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InvaderRamModerator
what would he learn from randy moss? how to quit on a route?
he should be learning from bruce and holt and proehl.
InvaderRamModeratorme personally? at this point i want cameron erving. if i’m remembering correctly, he didn’t start playing offensive line until his sophomore year at fsu. and didn’t play center until this last year. so much potential still there. you start him out at guard. and in the future, you have your starting center. who has flexibility to slide out to either guard spot. and maybe even right tackle in an emergency situation.
robinson
saffold
barnes/jones
erving
barksdalei think that’s a winner right there.
even draft a couple more offensive linemen to develop.
InvaderRamModerator2. Is this just me? Not consensus? I always think of the fact that the Fisher/Boudreau Rams OL has been decent when it was relatively healthy. That’s even with an average at best or even below average starter or 2…”
=======================Yes, i’d say they have been “decent” when healthy.
But a ‘decent’ OLine is only good enough if you are the Seahawks or GSOT
or have a front seven like the Giant teams had, etc, etc.Overall, i think maybe you have been a little more impressed with the ‘Healthy
Ram Olines’ than moi. Maybe. I dunno.
Minor differences, between die-hard Ram-fanatix.As far as starting two Rookies on the Oline — I dunno. Obviously,
if they do it, it would be unprecedented for Fisher/Boudreau. But
this could be the year it happens. If it happens i guess it would
mean they aint happy with what the young players they’ve been developing.Can these people ever, finally, field a strong, healthy, better-than-‘decent’
Offensive Line? Year 4. We’ll see.w
vi think if robinson pans out. makes the expected progress this year. which i fully expect him to do.
and if the rams can hit on one offensive lineman. just one. in this draft. not saying they should draft just one. but if they can hit on just one.
and if the rams can sign barksdale.
this offensive line could be the best they’ve had in awhile. they’ve got youth and potential on their side. but again. robinson has to be the real deal. barksdale has to be re-signed. and they really got to hit on one offensive lineman in this draft. like they hit on donald last year at defensive tackle.
InvaderRamModeratori’m fairly certain the rams pick a qb this year. i just don’t know when that will be.
InvaderRamModeratorthis secondary needs more of that. leadership. toughness. i’m happy with him as a starter. but i think jenkins needs to be replaced. i hope i’m wrong.
InvaderRamModeratori like barksdale for several reasons.
1. he’s been in the system. continuity. that can’t be overstated. better than signing a veteran off the street.
2. he’s young. still only 26 years old. he can get better.
3. it doesn’t force the rams to draft olinemen. if they can sign him, they are less under the gun to draft oline early and often. i mean they should still consider it. but they have would have flexibility.
IF they can re-sign him, the rams are more likely to trade back and see what falls to them. hopefully a guy like cameron erving.
InvaderRamModeratorat this point. the only way i don’t see the rams picking offensive line is if marcus mariota drops.
InvaderRamModeratorI’m wondering if Blaylock would be a better signing than Barksdale at this point. If they are going to draft a Stud right tackle, and they have two candidates that could at least hold the fort at center, both being experienced in the system. It would be better for a rookie RT to have two guys next to him that know the system. Of course, this all depends on Blaylock not being Joseph 2.0.
Problem is, the draft is better at guard than tackle.
it does seem like it is better at guard. plus the top guards might have the ability to slide over to tackle.
i would like them to re-sign barksdale over blalock. for a lot of reasons.
InvaderRamModeratorthey might end up starting 2. i think they need to at least sign one free agent. the more i think about it it’s absolutely vital that they draft oline in the first round i prefer that they draft a guy who can play multiple positions. that would be scherff, collins, or erving.
then draft another in the second or third. problem is third rounders i’m assuming are more likely developmental guys. that’s why they need jones or someone who had been in the system to step up.
InvaderRamModeratorwell i doubt anyone could get 3 stud young olinemen in one draft. not sure that’s ever been done in the history of this league.
i do think they could draft 3 olinemen but i doubt they’d all be blue chip talent. at least one or two would need some development.
InvaderRamModeratorthis draft can’t come soon enough. i want to know what our starting offensive line is going to look like in 2015. if they can hit on an offensive lineman the way they did with aaron donald. i mean that could make the whole season. robinson, saffold, and stud would be huge. shoot. as deep as this oline class is, they could hit big on two.
April 8, 2015 at 12:11 am in reply to: OL in free agency … Barksdale, Blalock, Wisniewski, etc. #22312InvaderRamModeratori should say that i hope they re-sign barksdale. but for what he’s worth.
otherwise. yeah. find an alternative.
April 7, 2015 at 8:25 pm in reply to: OL in free agency … Barksdale, Blalock, Wisniewski, etc. #22304InvaderRamModeratorbarksdale may be ordinary, but i think continuity can’t be underestimated in this case. replacing 3/5 of the oline doesn’t sound like a recipe for success to me. he’s a solid right tackle who’s been in this system for a couple of years. he’s still young. put two stud rookies in there. and i think there’s a good chance of success.
or they could get the two stud rookies and put jones or barnes at center.
i think the important thing is that you have as many guys who are familiar with each other as you can.
InvaderRamModeratori’d want the rams to trade down and pick collins. then trade up in the second round and pick erving.
InvaderRamModeratori think i’d prefer scherff over peat or clemmings.
April 5, 2015 at 11:05 pm in reply to: minor side-issue: no one will ever "win" the Schott debates #22191InvaderRamModeratori’m not sad he’s gone. i don’t consider it a loss.
but i also don’t blame him for the problems the rams had last season.
stating the obvious, but injuries probably forced schotty to do a lot of things he didn’t necessarily want to do.
April 5, 2015 at 9:27 am in reply to: Fisher: Rams to see 'lot more out of' Kenny Britt in '15 #22160InvaderRamModeratordo the rams have a true number one receiver. or just even a 1000 yard receiver among this group?
i’ve got my doubts about britt although he was on his way to a breakout season before his injury. quick was too before he got injured.
i guess we’ll find out.
April 4, 2015 at 12:56 pm in reply to: Linemen in the 2015 draft … including 2 good Cosell podcasts #22108InvaderRamModeratoroverall though. i get the impression that while this offensive line class doesn’t have any superstars, it has a lot of depth. all the more reason to try and trade back in my opinion. unless some other position just pops out at them.
April 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm in reply to: Linemen in the 2015 draft … including 2 good Cosell podcasts #22107InvaderRamModeratorAnother Cosell podcast on offensive linemen
that was a lot of information. they seem to have some disagreement on collins although both think he can definitely play guard. farrar has a second round grade on erving. they love hroniss grasu. like a lot.
i’d really like it if the rams came out of this draft with one center prospect. i’d prefer erving. because i think he’d be able to play guard too. not sure if grasu could play guard.
InvaderRamModeratoryou could post the link and maybe someone could help.
InvaderRamModeratorit is nice isn’t it? before the internet or just around the rise of the internet, i’d have to go out and buy draft magazines to find all this information. but even then. we didn’t have access to the wealth of videos that get circulated around.
the thing that appeals to me most about guys like collins is their positional versatility. gives the team a lot of flexibility in terms of filling in gaps on the oline. especially in this day and age when those positions seems to go through so much flux.
i’d rather go for that guy than a guy who is strictly a tackle. maybe that’d be different if i was looking for a left tackle or even a center. but right now i’m looking at versatility.
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InvaderRamModeratorhopefully, the rams fix the oline. hopefully, foles stays healthy. hopefully, bailey, austin, quick, and britt can continue to get better.
and then the rams can get a better idea of what they have in these receivers.
InvaderRamModeratorlaram
There are at least 3 other lineman that I like as much if not more than Scherff.
Cooper is not a top 10 wr in MY book.
He scares nobody.
He doesn’t have great size, he doesn’t have great speed,he doesn’t have great quickness, he doesn’t have great hands.
My top 10 wr you better have to gameplan for him. With Cooper I’d put my #2 corner on him and call it a day.
He’s overvalued in MY estimation.
I’d take a trade down, get an extra pick and better value.
i don’t think i’d agree with that. i think cooper will be better than bailey. i see him as an isaac torry type receiver. doesn’t wow you with the measurables but will be extremely productive. and the rams don’t have that right now in the wr corps.
but i also see the value in drafting a quality lineman there too.
i’d take collins over scherff personally. or trade down and pick erving.
InvaderRamModeratorthat’s cool. i like it.
InvaderRamModeratornevermind. ag has been posting these. ha!
InvaderRamModeratoramari cooper and melvin gordon
InvaderRamModeratorcameron erving
marcus mariota
InvaderRamModeratorinteresting. lots of videos to check out.
InvaderRamModeratorApril 1, 2015 at 7:03 pm in reply to: Linemen in the 2015 draft … including 2 good Cosell podcasts #21954InvaderRamModeratori’m not sure if i have expressed this opinion enough. but i also have another scenario where the rams trade down and pick cameron erving. and that would be perfectly fine with me. plug him in at center. or start him out at guard with the intention of eventually plugging him in at center. barnes, jones, or rhaney starts at center.
then draft a guard tackle prospect in the second round.
and re-sign barksdale.
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