i also like the comment about the iowa and wisconsin systems. obviously was a factor when picking linemen as they anticipate needing them sooner than later. havenstein? hopefully he’ll be closer to pro ready than most rookies. they also picked that iowa lineman. can’t remember his name.

if gurley had gone and scherff was still on the board i think there would be a good chance of seeing both scherff and havenstein on this team.

well that’s the one thing we don’t know about. is gurley’s intelligence. that was one thing that stood out about faulk outside of his athletic talent. and while gurley may not possess the elite speed of peterson it may be what’s inside his head that could give him an edge.

how fast can gurley process information. his field vision. as well as his dedication to film study and learning the playbook.

wow. i’m really excited guys. it’s gonna be fun watching this young man grow each game.

not just seattle but tampa bay as well. i don’t believe they interviewed the victim at all. pretty disappointing but not the least bit surprising.

well i’m only basing my rankings on production and experience but yeah. they all bring different elements to the receiving corps. hopefully they are all able to complement each other.

one thing about adrian peterson. i don’t know if this was talked about, but he did not have a straight acl tear. he actually tore both his acl AND mcl. so it would appear at first glance that his knee injury was more traumatic than gurley’s which was only an acl tear.

this makes peterson’s recovery all the more miraculous in my opinion. but i also take a little bit of comfort in that i don’t believe that gurley’s climb to recovery is quite so steep.

of course, bradford had a straight acl tear, and he reinjured it on a freak hit to the knee. so no one can predict these things.

frank gore had two acl surgeries in college. he’s gone on to have a productive nfl career with little disruption due to injury. i think he had hip surgery but has otherwise been relatively healthy. of course there’s no telling how much he lost physically due to those two knee surgeries.

also.

i was thinking about gurley’s long speed. i’d venture to guess it’s around 4.5. not elite. but very solid. i estimate this partially based on his 100 meter time as a track and field star. he ran a 10.7 in the 100 meters. by comparison chris johnson ran a 10.38. adrian peterson ran a 10.26!!! i realize it’s hard to extrapolate based on this distance, but my point is that his long speed is probably not elite rather it is most likely very good. out of high school this one website listed gurley’s 40 time at a ridiculous 4.33. even if this is true (which i don’t think it is), it was done at 215 pounds. he’s added some weight since then, and i would expect his speed to go down some.

i don’t this is as important as his initial burst anyway. that’s what i’m really curious to know. it looks good on film, but it’d be nice to have a real number for comparison.

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laram wrote:

Derrick Mason didn’t have Quick, Austin, Bailey, Cook, & Britt to take balls from him either Invader.

WV’s point is valid!

true. but i do think he can reach 900 yards. i think that’s reachable. even with the ball being spread around. he’s got the most reliable hands, and when foles needs a first down, i’m thinking he’ll be looking for bailey.

curious as to what you think of gurley. luxury pick? too risky? ceiling? floor?

i don’t know. derrick mason had 1000 yard seasons from 2001-2004 with the titans.

i think it can be done. as long as foles stays healthy.

it depends on the fans. it depends on if the fans care enough. my guess is the nfl will be able to sweep this under the rug.

if the fans announce their displeasure though. the league will do something about it.

i think the key is a top 5 rushing offense. if the rams can do that, then we see something closer to the 2013 foles than the 2014 version.

and then yeah. i’m thinking playoffs… maybe not anything like 1999. but yeah. playoffs.

in order for that to happen, the oline has to be fixed, gurley has to be healthy, and gurley has to live up to the hype.

should be exciting.

Zooey wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

i want to say that while i like the ol prospects, i really only expect one starter from that group in year 1. havenstein at right tackle. center will come from one of their three prospects – jones, rhaney, or barnes. the right guard spot will be barksdale or some other free agent they sign or possibly jones.

the other rookies are developmental. no way they start them immediately unless they just absolutely knock he socks off the coaches, but that’s highly unlikely.

and again. i think the gurley pick was brilliant. they needed that type of talent on offense. absolutely needed it. now he just needs to fulfill his potential… no pressure…

I think they want Saffold at RG.

that sounds good. saffold and havenstein blowing open holes for mason and gurley.

center position is going to come from within too. we aren’t privy to that info, but they must feel confident with what they have there.

the big question then i guess is left guard.

but the oline is going along further than many of the experts seem to think. there’s a really solid nucleus forming there. robinson, saffold, and havenstein. there’s a lot of athleticism, power, and intangibles right there. the coaches and front office should be able to do enough development and roster churning to fill those two areas in. but it also comes down to chemistry. the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. and i think guys like robinson, saffold, and havenstein can affect that too. all are said to have good intangibles. leadership qualities. can they get this group to perform as a cohesive unit? they’re young, and they should all have something to prove. they’ll also be looking to get after defenses knowing they’ve got mason and gurley running behind them. they should be taking pride in that. how far can that take them?

i want to say that while i like the ol prospects, i really only expect one starter from that group in year 1. havenstein at right tackle. center will come from one of their three prospects – jones, rhaney, or barnes. the right guard spot will be barksdale or some other free agent they sign or possibly jones.

the other rookies are developmental. no way they start them immediately unless they just absolutely knock he socks off the coaches, but that’s highly unlikely.

and again. i think the gurley pick was brilliant. they needed that type of talent on offense. absolutely needed it. now he just needs to fulfill his potential… no pressure…