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InvaderRamModeratori think more than anything you feel bad for sam. he worked hard to come back and then that happens.
as far as the rams. well as far as offenses go. i’d have to think this is one of the more qb-friendly offenses. rams can still be competitive. well. maybe not. that secondary looks awful right now… sigh.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. we could very likely re-sign him for cheap. and truthfully. the rams would be the best option for him. he knows the team. he knows the coaches. the offense. the players. trying to come back from a second injury AND going to a new team and a new offense? that’s a lot.
i keep thinking danario alexander and what he went through. no. bradford’s a huge risk at this point.
InvaderRamModeratori think the year recovery period is due to a second injury. which makes sense to me. a second injury to the same ligament is going to be harder to overcome.
but then you take into account a pre-surgery rehab process which he’ll likely have to go through. you don’t just continually repair the same ligament and expect it to get easier. this will take longer than the previous one. i mean he tore it twice in a span of what? 10 months? just looking at articles on the internet. the risk of failure doubles on a second repair. so you better believe they’re gonna take longer to make sure that it’s good. obviously we don’t know the extent of the tear. so it’s just guessing. i’m probably a little bit more negative due to the fact that we just found out about this.
but the more i think about it. the rams might just have to cut him. i don’t know. i don’t know what makes more financial sense at this point.
August 24, 2014 at 7:22 pm in reply to: who should start? will they trade for someone? who? qb discussion #4886
InvaderRamModeratori say go with what you have and reevaluate in the offseason. hill should be fine. i thought he looked alright in the few times i’ve seen him. draft a quarterback next year.
InvaderRamModeratori didn’t even realize this but one year?? he won’t even be ready by next year. or it’d really be pushing it. my guess is he’ll be ready by game 4 or game 5.
InvaderRamModeratorJust saw some doctor a little while ago on ESPN talking about it. He said should be a longer recovery time(a year) and arthritis could be a problem. He said Sam could come back but it’s going to be a long road. I know this doesn’t matter in terms of how the Rams approach this but it was just some general comments on this type of injury.
yeah. i’m no expert. but anytime you operate on the same site twice. the chances of recovering from the second operation plummet. just a guess. and i think that’s true with anything. rebuild something two times. it’s just not the same.
honestly, i’m disappointed but not crushed. rams will survive this. whatever qb goes in there is going into a great situation. but i feel bad for bradford. this is going to be one helluva climb back for him.
InvaderRamModeratorbut even plunkett was able to play more than 1 season in a row.
for me. he’s the next sam bowie. some promise. wasn’t gonna live up to his draft status but still alright. except he couldn’t stay healthy.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. i can’t think of another starting qb with the injury history this guy has had who’s made it.
alex smith?
he had a shoulder injury which they chose not to do surgery on. they finally decided to have surgery on it when they realized it wouldn’t heal on its own.
then he had to have a second shoulder surgery. mind you this was not necessarily contact related rather it was related to a wire they had left from the first surgery.
besides that he blew out his knee.
bradford has had three major ligament injuries. he had an ankle injury which still hadn’t healed going into the next season i believe.
and i’m just taking a guess at this. but my guess is one ligament tear is bad enough. the prognosis for a SECOND tear on the SAME ligament. my guess is the prognosis takes a huge dip.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t care if he’s taken big hits. big hits is not what i’m talking about. shoot i can get in a car crash and walk away from it. stress is put on the knees and joints all the time in football. his ligaments. the ones that hold his shoulders, knees, ankles, and whatever else together. they just can’t take the stress of an nfl game. it’s not about awkward hits anymore. four times in five years? it’s not just about bad luck anymore. he’s injury prone. it might not happen on the next hit or the hit after that. but at some point. he’s gonna break something again.
InvaderRamModeratori didn’t see anything out of the ordinary with that hit. i think most qbs don’t injure themselves on a play like that because most qbs aren’t injury prone like sam is.
InvaderRamModeratorthe guy barely got hit. i mean. no ill will toward sam. these things happen. but he’s just not durable. i don’t see how the rams give him another contract at all.
InvaderRamModeratorwell yeah. they’ll keep him for that last year. i didn’t mean literally drop him from the team. but he’s done. next season should be his farewell season.
i don’t care if he even has a good season. he’s just an injury waiting to happen at this point. draft a quarterback in 2015. don’t look back. hopefully, he can catch on somewhere else.
InvaderRamModeratorno yeah. i agree. even with bradford out. i expect the rams to go downfield more than even 2012 if quick and britt are legit. rules or not. very similar to when they had danario. having a big target like those two going up for those balls should be effective.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t think they can rely on him at all. they gotta let him go. this is the worst rams news i’ve heard in awhile.
InvaderRamModeratorgood point wv. things should open up more for everyone.
InvaderRamModeratori was very encouraged by britt and quick.
that could change things for sure.
August 24, 2014 at 2:41 pm in reply to: Rams Team Value from Forbes & other "Rams to LA?" posts #4770
InvaderRamModeratorwell. if we’re to hear anything more at all about this, it wouldn’t be until next year according to farmer.
the only worry would be that as much as the owners were against the rams moving to st. louis, i think they would be that much in favor of them moving back. i think it all depends on what kroenke wants to do. i don’t think san diego will be able to stop any move back into la.
but i don’t think it’s all about getting into the top 15 of sports franchises necessarily. he does want to raise the value of the rams franchise for sure. but that could also be done by staying in st. louis and getting a new stadium. it doesn’t have to be just moving to los angeles.
InvaderRamModeratoroh dear. this secondary is gonna be bad. i had doubts about it even with tru healthy.
i’m not even sure how good a healthy janoris jenkins is gonna be.
InvaderRamModeratori kind of agree with that. i think they’ll pick their spots. they won’t be wide open, but they’ll certainly pick their spots to go downfield. i don’t know if that means they’ll be an aggressive downfield offense.
on the nfl spectrum of offenses, they will tend to be on the conservative side whatever that means. they’ll be more seahawks than packers.
InvaderRamModeratorEven if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others. And whether it’s Chaos Theory, bad karma, a jinx, the baby Jesus or something else at work, I think it’s pretty safe to say that it’s NOT that Sam Bradford is brittle and breaks easily.
well i’m not sure what this means then. or is it that using the words “brittle” and “breaks easily” is inflammatory?
InvaderRamModeratori think the best they can do is keep drafting qbs. well. i guess that’d be true regardless.
at this point what can you do anyway? bradford is clearly a talented quarterback. he was throwing some lasers out there. and the rams don’t have a clear cut plan for another starting qb at this point. a heavy run based offense is necessary i think. to limit the exposure to sam for more hits.
trumaine johnson injury is more scary at this point. does joyner become the other starting cb if johnson is out?
InvaderRamModeratorsorry, mack. i gotta go with grits on this. bradford is not proving to be a durable guy. maybe his ligaments are just not that durable. i’m beginning to think it’s just a matter of when not if his next big injury comes.
hope i’m wrong.
InvaderRamModeratortru’s injury looked bad.
as far as sam. well. just gotta push forward. but i get this feeling that the guy is fragile.
InvaderRamModeratorgulp.
InvaderRamModeratoryes. oline. i want to see a healthy oline dominate in the running game today.
August 19, 2014 at 9:43 pm in reply to: Williams happy to wait for season to unveil his defense? #4426
InvaderRamModeratorcould it be that coaches are evaluating what the players are good at and what they aren’t good at. what good is constant blitzing when they want to figure out how good this team is in coverage? and figuring that out, they can adjust their scheme accordingly.
my only point is we don’t know what the coaches are trying to get out of these games. whether they do good or bad. i don’t think it means anything. i mean if they showed the whole defense in preseason and shut offenses out, i’m not sure that would even translate to success in the regular season.
InvaderRamModeratorgreg robinson is going up against some great dlinemen. this can only help him.
i find it kind of funny that a lot of the veterans come back to practice right after the second preseason game.
InvaderRamModeratorI think Fisher has been around this league far too long to feel like he “needs” to do anything, and from his press conference tomorrow he certainly doesn’t seem like someone who is the least bit concerned with what has happened thus far. I doubt that he cares one bit about the hand-wringing that goes on here, and he knows that almost nothing that has gone on in PS games 1 & 2 has any carry-over to September.
I suppose you people also think SF is going to go 0-16 and get outscored 24 – 456 this season? That’s what they are projected to do after two preseason games. Maybe the Rams are laughing at THEIR film?I think that Fisher has a six week plan to get the team ready for September 7th, and he doesn’t care what happens on August 23rd. And none of us will care what happens on August 23 if the Rams come out and win game 1. While it may make you sleep better to have them win next week, in the grand scheme of things it means nothing.
And I respectfully disagree that the Rams have looked any sloppier than all of the other teams. I have watched every team play at least one preseason game, and the level of play for all of the teams are comparable at this point. Every fan base in the NFL right now is complaining about missed tackles, and every fan base is fretting over perceived deficiencies culled from watching the starters play about 10 minutes of preseason ball. The Rams are not unique in this manner.
i think you’re right. and you know. i was complaining too about how ugly the game was on saturday. but upon reflection. this is what happens when you’re trying to limit contact to a minimum. and you’re trying to save your body for the real season.
so i’ll try and save my griping for when the games count.
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InvaderRamModeratori think sam has no chance of making this team.
i think greg robinson is gonna be a lot of fun to watch this season.
InvaderRamModeratori really don’t know that “turning it on” in the preseason will have any bearing on the regular season.
if they suck, they will suck in the regular season.
having said that. i would like the rams to have some of their regular starters back for the browns game and see an improvement in run blocking and run defense.
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