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    JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
    Liam Coen has left the #Rams and is back with Kentucky. New OC incoming. Potentially new HC.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Obviously contingency plan at OC for the Rams will be predicated on whatever Sean McVay decides to do. If McVay stays, internal candidates for role include Thomas Brown and Zac Robinson, and externally had even heard about some interest in a veteran coach such as Frank Reich. twitter.com/jourdanrodrigu…
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    Jeezus.   I cant believe McV is thinking about quitting.

    Why cant we ever keep anything nice

     

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    dude needs to have a talk with dick vermeil. and they need to hire an experienced oc to take some more off mcvay’s plate.

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    dude needs to have a talk with dick vermeil. and they need to hire an experienced oc to take some more off mcvay’s plate.

    I wonder if McVay would actually be happier if someone helped him with some of the HC duties. I don’t know what I’m saying, though. I have no idea how those responsibilities could be delegated. Probably a dumb thought. It’s just that McVay loves the OC stuff. He’s really good at the HC stuff, too, but maybe that’s not his love. I dunno.

    I really appreciate the culture he has developed.

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    My top picks for the Rams, if McVay goes:

    Ryans and Brown. Both are highly respected league-wide, young, have the production, etc.

    Do not want them to go the old retread route, like a Payton.

    If they can’t hire Brown, I hope he lands a HC position this off-season, both for his own career, and because it’s a benefit to the Rams as well. Same for Morris, etc.

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    Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
    Sean McVay has work to do on staffing and one name to keep an eye on is a familiar one—ex-Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur.
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    NFL compensatory picks for minority coaches and executives explained

    The news that the Lions are hiring longtime Rams executive Brad Holmes as Detroit’s new general manager means that for the first time, the league’s new rule rewarding teams that help develop minority coaches and executives will be put into place.

    Holmes is a minority, so the Rams will now receive a third-round compensatory pick in both the 2021 NFL draft and the 2022 NFL draft for losing Holmes.

    Those third-round picks will come after the compensatory picks that are awarded to teams for losing free agent players. We don’t yet know how many third-round compensatory picks will be awarded for losing free agents, but if there were five regular third-round compensatory picks, those would be picks Nos. 97-101. Then the first compensatory pick for losing a minority player or executive would be No. 102.

    If multiple teams lose minority coaches or executives, multiple third-round compensatory picks will be awarded. They’ll be awarded in the same order that teams choose in the draft, so the team that’s higher in the draft order would also be higher in the compensatory pick order.

    These compensatory picks are in addition to the 32 compensatory picks that are regularly awarded. So while the draft would typically have 256 overall picks (32 in each of seven rounds, plus 32 compensatory picks), there can now be more than 256 picks because of the additional compensatory picks.

    The full text of the NFL resolution is below:

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    Ejiro Evero (might be an HC, might not be granted DC interview w/ LA)

    Reminder. Evero is a former Rams DB coach. His Denver D this season was 14th in points, 7th in yards. Denver wanted him because he’s part of the Fangio tree:

    Broncos’ DC Ejiro Evero Opted to Keep This Vic Fangio Doctrine in Place

    https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/ejiro-evero-keeping-vic-fangio-defense-terminology

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    This is his history with the Rams:

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    ZN,

    Thanks for the reminder regarding Evero. I’d be happy with that choice. It’s also my view that the Secondary is a problem area for the Rams. It needs serious focus this year.

    If I read Jourdan correctly, McVay is all in on the Fangio system, so a student of his game (with his own successes) would be a plus plus. Extra plus that he’s relatively young (42), and a minority.

    I think it also helps morale to hire/promote from within, or someone recently in the building. McVay has perhaps gone outside too often. Arguable, at least.

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    Chris Mortensen@mortreport
    If Frank Reich does not land a HC job, he is an obvious candidate for the @Chargers OC, and that’s been speculated in past month or so. He’s been with @Chargers previously, he would bring head coach experience to staff and his integrity is unquestioned.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Reich was a name I heard for Rams when there was uncertainty whether McVay would be back. It would certainly be interesting if McVay got bullish on the idea of a LaFleur hire and Reich ended up with the Chargers. But, it makes sense w/ playcalling available to a LAC OC.
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    https://theathletic.com/4105120/2023/01/18/la-rams-coaching-staff-changes-sean-mcvay/

    The Los Angeles Rams will see significant changes on their coaching staff as eight members will not return next season, multiple team and league sources told The Athletic. Here’s what you need to know: 

    • Special teams coach Joe DeCamillis, offensive line coach Kevin Carberry, defensive backs coach Jonathan Cooley, assistant defensive line coach Skyler Jones and defensive assistant Lance Schulters were all let go. Outside linebackers coach Thad Bogardus’ contract was up and won’t be renewed.
    • Offensive coordinator Liam Coen (Kentucky) and running backs coach Ra’Shaad Samples (Arizona State) both left for other jobs; Samples’ departure was in-season.
    • McVay has already started searching for replacements, per team and league sources.
    • The Rams finished 5-12 last season, third in the NFC West.
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
    Carberry leaving is a mild surprise. Given the injuries to the OL, not sure how much of the overall performance can be pinned on him. Tough business. Curious if it has more to do with changes McVay wants to make in the run game.
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
    Carberry leaving is a mild surprise. Given the injuries to the OL, not sure how much of the overall performance can be pinned on him. Tough business. Curious if it has more to do with changes McVay wants to make in the run game.

    It could be that Carberry just isn’t an effective promoter of culture. It could be a lot of things. I doubt it’s because the OL allowed sacks.

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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
    Carberry leaving is a mild surprise. Given the injuries to the OL, not sure how much of the overall performance can be pinned on him. Tough business. Curious if it has more to do with changes McVay wants to make in the run game.

    It could be that Carberry just isn’t an effective promoter of culture. It could be a lot of things. I doubt it’s because the OL allowed sacks.

     

    That makes sense to me, too. Likely the culture thing.

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    That said, I don’t think the FO has done such a great job in getting the necessary talent for a successful O-line, or keeping it when they do. They haven’t used a draft pick earlier than the very late 3rd, for instance, in several years on that line. Not saying that 1st and 2nds are ever guarantees. We see all kinds of busts there all around the league, and the Rams have had their share. But, at the very least, it gives staff a far better chance to get “their guys” before other teams do. And to state the obvious, “talent” does tend to thin out as the Draft moves on. Guys with multifaceted traits become rarer and rarer. Yeah, you might find guys with great intangibles late, or raw athleticism and lousy intangibles. Or great run blockers but lousy pass blockers, etc. But you tend not to find guys with the whole deal.

    They go early for a reason, typically.

    Anyway, I’m also betting that much of the league has learned from the Rams culture model, and is emulating it. If they can upgrade talent too, while the Rams struggle there . . . . the model alone won’t get them back in the race.

    This is going to be a fascinating and pivotal offseason.

     

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    They haven’t used a draft pick earlier than the very late 3rd, for instance, in several years on that line. Not saying that 1st and 2nds are ever guarantees. We see all kinds of busts there all around the league, and the Rams have had their share.

    Creed Humphrey > Tutu Atwell.

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Rams have hoped to keep some parts of their coaching staff intact amid overhaul, including retaining Thomas Brown and Zac Robinson. But both young assistant coaches have been gaining quite a bit of traction in the hiring cycle – Brown for HC and OC jobs and Robinson for OC jobs.
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    I get this weird feeling that Raheem Morris is going to get a Head Coaching gig. I’ve been talking about the Colts.

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