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October 19, 2014 at 10:29 am in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought “All it takes is one snowflake" #9910wvParticipant
I’m ready for the blizzard.
Well some of us experts
thot the Rams would have a shot
at the Sack record this year.Fewest sacks in a season:
Chiefs 2008 – Ten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_%28team%29#Sacksw
vOctober 19, 2014 at 10:22 am in reply to: rams-raiders-would-be-los-angeles-bound—-if-not-for-the-nfl #9909wvParticipant“sources say”
I just cant give any weight
to articles like that.w
vwvParticipantI think the Rams will take an early lead…..and will be leading going into halftime……
That’s all I have right now.
I just dont take Seattle nearly
as seriously when they are on the road.I think penalties will decide it 🙂
w
vwvParticipantI am travelling. Right now I’m in the airport.
There will be responses, later. Including, observations and thoughts about football, and blocking.
For now….gotta go.
Enjoy Zooeys wedding to Nittany.
w
vwvParticipanthttp://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12531
critique of ‘Homeland’ tv showwvParticipantseven-billion-talking-monkeys-without-wisdom
plus,
modern-constantly-changing-technology,
equals:
…um….death of the biosphere?w
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October 17, 2014 at 6:17 pm in reply to: Rams and Seahawks game previews: articles, vids, audios, Wagoner, & co. #9825wvParticipantYeah, that’s the one.
bazinga
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vwvParticipantI would love it if it turns out to be a beat down of Seattle.
Thinking about the game this past Monday I am still wondering why they went away from running Tre Mason. He was killing the 49ers.
Grits
I think its just cuz
BrianS and Fisher aim for balance.
Its always about balance, i think.w
vOctober 17, 2014 at 6:06 pm in reply to: I just want to see the team get better as the season progresses #9819wvParticipantEspecially the Defense.
Grits
Well, they can still be 12-4.
I would settle for 9-7. 🙂
w
vwvParticipantOctober 17, 2014 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Seahawks have traded Harvin… + Harvin & the Seattle locker room #9815wvParticipantThis is from January, fwiw:
http://www.businessinsider.com/percy-harvin-trade-seahawks-2014-1
“Harvin trade backfired”w
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October 17, 2014 at 3:57 pm in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought “All it takes is one snowflake" #9799wvParticipanthttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/2234299-why-the-st-louis-rams-pass-rush-has-completely-vanished
Why The Rams pass rush has vanished
In response to the “getting the ball out quickly” theory,
La, says this:
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Laram
Yeah thats a myth, or an excuse that people are using in an attempt to try an explain away the lack of sacks registered to date.“Well teams are getting rid of the ball quickly”.
That means three step drops, right?
Look at the G. Jennings TD in the back of the endzone.
Look at the Dez Bryant play
Look at the T. Williams play
Look at the J. Matthews play (2nd option)
Look at the R. Cooper play
Look at the A. Boldin play
Look at the M. Crabtree play
Look at the B. Lloyd play
Do you think any of those were 3 step drops, get the ball out quickly? They were not.
Its not the offenses getting the ball out quickly, its the Rams.
October 17, 2014 at 3:42 pm in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought “All it takes is one snowflake" #9798wvParticipanthttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/2234299-why-the-st-louis-rams-pass-rush-has-completely-vanished
Why The Rams pass rush has vanishedOctober 17, 2014 at 3:39 pm in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought “All it takes is one snowflake" #9797wvParticipantHe applies about as much pressure as a snowflake. Yeah, Quinn is being held at times. He was last year too but it didn’t keep him from getting 19 sacks. Bottom line is Quinn and the rest of the d-line aren’t performing. I’ve watched Quinn and I’ve seen him get held, but I’ve also seen him get driven past the pocket. I’ve seen him get pushed down, knocked backwards and completely neutralized. All great d-lineman throughout history have been held, but they still managed to excel as pass rushers. I don’t know what Quinn is doing differently this year or if this is about Williams’ defense but something has changed from last year to this and it can’t be explained by being held.
Maybe the OT’s have figured him out in some way.
I dunno.
Or maybe he didnt come in with the same fire
this year.
Or maybe the weddings of zack and zooey’s
relatives have affected him in some way.w
vwvParticipantOk, so, I
am in charge now, right?
Isn’t that how it works?When zack and zooey are gone,
I”m in charge, right?So, i was thinking
we need a Tapir on the Header.
And can we please talk about
something other than football
for a while. Like maybe, goats.
I think we should talk about goats.w
vwvParticipantRandyK on the GSOT celebration
Rams’ Greatest Show Cast Reunites for 15th Anniversary
The St. Louis Rams celebrated the 15th anniversary of their Super Bowl championship Sunday night at Union Station, and could not have put on a better show in honoring The Greatest Show on Turf.
Rams fans were treated to a great setting, terrific food and an entertaining look back at one of the greatest stories in NFL history. More than 50 coaches, staff and players were on hand, and we got a chance to hear from almost all of them.
Isaac BruceIsaac Bruce was one of several Greatest Show members in attendance Sunday
There were several chords that were consistently struck, and they would all be beneficial for the current Rams. Numerous players talked about the family atmosphere fostered by head coach Dick Vermeil. The offensive linemen went out for dinner every week to strengthen their bond. The defensive line talked about how fun their room was – and how you better not be sensitive to be in there. Mike Jones mentored the linebackers, and second-year safety Billy Jenkins Jr. taught Dre Bly how to work like a pro. (For any current Rams who may need to mature as a professional, you can’t go wrong by watching the likes of Chris Long, James Laurinaitis, Kenny Britt and Jake Long for their effort and work ethic.)
But it went beyond position groups; it was a team effort. Running back Justin Watson mentioned that before the regular-season finale in Philadelphia, he looked around the locker room and said to himself, “I love all these guys.” Marshall Faulk, who was as brilliant conversing about that season as he was as a player, mentioned that while he scored the touchdowns and he’s in the Hall, he wouldn’t be if it weren’t for the others.
Kevin Warren, the team’s director of player programs, told a story about how Vermeil would have the different positions over for dinner, and Warren would be at all of them. After about 10 of these dinners, Warren asked Vermeil why he had the same menu every time – salad, potatoes and prime rib. Vermeil said “because I don’t ever want these guys talking to each other about these meals, and have someone think they’re less important than anyone else.” Vermeil was the best at making everyone feel important, and Warren’s story defines his personality in leading an organization.
The other common denominator among the players from that 1999 team was how smart and competitive they were. Faulk says he knew the team was special after its first loss, in Tennessee. The heartbreaking defeat ended a season-opening six-game winning streak. Faulk said the locker room after that game was sullen, with players crying and upset. As he pointed out, everyone loves winning; but it was the obvious pain of losing that made him believe that team was special.
Kurt Warner talked about the intelligence of the offense. It seems amazing, but Mike Martz would go into games with 200 passing plays available. At times Martz would draw up plays, but the team wouldn’t practice them. Warner said on more than one occasion, Martz would call such a play, and it would be run as if it had been practiced a hundred times and wind up in the end zone for a touchdown. And Roland Williams mentioned that on the first touchdown pass of that ’99 season from Warner, he was the fifth option in the pattern.
Everyone associated with that team knew that they were in a special place and time, and that feeling permeated the evening. To a man, they were thankful to the fans, and they remember how loud and crazy the Edward Jones Dome was that season. Isaac Bruce, Bly, Az Hakim, Torry Holt and Vermeil all made a point to talk about the incredible support that team received. They know how unique what they did was. Their ascent wasn’t a run-of-the-mill worst-to-first situation because their team was so talented, and they sustained their excellence for three seasons with a team that already has one offensive Hall of Fame inductee in Faulk, and could have four more in Warner, Holt, Bruce and Orlando Pace.
Although they didn’t appear on stage, it was also great to hear that Georgia Frontiere’s offspring, Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, were on hand representing their mother. Although there was some clear dysfunction in the front office before and after Vermeil’s arrival, Georgia made a great choice in bringing him back to the franchise, and he laid the groundwork for the stretch in which the St. Louis Rams enjoyed their only four winning seasons in a five-year span.
Regardless of where the franchise lands in the next few years, nobody can take away the great times and great memories we have from that run. And at Union Station on Sunday night, the team did a fantastic job of letting us relive our only Super Bowl championship.
[www.101sports.com]
wvParticipantBe that as it may, after the loss at home, there’s no way the Seahawks will fall 1.5 games behind in the division…to the Rams.
Not even if Kurt Warner arrived on a Lightning Bolt with Marshall Faulk and Isaac Bruce by his side…
I guarantee
a Rams win 🙂w
vwvParticipantYeah, good stuff as always.
Weird thing iz — and i’ll repeat
what i wrote earlier —
As GawdAwful as the rams have looked,
change two penalties-that-werent-penalties
(Sims, Cook) and the Rams are 3-2.So, maybe its not quite as
bad as it seems.w
vwvParticipanti was livid on the Cook call and I do believe that it was pivotal. but every call that went against the RAMS you can redflag those against SF too….. I mean J. Jenkins grabbed Crabtree in the 4th and nothing was called.
but until the RAMS get and hit the QB, the RAMS won’t win many games… the Rams lost because Kapernick passed for 343 yards to 8 different receivers who were constantly wide open because there is no pressure on the QB.
Well about 75 of those yards should never
ever have happened.w
vwvParticipantEverything should be up for a challenge. And get rid of the silly *2 challenges per half and if you’re wrong you lose a timeout* nonsense.
Give every coach 4 challenges per game. Whether they get it right or wrong is irrelevant. Once you use up your 4, you’re done. Even if the coach gets all of them right.
That PI call on Cook lost the game. It was at a minimum a 10 point swing, probably a 14 point swing.
Strange season. As bad as the Rams have
looked, if you could ‘correct’ two penalty calls
(Sims, Cook) the rams,
likely would be
be 3-2.w
vwvParticipantSnead wants them to be more
’emotionally intelligent’w
vwvParticipantI might have put some money on the rams if it was 75 lol. But I’d have to think about it.
Heck i guess I’m a dreamer,
cause I’d put money on the Rams
if it was 55. Maybe even 45.w
vwvParticipanthttp://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/In-the-Film-Room-with-Jon-Gruden/02ef564c-89d9-46ec-a04a-517afd373fcb
gruden on AustinD
after eagle gamewvParticipantRams stepped in it last night. Looked like they were either horribly out coached or quit in the second half. Neither shines favorably on Fisher. Another top five pick. I watched Mariotta and Hundley on Saturday – came away feeling meh?
The ode to the 99 team was nice but it seemed like a farewell to St Louis as much as an honor.
So, I’m curious who’s getting paid more to force the Rams to move to LA – the refs, Kroenke, or Fisher.
wv-mom asked me today,
“why are you still a rams fan?”i tried to explain to her
that the Steelers once went 25 years
without a playoff appearance.she just rolled her eyes
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wiki:
“…The Steelers’ history of bad luck changed with the hiring of coach Chuck Noll for the 1969 season. Noll’s most remarkable talent was in his draft selections, taking Hall of Famers “Mean” Joe Greene in 1969, Terry Bradshaw and Mel Blount in 1970, Jack Ham in 1971, Franco Harris in 1972,[13] and finally, in 1974, pulling off the incredible feat of selecting four Hall of Famers in one draft year, Lynn Swann, Jack Lambert, John Stallworth, and Mike Webster.[14] The Pittsburgh Steelers’ 1974 draft was their best ever; no other team has ever drafted four future Hall of Famers in one year, and only very few (including the 1970 Steelers) have drafted two or more in one year…”- This reply was modified 10 years, 1 month ago by wv.
wvParticipantLloyd was burning up the league
before that 80 yarder, i see:Zero receptions in game one.
One reception in game 2
Two in game 3
Three in game four.
And one in the ram game.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LloyBr00.htm
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vwvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PA Ram wrote:</div>
Actually that dog looks like me after most Rams games.Look, breaking under pressure, being mentally weak–I don’t know, maybe. I can’t get inside their heads. But if that’s the problem you’d better draft some new players because I don’t see how you “coach” that out of them. That seems to be a mental make-up kind of thing–you either have mental toughness or you don’t.
Why suddenly this year?
This year they can’t handle anything wrong that goes against them?
How does that happen?
I think that the coaches HAVE to take responsibility–and particularly Greg Williams. He was the one big coaching change and look at the result. From where this defense was–to where they are–and having MORE talent? I’m taking the Occam’s razor approach and asking–what has changed? Greg Williams. The result is–terrible. Now you can say–new scheme, players aren’t adjusting and all that. But I don’t buy it. If they can’t execute the new scheme for whatever reason–find one they can.
And after the game, Ray Lewis and some of the other players were dumbfounded at the scheme on that 80 yard touchdown. They called it “high school football”. Lewis was incredulous they would have been set up like that and even in his comments after the game, Fisher said it was a mistake.
That’s a glaring one.
How many foul-ups or “high school football” moments aren’t noticed?
I am thoroughly disgusted with Greg Williams. I believe it was a mistake to bring him in and I’d be happy if he took his wonderful reputation and moved on to the next team.
You can’t coach them out of it and it takes too long to draft new players.
Like all teams that gain confidence, you can only do one thing…win a “tide-turning” game.
I don’t know how many times I have watched “America’s Game,” the show that does an hour long take on great seasons by superbowl winning teams, and heard this: xyz game turned it around, after that we were playing with real confidence.
It’s the only way. Hiring a new coach won’t change it. Waiting to develop new draftees won’t change it. Fisher doing this or that or one thing or another won’t change it.
Ok, then I’m in favor
of winning a
tide-turning game.w
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wvParticipantwv wrote:
21Dog wrote:
wv wrote:
I have not seen the game yet,
but did 500 year-old Brandon Lloyd
actually outrun JJ ?
Is Lloyd faster than JJ?w
vWord to the wise (I’m giving you credit for wisdom, wv).
Don’t watch it.
Brutal. Inexcusable.
Watched the replay of it.
O dear.
One of the worst regular-season
plays I’ve seen from a ram CB
in my 40+ years of watching ram
football.JJ loves the big plays
dont he.w
vYep.
Lloyd is slow. We knew that when he was a Ram and is older now. Jenkins is much faster.
Jenkins made a bigtime, primetime, big circus mistake. He peeked in the backfield with one on one coverage late in a half.
You don’t do that.
ESPN tried to make it about the coverage, so there was supposed to be safety help.
No…Jenkins is SUPPOSED TO KNOW not to do that.
He knows he’s supposed to know that. That’s why he’s hiding under the table like a cowering dog.
Maybe they draft a CB high
next year.w
vwvParticipantIt’s bad. I’m sure they can improve but I just haven’t seen anything that makes me think they will. I agree the team lacks mental toughness. You can almost feel the team giving up at times. I knew the game was over when SF got the TD right before the half. It wasn’t just a momentum swing. It was over.
I hope things improve but I have no expectations they will.
Think they can beat
Seattle in St.Louis?I do.
w
vwvParticipantActually that dog looks like me after most Rams games.
Look, breaking under pressure, being mentally weak–I don’t know, maybe. I can’t get inside their heads. But if that’s the problem you’d better draft some new players because I don’t see how you “coach” that out of them. That seems to be a mental make-up kind of thing–you either have mental toughness or you don’t.
Why suddenly this year?
This year they can’t handle anything wrong that goes against them?
How does that happen?
I think that the coaches HAVE to take responsibility–and particularly Greg Williams. He was the one big coaching change and look at the result. From where this defense was–to where they are–and having MORE talent? I’m taking the Occam’s razor approach and asking–what has changed? Greg Williams. The result is–terrible. Now you can say–new scheme, players aren’t adjusting and all that. But I don’t buy it. If they can’t execute the new scheme for whatever reason–find one they can.
And after the game, Ray Lewis and some of the other players were dumbfounded at the scheme on that 80 yard touchdown. They called it “high school football”. Lewis was incredulous they would have been set up like that and even in his comments after the game, Fisher said it was a mistake.
That’s a glaring one.
How many foul-ups or “high school football” moments aren’t noticed?
I am thoroughly disgusted with Greg Williams. I believe it was a mistake to bring him in and I’d be happy if he took his wonderful reputation and moved on to the next team.
Well, when Spags hired McD
it was an utter disaster at first
but it got better as the season went
along didnt it?Perhaps — I’m not predicting just hoping —
but perhaps the Ram players will get
better as they become more familiar
with GW’s approach. I dunno.If not, they get to draft
a top three player.Sigh.
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