, who caught 44 passes for 1,146 yards, led the NFL with an
    average of 26 yards per catch in ’89. Ellard, with 70 receptions for
    1,382 yards, ranked second with a 19.7 average, a career high.
    These numbers do not suggest blandness to opposing cornerbacks.
    San Francisco 49er Ronnie Lott, one of the best at defending the
    likes of Anderson and Ellard, knows what he’s going to do if Anderson
    ever appears to be duplicating his performance against the New
    Orleans Saints last season, when he caught 15 passes for an
    NFL-record 336 yards. ”I’m going to call timeout, walk off the
    field, out of the stadium and into the parking lot,” says Lott.
    That Ellard and Anderson are causing such excitement in the league
    is not entirely their doing. Robinson, who was known as ”28-sweep”
    when he was producing tailbacks at Southern Cal, and as ”47-gap”
    when he was calling Dickerson’s number at Anaheim, had long ago
    decided the Rams needed to pass in order to win. He just didn’t have
    the passer.

    So Robinson landed Everett — he was the third player chosen in
    the ’86 draft but couldn’t come to terms with the Houston Oilers —
    in one of the biggest trades in club history. And in ’87 he hired
    offensive coordinator Ernie Zampese from San Diego to update the
    Rams’ passing game. Soon the 5 ft. 11 in., 182-pound Ellard, who made
    All-Pro in ’84 as a punt returner, began getting reminders from
    Zampese that he had entered the league as a wide receiver.
    ”This Coach Zampese came into the film room one day,” Ellard
    recalls, ”and said, ‘Henry, you’re an All-Pro receiver. You got a
    chance to catch 60, 70, 80 balls.’ ” In reply, Ellard did his Travis
    Bickle impersonation (”You talkin’ to me? You talkin’ to me? Cause
    there’s no one else in the room.”) and finally said, as gently as he
    could, ”I don’t know, Coach. I just don’t see how that can be
    done.”

    By the ’88 season — with Zampese’s system in place, with
    Everett’s beginning to flower and with Dickerson’s carrying the ball
    for the Indianapolis Colts — Ellard caught a team-record 86 passes.
    The Rams were forever changed, but Robinson is not without a
    lingering regret. ”Part of me still wants Henry returning punts,”
    he says.

    Ellard was 1988’s surprise. Anderson was 1989’s. Although he had
    caught Troy Aikman’s passes at UCLA, which should have qualified him
    for some extra attention in the ’88 draft, Anderson was not
    considered to be much of a pro prospect. One service that rated
    college players for the draft had him 16th among wide receivers,
    behind even Don McPherson, who was a quarterback at Syracuse.
    Robinson claims to have coveted Anderson all along, but the fact is,
    Anderson was the Rams’ fourth pick — and their second at wide
    receiver. ”We thought he’d slide,” Robinson says. ”We didn’t think
    Aaron Cox would.” All the same, Cox, a first-round pick out of
    Arizona State, started ahead of Anderson their rookie year.
    Anderson didn’t much care, though. ”I was in the NFL, just kind
    of amazed to be a professional,” he says. ”Practice every day, no
    school, money in your pocket.” Do you have the picture of a guy
    wandering around Anaheim with a goofy grin on his face? Everett
    remembers Anderson in his rookie year this way: ”A guy learning to
    talk and chew gum at the same time.”

    Last year Anderson worked so hard in the preseason that Zampese
    was using him as an example of team dedication. It was embarrassing,
    of course, but Anderson was well prepared when Cox hurt his hamstring
    in a preseason practice and Flipper became a starter opposite
    Ellard. Still, it was Ellard’s show and Anderson didn’t figure to
    catch too many more balls than the 11 he had pulled in the year
    before. ”Henry was having a great year,” Anderson says, ”and I was
    only catching two, three balls a game.” All the same, he allows,
    ”Most were for big yardage, leading to scoring drives.”

    Anderson certainly wasn’t as reliable as Ellard, whose precision
    routes, in a passing offense where timing is prized, remain a marvel.
    ”Every step has a purpose,” says Everett of Ellard. Anderson is six
    feet and 172 pounds, and his gift seemed to be speed, although it’s a
    speed nobody can agree on. Everett calls it ”a gangly speed.” Steve
    Axman, who was UCLA’s offensive coordinator, says, ”It’s a stiff
    kind of speed.” Lott says: ”Well, it’s speed, but not burner-burner
    speed.”

    Whatever kind of speed, it was not a speed particularly impressive
    to Anderson’s coaches or quarterbacks. And the fact that he was never
    exactly where he should be when he should be did not increase
    anybody’s confidence in him. Yet Everett discovered that Anderson
    somehow got to the ball before anyone else. ”He’s got a Charles
    Barkley attitude,” Everett says. ”Every ball belongs to him.”
    Robinson was impressed with ”the enormous number of catches he made
    with the guy right on him. He has the speed to threaten the defensive
    back but more than that, he can time the ball and go up and get it.”

    The rest of the league got a good example of Anderson’s timing
    last November, when the Rams played the Saints at the Superdome. The
    Friday before, Ellard had injured his hamstring, and the entire
    offense was plunged into doubt. ”I mean, I’d been having some big
    games with Henry,” Everett says. Ellard was, in fact, on a 100-catch
    pace. ”So I’m wondering, Who’s going to pick up the slack. But then
    we got into this rhythm.”

    There hasn’t been so much syncopation in New Orleans since the
    arrival of Dixieland. Anderson, who had caught only 19 passes in the
    first 12 games of the season, says, ”I felt like Michael Jordan
    scoring 60 points out there.”

    Late in the game, Ellard, an interested bystander, came by to tell
    Anderson he was approaching the NFL record for yardage in a game,
    which happened to be held by Henry’s best friend and Fresno neighbor,
    Stephone Paige of the Kansas City Chiefs. ”Some best friend,”
    sniffs Paige, managing a laugh now.

    ”It’s funny,” says Everett, ”but on the final play before the
    winning field goal, Aaron Cox and Flipper are running the exact
    same pattern. I throw to Flipper, he catches. Yet when I looked back
    at film of that game, I see that Aaron was 10 steps ahead of his man
    and Flipper was double-covered. Sometimes you feel like you’re
    throwing a football through the tire of a Hyundai, but that day, with
    Flipper, it felt like throwing a ball through the tire of a John
    Deere tractor.”

    This is no longer the surprising development it once was. Both
    Ellard and Anderson are now, according to the hard-to-please Zampese,
    ”legitimate,” high praise indeed from Zampese. Everett, if he was
    skeptical at first, can now imagine himself throwing the ball into
    the Grand Canyon. Neither Ellard nor Anderson doubted their
    particular destinies. Both were raised to believe they were special,
    although Ellard has fallen somewhat short of the U.S. presidency his
    mother had predicted back in Fresno.

    ”Well, that’s what she says she wanted,” Ellard says, ”but she
    always sensed something about me, always knew I’d end up doing
    something different. She picked up on that and kept me in line, kept
    me levelheaded, as if for a purpose.”

    Perhaps his mother, Margaret, didn’t truly believe Henry would be
    president, but she was positive he wasn’t going to play football.
    None of her boys — there were five (and three sisters) before Henry
    came along — were allowed to play any sports. Sam Lane, Henry’s half
    brother, says his mother’s involvement in The Church of God and
    Christ, ”a holiness church, very strict,” prohibited fun and games.
    ”But when Henry was seven, I saw him do a gainer off this truck
    inner tube we used for a trampoline. I figured he had some athletic
    talent.”

    Lane, 15 years older, began working out with Henry, throwing a
    football to him in the street. Henry definitely had talent. Lane
    talked their mother into letting Henry play a little Pop Warner.
    Margaret, who had divorced Henry’s father, Jeremiah, years before,
    worked a late-night shift as a registered nurse to hold the family
    together, and because she could not rule her kids the way she liked,
    it was successfully argued that Henry’s reckless energy might be more
    safely harnessed at football practice. ”She began to see the sense
    of it,” Lane says.

    Still, it was slow going. Henry remained so small that when the
    neighborhood kids saw him come home from practice, they assumed he
    was the equipment manager. He cried to his mother every day, certain
    he was going to be ”a shrimp” all his life. In fact, though he
    did grow, he wasn’t a starter on a team until his junior year in high
    school.

    Track seemed the more likely sport for him. By the eighth grade he
    could jump his height (5 ft. 6 in.) and long-jump 17 ft. 2 in.. At
    Fresno State, where he specialized in the triple jump, he bounded to
    a world record of 56 ft. 5 1/2 in. into the wind — now do you know
    why he was called Grasshopper? — only to be topped a few days later
    by Willie Banks. Ellard still wonders what he could have achieved if
    he had devoted himself to the event. On the other hand, ever since he
    watched Bob Hayes fly down a sideline, he knew which sport was more
    important to him.

    At the time, hardly anyone who dreamed of playing for the Dallas
    Cowboys thought of going to Fresno State. But it was important to
    Ellard to stay close to his mother. ”Just hooked on my mama,” he
    says. He lived at home, though he tried dormitory life for one
    semester. ”Too crazy,” he says. Fresno State was a wide receiver’s
    delight, and Ellard got all the balls and attention and home cooking
    he needed to ensure his being drafted in 1983 by the pros.

    And once he collected on his first NFL contract, Ellard tried to
    buy his mother a new house. She resisted, so he refurbished the old
    one. (He later talked his mother into moving into the first house he
    bought in Fresno.) Then he bought a new Eldorado and put it into her
    garage. ”Her eyes lit up,” he says happily. (Of course, he owed her
    a car; as a junior at Fresno State he had pointed out a 1972 Gran
    Torino and she had quickly produced the financing for his first
    automobile.) And all the while, he and the rest of Margaret’s
    children conspired to marry their mother off to — guess who? —
    Jeremiah. ”Storybook ending,” Ellard says of the recent remarriage.

    Henry and his wife, Lenora, have a five-year-old son, Henry Jr.,
    and a three-year-old daughter, Whitney, but he has never really left
    his mother. He built a 5,000-square-foot house near his mother’s
    house in Fresno, and during the season he travels the 250 miles
    between there and Anaheim in his customized Mercedes as if it were a
    local commute. He likes fast food and fast cars, his only weaknesses.
    ”Three and a half hours,” he says, of a drive that should take
    longer. ”But I know where the patrol cars hide.” When he’s running
    his routes, nobody can touch him.

    Anderson at least has moved away from home in Paulsboro, N.J. But
    he is no more removed from the influence of ”Mom-Mom” — Helen
    Hamilton, the maternal grandmother who, with her husband, Robert,
    raised him — than Ellard is from his mother. ”She worries about me
    out here,” says Anderson, almost embarrassed. ”She tells me to
    watch out for the women, and when I’m in a bar, to watch my drink.
    It’s still funny when she talks to me about drinking. And Saturday
    nights it’s always, ‘You’re going to be in church tomorrow?’ ”
    Hamilton might well worry about any environment less holy than her
    household, or her Faith Tabernacle Church, where she is pastor to
    ”100 faithfuls.” Imagine her anxiety with Flipper in L.A. ”You do
    hear so much of what goes on out there,” she says.

    But Anderson can adjust to any environment; just check out his
    childhood. Anderson’s mother, Verna, was just 15 when he was born,
    and she had ambitions of going to college. As she pursued them, the
    family settled into an unusual arrangement: Flipper and Verna were
    closer to being brother and sister, while Helen, even then a pastor,
    assumed the role of mother. (Verna is now a devoted fan, who, through
    her job at an airline, has been able to travel to most of Flipper’s
    games.) Anderson’s father, Willie Anderson Sr., who is now a minister
    in nearby Camden, N.J., remains in close contact with the family. And
    Flipper, raised by grandparents in a stew of seven uncles, considers
    it all to be as ordinary as Ozzie and Harriet. For the record, none
    of these people nicknamed him Flipper. That was done by Aunt Pearl, a
    distant cousin of Flipper’s, who thought his crying sounded just like
    the critter then popular on TV.

    Church was less a problem for Anderson than it was for Ellard. His
    grandmother’s charismatic faith allowed sports, providing they could
    be played in the few hours when Sunday school, church services or
    revival meetings weren’t going on. At Paulsboro High, Anderson
    somehow fitted in wrestling, sprinting, basketball and, of course,
    football.

    Anderson has tried to recreate this environment in a subdivision
    of starter homes well beyond the L.A. glamour that his grandmother
    worries about. There isn’t so much church, and only his
    three-year-old daughter, Shardae, by a former girlfriend, visits
    regularly. Otherwise, his life is as wholesome as his grandmother
    could hope for. After workouts, Anderson blocks out the hours from
    noon to two for All My Children and One Life to Live (”Got to see my
    stories,” he says), naps and then plays golf, a sport he has become
    addicted to in just three months. He returns home to cook, using
    recipes he learned in his grandmother’s kitchen.

    Reports of this modest life, relayed back to Paulsboro, reassure
    his grandmother, who can’t help worrying whenever the kids are out of
    sight. And there are so many to keep track of. Hamilton is the
    natural mother of 13 and has raised nine other children who were
    family or somehow wandered into her care. A boy with a ”bad break”
    had dropped by that morning. He may or may not stay; it’s up to him.
    ”I wish I had a house with 20 rooms,” she says. One ”bad boy” she
    took in is now a youth minister. Others, from broken homes, ”kids
    nobody cared about,” have come and gone on to college or become
    successes in one way or another.

    For example, Flipper. ”All my children made me proud,” she says.
    Mama’s boys always do.
    http://www.si.com/vault/1990/09/10/122612/look-ma-great-hands-la-receivers-flipper-anderson-and-henry-ellard-are-mamas-boys

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    Chris Long is no longer a ‘ghost’

    By Jim Thomas
    But as the weeks rolled by, one indication that Long was growing stir crazy came on Twitter. Namely his always interesting tweets on @JOEL9ONE got even more “out there” than usual.

    For example, he has power rankings of flightless birds, months of the year, and sharks.

    I would go with:

    3 Emu
    2 Ostrich
    1 Emperor Penguin

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    in reply to: In Loving Memory of Don Paul #11776
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    Don Paul

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Paul_%28linebacker%29
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    http://www.profootballhof.com/history/2009/9/4/coach-wants-to-see-you/
    …“The Turk” is the NFL’s version of the Grim Reaper. He is the individual assigned by the team who is responsible for tracking down players and explaining to them that they are being released. “Coach wants to see you, and make sure you bring your playbooks” are the famous last words that no player wants to hear come from “The Turk.”

    In years past he was known as “Squeaky Shoes.” Players said they could hear his shoes squeaking down the halls of the dormitories during training camp as he made his way from room to room cutting players that didn’t make the final roster. It wasn’t until the 1950s in Los Angeles that the name “Turk” became synonymous with the man given the distasteful duty of releasing players.

    Don Paul, a former linebacker with the L.A. Rams from 1948-1955, reportedly came up with the name. His coach, Clark Shaughnessy, had a specific method of releasing players. He would send someone in the organization to wake the player in the middle of the night.

    That way the individual would be less apt to get angry since he would still be trying to wake up. The player would be told to grab all of his stuff because the coach wanted to see him.

    The player would then have an exit interview with the coach, turn in his playbook and be gone by breakfast. Shaughnessy’s method made everyone uncomfortable, which one can only assume was part of the reason he used this method. From rookies to seasoned veterans, nobody felt safe. Rams players often went to sleep and when they woke up their roommate was gone. No time to say goodbye, simply out of sight and out of mind. Don began proclaiming “The Turk strikes at night.” The story began floating around the league. Soon everyone was on alert to beware of “The Turk” who lurks in the halls of the teams’ facilities waiting to utter those dreaded words, “Coach wants to see you…and bring your playbook.”
    – See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/history/2009/9/4/coach-wants-to-see-you/#sthash.PkS2UFp3.dpuf
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    in reply to: reporters on Hill starting #11766
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    Among qualifying quarterbacks, only Colin Kaepernick had a higher sack rate than Davis’ 9.3 percent this season.

    It’s higher than 9.3%. PRF lists it as 9.3%, which is doubtless where he gets the number from, but it’s actually 29 sacks on 284 attempts, which is 10.2%.

    Off the top of my head, it looks like 10.2% is the worst sack percentage of any starting Rams qb since they kept the numbers on this. Bradford was at 9.2% in 2011, but that was 2011 and all that implies. Even in the OL Injury Apocalypse of 2007, Bulger was at 8.3%. Kyle Boller in the Third OL Injury Apocalypse of 2009 was at 8.8%.

    10.2% is worse than Clemens behind more or less the same OL, and Clemens had issues handling pressure too.

    The sacks aren’t even the thing that bothered me about AustinD.
    It was the turnovers and the inability to be poised in the pocket.

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    If u want to read some dum
    comments, you can find them
    at the link below.

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    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2014/rams-bench-davis-shaun-hill
    Football Outsiders
    12 Nov 2014
    Rams Bench Davis For Shaun Hill

    Austin Davis’ stint as a starting quarterback in the NFL is over after eight games. The St. Louis Rams have benched the second-year player in favor of veteran Shaun Hill, who started in Week 1 but was knocked out of the game with a thigh injury.

    Davis’ greatest weakness was a propensity to give up sacks. Among qualifying quarterbacks, only Colin Kaepernick had a higher sack rate than Davis’ 9.3 percent this season. Hill struggled with the same issue in the start of his career in San Francisco (8.3 percent sack rate in three seasons), but improved drastically in his four years in Detroit (3.8 percent sack rate).

    Posted by: Vincent Verhei on 12 Nov 2014
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    Even if the Nazis got the A-Bomb first we still would have won.
    Payton Manning on the Rams is like the Nazis with the A-Bomb….

    Well if the Rams are the Nazis
    and Fisher is McClellan
    then, I’d like to see
    the cover of the Media Guide.

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    Not sure how the Rams playing at home is necessarily a big advantage. They tend to drop some of their biggest turds at home. Those fans, God bless ‘em, they have witnessed some horrific football. Yeah, yeah, I know, Seattle. A blind squirrel is likely to stumble across an acorn eventually. Let’s hope they stumble across another one Sunday. I’m not holding my breath, though.

    Switch Peyton to the Rams
    and Hill to Denver — Think
    the rams would win? Yes? No?

    Is it all about the difference
    in QB ?

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    When the schedule came out, I pointed to this game this week as the surprise win in ’14. I’m sticking with it. Denver is on the third game of a 3 game road trip. The Rams’ defense is growing stronger each game. Rams coming off a three game road trip will play better at home, and defeat the Broncos Sunday. After, everyone will be questioning what happened to the Broncos, just like they did when the Rams beat Seattle and SF.

    Good to see you on
    the board I-man.

    Denver’s not in the NFC West
    so the rams cant beat them.
    Its algebra.

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    That wasn’t an “INT”–that is, he didn’t decide to throw to the wrong place with the result being a pick.

    That’s when they found out the quad was bad. He tried to heave it out of bounds but didn’t have his legs so the ball had less power on it.

    I dont remember reading that anywhere.
    Therefore, you must by a vile lying liar.
    Pistols at dawn.

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    Laram

    When your qb says himself “I’ve gotta quit looking at the rush, and keep my eyes downfield” That’s a problem!!

    Hill is a veteran who has seen every blitz you can run IMO.

    He knows how to identify blitzes pre-snap and where the free blitzer is. He can read defenses, and process information quicker.

    In the NFL experience is invaluable, which is what I think the Rams need right now.

    We’ve all seen Austin Davis now and know he’s not the future.

    No reason to keep riding him now.

    Bring on Hill.
    —-
    I’ve shown too many stills and posted game plans of what defenses would do to Davis.

    When Davis played against any type of respectable defense, he folded.

    He has thrown 4 Pick 6’s in the 4th qtr, and 2 fumbles returned for TD’s. That’s -42.

    You can get a back-up off the scrap heap to do that.

    I want to win games, I could care less at this point about trying to see if I have a freaking back-up on the roster.

    I’ll worry about that in the off season, right now as a coach, you better be worried about W’s!!
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    rfl wrote:
    PS. WV, remember when we could be proud of the team? Sure, they lost Conference title games. And they couldn’t match up with the Whiners in their glory. But they always played tough football.

    No one thought SOSAR. We were the Rams. We knew how to defend and run the ball. Even when we lost, we did it with pride.

    Damn. What would it feel like to think that people actually RESPECTED us? Can’t remember.

    I feel the same way.

    Well, it would not surprise me
    in the least if this team was 11-5
    in season FOUR.

    I’m sorry, but I’m a ram fan
    and it had to be said 🙂

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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
    Year FOUR. Its all about year FOUR :)
    Or five. I forget.
    Or six.

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    Yep. It’s like the sardonic slogans developed by war-weary GIs in WW II:

    “Home alive in ’45”
    (Can’t remember the ’46 slogan)
    “Heaven in ’47”
    “Golden Gate in ’48.”

    I think a significant mistake
    had to be the decision to go with
    Jake Long, the former all pro,
    but injured LT. It was a gamble
    that cost them. Jake just
    wasnt an allpro anymore
    and was too inconsistent.

    And i was all for the
    signing at the time.

    Ah well.

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    PS. WV, remember when we could be proud of the team? Sure, they lost Conference title games. And they couldn’t match up with the Whiners in their glory. But they always played tough football.

    No one thought SOSAR. We were the Rams. We knew how to defend and run the ball. Even when we lost, we did it with pride.

    Damn. What would it feel like to think that people actually RESPECTED us? Can’t remember.

    Well, yeah, it sucks, alright.

    But Ram posters are still cool. 🙂

    Its 30 degrees here. Winter
    has arrived.

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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
    The Rams continue to…uh…be
    the Rams.

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    Ain’t it the heart-breaking truth.

    Year FOUR. Its all about year FOUR 🙂
    Or five. I forget.
    Or six.

    How cold is it in Minny?

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    Breaking my retirement to announce this….Jim Thomas broke the story

    What ‘retirement’ ? You CANT retire.

    Alrighty then.

    Now that, THATS been straightened out,
    it’s inter esting news about the
    Return of Mr Hill.

    The Rams continue to…uh…be
    the Rams.
    The last time we saw Mr Hill
    he was throwin a Really bad INT
    as i recall. Before that
    he looked pretty good.

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    Well, i think it was an idiotic question
    from the reporter: “how important is it that you finish games?”
    or somethin like that.
    And then TJ says, well yeah we gotta finish games.

    Might as well ask him: How important is it
    to get more points than the other team?

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    in reply to: Rams News Recap: Nov. 11 #11669
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    Jim Thomas audio — The stadium issue for the first eleven mins, and then football stuff

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/cbs-sports-920am-aeneas-williams-11-10-14-and-jim-thomas-11-11-14-podcasts/

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    in reply to: How many more Wins? #11668
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    HighPlainsDrifter wrote:
    Do the Rams have a running game? Do they have a top defense?

    Yes I think the Rams will have those things.

    Some people are seeing the fog of losing.

    But I think I see the approaching village through that fog.

    Mind you, 1. I could be wrong of course, and 2. so far I don’t see a quarterback in that approaching village. Not yet anyway.

    Nice looking bakery, though.

    f

    Is it an elite bakery
    or only a complimentary Bakery?

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    in reply to: anyone here ever hurt their knee? #11666
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    in reply to: Denver thinking about signing the Cog #11662
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    espn Bronco blog

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos
    “…..While the Raiders do feature Khalil Mack, who has forced his share of holding penalties and has pressured opposing quarterbacks with some regularity, the Raiders are currently last in the league in sacks with eight. And the Rams’ defensive front, at least the defensive front the Rams have showed the past four games — 16 sacks combined, including eight against the San Francisco 49ers — figures to be a notch above.

    With Louis Vasquez at right tackle (his first career start at the position), Manny Ramirez at right guard (where Vasquez was an All-Pro last season) and Will Montgomery getting his first start at center, quarterback Peyton Manning wasn’t sacked and the Broncos rushed for 118 yards.

    But the Raiders were able to affect Manning and disrupt the Broncos for most of the first half Sunday when the Broncos were in three-WR sets. They got enough push to deflect four of Manning’s passes at the line of scrimmage, forced Manning into an intentional grounding penalty and forced two interceptions, one coming when defensive end Justin Tuck deflected the ball and dove to make the interception — all in the first half.

    Including their time with the Titans, Rams head coach Jeff Fisher, assistant head coach Dave McGinnis and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams may have faced Manning more than any coaches in the league. They figure to pound away at the Broncos’ new look, especially to the right side of the offense into Manning’s face as he sets to throw, to see if the group is up to a more significant challenge.
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    Do the Rams have a running game? Do they have a top defense? I’m not convinced that the Rams have the “established” components that will take the load off of a young quarterback. I certainly haven’t seen much this season that would indicate that this is the case. The Rams are one of the youngest teams in the league. They could have a couple more young offensive linemen in front of the quarterback, whoever he might be. I don’t believe that the Rams are in the position of those other teams that you mentioned who started young QBs and thrived. A lot can change between now and then, but as of now, color me dubious. I think a young QB plays like a young QB, and the progress of the team is likely to stagnate for a time while the youngster gets acclimated.

    I dunno what i think of the offense,
    but the defense will be interesting to watch
    if Barron is a solid player and if C.Long
    can come back strong.

    As of now, and if it were me, the draft
    would be all about QB and OLine and LB.

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    in reply to: Is it time for Hill? #11636
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    I think i would try Hill
    at this point. Why not?

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    in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11635
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    With Hill as the starter?Maybe.Davis?Absolutely not.

    I tend to agree with that.
    Austin is a mess right now.
    Dunno what Hill is.

    Course these coaches arent idiots.
    If they think Austin gives them
    a better chance to win than Hill,
    then…..sigh.

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    Look. Everybody around here was worried that I might attempt suicide if the Rams hired Fisher as coach. I made my views known that I consider him to be one of Satan’s minions.

    But.

    It is precisely BECAUSE I believed that Fisher was in league with Satan that I accepted him as coach.

    If it turns out that he isn’t, that he’s just an ordinary evil guy like Colonel Klink,
    then I am going to need professional help.

    Year FOUR. Its all about year FOUR.
    Just keep repeating that. 🙂

    Oh and btw, we’ve been posting together
    since, what, 98 now? — its been an honor.
    Truly. An honor.

    Maybe we’ll see another championship
    before we die.
    Carry on, Z.

    I gotta go. I’m baking
    rice and books.

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    “I love Zack and he knows that. But this is exactly where we differ!
    Zack is in the fetal position, but my head is in the oven! No amount of semantics can change this.”
    Zooey’d For Life

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    They’d probly have to knock Peyton out
    to do it.

    I’m lookin forward to seein how
    the defense plays against the Denver O.
    They might surprise us.

    The Offense is hopeless, now.
    Ah well.

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    Well i hope RFL is wrong about Fisher
    being McClellan. I dunno.

    If the defense really keeps improving
    and gels, i will continue to be pretty optimistic.

    Hard to judge an offense when the franchise QB
    is sitting on the bench. Lets see how the Cards
    look with Carson gone now.

    At any rate, i just enjoy the whole ram-fan thing.
    I just kinda smile and shake my head during years like this.
    It’ll take more than just one decade of futility
    to wear me down 🙂

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    http://www.nellaware.com/blog/george-b-mcclellan-quotes.html

    “Will you pardon me for asking what the horses of your army have done since the battle of Antietam that fatigues anything?”
    –President Abraham Lincoln’s question directed to George B. McClellan, who had excused his lack of action in the fall of 1862 because of exhausted horses. McClellan was removed from command soon afterward.

    “If he had a million men he would swear the enemy has two millions, and then he would sit down in the mud and yell for three.”
    –Edwin M. Stanton, the United States secretary of war commenting on General George B. McClellan. McClellan often overestimated the number of enemy forces opposing him, and so he always needed and wanted more men and more supplies before he could take offensive action.

    It is called the Army of the Potomac, but it is only McClellan’s bodyguard…If McClellan is not using the army, I should like to borrow it for a while.
    –Abraham Lincoln on April 9, 1862, regarding George B. McClellan. McClellan often tested Lincoln’s patience because of his failure to take action against the Confederates. This quote is from a note Lincoln eventually decided not to send.

    General McClellan, if I understand you correctly, before you strike at the Rebels, you want to be sure of plenty of room so you can run in case they strike back.
    –This is from Zachariah Chandler, a member of the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War as he was questioning McClellan regarding his inability to take offensive movement against the Rebels.

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    Ultimately, McClellan failed, and history has not been kind to failures. Historian Richard N. Current wrote that “McClellan had his faults. Though fond of Napoleonic poses, he lacked the fighting blood of Bonaparte. He was slow, overcautious, duped by his spies’ fantastic exaggerations of enemy strength. Yet he had real abilities, particularly in drilling troops and inspiring them with loyalty and trust. To some extent his faults were merely defects of his virtues. He sought to make the most of the Union preponderance in men and resources – to win the war by strategy, not butchery.” 13 McClellan biographer Stephen W. Sears called McClellan “inarguably the worst” Union general to head the Army of the Potomac. 14 James Russell Lowell wrote in 1864 that McClellan possessed “every theoretic qualification, but no ardor, no leap, no inspiration. A defensive general in an earthen redoubt not an ensign to rally enthusiasm and inspire devotion.”15 Historian Kenneth P. Williams called McClellan “a vain and unstable man, with considerable military knowledge, who sat a horse well and wanted to be President.”16 Lincoln aides John G. Nicolay and John Hay determined to destroy McClellan’s reputation in their ten-volume biography of the President. “I have toiled and labored through ten chapters over McClellan,” wrote Hay to Nicolay. “I think I have left the impression of his mutinous imbecility, and I have done it in a perfectly courteous manner…It is of the utmost moment that we should seem fair to him, while…destroying him.”17 …
    http://abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/abraham-lincolns-contemporaries/abraham-lincoln-and-george-b-mcclellan/

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    “…fluke injury to the Rams’ top deep threat resulted in more damage than anticipated.

    “He did just about everything you possibly can to the shoulder,’’ Fisher said. “You talk about rotator cuff, labrum, bicep tendon, just everything. It was a successful surgery, a successful procedure, but he’s going to be immobilized for quite some time.’’
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    Damn.

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    I am not a fan of statements like “I need to learn the game is four quarters long.”

    That is a meaningless statement, to me, whether coaches say it or players.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/13498/austin-davis-not-the-answer-for-rams-at-qb
    Wagoner

    “I didn’t play well enough to win today,” Davis said. “I think the thing I’m learning really quick is you can play well for three and a half quarters but you’ve got to play four. You can’t have a single letdown and right now I’m having those and it’s costing our football team. I’ve got to stay the course, stay strong and keep getting better and eliminate these mistakes, mainly turnovers, that are costing our football team.”

    (On the Peterson INTI just underthrew the ball,” Davis said. “I don’t really have an answer for it. I don’t understand it. We got the look we were looking for, I thought Chris ran a good route and won, the ball didn’t go where I wanted it to.”

    (On Peterson INT number two)”The second one, I just threw it high and it gets tipped around,” Davis said. “Two critical plays, you can’t turn the football over. We knew coming in that was kind of their thing. They kind of live off the turnover and you saw it there at the end.”

    In nine games, Davis’ fourth-quarter passer rating is 68.1 with a QBR of 23.8, which includes a 12.0 and 0.1 on Sunday.
    “It can’t happen,” Davis said. “It’s killing our defense. They’re playing their tails off. For me to have those letdowns, it’s really tough. I’ve got to get a lot better and I can’t do that.”

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    zn wrote:

    Eternal Ramnation wrote:
    When your OL allows 6 sacks we might as well put Hecker back there. Davis is the perfect fit for this horrible OL as he is durable.He won’t win many but when you allow 6 sacks you don’t win anyways.

    Was that all the OL, though? It’s an important question. I put as much of that on Davis. I don’t think he handles the pressure. There are qbs that handle the blitz, and I don’t think that Davis has that yet.

    Yeah, I think most of the sacks could be attributed to him holding the ball too long. He was indecisive.

    How did Greg Robinson look?

    Better than sammy watkins? 🙂

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