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  • in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133593
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    Von is a force multiplier

    There are videos and a diagram embedded at the source if you want to see those. I’m not up for copying that many videos over here individually, and don’t really think they are essential. Personally. But there’s the link.

    Von Miller Can Turn the Rams Defense Into a Nightmare
    Los Angeles’s offense was already loaded. Now its defense is, too.

    By Ben Solak Nov 2, 2021, 6:20am EDT

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: Rams general manager Les Snead is sending multiple picks to acquire a star defensive talent at the NFL trade deadline.

    It’s a headline from a few years ago, when Snead sent multiple first-round picks to the Jacksonville Jaguars to acquire disgruntled star cornerback Jalen Ramsey—but it’s also a headline from yesterday, as Snead sent second- and third-round picks in the upcoming draft for Broncos edge rusher Von Miller. Of course, when Snead snagged Ramsey, he was getting a 25-year-old corner in his athletic prime—the best player at his position. In Von, he’s getting a 32-year-old pass rusher who once was the best player at his position and isn’t any longer.

    The Rams Keep Carving Their Own Path in the NFL Roster Arms Race
    But it’s easy to say that Von isn’t as good as he once was—and it’s certainly true! But “not as good as he once was” can still be really, really good when that player is Von Miller. Von isn’t a shadow of what he once was. He’s a doggone good player who, even off of a 2020 Achilles injury, looks like a double-digit sack producer. That’s what the Rams paid for, and that’s what they will get.

    Von was the poster boy for bendy outside rushers for most of his prime, and he still has that incredible bend along the outside. Few players in the league can flatten their rush track and explode to the quarterback the way Miller can, as we can see on these rushes against Las Vegas OT Brandon Parker.

    This is a clear passing situation, which allows Miller to tee off from a wide outside alignment and win the race to the corner. With no tight end in place to chip Miller, that race is an easy win—but it’s Miller’s ability to turn all of his forward momentum on a tight corner and into the quarterback that has long made him such a dangerous pass rusher.

    But everyone knows the book on Von, and accordingly, he gets plenty of tight end chips and tackles flying to the outside trying to beat him in the race to the corner. Von has been such a good rusher for so long because he has counters and changeups that build off of the threat of that explosive outside rush. The older he gets, the more he relies on those counters, using block recognition and varied technique to win.

    The speed-to-power rush is the primary move here. Miller has always had a tremendous power rush to pair with his explosiveness and bend, and when tackles are sitting back on their heels worried about his speed, he can easily knock them back into the quarterback. He did it multiple times against Jacksonville and its quality right tackle, Jawaan Taylor. With Taylor taking deep sets and fearing the outside rush, Miller regularly deposited him into Trevor Lawrence’s lap.

    If a tackle oversets even farther in fear of the outside rush, then Miller doesn’t even need to rush with power—he can just use his wicked change-of-direction skills to knife inside the tackle and shoot for the quarterback early in the down. When quarterbacks quickly hitch up in the pocket to protect themselves from Miller’s presence on the outside rush, they often play right into Miller’s hands, as he’s waiting for them on the inside attack.

    This is why Miller has retained his high rates of pressure and disruptions, even if he has passed his physical peak. Miller’s 22 total pressures against true pass sets is tied for seventh-most among league edge rushers, per Pro Football Focus; his win rate is at 29.9 percent, which is the 11th-best mark in the league. Don’t get it twisted—he’s still got wicked physical traits. But it’s his athleticism, along with the technical prowess, that have made him such a dynamic pass rusher for so long. As such, we can say with confidence that he’s the best edge rusher to ever play next to Rams star defensive tackle Aaron Donald. That’s a frightening thought.

    It’s frightening because of what Donald has done for pass rushers throughout his career. After L.A. traded star outside rusher Robert Quinn in 2018, the Rams have largely gone in the bargain bin at the position. They acquired Dante Fowler Jr. via trade, and he churned out 11.5 sacks and 16 tackles for loss in 2019, and in the 19 games he’s played in Atlanta since, he has five total sacks and six total tackles for loss. Clay Matthews also joined the Rams in 2019 and at age 33, delivered eight sacks in 13 games, his most effective season since 2014.

    In 2020, the Rams cycled in Leonard Floyd, an ex-first-round pick who struggled to meet expectations in a Vic Fangio–coached defense in Chicago. The Rams’ new defensive coordinator, Brandon Staley, was Floyd’s positional coach under Fangio in Chicago for two seasons. Staley was able to finally unlock Floyd in Los Angeles with a little help from Donald: Floyd hit double-digit sacks (10.5) and tackles for loss (11) in 2020, both for the first time in his career, and the Rams doled out a four-year, $64 million extension accordingly.

    The Von trade isn’t a reflection on Floyd’s performance in 2021. Floyd has 6.5 sacks in eight games, and is well on his way to posting career numbers yet again. Rather, Von is a force multiplier for both Floyd and Donald—players to whom the Rams already have multiyear financial commitments. Von will be an unrestricted free agent after this season and therefore may play just this one season with the Rams, but he will benefit greatly from the Donald boost just as so many players have before him.

    There are only a few obstacles to reaching unprecedented levels of defensive line insanity for Los Angeles. The first is figuring out where exactly to play Von and Floyd on base downs. Von has taken 292 of his 323 snaps this season (90 percent) off the left side of the defense (against the offense’s right tackle). Floyd has taken 375 of his 407 snaps on the same side of the line (92 percent). Something’s gotta give there.

    Given Von’s proven success and veteran status, as opposed to Floyd’s recent resurgence, I’d imagine the Rams kick Von over to the opposite side. Von missed all of 2020, but in the three seasons prior, he played at least 110 snaps on the right side of the defense. Switching sides can be a tough ask and may require a few weeks of onboarding, but Von should be more than up for the job. Von on the right will take second-year man Terrell Lewis and third-year man Ogbonnia Okoronkwo off of the field, and while Lewis is a flashy player, the Rams should feel fine with that exchange. Neither holds a candle to Von as a pass rusher, and he has them beat as a run defender as well.

    The next riddle to figure out is what exactly to do on passing downs, and that’s where this trade gets really exciting. Staley was with the Bears when they used Floyd as a “spinner”: a player athletic enough to stand up as a linebacker and play in the second level or push up onto the line of scrimmage as a potential blitzer. Blitz-heavy teams love to use spinners—Melvin Ingram III and T.J. Watt in Pittsburgh are great examples—to screw with protection rules and counts from opposing offensive lines. Protections are built assuming that your most dangerous pass rushers are the two guys coming off the edges, so moving your best rushers around takes advantage of that assumption. Here’s a great clip of Floyd from Brandon Thorn’s article on the Fangio defense from The Athletic a few seasons ago. Floyd is lined up as a stand-up rusher over the guard on the same side of the ball as Khalil Mack. Mack and Floyd run a twist, and Floyd gets a free shot at the quarterback.

    With Floyd and Donald in hand last season, Staley and the Rams could get mighty funky with their fronts. They’d isolate Donald as a defensive end and put all their other rushers on the other side of the ball; then, they’d do the same thing, but with Floyd as the isolated rusher. They’d ask Floyd to use his explosiveness to crash inside on stunts, freeing up Donald to loop around the outside and take his free shot at the quarterback. On this Leonard Floyd sack from Steven Ruiz’s article on the 2020 Rams under Staley, running back David Montgomery is unavailable to offer chip help to the right tackle, as he (and the rest of the Bears line) are worried about a looping Donald. Floyd wins his rep, and with Donald securing the quarterback’s escape route, gets an easy sack.

    On these clear passing downs, blitz packages have been money for the 2021 Rams. When sending five-plus rushers this season, the Rams have 13 total sacks, 58 pressures, and five forced fumbles—only the Bucs and the Cardinals, two teams blitzing at much higher rates than the Rams, are producing at similar volume. They’ve gotten a sack on 17.8 percent of those rushes (best in the league), and a pressure on 69 percent (third best). On those blitz packages, we often see the Rams twist their line in front of the blitzers, with the intent of manipulating protection rules into predictable checks. Those checks create one-on-ones that the Rams can predict and exploit.

    Take this third-and-10 rep against the Texans. The Rams line Floyd (no. 54) up way outside the right tackle, and then put five potential rushers on the line of scrimmage over the ball and to the opposite side of the field. The Texans understandably slide their protection away from Floyd and toward Donald and the heavy numbers of the Rams, which gives Floyd the one-on-one for the sack.

    That one-on-one was expected; almost guaranteed. The Texans are keeping the back in to pass protect, and the tight end is helping chip the opposite edge rusher. But with safety Taylor Rapp (no. 24) blitzing to occupy the running back, Floyd has an unobstructed outside edge to attack. He executes one of his favorite rushes—the cross-chop to get around right tackle Charlie Heck—and bears down on quarterback Davis Mills. Mills has little room to step up, given the interior twist the Rams ran with Donald (99) and Greg Gaines (91) to muddy the pocket. The opposite edge rusher is even taking a wide, patient path to contain Mills should he try to escape to that side. The alignment and activity offered Floyd the one-on-one, and he won it.

    Von is a force multiplier in these contexts. He’s a devastating individual rusher, so the presence of Donald should help him see more one-on-ones, which he will win even more often than Floyd. But Von is such a dangerous rusher that chip help from tight ends and running backs releasing in routes will likely go to him, which should provide easier wins for Floyd on the other side. On passing downs, the Rams can now twist and stunt not just with Donald and Floyd, but with Donald and Von from standard fronts; in funky fronts, they can place Floyd as a stand-up interior rush with Von on the same side of the formation, while leaving Donald isolated on the opposite side. Von, like Floyd, is a devastating crasher on stunts because of his velocity and physicality—and when he knifes into those interior gaps, he has the bend to flatten his rush and still get to the quarterback.

    There’s no schematic solution to all this. It’s essentially impossible to provide chip help to both sides for the entire game while also devoting multiple men to Donald on the interior. Eventually, someone on the offensive line has to survive a one-on-one fight, and against Donald and Miller, that’s a losing proposition for most offensive linemen. You either have the offensive line to block up the Rams’ front, or you don’t, and even if you do, the Rams can send all of these bodies flying in every direction, along with a blitzer or two, and test your communication and recognition as well. This is a nightmare, and it lasts for all four quarters.

    The Rams’ defense is evolving into a new beast under defensive coordinator Raheem Morris. All season they’ve been riddling out what works and what doesn’t as they’re still recovering from the offseason departure of Staley and many of his key role players. Now, their late-season upswing will be kick-started by the acquisition of yet another star talent, yet another weapon to add to their already terrifying arsenal. With Von in hand, they are a defense of headaches that cannot be beaten on the chessboard or exposed for its weakness; their stars are simply too many and too bright to be ignored or snuffed out. The offense is loaded, and the defense is too. The Rams are ready for their Super Bowl run.

    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133582
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    The Rams Keep Carving Their Own Path in the NFL Roster Arms Race
    Draft picks, be damned: Los Angeles traded two 2022 picks for Broncos pass rusher Von Miller. Is this reckless short-term thinking? Or a novel roster-building strategy more teams should consider?

    [www.theringer.com]

    Kevin Clark

    Draft picks, be damned: Los Angeles traded two 2022 picks for Broncos pass rusher Von Miller. Is this reckless short-term thinking? Or a novel roster-building strategy more teams should consider?

    A few years after Nick Saban left the NFL, he explained he simply did not like the professional game because he realized he could not control his own destiny. There is a draft, there’s free agency, and there’s a lot of luck involved and far too many unknowns and variables for a man with such a deep hatred of unknowns and variables. Earlier this season, Saban referred to the score of the game as an “external factor.” He is a man who believes in executing exactly what is in front of him. He could not control his own destiny in the NFL, so he left for a place where he could, and he has.

    I am bringing this up because there is a team that has found a way to do the closest thing to controlling your own destiny in a sport in which that’s not supposed to be possible. They are the Los Angeles Rams and they have now traded five 2022 draft picks for NFL veterans. On Monday, they traded a second- and third-round pick for seven-time All-Pro pass rusher Von Miller. It was a typical Rams move: Very few people saw it coming, but once it was reported the Rams had given up a few draft picks for an established player, it checked out. Of their own current crop of picks in 2022, not counting compensatory picks, the Rams’ first selection will come in the fifth round. It is a good life to be a Rams college scout.

    Von Miller is not the best pass rusher in the NFL. He is not, as Aaron Donald or Jalen Ramsey are, among the best at his position. But he has 28 pressures and five sacks this season, ranking tied for 19th in the NFL in each category. According to Pro Football Focus, he’s tied for 12th in pass rush win rate. The Rams defense evolved from Broncos coach Vic Fangio’s scheme. Miller will not be an MVP candidate in Los Angeles, as quarterback Matthew Stafford is, but he’ll help the 7-1 Rams, who already have one of the most talented defenses in football. This trade might be an overpay (the Rams are likely giving up more partly because the Broncos are eating most of Miller’s salary) but it could also take them to a Super Bowl from an unusually stacked NFC.

    More than anything to do with Miller and how much he has left, though, I’m intrigued by what the move means about team-building in 2021. Through the years, I’ve come to learn how few teams are trying to win a championship each season. A few years ago, a smart NFL person estimated that only 10 or so teams were actively trying to win the Super Bowl in any given season. San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan said on the Flying Coach podcast the number is about five, and that the other teams are trying to survive. In his new book on the Patriots dynasty, It’s Better to Be Feared, Seth Wickersham writes that Jimmy Johnson told Bill Belichick that if you just get out of the way, 20 teams will remove themselves from competition. Job preservation, saving some money, and not doing anything too weird that’ll get you noticed are guiding principles in many front offices. This trade might be the new normal for the 12 or so teams that haven’t removed themselves from competition. This is what trying to win looks like in 2021, and it applies not just to the Rams, but to every team trying to have a Super Bowl roster.

    It’s simplistic to say the Rams are all in. They were branded all in in 2018, and have been every subsequent year. They’ve never taken their chips out of the pot—it’s how they operate. I think they’ve done what Saban dreamed of doing: They know what they are getting in almost every transaction. This tactic has been tried before—George Allen’s Washington teams in the 1970s were built on picks-for-players trades. Incredibly, he once traded the same picks twice and made the playoffs with the players acquired from the transactions before anyone noticed (the team was later fined for trading “bogus” picks). But the Rams are unique in the modern NFL. Draft picks have become a precious commodity, increasingly so after the 2011 collective bargaining agreement that made rookie contracts cost-controlled and cheap. Rookies became the biggest bargain in the sport even if they were still inexperienced and unknowns.

    The Rams have decided to bet big on experience and knowns. They have removed a layer of doubt from player acquisition, swapping picks for established players. They are paying a historically steep price for this strategy: They haven’t selected in the first round since 2016 and have traded away several more picks in later rounds. By prioritizing veterans, the Rams have built a roster with several players on lucrative deals—seven Rams average more than $10 million a year and six make more than $15 million, and this group does not include Miller, who is in the last few weeks of a $114 million deal he signed in 2016. The Broncos are paying almost all of the remaining $9.7 million that Miller is still owed from that deal, making the Rams’ cap cost almost nothing. This helps explain why a player like Miller, who is a few months from free agency, costs as much (or more) in draft capital as some better players.

    “I think in the sports world right now, there’s been, whether it’s the tanking phenomenon or the draft-pick phenomenon, everyone wants this really long window, and you can’t be afraid to raise your hand and say, ‘You know what, this happened a little faster than we thought,’” Rams executive Kevin Demoff told me in 2019, just before his team played New England in the Super Bowl. Demoff told me that night that he thinks winning is the ultimate competitive advantage—what he means by that is the Patriots were helped along by players who wanted to play in a winning environment and would take less to do so.

    This trade is not just about the Rams; it’s about the cost of doing business in the NFL and the barrier for entry to actually compete. I’ve long been obsessed with the “all in” phenomenon and what it means for team-building. Chiefs GM Brett Veach once told me that teams have to be what’s considered by most as “all in” every single year. It makes sense: Teams that are actually competing for championships are getting more aggressive. The salary cap, which exploded in the past decade before flattening in the past two years, will spike again later this decade. Big swings are the future, not an outlier. The NFL prevents stars from reaching true free agency with the franchise tag—you’ll never see Jalen Ramsey or Matthew Stafford hitting the open market in their prime—so picks-for-players trades are as good a strategy as any to acquire players of that caliber.

    There is a type of arrogance in teams that think they can out-draft their competition. Over time, very few teams have been better at drafting than the average team. There are two ways to combat this: The strategy employed by the Sashi Brown–era Browns or, in a smaller window, the Miami Dolphins of the past few years, who collected as many picks as possible, trading back and taking more swings. Or, do what the Rams have done and don’t pick at all. There are many ways to build an NFL team—the Patriots ruled the draft by trading back and crushing after the first round. The Chiefs drafted most of their core but still trade firsts for established starters. There is no guaranteed path to success. The only thing you can say for certain about this Rams team is that if someone told you this trade was made and no one told you the teams involved, you’d have guessed the Rams were the team trading the picks.

    This might start a mini–arms race in advance of the trade deadline as talented NFC teams look for help. Or it might be confirmation that no one is quite as aggressive as the Rams. But it is a sign of things to come. There is, as Over the Cap’s Jason Fitzgerald wrote Monday, no reason for teams to wait for the offseason to make these sorts of trades. “If you are a playoff contender there is zero reason to wait until the next year to make a trade in the offseason or to overpay in free agency when there is so much fluctuation year to year in the NFL. Take the opportunity if it presents itself when you know you are good and that is what the Rams did here and continue to do,” Fitzgerald wrote. The Rams, in short, decided to control their own destiny.

    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133577
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    I will say that I think the Rams are gonna suck in 2025.

    I’m willing to pay that tab if they win a Super Bowl, though.

    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133573
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    ummm… hehehehehe… uhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

    i hope he’s got something left in the tank. he very possibly could. he’s got 4.5 sacks midway through the season. his second half could be much better.

    and ya know… reggie white signed with the packers his age 32 season. and had some pretty freaking good seasons after that. so he’s not necessarily done.

    this season just got a lot more interesting.

    Assuming he has something left…what this does, imo…is creates pass rush overload.

    Donald up the middle, and pressure from one side from Lloyd. Now they have 3-point pressure. Both sides, and the middle.

    So… now what? Double TE sets? I mean…be my guest.

    3-point pressure is not a good thing if you are an OC.

    This could potentially be very, very fun.

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    in reply to: Atwell to IR #133572
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    How do you guys feel about the Rams’ chances this year, now that their first draft pick is out for the season?

    (I can’t help but think that, one day, this guy’s kids are going to want to see the film of his time in the NFL).

    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133564
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    So my neighbor says that Miller did NOT have an Achilles injury. The CBS reporter got that wrong, according to him. He says it was a tendon in his foot.

    He thinks Miller has 2 or 3 years before the End, maybe. Obviously not what he was, but can help the Rams. Given his appreciation of Von, and the fact that the Broncos are not competitive this year, that he will be rooting for the Rams.

    So it’s nice to know that the Ledger of Goodness in the universe tilted in the right direction today.

    in reply to: our reactions to the Houston game #133555
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    Tutu is confirmed out for the season, btw.

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    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133549
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    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133543
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    Ok…. This shut is crazy……Miller and Donald both require double teams…. I can’t imagine what this will do. My brain can’t imagine this. If healthy….. this could be nuts.

    It appears that the Rams intend to harass opposing teams’ passing games.

    I see that he had an achilles injury that kept him out all of 2020. That’s a concern.

    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133536
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    From CBS

    The Denver Broncos are finalizing a deal to send franchise icon Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams, ending a decade-long stint with the team, CBS Sports NFL insider Jason La Canfora confirms. The Rams will be sending two 2022 draft picks — a second-round and a third-round selection — to Denver in exchange for Miller.

    Miller spent his first 10-plus seasons with the Broncos, totaling 110.5 sacks in 142 games with the franchise. The MVP of Super Bowl 50, Miller has seven double-digit sack seasons with three All-Pro selections and eight Pro Bowl appearances. In seven games with the Broncos this season, Miller has 4.5 sacks, 19 tackles and nine quarterback hits.

    Miller has been the premier pass rusher in the NFL for the last decade as his 110.5 sacks since 2011 lead the league. His 142 tackles for loss are second only to J.J. Watt and his 225 quarterback hits are third to Watt and Carlos Dunlap — and this was with Miller missing the entire 2020 season due to an Achilles injury.

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    The Broncos agreed to pay $9 million of Miller’s remaining $9.7 million salary, a huge reason why Denver was able to recoup a pair of Day 2 draft picks for Miller. The former No. 2 overall pick is in the final year of an six-year, $114.5 million contract, and will be a free agent at the conclusion of the season.

    Miller will be joining a Rams defense that already has Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donald on the unit, yet is ranked just 10th in points allowed and 21st in yards allowed. The Rams defense already has the most sacks in football, leading the league with 25 through eight games. Their 107 pressures are fifth in the league. Los Angeles just pressures on 29.7% of their snaps, good for 20th in the NFL — making the Miller addition even more valuable going forward.

    The Rams no longer have a draft pick in the first four rounds in 2022 due to a plethora of “win-now” deals involving Miller, Jared Goff, and Brandin Cooks. The only pick the Rams have coming in the first two days of the draft is a compensatory third-round selection resulting in the hiring of Brad Holmes by the Detroit Lions as general manager (Holmes was the director of scouting for the Rams last season), as Los Angeles became the first team to receive two third-round compensatory draft picks as part of the NFL’s new hiring initiatives with the Rooney Rule.

    Los Angeles has just three draft picks (not counting compensatory) in the 2022 draft, a fifth-round pick and two seventh-round picks. The Rams are clearly going for a Super Bowl championship with the Miller deal, as they enter Week 9 with a 7-1 record — tied with the Arizona Cardinals and Green Bay Packers for the best record in the NFC.

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    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133530
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    These stats don’t fly off the page. And a 2nd and 3rd seems high for a guy with 10+ years of mileage. That’s two quality starters for Von Miller. A good LB helps, but isn’t this guy kind of a Leonard Floyd type of player? I dunno. I texted my next door neighbor who is religiously devoted to the Broncos.

    An oddity I notice on those stats is that he played against the Broncos twice this year. Isn’t it unusual for teams to play themselves in the regular season? At least they had both games at home, though.

    The Rams are certainly all about winning it all this year.

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    in reply to: Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams #133526
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    I did not see that one coming.

    in reply to: setting up the Titans game…Henry out? #133524
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    Well, that should pave the way to 8-1.

    I wanted to see how the Rams could handle a first class running back.

    in reply to: our reactions to the Houston game #133523
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    I dont see a clear favorite yet. One of those teams is gonna be healthy
    and hot, come playoff time. You can make a case for any of those teams,
    and its ‘very’ close, but as of now, i think the Rams have a tiny edge.

    I agree with that. I think the Rams have the inside lane, but I’d also say that if you put those 5 teams into a pie chart, the Rams’ slice is less than half the pie. I want the whole pie. All of it.

    I also think that you’re right about injuries. If the Rams lose Donald, Stafford, Kupp, or Ramsey, they don’t make it.

    Oh…one other game note: how great was that interception by Deayon? Pity that got wiped out. That was beautiful.

    in reply to: our reactions to the Houston game #133520
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    Who has? There isn’t a single team (outside of maybe the Cowboys) that consistently puts together complete games or looks like a contender ever week.

    Unlike you, I am interested only in the fortunes of the Rams. The “fact” that other teams look beatable is of no consolation to those of us who prefer to see the Rams win the Super Bowl. In the end, all you are saying is that the Rams are not clearly inferior to some other team. That may be true, but that is not the same thing as saying the Rams are superior to all other teams, a nuance perhaps lost on Cowboys’ fans such as yourself.

    in reply to: our reactions to the Houston game #133514
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    Terrible call against the Texans on that fourth down play,
    when it was ten to zip.

    Yep. That was terrible.

    So… I still am not very impressed with the Rams, actually.

    They have not put together a game that made me think they are a legitimate threat to win it all. And they have just passed through the easiest stretch of the schedule, against some truly deficient teams, and I wanna see the Rams do better than that. They fail to execute pretty often. And for the first half dozen games or so, you can let them slide on “new QB; new DC,” but it’s time now to throw the ball to the open guy, throw it accurately in a tight space, make some tackles, takeaway the ball, get 3 and outs, and… I dunno… quietly drop Tutu off at the adoption agency. They are putting up impressive numbers, but there it just feels like there are loose parts. This team makes too many unforced errors to win it all.

    Of course, there is still plenty of time, but looking at the next 5 games –
    Titans
    at SF
    at GB
    Jax
    at Ariz
    and 3-2 or even 2-3 seems likely/possible.

    My favorite thing about yesterday was Darryl Henderson.

    I didn’t see much of the second half. Fell asleep, actually at 31-7, and while I was happy to see McVay put in the JV squad, there was no good football to be had at that point anyway.

    I am looking forward to the next 3 games. I think we will really see if the Rams are contenders or pretenders now.

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    This one has me spinning.

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    in reply to: DeSean Jackson wants to be traded? #133461
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    I’m guessing that it might even be Jackson and a swap of late round picks, like the Young trade. Unless there is a line up of teams wanting Jackson, but it seems like the Rams might be motivated sellers here.

    I’m frequently baffled by the return on trades, and guess it’s because, as a homer, I place more value on players than the market does.

    But I’d rather keep Jackson than give him away. If Kupp goes out for a few weeks, better to have Jackson pick up playing time than Atwell. I understand they aren’t going to get a pick better than Day 3 for a guy his age and who is a FA, but he is an asset, and can make another team better. He ought to fetch a depth player. I mean…a depth player for a depth player. Sounds reasonable to me.

    in reply to: DeSean Jackson wants to be traded? #133459
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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    It’s not that the Rams made a mistake by signing a quality No. 3/4 WR. It’s about resource allocation on a cap-ceiling team. The Rams splurged on DeSean/Tutu when there seemed to be holes elsewhere, and that has borne itself out. And now a few people are unsatisfied.

    Okay, but if Jackson was getting 3 or 4 receptions a game, this wouldn’t be an issue. The fact is that Josh Reynolds got used more last year than Jackson is getting used this year. So…the question is why?

    What my eyeballs are telling me is that what the Rams (McVay) thought they needed most on offense this year (and many of us agreed) was the ability to stretch the defense vertically, a major deficiency of the final stage of the Goff era. Since Cooks left, Goff’s passes were concentrated around the line of scrimmage. Very long handoffs.

    So they got somebody who could be a deep threat…only…turns out, that wasn’t much of a problem after all. With Stafford, the Rams offense immediately found the entire repertoire of throws, particularly the mid-range stuff that is the bread and butter of modern offenses, and suddenly the Rams were stretching the field from their base offense. Jackson became a Boom button on a speaker. Sure…it boosts the bass sound, or whatever, but it doesn’t reaaalllly make that much difference. They are fine without him.

    I was hoping to see the Rams use him more because I happen to like it when the Rams score from 70-yards out, but if they could get an immediate contributor for him, I’d take it because he does seem to be expendable. I’ll be pissed if they trade him for a 7th rounder pick, but if they can get an actual return for him, I’ll take it.

    Here are possible trade partners as speculated by CBS Sports’ Bryan DeArdo:

    Green Bay Packers
    Green Bay just suffered the loss of tight end Robert Tonyan, so the Packers may be in the market for a new receiver to help offset that loss. The Packers went out and signed Randall Cobb at Aaron Rodgers’ request this offseason, so it’s not unreasonable to think that they would do the same with Jackson if Rodgers makes a similar request.

    Kansas City Chiefs
    The Chiefs have plenty of weapons, but Andy Reid may jump on the chance to reunite with Jackson, his top receiver for several seasons in Philadelphia. Jackson would also help replace Sammy Watkins as a reliable, veteran receiver for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

    Indianapolis Colts
    With T.Y. Hilton’s injury situation, it would make sense for the Colts to try to make an upgrade at the receiver position. It would also pair Jackson with another former Eagles Pro Bowl performer in quarterback Carson Wentz.

    Baltimore Ravens
    Even with the offseason addition of Watkins, the Ravens could use another wideout opposite Watkins, Marquise Brown and Devin Duvernay. The trade would certainly be embraced by Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, who has enjoyed a strong start to the 2021 season.

    The entire article is here, if you want it:
    Jackson Landing Spots

    I would not trade him to the Packers. No chance.

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    Didn’t Gray coach DBs for the Rams a long time ago?

    27 years coaching. I wonder if he wants to move up in responsibility, or if he is happy where he is.

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    The headline still cracks me up.

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    The omniscient football talkers on the radio this am talked about the 5 best teams in the NFL, and none of them experts even mentioned the Cardinals – who were the best team in the NFL 5 days ago.

    It’s almost as if… nah.

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    So a bunch of zillionaires are having an argument about how they are splitting the dinner check.

    My heart bleeds equally for all of them.

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    Surely the prosecution can get around that, though, by referring to them as “fatalities” or “Killed person #1” or something.

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    In all my decades, I’ve never heard of a Judge ruling that
    neither side can call the dead people ‘victims.’

    I mean, I can understand the defense calling them looters
    etc, if they have some credible evidence of that, etc,
    but to rule that neither side can call them victims
    is….something I’ve never heard of.

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    Is that not the basis of an appeal if he gets off? Or can you not appeal when someone is found innocent? The double jeopardy thing.

    It just looks like the judge is stacking the deck for Rittenhouse from the beginning. I can’t even see how that’s allowable.

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