nittany ram wrote:

He is a Tony Mandarich level bust. Do you think he’ll be back with the Rams next year?

Mandarich was able to salvage a semblance of a career. Have to wait and see if GRob can.

with a new coach i guess anything is possible.

thinking about it. maybe not the biggest but top 5 at least of just rams draft picks in the past 20 years.

PA Ram wrote:

It sort of feels like they’re done with Robinson. Maybe the next coach will have a different take. But at least for now–they’re done with him.

Gurley REALLY bothers me. I hope the heck they can save him and bring him back. I just don’t get what’s going on with him at all. It isn’t ALL the o-line. I just don’t know.

Gurley has a 3.2 yard average.

Cunningham has a 4.8

Austin has a 5.7

That may or may not be fair but it just seems like Gurley is missing holes–if he’s looking at all because sometimes he seems to just put his helmet on the back of a lineman and surges forward, or he just doesn’t have the speed or quickness to break through. I am really concerned about him.

it’s not all the oline. i think the la lifestyle maybe was too much of a distraction? he’s gotta refocus this offseason or something. i hope he isn’t putting all the blame on the oline. he’s gotta take responsibility.

i want shanahan. i think he’d know what to do with gurley and goff.

and i want demoff to be banished from football operations.

wv wrote:

Greg Robinson benched again? Man. I dunno what to say about that guy.

Major disappointment. Gurley and Robinson — major disappointments.

I REALLY am interested in what the next coach does with regard to those two.

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grob has to go. i still hold out hope for gurley.

i keep asking but i’m not sure i got an answer but did boras keep the zbs from last year?

yeah mike shanahan didn’t make very good personnel decisions in denver.

maybe he’d be better if he wasn’t having to handle both head coach and general manager duties.

i find it interesting that fisher says he took the job knowing that there was a pending move to los angeles. even though the move was being denied at the time. not the biggest deal to me. i wouldn’t figure they’d tell the truth back then anyway.

i do agree with him about the qb situation. if bradford had stayed healthy, things might have been very different.

losing mcleod and jenkins was a huge blow. i would have let tavon go and at least signed one of those two. although i have to admit i was ok with the signing at the time. i figured this group would be more able to find and develop a db than a wr. looking back it was a bad signing. maybe a new coach will get more out of him. i doubt it though.

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the only thing i can say is that they are obviously trying to appeal to a new generation of fans. a generation maybe people like us don’t necessarily understand.

my guess is spanos has a bunch of market researchers doing a whole lot of work on this. whatever they recommend is likely what he’ll do.

that’s what intrigues me about shanahan. not only had he had a positive effect on qbs, he’s had a positive effect on rbs too.

gotta fix the oline though.

Agamemnon wrote:

I would prefer hiring the GM first, but hiring the coach first is OK, too. In fact, I prefer hiring Ron Wolfe and letting him set up football for the Rams. He can decide if he wants Demoff and Snead and how much they get to do in the football side. Who the GM or coach is, etc. Of the listed candidates, I guess I might like Kyle Shanahan?

i do want a football operations side, and i don’t want demoff to be part of that. if it was ron wolf i’d be ecstatic. demoff just has way too much power in this setup.

i don’t know about mike shanahan in that role. i mean i know he’s a superbowl winning head coach. i don’t know how he’d be as an executive.

Agamemnon wrote:

I don’t know how much credit belongs to Fisher vs Snead.

that to me is huge. we don’t know. how much of the grob and austin picks were fisher and how much were snead? but conversely how much credit does fisher get for picking donald and how much does snead get?

i would trust snead more in picking a coach than i would demoff.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

dak prescott is still playing well. i don’t necessarily buy the argument that he’s being propped up by the offensive line and elliot. certainly it makes a difference but not THAT much of a difference.

Read the first post, this thread. It isn’t just that he’s propped up by those things. Dallas limits what they let Prescott do. They have enough of an offense around him so that they can scale what they ask of him way back.

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no i understand. i still don’t agree.

he still has to make plays. i’ll put it this way. put carson wentz or jared goff in that offense, and i’m not entirely convinced they’d be better. even while scaling back their responsibilities. or maybe even as good.

i think it’s too early to give definite marks on guys like gurley, goff, and the offensive linemen.

free agency is important, but the team will be handcuffed until 2018. it’s important that they develop the talent they currently have. some of the linemen i feel have talent. gurley and goff i think still have tons of potential.

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nittany ram wrote:

Part of me wishes they hadn’t fired Fisher – just forced him to get a new OC like Turner or somebody. He may have fired Boras at the end of the season on his own anyway.

well that’s the pr part of this move.

some of this came down to being able to sell a new stadium in 2017. i’m curious as to what could have been done with a veteran oc. then again fisher could have done that this year.

what would have been interesting too is if fisher hired shanahan as the offensive coordinator. i believe he interviewed for the job.

i look at the continuity there. he hired a qb coach he worked with at washington. the oline coach was from seattle. worked under cable who worked under gibbs.

there seems to be a shared vision there on the falcons offense. everyone is on the same page.

what can we say about the rams offense? were they just parts slapped together by jeff? did they even come from the same system? does that matter?

certainly a lot of it was a pr move.

but while i can’t speak for them, i was getting tired of the fact that there just was no rhythm or rhyme to this offense. after 5 years it just didn’t seem like they had any idea what they wanted to do. that boras hire was just bad.