zn wrote:

TrenchRam wrote:

The Raiders are feeling pretty good about themselves about now.

Not really. People are turning the Raiders thing into urban legend. They said they thought the left shoulder needed surgery. In fact Saffold got that surgery. The Raiders said nothing about the right shoulder or RS’s injury history in general. They just said, no we don’t like his left shoulder. Assigning them this blanket insight isn’t accurate. If the left shoulder had already been surgically repaired they would have signed him. Then they would have been stuck with the later, different right shoulder injury.

I think maybe the Raiders are feeling good about themselves because they avoided being strapped to a very pricey contract with a player that cannot stay on the field rather than the “We told you so” angle. For the money they made the right decision.

zn wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Yup they truly suck, worst line on a whole I can remember

I beg to differ.

The injury massacred OLs of 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011 were far, far worse.

Not only were they bad, they had no hope whatsoever of getting better.

This OL at least shows in fits and starts that it is on the road to being a good one.

I don’t know if you could find stats for lines pressured by dropbacks that far back but in the NFL there is no “far , far worse.” than 32nd in the league.Plus with the obvious exception of perma-injured Saffold they are healthy ! I agree it can be fixed but the question for me is whether or not it will be.Luckily the schedule lightens up and the bye after the asswhippin they took in GB gives hope.

zn wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Foles had a terrible game but he did not get much help.

I don’t think anyone sees it differently.

But as I said, not giving the qb much help is an old old Rams story.

Yet nobody, not even Null or Boller, threw for 11 of 30 and 4 INTs.

So “no help for the qb” is like I said an old Rams story, but this one was especially bad by the qb on top of it.

And still I am not giving up on Foles. He can do it, we’ve seen it.

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What matter is it the age of the story? It’s still a problem. Who knows what other Ram qbs facing the beating Foles took would do. IMO most of them would have been knocked out of the game in the first half. If your point is “that happens all the time” I disagree .It wasn’t that bad against Seattle or the Cards.

Imagine what Gurley could do with a competent OL. I can’t blame it on the rookies either, they both looked to be better than Robinson ,Reynolds and Barns.

I thought JL had a great game.

Zooey wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Fisher is an idiot when it comes to wr’s. Maybe wait until Quick actually plays a game or two. A two years into the future 7th on the youngest team in the league stacked with 1s and 2s doesn’t bode well for future Rams teams though it does strengthen his legacy of failure.

Givens is in his last year. He hasn’t done anything to earn a second contract here. So Givens is gone after this season anyway.

So far this season: 1 Rec 7 yds.

Quick is better.

Quick is certainly better in this offense , a great blocker, should really help the struggling outside zone run scheme but they have an open roster spot and going up against the “no fly zone” Givens could’ve been a benefit running 9’s Givens lack of production wasn’t his fault. They just didn’t target him much , his career stats are close to double those of Quick’s if you are basing earning a contract on production. I can be happy for Givens knowing he’ll have Flacco’s cannon getting him the ball in the deep game he has been so effective in.

I would prefer if they full on tanked and Fisher is sent packing.4 years is enough of this for me. The window on this defense won’t last forever and Fisher to me anyway seems like he’s got all the time in the world ,zero urgency.

Of course both Cook and GRob follow with false starts

I think it’s because Cook is just plain stupid

Dak wrote:

Thursday on the road, against a Giants team that owned Washington last year. The ‘Skins should have had more reason to be up for this game, but so did the Giants, who HAD to win this game.

I didn’t see the Redskins game. I had a big work commitment over the weekend and completely forgot to record it. So, I can’t say much about how the Rams played. Judging by what I heard after the game, I’m glad I didn’t record it.

If you still have any recording from 14′ 13′ or 12′ they would be close. It was that team that showed up.

Just listened to a Steeler’s podcast The guy says Tru doesn’t even belong in the league and is a complete bum ? A very strong opinion I have to question what he bases it on. This season he has been better than any cb on the Steelers. The whole group dismissed the Rams secondary of any value at all.

Fisher just can’t pull a team together. How many times in his interviews and on his show has he emphatically stated “They know” well they obviously don’t know and neither does he . I’ve had it. 4 years of this shit ,it’s unacceptable.

Yeah and he could always cover but now he tackles………. Beast Mode………. in the open field ……..by himself !!!!!!!!!!

I watched the Washington game 1st half and they are no joke. They can run it , good OL decent D. They were shutting out Miami 10-0 till right before half time. This isn’t last year’s Washington team.

Zooey wrote:

He had a couple of bad passes. Just flat out missed throws.

But then he did things like stick it to Bailey with Sherman and a safety all over him.

And lead a TD drive in the last minute.

I will take it.

TA had Sherman beat but had to hold up to wait for the ball. It was clearly PI.TA’s routes are better and he’s getting open ,becoming a complete wr. Did Givens even play ?