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Senior Bowl interview.
Miami safety Kamren Kinchens speaks after Senior Bowl practice
VIDEO by @FF_TravisM
— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) January 31, 2024
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8.97 Kinchens, Kamren |Miami| Miami, FL| Proj. Rd: 1-2. Height:5112|Weight:203|40:4.65|Arm:0934|Wingspan:7500
Junior entry, two-year starter. First team all ACC in 2022 and 2023. He was consensus first-team all America in 2022. Has a solid frame for a safety and while he’s not the tallest his catch radius gets him to a lot of balls. An instinctive and highly productive safety with remarkable range and ball skills. He’s been a force as a one high safety, but also has experience in two high looks and rolling to the outside box. A smooth mover with fluid Easy transitions he has solid change of directions skill and ability to accelerate out of a break. As a deep zone defender, he normally has eye discipline to see pattern, pressure and the quarterback delivery key. He’s sudden breaking on throws in front of him show sideline to sideline range and the ability to track the ball with flawless angles on deep outside throws. Has excellent hands for the interception with tremendous extension to the ball. He high points the ball and can take it away at the catch point. Has been used successfully to match and mirror inside receivers moving down in the box. Has the speed to stay in phase deep. In run support he triggers quickly against the run and gets downhill with solid angles to the ball. He has excellent range and pursuit and track ball carrier across the field. Show solid, fundamental tackling skill, accelerating and driving through tackles in space. There’s some inconsistency processing root combinations as he can get attracted to an intermediate route instead of balancing or staying deep. As a cover to safety at times doesn’t see and multiple receivers and gets out of position. Needs consistency processing. Has the tools of a solid NFL safety. 2023 stats: 59 T, 2.5 TFL, a lot of things1 sack, 5 PBU, 5 INT (1 TD). OSR: 20/20.
ME: He is Ourlads 2nd ranked safety.
Pat Kirwin, commented on his slow 40, but said somehow he is still all over the field. He called him “a baiter,” in that he entices QB’s into throwing by appearing to be looking elsewhere.said that he studied Ed Reed
Kamren Kinchens S/DB Miami
by • February 28, 2024
STRENGTHS
Kamren is your typical tackling heat-seeking missile, throwing his body around to make the big hit. He has excellent athletic talent and instincts to make the big tackle or play on the ball. He shows good hands to make the interception and the speed sideline to sideline, to be used as a single safety. Kamren can be used up close to the line of scrimmage because of his passionate tackling and speed to be used off the ball to blitz. He is quick to make tackles like an outside linebacker on sweeps and screens and can intimidate a player who is prone to fumbling in the open field. Kamren is a natural two-deep zone safety with the ability to be used close to the line of scrimmage as a zone defender in nickel situations. Kamren can be a big play defensive back for the team that selects him.CONCERNS
There are concerns and 1st on the list is medical. Number two on the list is his style of tackling and how that style leads to injuries. He is not a sure tackler, going head first to tackle and looking for the big hit. When he comes from deep to make a tackle it’s impressive but it is also disturbing. I think he has the athletic talent to cover but his mental makeup to make the big play, will not allow him to stay with the receiver down the field long enough without leaving them to make a big play on another receiver. If I’m right, he will be taken advantage of if used as a cover safety unless he can learn that he is not the only player on the field.BOTTOM LINE: 2.17
Kamren’s tackling style is a big concern. Anything else depends on how a team wants to use him in their defense. I don’t think you should expect him to be a great cover safety, and if that’s what you want in a safety then there are others in this draft that might be a better fit. If you want a safety who can be used as a robber or a natural 2 deep zone safety then Kamren should be the first one on your board. He has the talent to impact in that style of defense. I suspect his medicals, tackling style, and possible lack of coverage ability will affect his draft status for most teams unless he proves he does have the cover skills to impact in any style of defense.Kirwin, not mKirqin. I stopped listening to mKirqin a long time ago.
Rick Neuheisel loves the pick mKirqin and Miller call him a north-south runner with a great fit for McVay’s offense.
Good. They need a good RB and in spite of KW, odds of getting one after round 3 are very small. I said this a lot before, but KW was dinged up twice last year (once in the Lions game) & when he missed games they went 1/3. They need a 1B back, & no one they already have fills the bill. Now they can share the load.
Yeah, and when Williams was out for a couple of games last year, the offense took a big step backward. I like this pick a lot.
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Blake Corum RB Michigan
by • 2024-03-15 March 15, 2024
STRENGTHS
Blake is a strong multi-talented running back who reminds me a lot of former Giants Joe Morris – 2nd RD 1982. Look him up, I can’t do everything for you. Blake is an every-down running back, with hidden talents not used often enough by his college team. He is strong and yet extremely shifty, and tackling him in the open field is like trying to catch Rodger Rabbit with your hands. He has quick feet, excellent vision, and balance, and can break tackles when he needs to. He is also able to jump right or left while still going forward, (at least it seems that way). Blake is excellent as a check-down receiver and has hidden talents catching the ball like a slot receiver down the field. He is very smart and understands situational football and down-and-distance situations. He is very competitive to go along with that athletic talent and high football IQ. As I stated before he is an ever-down running back and don’t believe otherwise.CONCERNS
Teams will downgrade Blake because of the value of his position and his size. The value of this position is starting to rise based on all the Free agent Running backs signed this year. As far as his size, it’s a gift and a curse. A curse, because teams will use it as an excuse to downgrade him. A gift, because linebackers can not see him behind those big offensive linemen and have no idea where he is in the backfield to tackle him. When I look at the film, I don’t see anyone tackling him behind the line of scrimmage unless it was by mistake and they got lucky and guessed where he was. Blake will struggle to pass block because of his size but it will not be because of a lack of effort.BOTTOM LINE: 2.13
Blake is the perfect reason why Rob and I invented the 2-board system. It’s to show you that in every round, there are potential impact players, who fall to those rounds because of not meeting the norms and standards of a position. They also fall because of team needs based on the value of a position or based on the style of offense or defense they run. Players might also fall to later rounds because there is a plethora of talent at their position. I base my Bottom line score on talent and where I might pick a player in a draft, and how quickly I think that player can impact at the next level. I do not try to tell you what round a player might actually be selected in…that’s Rob’s job. Rob and I do not interact with each other before the draft on what I might think about a player’s potential to impact or what he thinks about what round a player will be selected. Simply put, Blake is a running back who can do everything on the field effectively except maybe pass block. Look at Rob’s board for what round Blake, most likely will be selected in with an over 80% accuracy, then remember this profile after he is on the field making an impact.The #Rams trade up to select @bradenfiske55 No. 39 overall in the #NFLDraft.
Fiske stood out at the combine and Senior Bowl. His power and high motor give him a chance to end up as the best defensive tackle in this draft class.
📽️Full Senior Bowl exclusive with Fiske: pic.twitter.com/FWGOF0oBNs
— Luke Winstel (@lukewinstel) April 27, 2024
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Braden Fiske DL Florida St
by • “2024-01-29″January 29, 2024
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STRENGTHS
At 300 lbs, Braden explodes off the line of scrimmage like a volcanic eruption. He can get into the backfield and disrupt the rhythm of a play, and pressure a quarterback quicker than an angry hippo. Braden is stout against the run and what he lacks in techniques, he makes up for with unwavering effort on every play. Braden has good foot speed for his size, and can be used on stunts. He has solid lateral agility to defend from hash mark to hash mark. He has the size and athletic talent to play more than one position on the defensive line and in different styles of lines. Braden works well with his linemates and understands what is expected of him on each play. His ability to stop the run and to rush the passer, along with his effort on every play should make him be considered as one of the top Defensive linemen in this draft.CONCERNS
Braden struggles to handle double teams. He also loses balance at times when rushing the passer when he explodes off the line in that angry hippo-like fashion. Braden also must improve in getting off his blocks when pass-rushing and develop some second moves. Nevertheless, these are all concerns that I’m sure Braden will address because of his excellent work ethic.BOTTOM LINE: 1.86
Braden has been invited to the Senior Bowl and it’s my guess his workouts will be similar to Aaron Donald’s when he came out. The difference is, Aaron was much more of a finished player and Braden still needs development. That being said, Braden has too much athletic talent to pass up for too long along. His effort on every play and the fact he should be able to play more than one defensive line position, has me thinking that teams might want to select him early in this draft. After all, he stops the run, and rushes the passer with effort on every play… what more can you ask from a 6’5” 300lb football player? My guess is that Braden might not have the statistics as Aaron Donald has had in his career but I am convinced, he will be an impact player and the type of player who is a 4th quarter player and a big game player. Just give him a little time in an NFL strength and conditioning program and a good position coach. Check Rob’s value board to see the most likely round Braden should be selected in, it should be interesting.At the 2022 Cheez-it Bowl
Jared Verse dominated the Cheez-It Bowl for Florida State… ends it with a sack on this nasty speed-to-power.
He was part of three sacks tonight plus a massive TFL. That’s a first-round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft if he declares. Stud status for the Albany transfer. pic.twitter.com/vG0JHYXdsC
— Bobby Football (@Rob__Paul) December 30, 2022
Florida State’s Jared Verse is one of my fav prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft… don’t leave him unblocked because he’s just so explosive.
Already has two key pressures to go with this massive TFL in the first half of the Cheez-It Bowl. pic.twitter.com/VCubmixx5b
— Bobby Football (@Rob__Paul) December 29, 2022
New Rams edge rusher Jared Verse said he had a zoom call a few years ago with Aaron Donald set up by Albany HC Greg Gattuso, who coached Donald eat Pittsburgh. Verse said he’s embracing the pressure to help fill the void left by Donald. pic.twitter.com/cojZM8VTqk
— Eric Williams (@eric_d_williams) April 26, 2024
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9.58 Verse, Jared|Florida State| Dayton, OH| Proj Rd. 1
Height: 6037|Weight: 254| 40:4.58|Arm: 3312|Hand:0978|Wingspan:7912
Three year starter.First-team All-ACC the past two years, consensus first-team All-America and Florida State defensive MVP in 2022 and 2023. Above average length with a frame that plays well on the edge. Somewhat high cut which can inhibit quick change of direction. Powerful and athletic with an explosive first step and outstanding chase ability. Plays with a high motor and is relentless in pursuit teams have to scheme to account for his quickness and speed. Shows solid bend and squeeze to get around the corner along with agility to adjust a quarterback movement. Has a wide variety of past Rush moves, including a bull rush into a move arm under spin, push pull and cross chop. Quickness and agility allow him to counter inside versus oversetting tackles. Moves well, laterally and has range to chase down perimeter runs. Has knee and ankle band to get under tackles and drive them back on a bull rush or separating from a block playing the run. Not the most instinctive playing the run as he is vulnerable to blocks coming from the inside. Has a tendency to get too far up field opening up a running lane. May lack ideal flexibility as at times he can get stalemated upright versus a powerful tackle. Will also run around blocks at times losing gap control. Had a somewhat slow start last fall and has shown some inconsistency with some quiet times early in the season. Came on strong as the season progressed and demonstrated elite prospect, skill, and production. Has what NFL teams want in an edge defender. 2023 Stats: 41 T, 12.5 TFL, 9 sacks, 3 PBU, 11 QBH, 1 FF, 1 BK. OSR: 1/41.
Me: FWIW, Ourlads has Verse as their first ranked edge rusher, followed by Turner, Chip Robinson and Latu. My personal favourite, Darius Robinson is number 6.
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Jared Verse ER/DL Florida St
by • 2024-01-29 January 29, 2024
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STRENGTHS
Jared reminds me a lot of former New Jersey Giants ER Justin Tuck. He is a power pass rusher using leverage, explosiveness, and effort to defeat his blocker. Jared is strong against the run and can set the edge. He changes the line of scrimmage in his favor on almost every play, and that means he is in the backfield, and around the ball in any down-and-distance situation. Jared is strong enough with good bulk and explosiveness from a three-point stance, to be moved inside on passing downs allowing teams to get another pass rusher on the field. He is a team player but if your team needs a sack, and the coaches tell this dog to hunt…this dog will hunt and not stop until he gets his prey.CONCERNS
Jared is more explosive off the line and has better leverage to defeat his blocker from a three-point stance instead of standing up. Standing up he struggles to defeat the blocker and double teams, giving up his chest and leverage off the snap of the ball. From a three-point stance, he fires out with the explosiveness needed to defeat single or double blockers. This will affect Jared’s draft status with the teams that prefer an Edge Rusher who can work from any stance and any style of defensive front.BOTTOM LINE: 1.54
Jared is a plug-and-play 4/3 defensive end very much like Justin Tucker was. If you stood Justin Tucker up, he struggled to pressure the quarterback. That being said, you put Justin Tucker in a three-point stance and he was like a hurricane coming off the edge making teams call in Homeland Security to deal with the aftermath. Jared Verse is that same style of player. The type of player that doesn’t turn the corner to pressure the quarterback when coming off the edge, they destroy the corner and scare the living crap out of the quarterback when they come off the edge. I’m profiling Jared as a ten to eleven sacks a year Edge Rusher, with the ability to stop the run, and have numerous tackles behind the line of scrimmage for about 8 years in a row. A coach’s favorite, a teammate’s favorite, and a fan’s favorite. That being said, he most likely will not receive that many NFL awards just like Justin Tuck did not. Nevertheless, Justin Tuck is a two-time Super Bowl Champion…enough said. For you younger Draftniks, think of Chiefs George Karlaftis who no one but the fans, coaches, and teammates appreciated this year.Thanks, zn. I will use this as a reference if I’m ever brave enough to post outside articles/links again
if memory serves I think that Kam Curl article actually showed up later. Although, maybe I’m misremembering and posted it again or posted a different one.
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