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As for your dismissal of Weinke, the actual truth is, you have no idea. None. You have no idea whatsoever how good he is. I will say this. Mannion looked much better in the summer of 2016 than he did in the summer of 2015. That means he developed. Itâs not conclusive but it suggests the Rams coaches can develop a qb.
What I actually said was that Iâd rather have Martz teach Goff. Who would you rather have?
Youâre right. I donât know about Weinke. But Iâd rather have Martz for that role. It isnât JUST Weinke. Itâs Boras. Itâs Fisher. All contribute to what Goff will become. Iâm not crazy about that.
How many seasons should we give Fisher? Should we wait until everything is perfect? No injuries. No distractions? Perfect weather?
Any coach would take that. THATâS not reality. Good coaches will find a way.
Make no mistake. THIS is Fisherâs team. HE built it.
This is also a DUMB team. They make dumb mistakes at critical times. They are his players.
Their head just doesnât seem like itâs always in the game or game situations.
A fumble here, a penalty there, an int there, a blown timeout here and on and on.
They are his dumb team.
But weâll give him 5 more years of 4-6 starts to fix it. Unless there are injuries or QB challenges. Then heâll get 5 more.
I get patienceâI do. But this guy has a record zn. You canât make excuses for 21 years of mediocrity. It just doesnât work.
LookâI do like Martz but maybe he is a poor choice, I donât know. Like youânone of us know who would be the right choice. Neither do the Rams. But I do believe they should make a change. I do believe that. And I just am tired of this rinse and repeat over and over again. Yesâitâs taking a risk. It could be a disaster. But living in mediocrity is its own kind of disaster too.
Martz didnât âfind a way,â he lost his way. He took one of the best teams in NFL history and slowly eroded it. And when the quality fell apart he didnât âfind a wayââŠand thatâs even with a qb (Bulger).
Arians isnât âfinding a wayâ with a declining Palmer. McCarthy isnât âfinding a wayâ with a declining Rodgers. Harbaugh isnât âfinding a wayâ with an off-year Flacco.
Who would I rather have teaching Goff? Lombardi.
I think the whole âgood coaches find a wayâ thing is mythology. Name me actual real coaches who did well while starting back-up caliber qbs (and sometimes worse) for 75% of their games. I prefer the evidence of history. History tells meâno, coaches as a rule simply do not do as well if they play back-up caliber qbs the majority of the time. And I have no reason to believe Martz would do any better under the same conditions. He might actually do worse.
I am real big on history, contexts, looking at situations. That has always been true.
AND on top of it, you donât need to win the âwho does well with back-up qbs starting the majority of the timeâ battle. All you have to say is I donât care, I donât like Fisher anyway. Then weâre just voting differently in an informal poll. (Which IMO is the final truth of this anyway.) Which basically you did say. You vote for change. I don;t, or not yet anyway (and the truth is, I am not AGAINST it. I just donât think comparing two vastly different situations like Martz and Fisher gets at âthe truth.â I think it still comes down to value judgments and preferences.)
I will say this. On other boards, this kind of discussion is fraught and loaded and as often as not, personal. Here, I think people get the principle that you can disagree with a poster in one thread and at the same time agree in another. We donât let the discussion get loaded and antagonistic.
If you donât agree, then youâre under arrest. Donât tempt me either.
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Again zn, as I have said, this is Fisher’s 5th year, and this team should be considered a Super Bowl contender with the Seahawks, Cowboys, Patriots, Raiders, etc.
I don’t care about the length. The issues the casual fan I expect he or she may have, is the number of flags, and other stuf..
1. The helmet to helmet thingy, it is frustrating when the DB lowers himself to hit the receiver, only for the receiver to change himself. And the defensive player gets flagged.
2. Calls on the Oline, we are seeing GR getting flagged for, that I see on replay, and just don’t see it. Also, the holding calls are inconsistent. Jason Whitlock stated to cut out holding unless it is obvious, such as tackling the defender from behind.
3. What is a catch? The old adage we see in the NFL, is the refs never seem to get the catch thing right. Another thing that is inconsistent.
4. No Fun League. Most of the fans loved the days where players can express themselves. Especially with the football. Also, I feel it should be OK for a player to take his helmet off after he gets into the endzone. Then again that is me though.
Let’s not forget, I have seen on the net that the KKK are planning parades for Trump’s victory. One is in North Carolina. That is disgusting. Hoping the state will not allow them to do it. Same goes with other states as well. Can’t let it to be Amerikkka. That is what we are seeing.
