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InvaderRamModeratorbnw: Gays attacked for no good reason? There are countless knock out videos of black on white violence
zn: How are those 2 things related?
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i think he’s saying that there are instances of whites being attacked for no good reason
Yeah, that’s what he’s saying, but how is whites being attacked for no good reason related to gays being attacked for no good reason?
Most of the gays attacked would BE white.
And sexuality is not race.
It purports to offer a “turn the tables” symmetry, but there’s no symmetry and the tables didn’t turn.
If I said women often suffer harassment at work, is it much of a response to say yeah but latinos sometimes get unfairly ticketed for speeding?
my guess is what he’s trying to get at is there isn’t the same empathy from mainstream media from politicians for the working class white people who have been getting screwed over.
and yes one’s sexuality is not the same thing as one’s race. gender. also not the same thing as race.
and one can go back and forth about who’s got it worse. and let me be clear i am neither white nor working class nor gay. i’m a heterosexual white collar asian for whatever that’s worth.
but you have multiple groups who are continually getting screwed over. the working class, women, minorities… everyone wants to be heard. no one gets heard. and this is the result.
i think to a certain extent the white working class HAS been forgotten. we get for example shows trying to talk about the struggles of being a woman. being gay. transgender even. black.
but no shows about the struggles of the working class. there used to be. like roseanne for example.
and then you’re being told hey get with us we’re fighting for gender equality, rights for the lgbt community, minorities. and you’re thinking hey. my life is getting shittier and shittier. and you have this 2 party system. where these groups are being represented but you aren’t. and here comes this dude saying hey i’ll fight for you guys. it sucks. it sucks that it’s come to this.
me personally? it’s not going to happen. they think they’re going to be heard. but they’re not. and i hope. that the dems or someone further to the left comes along and says hey dudes. we hear your pain. come join us.
i thought it’d be bernie, but the dems screwed him over. and trump won.
now it’s almost a collective fuck you. it’s like hey now someone can give a shit about us.
i don’t agree with it. but i think i understand it.
InvaderRamModeratorGays attacked for no good reason? There are countless knock out videos of black on white violence
How are those 2 things related?
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i think he’s saying that there are instances of whites being attacked for no good reason.
does it happen? i know of instances where that has happened.
i’m not saying i agree with him. i don’t think one means that the other is ok.
i can’t speak for what it is like growing up as a working class white man. i also can’t speak to how it is growing up as a gay man.
i just know that there are worldviews so different from one another, i have no idea how you come to any compromise.
i blame it on an increasing disparity in wealth distribution. eliminate that and you see some of these problems disappear. that’s what i suspect anyway. when your security is threatened people start blaming the others. out of fear or whatever. i know it’s not that simple but it’s part of the problem. i think the problems lie MOSTLY upstairs and not down here.
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InvaderRamModeratorthey might be fools, but i think we’ll all look like even bigger fools four years down the road.
Possibly, but I doubt it.
well strap in cuz we’re about to find out.
InvaderRamModeratorthey might be fools, but i think we’ll all look like even bigger fools four years down the road.
InvaderRamModeratori would also add, the rams are not going to fix the running game, and the opponents won’t be as horrible as the jets.
InvaderRamModeratorI think that starting Goff isn’t about winning THIS year. If you honestly think you can make the playoffs, stay with Case. If not–make the switch.
this.
InvaderRamModeratorjust my opinion. but fisher’s wrong.
InvaderRamModeratorBack in the playoff hunt – kinda, sorta.
So, does Keenum start next week?
Not my QB. LOL
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bwahahaha!
awesome.
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InvaderRamModeratorpetty is starting.
yes. i don’t know how good the source is but reports are that fisher is ready to start Goff at some point.
November 13, 2016 at 12:11 pm in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #58094
InvaderRamModeratorglazer just reported that fisher is considering starting goff NEXT week depending on how they do today.
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November 12, 2016 at 8:29 pm in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58006
InvaderRamModerator“We’re not going to be involved in government,” Trump Jr told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in September on Good Morning America. “He wants nothing to do with [the company]. He wants to fix this country.”
oh, dear.
we won’t get fooled again?
November 12, 2016 at 7:25 pm in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #57995
InvaderRamModeratoris the democratic party capable of that kind of change?
this all reminds me of that who song.
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InvaderRamModeratorInteresting thoughts, Invader. I will mull them over.
Btw you said everyone on the board is ‘a decent human being’ — you are not including Zooey in that are you?
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vhaha. except for zooey. he is pure evil. his heart is dark and cold.
November 12, 2016 at 4:57 pm in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #57979
InvaderRamModeratori would want goff starting half this season. now maybe he’s not ready to start. and if that’s the case then that worries me.
but maybe fisher is a little more conservative. or maybe i’m too impatient. or they’re just different approaches.
but still. i’d like to see him get at least 8 games.
and not cuz i think he’d make a difference but to start preparing for next year.
InvaderRamModeratoror i should say rather on ALL sides.
ha!
InvaderRamModeratoryes. many many different sides.
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You dont get into long hostile fights with politically-different-posters, Invader.
Care to share your approach? Or your purpose in posting pol-thots?
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vmy approach. i just try to go in with an open mind. i think the reasons everyone here is upset actually overlap in some places. and there are wide chasms in others. i guess i am not willing to stubbornly cling to my own ideas. more just curious as to why people believe what they believe? i guess ultimately. on a philosophical level we’re all just completely lost. we have our own belief systems. we have our own experiences that have shaped us, and i just sit here in wonderment at all the different opinions being put out here on this board. cuz i believe everyone here is decent (or at least decent as a human can be). i believe that on some level all the pain here and frustration is born out of caring. even if that can often be misguided.
and even if it does come from a place of hate. for some reason i’m ok with that too.
don’t ask me why. i don’t know. i can’t really explain it, and maybe it doesn’t even make any sense. maybe it’s cuz in the end i think that none of this even means anything.
i do know that people in general are hurting on both sides. just want to see where all that hurt is coming from. on both sides.
November 12, 2016 at 3:55 pm in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #57963
InvaderRamModeratorWentz, qb rating. Games 1-8.
1. W, qb rating 101.0
2. W, qb rating 86.6
3. W, qb rating 125.9
4. L, qb rating 102.8
5. L, qb rating 77.7
6. W, qb rating 52.4
7. L, qb rating 91.4
8. L, qb rating 64.5definitely up and down, but he hasn’t looked in over his head. and he’s learning. goff is 2 years younger and less experienced. so you gotta figure his learning curve is a little steeper.
November 12, 2016 at 3:51 pm in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #57961
InvaderRamModeratoryeah i don’t think it boils down to 2 possibilities, but nonetheless i’m starting to think the problem lies with one or the other or possibly even both. now many different factors can go into that. also. i could be wrong and neither is the problem, and there would be all sorts of reasons for that.
but yeah. now i’m in worry mode until goff gets his shot.
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InvaderRamModeratori can only imagine how donald would look with a healthy quinn.
InvaderRamModeratorThen you can raise a glass of piss and toast togetherness.
i gotta admit that made me laugh.
good to have a bunch of different voices. especially ones with a pretty gnarly sense of humor.
InvaderRamModeratoryes. many many different sides.
November 12, 2016 at 10:33 am in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #57884
InvaderRamModeratormy confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.
this is beginning to be a bunch of bullshit.
I don’t buy the stuff they’re peddling there, IR.
Just my 2 cents.
well. we’ll see.
November 12, 2016 at 9:53 am in reply to: Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game. #57868
InvaderRamModeratormy confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.
this is beginning to be a bunch of bullshit.
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InvaderRamModeratori am ok with protesting trump. but how about protesting the democrats too? how about telling them they need to get a better candidate than hillary clinton?
i almost feel like this plays into their hands.
we’ll watch the country fall apart the next 4 years, and the democrats will be smiling and say, “hey. don’t worry. come back with us. we’ll take care of it…”
November 11, 2016 at 5:29 pm in reply to: As Ratings Plummet, N.F.L. Considers Reducing Ads and Length of Games #57781
InvaderRamModeratorthey should do it like soccer. no time stoppage. no timeouts. just let the clock roll. 2 halves.
November 11, 2016 at 5:22 pm in reply to: Quarterback controversy in L.A. is nothing new for the Rams #57779
InvaderRamModeratori know i said this before, but yeah. the calls for goff were loud. i went and saw the game on tv. the tv guys talked about it, but you couldn’t really hear it on tv the way it sounded live.
people want change…………….
hahahaha!
InvaderRamModeratori listened to the beginning. basically says that a lot of states were eliminating minority votes based only on first and last names – nevermind the fact that they had different middle names and different social security numbers.
InvaderRamModeratorin my opinion. he did more than that.
Like what? I’m not doubting you. Maybe I’m conveniently forgetting the hate-filled pejoratives he used to describe her as a human being.
i’m not talking about trashing hillary.
i’m talking about the manipulation of people’s fears.
it’s been hashed over again and again. so i don’t want to go over it another time.
i think hillary did similar things. i don’t like how her campaign seemed to center around don’t vote for trump or you’re a racist homophobic ass hole. i think it turned a lot of people off.
i wonder how bernie would have handled it. i don’t think he would have handled it the same way. i hope not.
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InvaderRamModeratorBut he did label her as corrupt and a crook.
in my opinion. he did more than that.
InvaderRamModeratorAnd so I find that we have descended and degenerated, from some far ancestor (some microscopic atom wandering at its pleasure between the mighty horizons of a drop of water perchance) insect by insect, animal by animal, reptile by reptile, down the long highway of smirchless innocence, till we have reached the bottom stage of development–nameable as the Human Being. Below us–nothing. Nothing but the Frenchman.
ja.
now i’m going to crawl into a hole for the next four years.
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