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  • #11640
    zn
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    I keep reading around how some fans think with the knee thing, Bradford can’t take a hit.

    Means they don’t understand knee injuries.

    Now this does not mean he can come back or can’t. It has nothing to do with that. It just has to do with how you can hurt a knee.

    Those who know all this, know that hyper-extended knees do not need to be hit.

    They come from planting the leg awkwardly with the weight and pressure working the wrong direction.

    If that sounds abstract, believe me, it ain’t. I have hyper-extended my knees several times, just fortunately not severely enough to tear an ACL doing it.

    One time, I was 17, driving along on a weathery day, and I saw this car had gone off a country road near my house so I stopped to help others who had also stopped. We were going to push him out of a muddy field back on to the road. I was 17. I turned my leg wrong while pushing and the pain was like nothing I had ever gone through (though I have had it again a couple of times since). My knee swole up, I could barely walk. I’ve had kidney stones and if I had to choose between the 2, I would take the stones again, not the knee. If you have never gone through it, you have no idea.

    Nothing hit my knee. It didn’t hit anything.

    That’s what happened to Bradford. Awkward angle, hyper-extension, a tear, and those who know about knees know, it has nothing to do with being hit. It’s just a freak thing.

    This idea that someone who hyper-extends a knee can’t take a hit is a complete crock and is just based on not understanding anything about this.

    You bend it a certain way awkwardly and the body twists wrong in relation to it, and zap–your knee goes. And it hurts like you would not believe. The 2nd time the lineman was hanging on him, the leg just bent wrong.

    Most recent knee for me was in the spring. I was sawing wood with a chainsaw. I had heavy protective boots on, gloves, goggles, and just turned wrong at one point. My leg turned, the boot was sunk in the mud and didn’t turn. This time it didn’t hurt till later. Doctor said I had a bruised meniscus. I was on a cane for a couple of weeks and had to pick my angles in a choosy way to sleep. It felt bad moving around but this time it was nothing like the times when I was young and twisted it wrong followed immediately by “you don’t want to go there” level pain.

    So I get very impatient with the types who say “well he didn’t get hit hard.” Cause. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Being. Hit.

    #11644
    PA Ram
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    So Bradford merely needs to walk on the field next year and he can crumble? Is that what you’re saying?

    I not only have to hold my breath when he’s hit but when he takes an awkward step? How much breath do you think I have?

    Well, let’s hope for the best–because they need him to come back invincible.

    And now–my knee story:

    5oth birthday…I walk down the stairs, take a step into the living room and suddenly sharp pain in my knee, into my thigh.

    My knee felt like it sort of could have locked the wrong way, I don’t know.

    Anyway..I could take a step, two steps, three steps, four steps and suddenly without warning there it is…boom!

    Turns out that my knee was not “tracking” properly. Don’t know why or what set that off but it really sucked because I became scared to walk. It was like Russian Roulette with my knee. That step’s okay, that ones okay…boom!

    The doctor told me that that problem was usually taken care of with physical therapy. I didn’t believe it. But I gotta say–it worked. But the mental part of it was weird for me…worried about each step.

    Bradford obviously has a much worse situation but I have to wonder if the mental part isn’t just as difficult as the physical part.

    Hopefully he can come back because I see no other great options.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #11645
    zn
    Moderator

    Sounds bad PA. But was it one of those “hurts like you would not believe” hyper-extension things?

    #11651
    Eternal Ramnation
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    I keep reading around how some fans think with the knee thing, Bradford can’t take a hit.

    Means they don’t understand knee injuries.

    Now this does not mean he can come back or can’t. It has nothing to do with that. It just has to do with how you can hurt a knee.

    Those who know all this, know that hyper-extended knees do not need to be hit.

    They come from planting the leg awkwardly with the weight and pressure working the wrong direction.

    If that sounds abstract, believe me, it ain’t. I have hyper-extended my knees several times, just fortunately not severely enough to tear an ACL doing it.

    One time, I was 17, driving along on a weathery day, and I saw this car had gone off a country road near my house so I stopped to help others who had also stopped. We were going to push him out of a muddy field back on to the road. I was 17. I turned my leg wrong while pushing and the pain was like nothing I had ever gone through (though I have had it again a couple of times since). My knee swole up, I could barely walk. I’ve had kidney stones and if I had to choose between the 2, I would take the stones again, not the knee. If you have never gone through it, you have no idea.

    Nothing hit my knee. It didn’t hit anything.

    That’s what happened to Bradford. Awkward angle, hyper-extension, a tear, and those who know about knees know, it has nothing to do with being hit. It’s just a freak thing.

    This idea that someone who hyper-extends a knee can’t take a hit is a complete crock and is just based on not understanding anything about this.

    You bend it a certain way awkwardly and the body twists wrong in relation to it, and zap–your knee goes. And it hurts like you would not believe. The 2nd time the lineman was hanging on him, the leg just bent wrong.

    Most recent knee for me was in the spring. I was sawing wood with a chainsaw. I had heavy protective boots on, gloves, goggles, and just turned wrong at one point. My leg turned, the boot was sunk in the mud and didn’t turn. This time it didn’t hurt till later. Doctor said I had a bruised meniscus. I was on a cane for a couple of weeks and had to pick my angles in a choosy way to sleep. It felt bad moving around but this time it was nothing like the times when I was young and twisted it wrong followed immediately by “you don’t want to go there” level pain.

    So I get very impatient with the types who say “well he didn’t get hit hard.” Cause. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Being. Hit.

    He didn’t get hit at all on the first tear. That said, it doesn’t mean he can take a hit either,he had a concussion shoulder twice finger ankle and now the knee twice. That kind of history doesn’t exactly scream durability. He’s played in 49 games out of what is a possible 80 at the end of this season. Is not being able to run out of bounds on your own really better? If he can’t get on the field what difference does it make

    #11652
    zn
    Moderator

    He didn’t get hit at all on the first tear. That said, it doesn’t mean he can take a hit either,he had a concussion shoulder twice finger ankle and now the knee twice. That kind of history doesn’t exactly scream durability. He’s played in 49 games out of what is a possible 80 at the end of this season. Is not being able to run out of bounds on your own really better? If he can’t get on the field what difference does it make

    Well, I know a lot of people feel that way. And I raised a lot of the durability stuff myself before the draft in 2010.

    But, to me, in this thread, that’s just a separate topic.

    To me, the issue was knees. Bradford just made the issue common among Rams fans.

    The first knee, too, btw, was exactly the kind of hyperextension I was talking about. He just planted wrong and his weight was awkward. The first hit? Yes it is true you simply don’t need to get hit to tear up a knee. Bending it the wrong with the wrong torsion with weight on it? That will do it. I personally hyperextended a knee once while just stepping wrong on a staircase. (That was a bad one too, though again I never tore anything fortunately.) It’s just a freak thing that happens to humans.

    That can happen to anyone. Anyway. It’s just not true that you need to be hit or get your foot caught to real mess up a knee. It often comes from exactly what I describe.

    Now as for Bradford’s durability, and his future, and so on? Yes there’s a lot to discuss there.

    Just right here for me personally, the only thing I was talking about was–knee injuries. In general.

    #11653
    HighPlainsDrifter
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    Just look at Carson Palmer’s knee injury Sunday. He was being grabbed in the shoulder area, but his knee wasn’t hit. His leg wasn’t hit. It just buckled. We’ve seen it plenty of times before. I don’t understand how these things happen, sometimes it’s just an awkward step. Does it mean that a knee joint that is injured without contact is fragile? I haven’t the slightest clue. I fear for Bradford’s career. I think that having to draft a quarterback will set the team’s building efforts back at least a couple of years. I don’t relish the thought of a rookie quarterback. But I know that depending on Bradford’s twice injured knee is an enormous gamble. I’d say that the Rams are between a rock and a hard place with their quarterback position.

    #11656
    zn
    Moderator

    I think that having to draft a quarterback will set the team’s building efforts back at least a couple of years. I don’t relish the thought of a rookie quarterback. But I know that depending on Bradford’s twice injured knee is an enormous gamble. I’d say that the Rams are between a rock and a hard place with their quarterback position.

    Howdy. I respond to this here, if you’re interested–>

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/how-many-more-wins/#post-11655

    #11659
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Just look at Carson Palmer’s knee injury Sunday. He was being grabbed in the shoulder area, but his knee wasn’t hit. His leg wasn’t hit. It just buckled. We’ve seen it plenty of times before. I don’t understand how these things happen, sometimes it’s just an awkward step. Does it mean that a knee joint that is injured without contact is fragile? I haven’t the slightest clue. I fear for Bradford’s career. I think that having to draft a quarterback will set the team’s building efforts back at least a couple of years. I don’t relish the thought of a rookie quarterback. But I know that depending on Bradford’s twice injured knee is an enormous gamble. I’d say that the Rams are between a rock and a hard place with their quarterback position.

    Palmer had a devastating knee injury before. It happened years ago in the playoffs when he played for the Bengals. It was a controversial hit – a defender purposely went in low at his knee. This happened after Palmer had finally “arrived” and was living up to his pre-draft hype. After that his career was never the same until this season in Arizona. He was finally back at the top of his game and *boom* – it happens again. I don’t know what he did to anger the football gods, but…

    #11664
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Sounds bad PA. But was it one of those “hurts like you would not believe” hyper-extension things?

    I never had a hyperextended knee so I can’t compare pain. Compared to my kidney stones, the stones were worse but it was two different things. The knee thing was frustrating. You’re going through life and every so often someone is going to stick something sharp into you–but you don’t know when. It’s a weird mental thing.

    It’s a strange feeling, like your knee doesn’t want to work anymore.

    I was walking with my leg straight a lot–a limp.

    Anyway–it’s okay now. Fingers crossed. And the thing is, this sort of thing can just happen. I didn’t really DO anything to my knee.

    http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/knee-pain/tc/patellar-tracking-disorder-topic-overview

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by PA Ram.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #11666
    wv
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