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wvParticipantwvParticipantHall of Fame semi-finalists.
I do not want to see Vinatieri make the hall of fame.
Earl Thomas might be the best of that bunch, i dunno.
I think Torry might make it this year.
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The full list of modern-era semifinalists is as follows:
Player
Position Primary Teams
Willie Anderson T Bengals, Ravens
Drew Brees QB Chargers, Saints
Lomas Brown T Lions, Cardinals, Browns, Giants, Buccaneers
Jahri Evans G Saints, Packers
Larry Fitzgerald WR Cardinals
Frank Gore RB 49ers, Colts, Dolphins, Bills, Jets
Rodney Harrison S Chargers, Patriots
Torry Holt WR Rams, Jaguars
Luke Kuechly LB Panthers
Eli Manning QB Giants
Robert Mathis DE/LB Colts
Philip Rivers QB Chargers, Colts
Steve Smith Sr. WR Panthers, Ravens
Terrell Suggs LB/DE Ravens, Cardinals, Chiefs
Fred Taylor RB Jaguars, Patriots
Earl Thomas DB Seahawks, Ravens
Adam Vinatieri PK Patriots, Colts
Hines Ward WR Steelers
Reggie Wayne WR Colts
Richmond Webb T Dolphins, Bengals
Vince Wilfork DT Patriots, Texans
Kevin Williams DT Vikings, Seahawks, Saints
Steve Wisniewski G Raiders
Jason Witten TE Cowboys, Raiders
Darren Woodson S Cowboys
Marshal Yanda G/T RavensAdditionally, the finalists in the coach, contributor, and senior categories have been named:
Coach Finalist: Bill Belichick
Contributor Finalist: Robert Kraft
Senior Finalists: Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, and L.C. GreenwoodThe list of modern-era semifinalists will be reduced to 15 finalists in late December. The final Class of 2026 will be announced in advance of Super Bowl LX.
wvParticipantI watched that entire thing, and not one damn word about Luigi.
I like Josh Johnson though. He’s good.
Well, the Luigi stuff is in this one, fwiw:
wvParticipantIs it me, or does Ben Johnson seem like a dick?
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vwvParticipant1:25 of the vid, Golden Tate raves about Stafford.
wvParticipantInteresting.
…London Fletcher has defended the most career passes by a linebacker, with 86 passes..
December 3, 2025 at 3:52 pm in reply to: setting up the ARZ game including injuries & sad broadcast map #159877wvParticipantYou sure thats not the Kamala vs Trump map?
3rd year vet Bam Knight, leads the Cardinals in rushing with 255 yards. 3.4 yard average.
Ive never heard of him.
Jacoby Brisset is having a nice year. 97.4 QB rating. 13 TDs 4 INTs.
Rams defense needs to take some shit out on this team.
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vwvParticipantshort critique of Ken Burn’s American Revolution.
wvParticipantYou have no future as a football analyst. The job expects you to fill in gaps with plausible, entertaining bullshit.
I think that the Rams learned that they have to score more points than the other team. They should be fine going forward.
I think the Rams learned to Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
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vwvParticipant“…but they learned a valuable lesson Sunday during a 31-28 loss..”
Well, we dont know what they learned.
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vwvParticipantWow, don’t you kind of hope the Seahawks win for the draft pick, but lose for playoff positioning?
Very conflicting.
I wonder if its possible, that the Rams might play the Seahawks And 49ers in the playoffs?
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vwvParticipantThe old-school hit on Jaxson Dart. Just an ordinary play for all those QBs in the 70s.
wvParticipantDecember 2, 2025 at 7:20 am in reply to: setting up the ARZ game including injuries & sad broadcast map #159847wvParticipantdecent chance Kyler has played his last snap as a Cardinal
… Said Murray plays like he has PTSD. Nothing over 10 yards, and doesn’t run anymore.
Sounds like somebody the Steelers would want.
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vwvParticipantThe Chicago Bears schedule:
At Green Bay
Cleveland
Green Bay
At San Francisco
DetroitwvParticipantAs of Dec 1.
NFC
1 Bears
2 Rams
3 Eagles
4 Bucs
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5 Seahawks
6 Packers
7 49ers
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On the bubble: Lions======
AFC
1 Denver
2 Pats
3 Jags
4 Ravens
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5 Chargers
6 Colts
7 Bills
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On the bubble: Texans===========
Rams have the 9th pick as of today.
wvParticipantI thought it would be close. Sigh. Every loss is huge at this point, given the importance of the bye and playing at home. Playing AT Chicago, Philly or Seattle is not a good idea.
I thought the Rams gave away the other two losses, but this one is different, to me. Carolina just wanted it more and it showed. And sure, if the Rams dont turn the ball over they still win, but Carolina outplayed them today, out hit them, had more energy. Not by much, but it was what it was.
9-3.
Bears 9-3, Packers 8-3-1, Eagles 8-4, 49ers 8-4, Seahawks, (8-3 pending)
Its like The Game of Thrones, this year.
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“And who are you, the proud Lord said
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that’s all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws.
And, mine are as long and sharp, my Lord
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that Lord of Castamere,
but now the rains weep o’er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes, now the rains weep o’er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.”
― George R.R. Martin, A Storm of SwordswvParticipantThe big trade – Stafford to the Rams. Goff and two no.1 picks and a 3rd rd pick to the Lions.
Lions ended up getting: Goff, RB Jamir Gibbs, and TE Sam Laporta and WR Jameson Williams.
The Lions did fine in that trade.
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vwvParticipantI had never heard this — Deacon taped a piece of metal in his hand, for his head-slaps.
wvParticipantDoug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
Here’s the thing about the Eagles’ offense.Nick Sirianni doesn’t want a lot of motion or condensed formations. The route concepts are more elementary than they were last season, but they weren’t advanced algebra in 2024, either.
The issues start fundamentally at the top. And this is a brain trust that doesn’t seem to like a lot of the things that make modern passing games… well, modern.
The question is, Why?
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vwvParticipantEspecially a Canadian Left Tackle.
Whatever happened to the idea of annexing Canada? And Greenland?
I thought that was a really good idea. All the Canadians I’ve met have been decent people, and I think they would like to be liberated so they can enjoy American freedoms, too.
Look, this thread is about undrafted FRANCHISE nations. Canada is a mid-round nation with a maple leaf as their symbol. A leaf.
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vwvParticipantBen Johnson.
wvParticipantThe Tom Brady diet.
wvParticipantThat even puts the Bears ahead of GB and Detroit in their division. They are competing with Seattle for the 2nd seed in the NFC.
Against the Eagles, Bears RB Kyle Monangai got 130 yards on 22 carries, and D’Andre Swift got 125 yards on 18 carries. Caleb Williams didn’t even complete 50% of his passes, but didn’t have to apparently.
Yeah, 280 yards on the ground against that Eagle front. 40 minutes time of possession vs. 20 minutes.
I thought the Eagles defense was the best in the NFC before that game. But they were just mauled.
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vwvParticipantVery surprised by the Bears win over Philly. I really thought Chicago was the weakest of the playoff contenders. I guess they are for real.
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vwvParticipantFinding a solid LT as an UDFA was remarkable. Especially a Canadian Left Tackle.
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A.I. ram
As of November 28, 2025, two NFL teams have a starting left tackle who entered the league as an undrafted free agentLos Angeles Rams
Player: Alaric Jackson
Details: Jackson was an undrafted free agent signing for the Rams in 2021. He secured a contract extension in February 2025 and is the team’s starting left tackle.Washington Commanders
Player: Cornelius Lucas
Details: Lucas was originally signed by Washington as an undrafted free agent. He is currently the Commanders’ starting left tackle.wvParticipantI thought Karty would be a fixture in LA for the next five years.
Strange case. I wonder what happened to him ?
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vwvParticipantCarolina RB Rico Dowdle.
When he carries the ball 10 or more times: Panthers are 6-1
When he carries the ball less than 10 times: 0-5w
vwvParticipantLions getting some help.
“..As vaguely indicated by the Lions’ social media accounts and confirmed by NFL insider Ian Rapoport, former All-Pro center Frank Ragnow is shockingly unretiring to come back and play for Detroit. Ragnow, 29, was drafted by the Lions and spent seven excellent seasons leading what would turn into a dominant offensive line. He was widely recognized as one of the best centers in the league throughout his career and earned three second-team All-Pro nods in recognition of that.”
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