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  • in reply to: Browns really want Mariotta #23352
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    Sure, it would be great…..until the North Korean team wants to re-locate to Guam

    Being a ram fan means
    falling upon many
    thorns.

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    —
    “I fall upon the thorns of life, I bleed. And then? I fall upon the thorns of life, I bleed. And what next? I get laid, I take a short holiday, but very soon after I fall upon those same thorns with gratification in pain, or suffering in joy – who knows what the mixture is! What good, what lasting good is there in me? Is there nothing else between birth and death but what I can get out of this perversity – only a favorable balance of disorderly emotions? No freedom? Only impulses? And what about all the good I have in my heart – does it mean anything? Is it simply a joke? A false hope that makes a man feel the illusion of worth? And so he goes on with his struggles. But this good is no phony. I know it isn’t. I swear it.”
    ― Saul Bellow Herzog

    in reply to: Browns really want Mariotta #23343
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    They’d probly have to add a no.2 pick as well,
    I would think.

    I dont really get the Mariota love, btw.
    I’ve never understood it.

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    Yeah, I don’t think a single one of these guys has produced a damn thing in the NFL.

    Ya know, if you dont like college players,
    maybe you should just move to North Korea.

    Btw, i wonder if the NFL would expand
    into North Korea if the money was right.

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    Alyoshamucci — 4/29/15 mock draft

    So I’m going to do the first round, then our 6 picks. Hopefully Ill remember to pick the same person for us, lol.

    Going to note that I believe will will have trade down options in the second maybe even more rich than in the first. I am also going to honor a few trades that I simply can’t live without. Bears have too many needs to address WR at 7 and not take a 3rd from Cleveland. This is if I’m GM.

    Rams
    1) Kevin White WR
    2) Preston Smith DE
    3) Arie Kuandjio OG
    4) Max Garcia OC
    6) Matt Jones RB
    7) Zack Vigil ILB

    UDFA targets
    Shane Carden, Chris Slade OG, Brandon Vitabile OC, any Auburn DT that slides (or SEC, Orr, Philon and Surratt included), Jordan Taylor, Geremy Davis, Cam Worthy, Jeff Prater …

    1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jameis Winston
    2. Tennessee Titans – Marcus Mariota
    3. Jacksonville Jaguars – L Williams
    4. Oakland Raiders – D Fowler
    5. Washington Redskins – Vic Beasley
    6. New York Jets – Bud Dupree
    7. Cleveland Browns via Bears – Amari Cooper
    8. Atlanta Falcons – Shane Ray (of the two pot smokers, the one that can keep weight on)
    9. New York Giants – Brandon Scherff
    10. St. Louis Rams – Kevin White (size speed athlete)
    11. Minnesota Vikings – Devante Parker (too good to pass up teddy’s old roommate in case Wallace falls flat)
    12. Chicago Bears – Jordan Phillips (Fox takes the player with the upside that he can coach)
    13. New Orleans Saints – Landon Collins (aggression on the back end)
    14. Miami Dolphins – Trae Waynes
    15. Steelers for a 4th (9ers wanted out) – Randy Gregory
    16. Houston Texans – Breshad Perriman
    17. San Diego Chargers – Todd Gurley
    18. Kansas City Chiefs – La’el Collins
    19. Cleveland Browns – Arik Armstead
    20. Philadelphia Eagles – Marcus Peters
    21. Cincinnati Bengals – Ereck Flowers
    22. San Francisco 49ers – Stephone Anthony (I expect a run on ILBs, too many teams need them)
    23. Detroit Lions – Melvin Gordon
    24. Arizona Cardinals – Eric Kendricks (Larry Foote is 75 years old)
    25. Carolina Panthers – Jake Fisher
    26. Baltimore Ravens – Kevin Johnson
    27. Dallas Cowboys – Odighizuwa
    28. Denver Broncos – Danny Shelton
    29. Indianapolis Colts – Cam Erving
    30. Green Bay Packers – Bernardrick Mckinney
    31. New Orleans Saints – Eli Harold
    32. New England Patriots – Dorial Green Beckham

    I have to say, that it’s been a really long time since I didn’t even know what positions we were narrowed down to going into the draft, and this is the least confident I have been with a mock. I think having Reynolds and possibly Barksdale coming back gives us some room to manuever. I also believe there’s a run on ILBs late round 1 early round 2. Those guys that don’t share reps and manage the defense are tough to come by. The top 5 look pretty secure to me, after that there could be a trade every pick.
    The WRs and RBs should come off in a flurry in round 2.

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    in reply to: Browns really want Mariotta #23339
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    SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 18m18 minutes ago
    Browns offer two 1st-round picks to Titans for No. 2 overall selection, where they would plan to take Marcus Mariota. (via @PatMcManamon)

    They’d probly have to add a no.2 pick as well,
    I would think.

    I dont really get the Mariota love, btw.
    I’ve never understood it.

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    It’s appropriate to ask this before the draft.

    Some people I think are disheartened because of the move.

    Some are getting worn down by Fisher—they have doubts about him.

    Some (like me) are still the same optimistic idiots they’ve always been every other off-season.

    I think they are a solid healthy OLine
    away from double-digit wins
    and playoffs.

    All the other Units are
    good enough, i think.

    One unit left.
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    But that implies you have an emotional interest running fairly strong. (Me too.) But we’re nomads. It’s going to be a strange season in many respects. But a lot of us are still invested. Some? Not as much, maybe.

    So that’s a fair description on my part? You’re still chugging along, interested as usual? Plus (also like me) you see the potential for good things….

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    Oh, i get your question now. I misread it, i think.
    Sure, I am as invested as ever. A move to LA
    wouldnt change my feelings.

    Heck I followed this team for years with
    Georgia and Shaw and Zygmunt at the helm,
    and I couldnt stand them. I mean, i loathed
    them. Now, i loath Kroenke. So it goes.

    For me, the ‘team’ is the players and coaches.
    I just try not to vomit when I think of
    the Owners and corporate PR-suits.

    The Rams are the Horns to me.
    Which includes the blue and white Merlin
    and the blue and yellow Youngblood,
    and the gold and blue Warner.

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    I think they are a solid healthy OLine
    away from double-digit wins
    and playoffs.

    All the other Units are
    good enough, i think.

    One unit left.
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    in reply to: The OL on the roster now (and counting) #23316
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    from JT’s article. Fisher on the oline:
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    Fisher added: “We’ve got some good young players on our roster, that you’ve not seen play or haven’t played very much. But we’re developing players currently on our roster. So we feel good about it.”

    in reply to: stadium wars #23277
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    I think I’m mildly offended.

    Well, you know, i still remember fans
    like Grits getting ‘jobbed’ back in 95 when
    Madame Ram and John Shaw left the LA fans
    high and dry.

    And now it might happen to St.Louis fans
    (for the 2nd time).

    There’s lots to be offended
    about in this corporate
    money-making mess.

    In a weird post-modern-way
    itz better to be a Nomad.

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    Just a quote i saw.
    From an article i skimmed.
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25164871/there-are-only-five-cant-miss-players-in-the-2015-nfl-draft
    ….and one of the scouts I have come to respect immensely simply wouldn’t budge outside of a top five….
    …”I love this draft, I absolutely love it,” he said. “This is a scout’s draft. If you are the average GM and you didn’t go see these kids play a lot this year and you were watching film all year, you’re screwed. You have to have watched the tape all season. You have to have really seen these kids, and there is no way you can find the time to watch all 12 games on them in the offseason. You have to have seen these players develop all year long to have the right track on them.

    “This is my kind of a draft. Am I saying this group is loaded with Pro Bowlers? No. But there are some really good players who are going to go on the second and third day who, I’m telling you, are going to be better than a lot of kids who go on the first day. You just have to know where to find them.”

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    alyoshamucci

    I have to say that last year, I was on the fence about taking an OT. I wanted Sammy Watkins of course, but I was on the fence on whether or not Fisher would consider taking an O lineman in round one since he’d never done it.

    But when I look at it now, as I looked at it then, he was NOT taking an O lineman. He was taking a FREAK. G Rob was 330 and ran a 4.9 and had how many reps? Also, Boudreau LOVED him.
    He may be the most athletic tackle prospect to come out since Pace and he had the full confidence of our staff.

    All of that led to our moving toward him instead of the freakish Sammy Watkins. This year we have another shot at a top WR, and next year likely too. Also it turned out to really matter that we went that direction because Jake went down.

    But let’s not forget that he had NEVER done that before, and let’s not forget that G Robinson is an absolute MONSTER.

    So, my point? We’re not going O line at 10. I’m going to call it. Scherff is an average athlete, Peat and Flowers are really second round prospects with upside but huge holes in their game … and possibly their attitudes, which is even worse. Are they really that much better than Donovan Smith, or even Jamal Brown for that matter?

    So while some may have an O lineman worthy of a pick at ten, would you say that Fisher would take a GUARD at 10? I can’t. I just can’t.

    Whether we take a WR, Gurley, or a high end DE I really don’t care. But I am going on record to say that I believe there is ZERO chance they take an average athlete at 10 overall.

    in reply to: stadium wars #23273
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    inglewood’s stadium presentation.

    starts at 2:37 mark.

    http://www.cityofinglewood.org/soc15.html

    it’s sad. lots of loyal st louis rams fans are getting jobbed on this. i don’t know how this can be stopped.

    Well…um…so did lots of loyal Los Angeles fans back in 1995. Ya know.

    I cant see any way out of the ‘jobbing’
    of loyal fans somewhere — unless the NFL
    adds a coupla teams.

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    On all but a few players, I find opinions to vary widely, even among the experts, on the value of the players in this draft. It is going to be a wild ride Thursday.

    Yup. Exciting draft.

    How would you Mock
    the top four, Ag?

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    Tampa Bay
    Tennessee
    Jacksonville
    Oakland

    Washington
    New York Jets
    Chicago
    Atlanta
    New York Giants
    St. Louis

    in reply to: Rams to pick up fifth-year option on DT Michael Brockers #23224
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    Well, i guess thats good news.
    I assume it means Fisher and Greg Wiliams
    think he’s doing a good job.

    I hope he comes into camp heavy.
    Cause one would think teams are gonna
    want to run a Aaron Donald and Brockers.

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    in reply to: 5 teams with hardest schedules in 2015 (Rams are 6th) #23220
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    I remember many many years the
    LA Rams played a cupcake schedule
    in the “Mild Mild West”
    and they never seemed quite as
    battle-hardened as the other teams,
    to me.

    Then again the GSOT played a cupcake
    schedule in 99 and won it all.
    So, I dunno.

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    in reply to: Demoff 4/24 #23140
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    Yeah I used to like him. Now he’s gone all 1984.

    He’s been Kroenke-ized.
    Itz like Bulgerized only worse.

    Btw, if i were in charge, I’d move the Rams
    back to Los Angeles,
    and I’d move the Cardinals back to St.Louis,
    and I’d screw Arizona.

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    in reply to: Demoff 4/24 #23120
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    Demoff Sure sounded to me like a guy
    who is headed for LA.

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    in reply to: I can watch this every week… #23116
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    Yeah that play in SF was completely out of nowhere unexpected.

    It would be even more memorable if of course the Rams had a winning record that year.

    Interesting on the Hadl to Jackson vid. They ended up trading away both Hadl and Jackson. The Jackson trade I didn’t get. He went on to play well for 4 productive seasons after they dumped him.

    The Hadl-Jackson game was my favorite regular season
    Ram game of the 70’s. Maybe my favorite regular season
    ram game of the 70’s and 80’s.

    The Rams had been such a great Defensive team
    in the late 60’s and early 70’s. But in that
    game it looked like they had found a GSOT-type offense.
    37 points on Doomsday.

    Didnt turn out that way though. The offense turned out
    to be a ground chuck offense after that game.

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    in reply to: suggestion: 8 categories for rating players #23090
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    >I do something like that.
    1. Prototype
    2. Pro bowl
    3. Plus player = near all pro
    4. Above average starter
    5. Starter
    6. Spot filler
    7. Roster filler
    You have one more than I do

    What category would Incognito
    be in?

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    Practicing in California.
    Last two games on the West Coast.

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    in reply to: Rams 2015 Schedule #23010
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    I see the rams have ten days
    to get ready for the game in Seattle.

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    in reply to: Rams 2015 Schedule #22990
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    If the 49ers would collapse this year,
    it would help.

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    I think he is probably somewhere in the top 20 or so right tackles in the league. Maybe top 25 but he does know our scheme coaches and players. Good enough to not be a hindrance if the rest of the law line is solid.

    I’d give him 4 million a year if I was a billionaire and had that much pocket change and Space.

    I dunno what they are thinking about the OLine,
    but I am dying to know.

    This can be a very dangerous team if they figure it out;
    or it could be another .500 team if they dont.
    To state the obvious.

    I’ve seen a lot of posts lately that argue
    they dont need to draft Olinemen in the early rounds
    cause they can get solid players in the later rounds.
    It will be interesting to see if Snisher follows
    that course or if they invest high pick(s)
    on young Olinemen.

    I’m gettin excited about the draft.

    The only thing that bothers me
    is other teams get to draft too.
    I dont like that part.

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    Ok, but i dunno. I’m just not sure how much the rest
    of the line affects a Tackle. Just seemed like he was
    getting physically beat too much. But I’m not sure.

    To me, among other things, that means that they shifted all the schemes, protections, and help to compensate for the rookie Robinson, and Barksdale was put out on an island. Yet in 2013 he handled JJ Watt. No one comlained about JB in 2013.

    He played well in 2013 when he had help.
    He did not play well in 2014 without help.

    So, I dunno.

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    in reply to: First day of lifting and conditioning #22967
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    There is just no such thing as unimportant football information.

    I wanna know what happened to the under-inflated-balls story.

    Or was it over-inflated balls. I forget.

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    It was the patriots, so …naturally it gets swept under the rug

    Swept under the rug?

    Well they must have been under-inflated then.

    How come we havent had any
    equipment manager news this year?
    Are they keeping the same equipment system
    or are they installing a new system
    again?

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    There is just no such thing as unimportant football information.

    I wanna know what happened to the under-inflated-balls story.

    Or was it over-inflated balls. I forget.

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    you can judge an OT
    without regard to the Guard next to him.

    I don’t do the “guard next to him” argument. It was the entire line.

    Ok, but i dunno. I’m just not sure how much the rest
    of the line affects a Tackle. Just seemed like he was
    getting physically beat too much. But I’m not sure.

    Again though — if he’s a good solid Tackle,
    why aint they signed him?

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    Well, I’ve seen those pictures and they are
    relevant but not dispositive.

    My eyeball didnt like what i saw from him
    last year.

    Your view as i understand it, is
    you cant judge an OLineman in isolation,
    but I tend to think you can judge an OT
    without regard to the Guard next to him.

    I dunno though.

    The fact that they haven’t resigned him
    makes me wonder about how much they
    value him.

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    Man. Itz almost like Kroenke doesn’t want St.Louis
    fans to buy tickets.

    Practicing in Oxnard. Geez.

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    Well, I’ve read the view that he regressed because
    other components of the OLine became injured…and while
    I’m considering that notion…I’m not convinced.

    I dunno about Barksdale.

    And it sure looks like Snisher dont think
    he’s worth throwing a lot of money at.

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    in reply to: The draft–prospects, scouting, mocks #22925
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    Interesting thots.
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    Alyoshamucci

    This is my first time doing this. I figure I’ll have to give a couple strategies to make sense of things.

    What I’m seeing.

    1) Unless we are head over heels in love with a specific OG, there is no need to take one until the 3rd or 4th round. There are that many. Like 10-15. And it is likely that we will get quality in the 6th if we decide to wait that long as the average amount of OGs taken in a draft is 13.6 (can’t remember where I saw that stat, but it was pretty cool). A kid like Feliciano could come in and likely start and he may be there in the 6th.

    2) The top of the draft has some truly physically gifted kids, and ignoring that to pursue a need would be a serious mistake IMO.

    3) The second round could have some truly gifted kids also, but they will need more attention and coaching, so if we feel like we can coach a player up, we will likely wan to take a freak there also.

    4) The OTs in this draft are primarily ORTs that are going to need some coaching. One we like may be worth trading up for from the 41 spot if he begins sliding.

    5) The demand for the 10 pick vs. the quality of the athlete available is likely going to determine our draft.

    6) Using picks next year to move up and snag someone, or trading down for picks next year … both seem to be good ideas.

    7) If we like Garrett Reynolds, there are about 3-4 developmental OTs that should be there in the 6th.

    8) There is never going to be a spot in this draft where taking a QB makes sense.

    So I have two routes.

    1) We take the best Athlete at 10, or
    2) Someone offers us a TON to move down, where we would take the best of the position of need.

    1) Cooper, White, Dupree, Gurley, Parker, Ray. One will be there if not 4. Then in round 2 if another athlete slides (DGB, Perriman) we wait and snag him. If an athlete doesn’t slide we can always trade up as an OT gets close.

    2) Pittsburgh slings us a 2 this year and a 3 next year to move up for Dupree/Ray. Then we draft Clemmings or Flowers for the right side. And at 41 we take the best athlete.

    Either way we don’t address OG until round 3 or 4.

    I think scenario 1 is more likely.

    My mock right now as it stands.

    1) Gurley
    2) Clemmings (possibly in a trade up for a pick next year)
    3) Marcus Hardison/Z Smith DE One should be there.
    4) Ali Marpet/Reese Dismukes OC One should be there. I was worried a bit about Dismukes being gone until Cann started working at OC.
    6) Feliciano OG
    7) Damien Wilson ILB (odds are this will be the pick that never changes)

    Note: I’d probably take DGB over Clemmings.

    Doing the fanspeak mock draft was a real eye opener, as it gives you the option to choose from many big boards. After going through all of them I saw some really interesting patterns, mainly with the OGs.

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