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nittany ramModeratorThose girls need some cheeseburgers.
Wouldn’t help.
In SoCal the cheeseburgers are made of tofu and kale, so…
nittany ramModeratorStill looks like some 7-9 bullshit to me.
Yeah, but 7-9 will feel so much better in southern Cal.
Because of the low humidity.
nittany ramModeratorAll these games against Seattle look the same. They’re always tough defensive battles. I think what tips the scale in Rams favor is at the LOS. Seattle’s weak oline is ultimately overpowered by the Rams d-line.
nittany ramModeratorsounds like there’s a lot of nervous nellies out there. ha!
As an Anxious Annie I take umbrage at that remark.
I was a Wentz guy too. He just seemed like he had more physical tools and upside than Goff. Plus as you said he played in a pro style offense. The only knock on him was that he wasn’t ready to play in the NFL – yet he’s starting and did well in his first outing.
That said, I’m not dissatisfied with Goff. His struggles in preseason haven’t soured me on him.
September 17, 2016 at 10:20 am in reply to: "if Fisher had his way Goff wouldn't play in 2016"… & other Fisher/Goff rumors #53136
nittany ramModeratorJeff Fisher DOES have his way. So whether Goff plays or not is 100% up to him, as far as we know.
What Silver actually said – since you have misquoted him in order to get hits and increase your revenue – is this:
Actually, the headline on the post is different than the one for the article. It’s different because I couldn’t remember the exact wording and I had already closed the site and I was too lazy to post the link, click on it, copy the headline, then edit and resubmit the post. (I just now noticed the headline is written in the link)
But I didn’t mean to imply that Fisher didn’t have control of Goff’s playing time. I only meant that if things went the way Fisher would want them to, Goff wouldn’t have to play this year. In other words, I meant the same thing Silver said, it’s just that my wording wasn’t as precise.
Okay, well, it’s manly of you to come here and apologize. That’s the right thing to do. But now I’m going to have to ask you to leave the board for a few minutes, so we can talk about how we are going to handle this situation. You’ve been a good poster over the years, and it goes without saying that we personally like you, but there are bylaws around here, and to some extent our hands are tied. I’m sorry.
I understand. I am not fit to post here. I’m sorry that I let you all down.

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September 17, 2016 at 9:00 am in reply to: "if Fisher had his way Goff wouldn't play in 2016"… & other Fisher/Goff rumors #53132
nittany ramModeratorAgreed. It’s these silly blogger kids.
I like TurfshowTimes but I don’t post everything they write. I try to find the more newsy articles – those in which players, coaches and reporters are quoted instead of the emotional rants.
Here’s the actual discussion and you’re right the title of the article misrepresents what Silver says.
As I explained to zooey above, I inadvertently misquoted the headline.
September 17, 2016 at 8:50 am in reply to: "if Fisher had his way Goff wouldn't play in 2016"… & other Fisher/Goff rumors #53131
nittany ramModeratorJeff Fisher DOES have his way. So whether Goff plays or not is 100% up to him, as far as we know.
What Silver actually said – since you have misquoted him in order to get hits and increase your revenue – is this:
Actually, the headline on the post is different than the one for the article. It’s different because I couldn’t remember the exact wording and I had already closed the site and I was too lazy to post the link, click on it, copy the headline, then edit and resubmit the post. (I just now noticed the headline is written in the link)
But I didn’t mean to imply that Fisher didn’t have control of Goff’s playing time. I only meant that if things went the way Fisher would want them to, Goff wouldn’t have to play this year. In other words, I meant the same thing Silver said, it’s just that my wording wasn’t as precise.
nittany ramModeratorThat would be cause for concern if they had lost to the best team in the league, and they lost to one of the worst.
This is the assumption I question.
The media said they were one of the worst but they had no good reason for it.
Kelly has gotten things out of qbs before people were dismissing. (Eg. Sanchez’s best games were all with Kelly).
And that defense was far better than its record under Tomsula/Mangini
That defense did not play like one of the worst ones in the league.
I often see this, where people are dismayed the Rams lost to a team so bad, and then turns out they were just wrong about that team being that bad.
Now that’s not to say the Rams should have lost and should have looked that bad doing it, but in this case, like many cases in previous year, I question the extra added lamenting that comes from assuming a team was “one of the worst” when in fact there’s good reason to doubt that it was.
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Fair enough. But like I said, losing to anyone 28-0 is cause for concern. Of course there’s the odd outlier here and there but for the most part playoff caliber teams don’t lose to anybody by 28 points. They don’t get shutout. And that’s the crux of it, because we were expecting the Rams to be a playoff level team. Why did we believe that? Well, speaking for myself I believed it because Fisher believed it and said as much.
Now, could the Rams still be a playoff team? Sure. But the way they played the first game doesn’t bode well for that. Maybe the 9ers are a decent team but that doesn’t really take the sting out of this loss because of what that loss most likes says about the Rams.
nittany ramModeratorI dont like to talk about fans (posters) much, but lets just say
many of them often rush to judgment about all kinds of things.1/16th of the season is gone. 15/16ths to go.
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vTrue but the Rams lost 28 – 0. That would be cause for concern if they had lost to the best team in the league, and they lost to one of the worst. So I get its only one game but on the other hand I can understand why people are upset. In this circumstance I don’t think the rush to judgement is necessarily unwarranted.
September 16, 2016 at 6:37 am in reply to: Rams in 99 yellow/blue throwbacks for Seattle game #53064
nittany ramModeratorSo is Ryan Seacrest affiliated with the Rams now?
By the way, this is how you announce that the Rams will be wearing throw-back uniforms in the Coliseum…

nittany ramModeratorPeople are not getting what he meant IMO. He was saying that he thought the SF defense was doing certain things it wasn’t.
What? You mean you think Keenum really didn’t mean he was seeing actual ghosts? Based on what? We have his direct quote.
To you sir I say balderdash and poppycock.
nittany ramModeratorAs usual perception has nothing to do with reality.
Ain’t that the truth. Wanna hear something funny? Well, maybe not funny – but it’s kinda ironic. I drive a white Mazda CX7 with black-out tint on all windows and a light tint on the entire windshield. I also have 22″ chrome & brushed aluminum rims and a killer sound system – with which I bump the bass quite a bit. Would you like to know how many times I’ve been pulled over in that car for either no apparent reason, or very very minor traffic offenses? In the past year, 7 times. Know how many tickets I’ve gotten? One. Apparently I was in a subdivision that had a noise ordinance.
I’m glad you’re hanging out here, X. I hope you stick around.
What kind of music were you playing on that killer sound system? I’m thinking the reason you were pulled over is that the cops didn’t appreciate you blasting One Direction at 10,000 decibels…
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nittany ramModeratorzooey said:
They get pulled over by police more often, searched more often, arrested more often, and prosecuted more often. And their sentences are harsher than what whites receive for comparable crimes.
Northeastern University just did a study on racial profiling by the Vermont State Police. As you would expect, they found that black motorists were indeed stopped and searched more often than whites. Five times more often, in fact.
However, white motorists that were stopped and searched were more likely to have contraband compared to non-white motorists that were stopped and searched.
As usual perception has nothing to do with reality.
Racial profiling will become an effective tool for crime prevention as soon as law enforcement starts targeting white people.
September 15, 2016 at 1:34 pm in reply to: Informal poll… will the Rams rebound against Seattle? #53004
nittany ramModeratorIt’s late in the 4th quarter. Rams are down by 4 pts. Keenum has been harried and abused by the Seattle defense the entire game. The crowd is silent as his teammates with heads down watch the trainers lift Keenum to his feet. Unable to continue he is helped from the field. Que Jared Goff, the bright-eyed rookie who had just been named QB2 prior to the game. What Goff lacks in know-how is more than compensated for with moxie and hutzbah. He hoists the comatose offense onto his back and with the grit of a thousand Duke Waynes wills his team the length of the field and into the endzone for the victory.
A Hollywood story befitting a Hollywood team.
nittany ramModeratorIt has been predicted from the earliest days of antibiotics. Now what?
Dunno. Most pharmaceutical companies don’t do much research into new antibiotics because there’s no money in them. This is because a given person rarely needs antibiotics and any new antibiotic will be obsolete in 20 years or so due to bacterial resistance. The carbepenems are our last line of defense and some bacteria are starting to show resistance to them.
nittany ramModeratorI got no opinion on anything
till i see a couple more games.That goes for all issues, btw. Race, gender, politics, Game of Thrones,
The Kardashians, Global Warming, Scientology, Monsanto, Zooey’s dummer Brother, Wood Stoves, Vaccinations, False Flags, Jesus, Concussions,
Electric Football, Raisin Toast, Terrorism, tapirs…..doesnt matter. I have no opinion until i see a couple more games.w
vYou’re being hyperskeptical. We’ve seen enough games to know that Scientology is true.
nittany ramModeratorI think Fisher is middle of the pack. So, keep him, fire him, it isn’t a big deal to me.
I was in favor of extending him prior to the SF disaster. Now not so much. I know one game shouldn’t carry so much weight but the Rams looked SO bad…I dunno. I’m no longer deeply embedded in the Fisher camp.
I like continuity and once Goff get’s his shit together the offense will improve. But this team has a lot of talent. I think there’s a lot of coaches that could do well with the Rams.
So, yeah – extend him, fire him, whatever.
September 14, 2016 at 2:07 pm in reply to: 49ers could tell by alignment exactly what the Rams route tree was #52873
nittany ramModeratorSo…..the 9ers defense figured out the Rams offense before Jared Goff?
Line of the year. You win the Internet.
September 14, 2016 at 1:22 pm in reply to: 49ers could tell by alignment exactly what the Rams route tree was #52869
nittany ramModeratorWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
Well, the 9’ers player said they could tell the route tree by the Rams’ ‘alignment’. It does seem problematic if the defense can tell what route you’re gonna run just by where you line up.
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nittany ramModeratorThey gotta get the running game going which means an o-line that couldn’t block the 9’ers’ front seven must somehow figure out a way to block the Seahawks’ front seven.
Which they’ve done. Blocked the Seattle front 7. Pretty much the same OL, except Reynolds in for Saffold, and Wichmann/Brown rotating instead of just Wichmann. That was just 3 regular season games ago.
Yeah I know. Which is why their inability to block the 9’ers was as astonishing as it was disappointing.
But there’s an old coaching adage that says you’re not as good as you look when you win and not as bad as you look when you lose. Who knows, maybe the o-line’s futility against the 9’ers could have been corrected with a few adjustments that the coaches are now aware of after looking at film and will put in place against Seattle.
Or maybe the o-line will continue to implode in on itself like a dying star.
We shall see…
nittany ramModerator“We have to go out and fix the problem and do us, be us,” said Keenum.
the problem is they are who are they are. i want them to be something else…
Yeah, my fear is Keenum can’t fix the problem because he is the problem. Hopefully that isn’t the Case (see what I did there).
One thing is certain, Keenum can’t carry this team on his back. They gotta get the running game going which means an o-line that couldn’t block the 9’ers’ front seven must somehow figure out a way to block the Seahawks’ front seven.
nittany ramModeratorAlthough I don’t think that form of protest is the best way to help the cause, I agree with every word wv and Zooey said. Well said, gentlemen.
nittany ramModeratorhttp://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-49ers-plaschke-20160912-snap-story.html
Rams opener isn’t what Los Angeles was waiting for
Bill PlaschkeWe waited 22 years for … this?
The Rams formally returned to Los Angeles on Monday night by stumbling through the door and tracking mud on the floor before flopping aimlessly on the couch.
Hey, St. Louis, you want them back?
Just kidding. Sort of. Maybe not. Is there a return policy on this golden-horned mess?
The Rams played the first regular-season game by a Los Angeles NFL franchise in 22 years by behaving as if it was the first game they have played anywhere in 22 years, losing miserably to the San Francisco 49ers, 28-0.
That’s right, after wandering for more than two decades in the desert, the Rams finally showed up, but then didn’t show up.
Twenty-two years later, the Rams are here, but Los Angeles still hasn’t scored an NFL point.
As premieres go, it was a face plant into the red carpet. As homecomings go, it was a Kiwanis Club float with no driver and no brakes.
“Like I told the players, there are 15 other teams that lost,” said Rams Coach Jeff Fisher.
Hello? Did any of those teams celebrate such great history by making such bad history? Any of those teams end a two-decade drought with a four-touchdown loss?
“We came out expecting the Rams to play better than they did,” said the 49ers’ NaVorro Bowman.
You think?
We all knew the Rams didn’t have the titles of the Lakers or the history of the Dodgers — they had not made the playoffs in 14 years — but did anybody actually believe they would be early-Clippers bad ?
They were worse. They were Benoit Benjamin in a helmet. They were Michael Olowokandi in shoulder pads.
It started with a first half during which they gained all of 87 yards while allowing two 49ers touchdowns thanks to a variety of mistakes and much confusion.
It ended midway through the fourth quarter with Aaron Donald, the Rams’ vaunted defensive leader, being ejected after knocking off Quinton Patton’s helmet and having contact with an official.
With the Levi’s Stadium fans gleefully booing, Donald embarrassingly stripped off his own helmet, smashed it on the turf, and stalked off the field like a big angry kid who had just been thrown out of recess.
“I let my emotions get the best of me … no excuses,” said Donald. “Anytime you lose a game like that, you’re going to be embarrassed.”
After thriving without professional football for 22 years, the Los Angeles sports landscape doesn’t need this. The landscape doesn’t want this. As the Rams will learn when they lose their buzz this week, the landscape will not tolerate this.
The Rams can’t just show up and play on “Monday Night Football” and think L.A. will love them for it, not when they play like this, and the Rams know it.
All the goodwill they built up during the summer disappeared Monday night with a terrible Case Keenum interception that killed their only decent scoring chance, with Keenum throwing two picks and completing fewer than half of his 35 passes.
All the excitement they generated this fall during well-attended training camp sessions ended as quickly as Todd Gurley was stuffed at the line of scrimmage, again and again, gaining only 47 yards.
All that talk about restoring the once-great Rams tradition was thrown around like yellow flags on a humiliating number of dumb Rams penalties, 10 for 102 yards.
“Yeah, it’s definitely embarrassing,” said Keenum. “I’m a winner. I know Todd is a winner. Everyone in that locker room is winners.”
Maybe so, but the only time the Rams seemed truly passionate was during the national anthem, when the team’s Robert Quinn and Kenny Britt stood with their right fists raised in unity with the 49ers’ Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid.
All that controversy over quarterback Jared Goff, the No. 1 overall draft pick who was appropriately inactive for this game because he struggled terribly during the preseason?
Watching this game from the sidelines while wearing a T-shirt, sweats and baseball cap was the best thing to happen to the kid. He kept his hands clean of this nightmare. He can learn from this beating without collecting a single bruise.
Goff would not have made a difference Monday night. But this could give Fisher the excuse to stick him in there in coming weeks. How much worse could he make it?
The 49ers fans began screaming “Beat L.A.” before the game as if they’ve been waiting all those 22 years to fill a football stadium with that chant. It took their football team all of about 22 seconds to start actually doing it.
At 7:21 p.m., the Rams ran the first professional football play by a Los Angeles team in 22 years. It was Gurley running right for four yards, upon which he basically disappeared for the rest of the night.
Later in the first quarter, the 49ers’ first touchdown drive contained all sorts of Rams foolishness.
There was ugly Rams defense, allowing Blaine Gabbert to scramble twice for a total of 16 yards. There were dumb Rams decisions, Lamarcus Joyner’s defensive holding adding five yards. Then, finally, a complete Rams breakdown on Carlos Hyde’s 11-yard run through a confused middle for a touchdown.
This set up more Rams indignation in the second quarter on a nine-play scoring drive by the 49ers that featured a fourth-and-six conversion on a diving catch by Jeremy Kerley and another defensive holding penalty on Joyner. The drive ended with Shaun Draughn fighting off T.J. McDonald and fighting into the end zone on a three-yard run for an eventual 14-0 lead.
The Rams made a nice effort late in the third quarter after a long Tavon Austin punt return and then a nice Austin catch on third down. They were still down by only two touchdowns. But then Keenum threw the ball directly to the 49ers’ Ray-Ray Armstrong on the San Francisco 23-yard line for his second interception. The game essentially ended, leaving the Rams to ponder the difficulties of the home opener Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks.
“We have to go out and fix the problem and do us, be us,” said Keenum.
Or at least be a team whose drive chart doesn’t read like the Rams’ drive chart on this most of horrid of Monday nights: punt, punt, punt, interception, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, interception, punt, turnover on downs, end of game.
Welcome home, Rams. Now go back outside and get your act together.
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nittany ramModeratorSome numbers:
Total Yards: 9ers: 320
Rams: 185Sacks: 9ers: 2
Rams: 0Ints: 9ers: 0
Rams: 2Penalties: 9ers: 2-10
Rams: 10-1023rd Down efficiency: 9ers: 8-17
Rams: 3-151st downs: 9ers: 28
Rams: 10This was not a loss–it was total domination by the 49ers.
I am beyond disgusted right now. I have hit my breaking point with the Jeff Fisher era. I want a rebuild. I’ll suffer through that. He has created a mess. I am sick and tired of watching this dink and dunk “offense”(I use that term loosely). They look like a NASCAR guy riding the brakes. Now whether that’s because of a Fisher philosophy, inadequate personnel, mistakes, whatever–I just don’t care anymore. He built it. It’s his. He drives it.
He owns it.
But forget about the miserable offense.
They tinkered with the defense in a weird way and I don’t know what I saw but they weren’t prepared for this game and the 9ers played a half of football before anything changed. Were they trying to see if Gabbert could break the single game rushing record? How does that happen–again and again?
I thought Ogeltree had a miserable game–at least the first half for sure. The D line could not sniff Gabbert but did they blitz or try anything different? What were the coaches watching? What were they doing about any of this?
And I still have sympathy for the defense because they could not even give up a field goal because 3 points would have been too much for this offense to make up. They didn’t have one redzone opportunity. Forget scoring–they couldn’t even get to the red zone. maybe if they had played on a ten yard field they would have gotten close.
Keenum did not look good, the receivers looked horrible(besides Britt)and Gurley ran time and again into a mass of red jerseys.
But I get the impression that things will not change. Fisher is who he is.
I won’t go back to this time and again–but I would hope they fire Fisher and start over because I have no confidence whatsoever that this team will have a winning season this year or next year or the one after that as long as he coaches them. I don’t care about being stuck in 8-8 hell. Become the Browns(hell they looked better)and start over.
I realize it’s one game. I get that. But it’s more than one game. It’s a collection of his work. Last night I wanted Goff to play but I’m not sure I want Fisher to be the one to “develop” Goff. Maybe save him for the next coach.
Okay–I’m done. I’ll move beyond it to other things.
But football is not fun and hasn’t been for a long time.
It is frustrating that New England can travel 3000 miles to Arizona and without their two best players (Brady and Gronk) beat a team many feel is the best in the NFC whereas the Rams get shut out 28 – 0 by a team many feel is the worst in the NFC. Should say ‘was’ cuz we know who gets to wear that badge this week.
Yeah, Fisher’s Rams teams always start the season slow and usually rebound but that is the worst loss Fisher has had as the Rams coach. It’s worse than the shellacking the Rams took in London. Shut-out losses to mediocre teams shouldn’t be happening in year 5. Not with the talent the Rams supposedly have. Not after Fisher announced to the world that the “7-9 bullshit” doesn’t cut it anymore.
nittany ramModeratorThe O-line was a big disappointment. Havenstein in particular looked bad. Hopefully he’s just rusty. Tavon Austin is just a gadget guy – he’s not a traditional wide receiver. He can still be a valuable part of the offense but the Rams need an outside receiver. When is Cooper back? I know it’s hard for a gameplan to look good when the execution isn’t there but the offensive scheme looked like the same ol’ bleh. Unimaginative.
Quinn probably isn’t in game shape yet but there is no excuse for that d-line to be handled like they were by the no-names on San Fran’s o-line. And Greg Williams got a little too cute at times. As JT pointed out in a tweet on the 9’er’s second TD at the goal line the Rams had a back seven comprised of 6 DB’s and Ogletree when the 9’ers were using a heavy, two TE package.
That’s two consecutive losses to a team QB’d by Blaine Gabbert. Blaine F’n Gabbert. Let that sink in.
Will Cooper, Spruce and Gaines be available next week? Maybe that will help.
I bet Fisher wished he had already signed that extension.
nittany ramModeratorI wonder how many protesters walked out there to protest?
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Well its a fair question, but its also fair to ask how is one supposed
to be totally ‘pure’ in all actions when one is born into a corporotacracy.
I mean, I have no problem with progressives picking out some major issues and fighting for them, while still having cars, or watching pro football on televisions, etc. Its ‘almost’ impossible to be a saint today. So, i don’t have a problem with non-saints protesting the big issues of the day.w
vBesides, the protesters aren’t saying “stop all oil production” or “don’t transport oil anywhere”…they just don’t want a pipeline running through their land that can potentially leak oil into their drinking water.
Oil companies made record profits on a yearly basis prior to this pipeline. I’m sure they would survive just fine without it.
nittany ramModeratorI can understand some 9er fans not respecting the Rams but what is it about their team that they like? Why do I see posts full of optimism and hope?
Do they not realize who and what they are and who and what they root for?
nittany ramModeratorI doubt they’ll look good doing it but they’ll manage to eek out a win.
nittany ramModeratorIt’s hard to know what can be laid at his feet. You mentioned how he outcoached Harbaugh and Carroll and beat them with lesser talent. However, he’ll immediately follow up a big victory with a big loss to a team with lesser talent.
But is that on him, or just the nature of a young team with QB issues?
I think it’s difficult to win in this league without a QB and Fisher has had to contend with QB issues from the beginning. He wasn’t to blame for the QB situation until he brought in Foles and even people who didn’t like the trade didn’t foresee that catastrophic meltdown coming. If the Rams had just got average play out of Foles they would have won 10 games last year.
The penalties are a tangible thing you can point to as a weakness. His team’s lack discipline and that’s on him. I’m not sure he considers that a weakness though. He likes his teams to be a little chippy.
nittany ramModeratorFisher: “The nickel spot, inside. It’s the hardest position to play. It’s harder than outside. It’s the hardest position to play, OK? You’re the best that I’ve had here in years inside. It’s a starting position, OK?”
Weird to me that Joyner didn’t realize that the nickel spot is essentially a starting spot in today’s NFL. Heck, it has been for some time – going back to before Joyner watched his first game. Nickel backs are probably on the field for 2/3rds of the snaps. The LB Ayers got cut because he makes too much money for how little he plays because the defense is in the nickel more often than not. And none of this is new to this year. The nickel has essentially been the base defense of NFL teams for a coupla decades.
PA is right, that whole Joyner sequence seemed off. It didn’t seem real. From complaining that he wasn’t getting reps with the starters to walking onto the field with his backpack to the meeting with Fisher – all of it seemed contrived.
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