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3.50 Karty, Joshua| Stanford| Burlington, NC| Proj Rd: 7 PFA. Height:6017| Weight: 207 |40: n/a | Arm: 5112| Hand: 0918| Wingspan: 7638
Three year starter. First team All-PAC 12 and 2023 and 2022. All America in 2022. H e overcame a poor start to his career in 2021 ending his career as the single-season record holder in made attempts for the program. He made 85% of his attempts, more than half of the misses coming in his first year as the starter. He is near automatic on kickoffs. 2023 stats 21/21PAT, 23/27FG, KO 64.7 avg.
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6.98 Davis, Tyler |Clemson| Apopka, FL| Proj Rd: 3-4. Height:6020 | Weight: 301| 40:5.02| Arm:3138| Hand: 0914|Wingspan:7500
Four year starter. Four time all ACC and three time 1st team all ACC in 2021 through 2023. Consensus all America in 2022. Compact thick frame to go with athleticism for an interior defender. After phenomenal freshman year in 2019 he suffered through injuries in 2020 and a good portion of 2021. He was healthy for the most of part in 2022 and 2023 and he flashed the ability that made him an elite prospect. Powerful at the point of attack with a high motor and effort to the ball. At the snap, he can penetrate gaps showing body control to work through the slip blocks. Physical attacking a block, he uses a strong punch to separate along with a violent rip move to shed. Excellent lateral agility, he can redirect off the block and react to an agile ball carrier in traffic Has range in pursuit and his hot motor is on display chasing across the field, his physical tackling and can stop a ball carrier in his tracks. As a pass rusher he’s quick at the snap and shoots his into a blocker to stun before working into a move. Can be relentless working the edge of a blocker and using an arm under or push pull off the bull rush to escape. Once free he can chase and adjust to the quarterback. His lack of length is not an obvious hindrance, but it shows up at times working through a block. Has problems with double teams and is occasionally washed out. Doesn’t always maintain leverage and his pad level can get upright at times. The injury question lingers, but he has shown elite skill and has been a highly productive player. 2023 stats : 34 T, 3.5 TFL, .5 sack, 3 QBH. OSR: 38/41.
canadaramParticipantRams get WAZZU's Brennan Jackson. Underrated edge who elicited quite the coach quote: “People aren’t talking about this guy enough. I think he’s a knock-your-face-off run defender and like a disruptive caveman as a pass rusher." https://t.co/stZohbH0K5https://t.co/stZohbH0K5
— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) April 27, 2024
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Jackson, Brennan |Washington State| Temecula, CA | Proj Rd: 4-5. Height:6037| Weight:264| 40:4.69| Arm:3234| Hand: 0934| Wingspan: 7834
Four year starter. Second-team AllxPac 12 in 2023. Has played six seasons counting redshirt year. Has desired height and decent physical attributes for the edge although wingspan is a little short. Has played wide nine from a two and three point along with three and five technique. Plays with an incredible motor that doesn’t quit until the whistle. Can be found making plays downfield after rushing the passer. Second effort plays are common. Flashes quickness at the snap but his power engaging is what is notable. Gets his hands into blockers with knee bend and solid pop to gain separation. Jets off blocks with push pull or stun and go. Consistently makes plays on the edge and can sift in line on an inside run. As a pass rusher is more of a one speed power rusher that lacks finesse. That said he’s been effective through tackles outside and bending the corner to the quarterback. Relentless in pursuit he stays with it even when blocked and has made several second effort plays. He lacks and array of moves and just charges as hard as he can with a bull rush and bend and squeeze if squared up. He’s always near the ball with his charge and second effort, but can get locked up by a powerful athletic tackle. His hard charging style can cause him to lose his gap and get taken out of the play. Will need to develop more in the pass rush to be effective in the NFL. Teams may see him differently, but his motor and power give him a shot as a rotational player at defensive end. 2023 stats: 57 T., 12.5 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 3 PBU, 9 QBH, 1 FF, 3 fumble recovery, TD, OSR:19/41.
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Me: there is a definite theme of versatility along the defensive front for this year’s Rams draft. Also, adjectives like relentless and high motor/effort have been used to describe each draft pick so far.
canadaramParticipantDraft 6 kickers and let the chips fall where they may.
canadaramParticipantWell I fixed it. So I don’t know what the issue is.
I honestly think that it’s me. I’m a bit of an idiot.
canadaramParticipantEditing in a comment to test zn’s theory
Happy birthday, Larry Linville (1939 – 2000), M*A*S*H’s Major Frank Burns.#mash #mash4077 #ClassicMASH pic.twitter.com/ohzfKgJVMx
— The M*A*S*H Historian (@MASHhistorian) September 29, 2023
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canadaramParticipantOk.
Frank Burns always manages to mess things up.
canadaramParticipantcanadaramParticipantIt’s enjoyable watching Kam Kinchens (#5) play football. The Senior Bowl can go a long way in cementing him as the top safety in this class
— Anthony Cover 1 (@Pro__Ant) January 26, 2024
canadaramParticipantSenior Bowl interview.
Miami safety Kamren Kinchens speaks after Senior Bowl practice
VIDEO by @FF_TravisM
— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) January 31, 2024
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8.97 Kinchens, Kamren |Miami| Miami, FL| Proj. Rd: 1-2. Height:5112|Weight:203|40:4.65|Arm:0934|Wingspan:7500
Junior entry, two-year starter. First team all ACC in 2022 and 2023. He was consensus first-team all America in 2022. Has a solid frame for a safety and while he’s not the tallest his catch radius gets him to a lot of balls. An instinctive and highly productive safety with remarkable range and ball skills. He’s been a force as a one high safety, but also has experience in two high looks and rolling to the outside box. A smooth mover with fluid Easy transitions he has solid change of directions skill and ability to accelerate out of a break. As a deep zone defender, he normally has eye discipline to see pattern, pressure and the quarterback delivery key. He’s sudden breaking on throws in front of him show sideline to sideline range and the ability to track the ball with flawless angles on deep outside throws. Has excellent hands for the interception with tremendous extension to the ball. He high points the ball and can take it away at the catch point. Has been used successfully to match and mirror inside receivers moving down in the box. Has the speed to stay in phase deep. In run support he triggers quickly against the run and gets downhill with solid angles to the ball. He has excellent range and pursuit and track ball carrier across the field. Show solid, fundamental tackling skill, accelerating and driving through tackles in space. There’s some inconsistency processing root combinations as he can get attracted to an intermediate route instead of balancing or staying deep. As a cover to safety at times doesn’t see and multiple receivers and gets out of position. Needs consistency processing. Has the tools of a solid NFL safety. 2023 stats: 59 T, 2.5 TFL, a lot of things1 sack, 5 PBU, 5 INT (1 TD). OSR: 20/20.
ME: He is Ourlads 2nd ranked safety.
Pat Kirwin, commented on his slow 40, but said somehow he is still all over the field. He called him “a baiter,” in that he entices QB’s into throwing by appearing to be looking elsewhere.said that he studied Ed Reed
canadaramParticipantKamren Kinchens S/DB Miami
by Drew Boylhart • February 28, 2024
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Kamren is your typical tackling heat-seeking missile, throwing his body around to make the big hit. He has excellent athletic talent and instincts to make the big tackle or play on the ball. He shows good hands to make the interception and the speed sideline to sideline, to be used as a single safety. Kamren can be used up close to the line of scrimmage because of his passionate tackling and speed to be used off the ball to blitz. He is quick to make tackles like an outside linebacker on sweeps and screens and can intimidate a player who is prone to fumbling in the open field. Kamren is a natural two-deep zone safety with the ability to be used close to the line of scrimmage as a zone defender in nickel situations. Kamren can be a big play defensive back for the team that selects him.CONCERNS
There are concerns and 1st on the list is medical. Number two on the list is his style of tackling and how that style leads to injuries. He is not a sure tackler, going head first to tackle and looking for the big hit. When he comes from deep to make a tackle it’s impressive but it is also disturbing. I think he has the athletic talent to cover but his mental makeup to make the big play, will not allow him to stay with the receiver down the field long enough without leaving them to make a big play on another receiver. If I’m right, he will be taken advantage of if used as a cover safety unless he can learn that he is not the only player on the field.BOTTOM LINE: 2.17
Kamren’s tackling style is a big concern. Anything else depends on how a team wants to use him in their defense. I don’t think you should expect him to be a great cover safety, and if that’s what you want in a safety then there are others in this draft that might be a better fit. If you want a safety who can be used as a robber or a natural 2 deep zone safety then Kamren should be the first one on your board. He has the talent to impact in that style of defense. I suspect his medicals, tackling style, and possible lack of coverage ability will affect his draft status for most teams unless he proves he does have the cover skills to impact in any style of defense.- This reply was modified 7 months, 4 weeks ago by canadaram.
canadaramParticipantKirwin, not mKirqin. I stopped listening to mKirqin a long time ago.
Rick Neuheisel loves the pick mKirqin and Miller call him a north-south runner with a great fit for McVay’s offense.
Good. They need a good RB and in spite of KW, odds of getting one after round 3 are very small. I said this a lot before, but KW was dinged up twice last year (once in the Lions game) & when he missed games they went 1/3. They need a 1B back, & no one they already have fills the bill. Now they can share the load.
Yeah, and when Williams was out for a couple of games last year, the offense took a big step backward. I like this pick a lot.
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7.98 Corum, Blake| Michigan| Marshall, VA| Proj. Rd: Rd: 2-3 Height:5076| Weight: 216| 40: 4.39| Arm:3112| Hand:0914| Wingspan:7638
Three year starter. All America, the last two seasons and all Big Ten for three straight years. we go down in history as one of the most productive running backs in Michigan storied history. He finished top 10 in career yards and second in touchdowns and his 168 points scored in 2023 are a single-season conference record. His ability to bounce back from a knee injury that ended his 2022 season combined with several other leadership qualities will make him an easy guy to welcome to any organization. The question is how versatile can he be and if his tool set is good enough to be a feature back or simply a rushing weapon from the backfield group. Undersized from a height and radius perspective, but has a dense and heavy frame. Built low to ground and plays even lower. Difficult to target to square up. Precise jump cuts to go with quick stutter step footwork, and anticipation. This stems from his vision and to avoid the meet of contact From a defender. Can see the entire field and shows good decision-making and natural feel for spacing. Runs great tempo and knows precisely when to hit the gas. Can hit his top speed in a hurry. Gets the most out of every carry. Nose for the hidden yards, notably near the goal line. Widely known for his intangibles leadership and work ethic. Has not had the opportunity to show impact in the passing game, but has flashed necessary skill. Small frame will hinder his radius and ability to produce in past protection. Has some tightness in the hips that can shorten his strides. Hasn’t had a lot of yards after contact. May not have an elite skill set, but does most things well and that along with high motor effort should make him a productive player. 2023 stats: one 245 yards, 4.8 YPC, 27TD, 16 receptions, 117 yards, 7.3 yards ypr, 1 TD. OSR: 9/23.
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Blake Corum RB Michigan
by Drew Boylhart • 2024-03-15 March 15, 2024
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Blake is a strong multi-talented running back who reminds me a lot of former Giants Joe Morris – 2nd RD 1982. Look him up, I can’t do everything for you. Blake is an every-down running back, with hidden talents not used often enough by his college team. He is strong and yet extremely shifty, and tackling him in the open field is like trying to catch Rodger Rabbit with your hands. He has quick feet, excellent vision, and balance, and can break tackles when he needs to. He is also able to jump right or left while still going forward, (at least it seems that way). Blake is excellent as a check-down receiver and has hidden talents catching the ball like a slot receiver down the field. He is very smart and understands situational football and down-and-distance situations. He is very competitive to go along with that athletic talent and high football IQ. As I stated before he is an ever-down running back and don’t believe otherwise.CONCERNS
Teams will downgrade Blake because of the value of his position and his size. The value of this position is starting to rise based on all the Free agent Running backs signed this year. As far as his size, it’s a gift and a curse. A curse, because teams will use it as an excuse to downgrade him. A gift, because linebackers can not see him behind those big offensive linemen and have no idea where he is in the backfield to tackle him. When I look at the film, I don’t see anyone tackling him behind the line of scrimmage unless it was by mistake and they got lucky and guessed where he was. Blake will struggle to pass block because of his size but it will not be because of a lack of effort.BOTTOM LINE: 2.13
Blake is the perfect reason why Rob and I invented the 2-board system. It’s to show you that in every round, there are potential impact players, who fall to those rounds because of not meeting the norms and standards of a position. They also fall because of team needs based on the value of a position or based on the style of offense or defense they run. Players might also fall to later rounds because there is a plethora of talent at their position. I base my Bottom line score on talent and where I might pick a player in a draft, and how quickly I think that player can impact at the next level. I do not try to tell you what round a player might actually be selected in…that’s Rob’s job. Rob and I do not interact with each other before the draft on what I might think about a player’s potential to impact or what he thinks about what round a player will be selected. Simply put, Blake is a running back who can do everything on the field effectively except maybe pass block. Look at Rob’s board for what round Blake, most likely will be selected in with an over 80% accuracy, then remember this profile after he is on the field making an impact.- This reply was modified 7 months, 4 weeks ago by canadaram.
canadaramParticipantRick Neuheisel loves the pick mKirqin and Miller call him a north-south runner with a great fit for McVay’s offense.
canadaramParticipantThe #Rams trade up to select @bradenfiske55 No. 39 overall in the #NFLDraft.
Fiske stood out at the combine and Senior Bowl. His power and high motor give him a chance to end up as the best defensive tackle in this draft class.
📽️Full Senior Bowl exclusive with Fiske: pic.twitter.com/FWGOF0oBNs
— Luke Winstel (@lukewinstel) April 27, 2024
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8.32 Fiske, Braden| Florida State| Michigan City, IN| Proj Rd: 2-3 Height: 6035| Weight: 292| 40: 4.78|Arm: 3100| Hand: 0938| Wingspan: 7634
Four year starter. Transfer from Western Michigan prior to the 2023 season. Three time all conference selection, including second team honours in 2023 all over the front for Florida State most commonly aligns as the 2i, But has also played 3-technique, 4i, and on the edge. Possesses good height and fringe weight with a well-built, lower body and notably, short arms low pad level off the ball and engages with violence. Consistently lends his hands inside to win leverage. Functional strength at the point of attack to create push into the backfield and stands offensive lineman up regularly. a tenacious, high effort player who fights his way into the backfield with power and violent hand swipes. Utilizes a plethora of past rush moves to win, including a lethal club move and bull rush. He will punch elbows when offensive lineman attempt to engage to create a clear path to the backfield. Excellent lateral agility on stunts. Quick to close on the quarterback with phenomenal explosiveness. Against the run he controls the point versus solo blocks while peeking into the backfield to find the ball carrier. in one gap schemes squeezes his way into his gap where he becomes a wrecking ball behind the line of scrimmage. Set the edge with low pad, strength and ankle flexion. Uses a strong anchor when taking on double teams and gives up little space with a strong lower half. Makes tackles with good form and strength when his name is called. Displays a strong motor in pursuit and is hungry to make plays. in his hips, hinders his ability to change direction and redirect. Fringe ability to extension and disengage from blocks due to poor arm length. Gets stood up regularly, where he can get, knocked off his platform and lose his balance; of concern for a two gap defensive scheme. Can develop into a valuable starter. 2023 stats: 43 T, six sacks, 5 QBH. OSR: 13/41.
canadaramParticipantPat Kirwin, loves the pick for the Rams. Loves his versatility and motor. Jim Miller also loves him. Missed only one game his college career. Kirwin called him a “Dan Campbell guy.”
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Braden Fiske DL Florida St
by Drew Boylhart • “2024-01-29″January 29, 2024
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At 300 lbs, Braden explodes off the line of scrimmage like a volcanic eruption. He can get into the backfield and disrupt the rhythm of a play, and pressure a quarterback quicker than an angry hippo. Braden is stout against the run and what he lacks in techniques, he makes up for with unwavering effort on every play. Braden has good foot speed for his size, and can be used on stunts. He has solid lateral agility to defend from hash mark to hash mark. He has the size and athletic talent to play more than one position on the defensive line and in different styles of lines. Braden works well with his linemates and understands what is expected of him on each play. His ability to stop the run and to rush the passer, along with his effort on every play should make him be considered as one of the top Defensive linemen in this draft.CONCERNS
Braden struggles to handle double teams. He also loses balance at times when rushing the passer when he explodes off the line in that angry hippo-like fashion. Braden also must improve in getting off his blocks when pass-rushing and develop some second moves. Nevertheless, these are all concerns that I’m sure Braden will address because of his excellent work ethic.BOTTOM LINE: 1.86
Braden has been invited to the Senior Bowl and it’s my guess his workouts will be similar to Aaron Donald’s when he came out. The difference is, Aaron was much more of a finished player and Braden still needs development. That being said, Braden has too much athletic talent to pass up for too long along. His effort on every play and the fact he should be able to play more than one defensive line position, has me thinking that teams might want to select him early in this draft. After all, he stops the run, and rushes the passer with effort on every play… what more can you ask from a 6’5” 300lb football player? My guess is that Braden might not have the statistics as Aaron Donald has had in his career but I am convinced, he will be an impact player and the type of player who is a 4th quarter player and a big game player. Just give him a little time in an NFL strength and conditioning program and a good position coach. Check Rob’s value board to see the most likely round Braden should be selected in, it should be interesting.- This reply was modified 7 months, 4 weeks ago by canadaram.
canadaramParticipantI tried doing the post-and-edit-in a comment thing with my links and a post disappeared. 🤷♂️
canadaramParticipantFlorida State's Jared Verse emerged as one of college football's top talents last season, but what are his prospects for the NFL? @MoveTheSticks provides his initial scouting report on the edge rusher.https://t.co/QuUDROKWdg pic.twitter.com/7O5Tnt8eKW
— NFL Draft (@NFLDraft) July 7, 2023
canadaramParticipantAt the 2022 Cheez-it Bowl
Jared Verse dominated the Cheez-It Bowl for Florida State… ends it with a sack on this nasty speed-to-power.
He was part of three sacks tonight plus a massive TFL. That’s a first-round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft if he declares. Stud status for the Albany transfer. pic.twitter.com/vG0JHYXdsC
— Bobby Football (@Rob__Paul) December 30, 2022
Florida State’s Jared Verse is one of my fav prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft… don’t leave him unblocked because he’s just so explosive.
Already has two key pressures to go with this massive TFL in the first half of the Cheez-It Bowl. pic.twitter.com/VCubmixx5b
— Bobby Football (@Rob__Paul) December 29, 2022
canadaramParticipantNew Rams edge rusher Jared Verse said he had a zoom call a few years ago with Aaron Donald set up by Albany HC Greg Gattuso, who coached Donald eat Pittsburgh. Verse said he’s embracing the pressure to help fill the void left by Donald. pic.twitter.com/cojZM8VTqk
— Eric Williams (@eric_d_williams) April 26, 2024
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9.58 Verse, Jared|Florida State| Dayton, OH| Proj Rd. 1
Height: 6037|Weight: 254| 40:4.58|Arm: 3312|Hand:0978|Wingspan:7912
Three year starter.First-team All-ACC the past two years, consensus first-team All-America and Florida State defensive MVP in 2022 and 2023. Above average length with a frame that plays well on the edge. Somewhat high cut which can inhibit quick change of direction. Powerful and athletic with an explosive first step and outstanding chase ability. Plays with a high motor and is relentless in pursuit teams have to scheme to account for his quickness and speed. Shows solid bend and squeeze to get around the corner along with agility to adjust a quarterback movement. Has a wide variety of past Rush moves, including a bull rush into a move arm under spin, push pull and cross chop. Quickness and agility allow him to counter inside versus oversetting tackles. Moves well, laterally and has range to chase down perimeter runs. Has knee and ankle band to get under tackles and drive them back on a bull rush or separating from a block playing the run. Not the most instinctive playing the run as he is vulnerable to blocks coming from the inside. Has a tendency to get too far up field opening up a running lane. May lack ideal flexibility as at times he can get stalemated upright versus a powerful tackle. Will also run around blocks at times losing gap control. Had a somewhat slow start last fall and has shown some inconsistency with some quiet times early in the season. Came on strong as the season progressed and demonstrated elite prospect, skill, and production. Has what NFL teams want in an edge defender. 2023 Stats: 41 T, 12.5 TFL, 9 sacks, 3 PBU, 11 QBH, 1 FF, 1 BK. OSR: 1/41.
Me: FWIW, Ourlads has Verse as their first ranked edge rusher, followed by Turner, Chip Robinson and Latu. My personal favourite, Darius Robinson is number 6.
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Jared Verse ER/DL Florida St
by Drew Boylhart • 2024-01-29 January 29, 2024
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Jared reminds me a lot of former New Jersey Giants ER Justin Tuck. He is a power pass rusher using leverage, explosiveness, and effort to defeat his blocker. Jared is strong against the run and can set the edge. He changes the line of scrimmage in his favor on almost every play, and that means he is in the backfield, and around the ball in any down-and-distance situation. Jared is strong enough with good bulk and explosiveness from a three-point stance, to be moved inside on passing downs allowing teams to get another pass rusher on the field. He is a team player but if your team needs a sack, and the coaches tell this dog to hunt…this dog will hunt and not stop until he gets his prey.CONCERNS
Jared is more explosive off the line and has better leverage to defeat his blocker from a three-point stance instead of standing up. Standing up he struggles to defeat the blocker and double teams, giving up his chest and leverage off the snap of the ball. From a three-point stance, he fires out with the explosiveness needed to defeat single or double blockers. This will affect Jared’s draft status with the teams that prefer an Edge Rusher who can work from any stance and any style of defensive front.BOTTOM LINE: 1.54
Jared is a plug-and-play 4/3 defensive end very much like Justin Tucker was. If you stood Justin Tucker up, he struggled to pressure the quarterback. That being said, you put Justin Tucker in a three-point stance and he was like a hurricane coming off the edge making teams call in Homeland Security to deal with the aftermath. Jared Verse is that same style of player. The type of player that doesn’t turn the corner to pressure the quarterback when coming off the edge, they destroy the corner and scare the living crap out of the quarterback when they come off the edge. I’m profiling Jared as a ten to eleven sacks a year Edge Rusher, with the ability to stop the run, and have numerous tackles behind the line of scrimmage for about 8 years in a row. A coach’s favorite, a teammate’s favorite, and a fan’s favorite. That being said, he most likely will not receive that many NFL awards just like Justin Tuck did not. Nevertheless, Justin Tuck is a two-time Super Bowl Champion…enough said. For you younger Draftniks, think of Chiefs George Karlaftis who no one but the fans, coaches, and teammates appreciated this year.- This reply was modified 8 months ago by canadaram.
canadaramParticipantIs it at all conceivable that they draft an offensive player with the first pick? I dont think so. I dont care who drops on offense, I think they go DT or DE. I assume thats the consensus here. w v
I think it should be defense. The need along the front is pretty obvious, and given all the offensive players projected to go in the first round the Rams should be able draft a high calibre defender with their pick, or maybe even trading up. However, I can’t shake the feeling that they’re going to take an OT with their first pick.
canadaramParticipantif memory serves I think that Kam Curl article actually showed up later.
I saw it was being held by the anti-spam so I “approved” it. That’s why it appeared.
Thank you!
canadaramParticipantThanks, zn. I will use this as a reference if I’m ever brave enough to post outside articles/links again
if memory serves I think that Kam Curl article actually showed up later. Although, maybe I’m misremembering and posted it again or posted a different one.
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