I for one am quite pleased.

I hated the idea of the
Olinemen, TE’s, RBs, WRs, and QBs having to learn
a New System.

Geez, its year four. Fer cryin out loud
no more system changes.

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zn wrote:

I don’t really understand how you can think there’s no contract penalty
when he’s been playing for less than a million and now he’ll be playing
for fifteen million. I mean, thats a fourteen million dollar
penalty they way i look at it. Thats fourteen million dollars
they would have been able to spend on other players and now they cant.
Maybe this is just semantics, i dunno.

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Because they have the cap space in 2015 and 2016 to handle it, and only a couple of major guys (Okung, Mebane) coming up in 2016 but that’s it.

It may be more money than before for Wilson, but they planned around it.

The point is they’re not going to lose anyone.

Yes it’s also true they can’t add anyone in terms of FAs, but…go through their roster and name their FAs.

The next 2 years also means trades and/or draft picks, and they’re good at both, and both are cheap.

Ok, I agree they planned for RW’s big raise, and they
have been brilliant with their personnel choices and personnel management.

But Wilson has been playing for peanuts and there aint
no more huge QB-discount. 15 million means they cant
add two New excellent players.

Should be very interesting to see what kind of team
the Seahawks put on the field next year. Does
a gutwrenching Super Bowl loss really affect
a team the next season? I dunno.

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Dak wrote:

wv wrote:
jim, i was ready Bernies article about Faulk comments about the team and owner. I laugh at Bernies little rant against faulk…. st louis signed the contract to the dome and have known about the contract and did nothing till the last minute only after the ruling came out that st louis was in the wrong… dang… what a surprise they have to honor there part of the deal… Ive been a ram fan for 45 years and haven’t missed a game on tv since 1997. Hate to see them move but business is business and st louis did business poorly…. thanks for the chats and keeping us up on things.. we all appreciate it
simdoc 4:38 PM*

One, you have to go through the arbitration process. Two, Peacock has been working on this behind the scenes for well over a year. Three, LA has done next to nothing for 20 years to get a stadium. Four, San Diego has been at it for 15 years. I could go on. So you’re telling me St. Louis gets a year, a year and a half to meet Stan Kroenke’s schedule? Not the league’s schedule. But Stan Kroenke’s? Sorry. No sale. Obviously, Faulk’s entitled to his opinion, but he should stick to his area of expertise: the game of football.
jthomas 4:42 PM*
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Its interesting how people have different ideas about
time-frames. JT sets the relevant time frame at “a year or a year and a half”.
But couldnt you argue that for years and years, the St.Louis folks have known this
issue was coming. And they did nothing?

I think both sides have points.

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I really do think that when you’re talking about committing public funds, you go through the entire process. The CVC put together a plan to improve the Ed, which was the first step. I guess people can call that nothing, but it did cost money and effort to come up with the design. Then, they studied the Rams’ counter-proposal. There was a back-and-forth process that lately has been STL going forth, and SK giving nothing back.

During this entire process, SK has been more interested in L.A., apparently. So, while the Rams’ owner expects public aid for the project in STL, he’s moving forward with private money on an L.A. project. Then, SK is floating out there that he did indeed wait for STL’s cooperation but got bored and moved on — you know, trying to change the narrative. His actions, however, were of a man who avoided cooperation because he was looking to the West Coast.

I dunno Dak. The CVC dome-improvement plan was never ever
going to be taken seriously by Kroenke and they
should have known that. If they wanted to keep the Rams
they were gonna have to build a nice new stadium. Why didnt
the Peacock folks start working on this four years ago?

I mean thats a legitimate question, i think. A fair
question, i think.

I think the Peacock side also has valid
points and fair questions too.

But since both sides have reasonable points
and arguments — seems to me thats gonna tilt
things toward allowing the billionaire to move
the team, if thats what he wants to do.

There’s no ‘fairness’ in any of this btw 🙂
The move from LA wasn’t ‘fair’ and a move
back to LA wouldnt be ‘fair’. …call me a nihilist.

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Everyday
is my birthday.

Cake, please.

And cheese-danish.

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The actual catch by Butler is the most impressive
thing to me. He kinda twisted his body and threw
himself at the WR and took the Jolt,
and somehow still kept his eyes on the ball
and latched onto it.

One of the best football plays of the year, regardless
of the time and place.

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PA Ram wrote:

Much better than last year.

Good game.
Actually enjoyed the halftime show and the dancing sharks.
Not big on the commercials(except for The Brady Bunch and Viagra car).
Did not stay to see Kurt hand the trophy to the Pats.
No controversial calls that decided things–that was good.
I hope the Rams get back again in my lifetime.

The Dancing Sharks were fine,
but no way the Brady Bunch should have been
on there — Partridge Family should
have been called. Only three things
can happen when you bring in the Brady Bunch
and two of them are bad.
Lets face it,
it was a bad call. I dont
even understand how they could
make a call like that.

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Winnbrad wrote:

I have no problem with the call by Carroll. If it works, he’s hailed as a genius. If it doesn’t, then Carroll is probably expecting, at worst, an incompletion, which stops the clock.

Very low chance of a sack on that type of play, and if there is one, Seattle still has one time out left.

And he still has two chances left to score.

It was just one of those crazy football plays. We’ve all seen hundreds of them. Heck, there was one two plays before that, with the wacky catch.

Tough break for Seattle. Great play by the NE corner.

I remember a game between the Purple Gang
and the Rams.

Roman ran the ball three straight times at the one yard
line. Maybe it was four, i forget — stoned every time.

I got no problem with a pass down there
on second down.

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Awesome defensive play.
I dont see how anyone could
blame the WR in any way, on that.

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TSRF wrote:

I think I’ve been converted…

I hated Hockey growing up, especially trying to watch it on a black and white TV that needed rabbit-ear adjustments…
I couldn’t see the damned puck.
Now, with HDTV, its all there in living colour.
I guess it helps that I work with a bunch of rabid Bruins fans, and since I’m from Western CT and have always considered myself a Rangers fan by proximity, it got to the point that I had to watch games if I wanted to trash talk.
And you know what, I like it.
In my opinion, your average hockey player is much more relatable than your average NFL player.
I’ve watched a lot of football this season, 0 NBA (if anything, I’m a Knicks fan so I got nothing to watch…), and a lot of Rangers Hockey.
In years past, I had nothing to watch post Super Bowl. This year, I’m going to be following the Rangers’ playoff hunt.

I had an Art class back in 1970. The teacher told us to
bring in a picture of someone to draw. I was gonna bring
in a picture of Deacon Jones, but i forgot it at home.
So i had to scrounge around the classroom for a picture of
someone to draw — I found a Sports Illustrated cover
with Bobby Orr on it. So, i drew Orr, and got an “A”.

Thats my Hockey story.

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I keep reading reporters say nothing was wrong with Stacy,
and that Tre and Benny just surpassed him, but
I dunno. It sure seemed like Stacy wasnt quite
the same back last year. He seemed a bit off to me.
Like maybe he was injured.

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zn wrote:

Do you think it will affect
the play on the field?

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It could. But remember, JF has been through this before, AND he has a knack for creating “us against them” environments. So, he could make it the one team in existence that thrives off of not having a complete home field advantage.

Well, if it becomes obvious the rams are lame-ducks in St.Louis
and the fans stop showin up….can we still give the fans a nickname?
Like Seattle’s “12th Man” thing — ? What could we call them?

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zn wrote:

There’s a lot of tip-toe-ing and ‘balancing of interests’
talk going on now.
(and there’s lots to balance — San Diego,
Oakland, St.Louis, LA, the NFL, season ticket sales, etc etc)

Exactly WHEN are we gonna know something concrete?
Is there a time-table here? Some dates
where something has to be decided?
Or is everyone going to be in limbo
all during the offseason and season?

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There is no set in advance target date in 2015 that would change anything.

Doesn’t mean things won’t change or clarify or whatever…but there is no set in advance time it must happen by.

well damn

weird team, weird year

Do you think it will affect
the play on the field?

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InvaderRam wrote:

yeah. the rams should be publicly owned. screw these billionaire owners.

So, u are calling for revolution,
then?
“Free the Rams!” ?

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Former Rams Players, Coach Sound Off on Relocation Talk
Brendan Marks posted on January 30, 2015 17:25

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CBS Sports 920’s Joe Roderick and Jay Randolph Jr. were in Arizona this week for Super Bowl XLIX and spoke to several former Rams players and coach Dick Vermeil.

The subject of the possibility of the Rams leaving St. Louis came up repeatedly, and we wanted to share each of their thoughts on the topic. Feel free to click on each person’s name to listen to their complete interview.

Marshall Faulk: “I haven’t spoke on this in this manner yet, but I’m going to say it. I’m disappointed that the powers to be in the city of St. Louis waited until now to make a proposal,” Faulk told Joe Roderick and Jay Randolph Jr. “If I was (Rams owner Stan Kroenke), I’d be just as upset. Why do you wait so long? And now we’re looking at this man like ‘oh please don’t take your team.’ It’s a business. That’s how the Rams got there.”

Kurt Warner: “I’m a St. Louis guy and being that the St. Louis Rams are synonymous with a huge part of my history, I want the Rams to stay in St. Louis. I’m also realistic and understand the connection to LA. I understand how it’s a natural fit to take the Rams back there because when we were going good in St. Louis and we’d go out to LA, we’d have a million fans there that followed us. If you’re a player that played in the history of St. Louis, it’d be a shame if a team’s not in St. Louis. If you’re one of those fans that have been a part of that whole thing and, great sports town, to not have a team, I think that’s a travesty too. I just believe and hope that they stay in St. Louis. It’s unfortunate the way it looks like it’s going.”

Torry Holt: “Selfishly I would love to see the team stay in St. Louis. We got some good history there. The city loves the Rams. They show us so much love when we go back. But I understand it’s a business. For Kroenke and a lot of these owners it’s the bottom line. I think moving to Los Angeles for obvious reasons makes sense to him. It’ll be interesting to see how that whole process shakes out. It won’t be an easy process. I know on my Twitter timeline the fans are going crazy.”

Orlando Pace: “Anytime you get to where you win a Super Bowl in the community, all of your football memories are in St. Louis, it means something. You don’t want to be the St. Louis (football) Cardinals, who are really without a home. When we get together we want to be able to come back to St. Louis, celebrate as a team and do it in the community we won. I think everyone who played in St. Louis probably feels the same way.”

Dick Vermeil: I would like to see them stay. I think Stan Kroenke will do what’s best for the team as a business and a team. To me that’s what they are now. If he sees it’s not going to be the best thing for the organization as a company, then they’ll go back there. I hope he doesn’t.

Jack Youngblood: “I didn’t like (former Rams owner Georgia Frontierre) when she moved it to St. Louis. I understood why. I totally bought into that. The thing of the stadium is the big issue. To have a house that can fascilitate a franchise and a Super Bowl. I see where Kroenke is going…I think the govenor of Missouri should be given at least a chance to listen to what he wants to do.” (Youngblood talks more about St. Louis stadium situation)

Adam Archuleta: “I grew up here in the desert…so when I went to St. louis it was a bit of a culture shock. And I got to be honest I didn’t like it, I didn’t enjoy it. But then as the years went on and especially when I left I started to say, ‘OK, that’s what was special about St. Louis, that is a really cool, really unique town.’ I wish I would’ve taken more advantage of playing there quite honestly. I think St. Louis is a great town. I think if the Rams do move to Los Angeles it would be unfortunate. I think the fans in St. Louis are great fans. I think they deserve a football team. But I also undertand the economic part of it as well. When you’re a business owner…if the city can’t compete…I do understand where they’re coming from. St. Louis certainly deserves a football team and they’re some of the best fans I’ve been a part of.”