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ZooeyModeratorRams defense was great back then, very underrated.
They pitched at least 1 shut out every year from 1973 to 1979.
1973 2 shut outs
1974 2 shut outs
1975 1 shut out
1976 1 shut out
1977 3 shut outs
1978 1 shut out
1979 3 shut outs, the 3rd in the NFC Championship game.they didn’t hold anyone scoreless again until 1985, when they did it twice, to KC and Dallas, unfortunately they got skunked against the Bears in the NFC Championship.
The Rams had the #1 rated defense of the 1970s. I read that somewhere. It was rated above the Steelers and Cowboys.
ZooeyModeratorI look up the 74 season…
RAMS pitched 2 shuts that year, vs Saints and Falcons, (not back-to-back)
SF, pitched back-to-back shut outs to Bears and Falcons that year, ironically, SF was shut out the following week 7-0 in Cleveland. 7 points allowed over 3 games is not bad.
SF’s defense was getting old but were decent back then…. also, they needed a QB to replace Brodie…..didn’t happen until Montana got there in 79.
Yeah, the 9ers were crummy for a long time. The Rams routinely beat them twice a year. The opposite of the 90s.
December 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #13491ZooeyModeratorSNL skit apparently got cut from the show for some reason. Time, I think.
Anyway, it’s amusing without being inflammatory or taking sides.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/08/snl-ferguson-cut-sketch_n_6288448.html
ZooeyModerator“..Titans turned that trick…as did the two best defenses of the last 45 years, the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens. Notably the two teams to record THREE straight shutouts are the 1970 St. Louis Cardinals and the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers. This defense appears to have turned the corner toward living up to its hype….”
The Cardinals
had a great Defense??I dont remember that.
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vI don’t either. But statistical anomalies happen. And it was a low-scoring era.
I saw on the list of back-to-back shutouts the 1974 49ers, and that caught my eye because my memory is that the 49ers were not a good football team in the 70s. I looked them up, and they finished 6-8 in 1974. That isn’t the 76 Steelers.
But then…neither are the 14 Rams.
ZooeyModeratorI do believe Schottenheimer is putting Tavon outside more, and that is better for his game. But I also think he is looking better because he has gone against weaker defenses that don’t have discipline. Austin is exactly the kind of player that can maximize damage against an undisciplined defense.
But I still don’t think he will ever amount to much against disciplined defenses. Tavon Austin against a tough defense like the turn of the century Bucs or Ravens would just git kilt. He will be a good regular season player, and disappear in the playoffs. Except, maybe, as a returner.
ZooeyModeratorFrankly, if Jake Long wasn’t our LT, this season may have been very different.
It’s Schottenheimer’s fault for calling a pass play there.
Or possibly Spags’ fault for firing the strength and conditioning coach.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, it’s not even clear that McCoy was expecting it, though it isn’t definitive. But clearly the LOT and G were not expecting the snap right then.
ZooeyModeratorI wouldn’t do that trade even if it was feasible.
Sam Bradford is our best hope for next year. There just isn’t anyone else.
We may or may not be able to improve on Hill, but even if they got a better QB than Hill, he would have to be a lot better to compensate for the experience edge that Hill has with this system and the players.
I really believe the best case scenario is a healthy Bradford, Hill, and a draft pick.
ZooeyModeratorI’d like a Center, too. I’ve wanted a center for 3 years. I hoped Jones was going to be that guy, but there are no Jones Sightings.
If he doesn’t take the job next year, I’m guessing he’s a goner.
ZooeyModeratorIf they lose again, I just hope it isn’t until Seattle. I think that’s definitely possible. And, no, I think this team will remain focused. There are some vets who have been waiting to play for a winner, and they’re going to want this very badly.
Yeah, me too. It would be a letdown to lose to Arizona. Losing to Seattle in Seattle wouldn’t be that disappointing, but to have put together a couple of really good games in a row (and 3 of 4 with a near miss), and make us all hope that we are seeing something to carry us into next year with real hopes…well, I think a loss to Arizona would be deflating.
Depends on HOW, of course, but beating Arizona would salvage the season for me, I think.
ZooeyModeratorPretty good. I like Chris Long a lot.
Well, why don’t you marry him, then?
ZooeyModeratorI feel their pain.
And…it makes me laugh.
ZooeyModeratorjoemad wrote:
I heard Young talk about this on his weekly segment on local SF radio. Sid Gillman tied Young’s legs with a rope to avoid Young from scrambling.SY: Well, I was throwing the ball a lot (at BYU), so I had some concepts that were taught to me by (quarterbacks coach) Mike Holmgren in college. But I also ran around like crazy. Ironically, it was in the USFL with (Hall-of-Fame coach) Sid Gillman. People don’t remember that Sid Gillman was my coach. He was an old crotchety guy, but he was the first one to basically say, ‘You can’t just run around.’ … I remember, he literally tied my feet up. He got a rope and said ‘OK, you can’t go anywhere. What are you going to do? You can’t move. What’s your next plan?’ So that got me thinking about that.
I think tying Young up and leaving him out there facing the D was a good idea. I mean I don’t know about the qb mechanics part of it, I just know he deserved it. Then, of course, they screwed up and untied him.
I was living in LA when the USFL was invented, and I had season tickets to the LA Express, the team that signed Steve Young to an eye-popping $40 million deal (payable over 40 years). I was present at a game where he passed for over 300 yards, and rushed for over 100 yards. That guy was good. Of course, the Bucs couldn’t do anything with him.
ZooeyModeratorThe issue isn’t currently creating any ill will, let alone dividing the board.
Back to the topic: I did not know that the disuse of the name was official for ANY newspaper or media outlet. I thought only a handful of people had chosen to disuse it.
There are a couple of papers in the Pacific Northwest that quit using the term 15 – 20 years ago (and other Indian nicknames), long before the issue became a national topic of conversation in the past decade. Interesting.
ZooeyModeratorRally behind Hill
But they don’t play good football
Lights go on; now defense stout.
December 5, 2014 at 12:59 am in reply to: The fact that Rams seldom win in DC makes this a big game. #13035ZooeyModeratorHere’s hoping the Washington team is in the middle of dysfunctional mess with Gruden maybe bailing out and the Rams win in a rout.
It REALLY would cause the NFL to take notice if the Rams won two routs in a row…
I could live with that.
December 4, 2014 at 6:45 pm in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #13022ZooeyModeratorAfrican Americans know in their bones and long past refutation that they remain, decade after decade, vulnerable to prejudicial police harassment and violence. They have lived their lives being harassed by cops and watching people who look like them die. That shared experience is surely what our African American WRs were testifying to.
That was very well said.
To me that interpretation of their intent was obvious.
But it was missed by everybody on the Comments boards around the web.
I keep forgetting that white people in America generally just have no idea what it’s like to be black in this country. And they were out there in force connecting the entire Rams organization to the endorsement of looting and violence, brainwashed as they were by Liberal lies about Brown’s innocence. That’s what the issue was as far as they were concerned. To them, all the protesters are just “thugs,” and the policemen heroes. I saw one comment where a guy called the protesters in Ferguson “animals,” and it wasn’t one of those venom-laden racist diatribe things. The tone of it was just oblivious. I’m sure the author would be offended if he had been told he was racist. Mike Ditka is the latest guy to publicly miss the entire point. And HE ought to know better having lived a more integrated life than most whites.
ZooeyModerator<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zooey wrote:</div>
3. Billy Waddy against the Cowboys2. Flipper Anderson against the Giants
1. Isaac Bruce against the Titans.
I don’t care about acrobatics, or all this nancy boy spectacle stuff.
Those are the three Best Catches I ever saw.
Why do you hate Ricky Proehl ?
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vI think because I watched that catch with exhausted relief rather than a paroxysm of joy.
ZooeyModerator3. Billy Waddy against the Cowboys
2. Flipper Anderson against the Giants
1. Isaac Bruce against the Titans.
I don’t care about acrobatics, or all this nancy boy spectacle stuff.
Those are the three Best Catches I ever saw.
December 3, 2014 at 9:44 pm in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #12947ZooeyModerator“At any rate, what is the ‘point’ of telling Demoff
or Fisher they are gonna give a salute to the troops,
or pray, or give the hands up gesture ? What is
the point of informing the boss about that?I mean, i know they can if they want to, but
why should they feel ‘obligated’ to ?”I guess the “point” would be simply a matter of courtesy. I don’t believe anyone said that the players had any obligation to inform team of their intentions. I do, however, feel that it would have been a show of courtesy and respect for the organization from which you draw your millions of dollars to give them a heads up. We’re talking about a two way street here. The team has had the players’ backs since the event. At least publicly. Would it be too much too expect that the players might give that same consideration? And, for that matter, their actions could prove to have repercussions for their teammates as well. Teammates that had no part of their actions or even knew of it. Would it be too much to suggest that the five players simply take into consideration what consequences their actions could have on their employers or their teammates and weigh the advisability of those actions? Media outlets around the country and many fans (I’ve had conversations with many who know that I am a Rams’ fan) are not separating the actions of five players from the team. It was the St. Louis Rams that did it. No one is arguing their right to do what they did. But I don’t think it is an outrageous notion that they could’ve shown their employer and teammates a little more respect and consideration than to draw them unknowingly into their protest.
This is pure conjecture because I obviously don’t know what was going through the minds of those 5 players, how long beforehand it was premeditated, and what, exactly, they thought they were doing, but I just don’t think they expected it to become this…Thing.
And – I may be wrong – but I suspect that if the St. L PD hadn’t complained about it publicly, that it WOULDN’T have become this…Thing.
As for people who think it’s The St. Louis RAMS who did that, and that it was “in support of thuggery” and so on…well, they aren’t trying very hard to exercise critical thinking on the issue, are they? Seriously.
It doesn’t make any difference because all those people who are experiencing the Outrage D’Jour will be distracted by the next squirrel to dart across the headlines, anyway.
Really, I think this whole thing is blown way out of proportion by the police department and a gaggle of Side With Authority types. Nothing happened on Sunday other than the Rams slaughtered the Raiders 52 – 0.
December 2, 2014 at 6:36 pm in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #12881ZooeyModeratorHere’s the thing that strikes me about the aftermath of this. It seems like everybody is talking about this action as if it is a referendum on the Michael Brown incident, and I really don’t think it is. I don’t think the Rams players or the protesters in Ferguson are motivated as much by Michael Brown himself as they are by the reality that black people are abused by police routinely. On the news sites in particular most of the anger centers on the “Michael Brown was a thug” version of events, and so the Rams are supporting thugs and promoting thuggery. It is entirely tone deaf to the situation to frame it in that light – even if Michael Brown was a thug (and I don’t know; I didn’t follow the story). Either way, the story is a lightning rod for the more pervasive problem of racial profiling and that’s why people are out on the streets.
December 2, 2014 at 8:43 am in reply to: who remembers the poster Jeff? He passed away a couple of weeks ago #12841ZooeyModeratorHe was a good poster, and I enjoyed his company. I have always been sorry he didn’t keep posting with us, but now I know why.
RIP JeffM.
December 2, 2014 at 1:14 am in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #12833ZooeyModeratorWow. Some UGLY stuff going on out there on the internet over this. Probably would have been on any of the previous boards we used to frequent, too. It’s kind of startling, when I think about it, that it isn’t happening on this board. Unique group of posters, here.
ZooeyModeratorI hate the Raiders.
November 26, 2014 at 11:09 am in reply to: I will be gone for 4 days with limited access starting tomorrow #12555ZooeyModeratorAll the best.
ZooeyModeratorThis season has had the worst officiating I remember seeing… since the Replacement Refs season, anyway.
November 23, 2014 at 7:32 pm in reply to: Rams can't overcome their own mistakes… (Chargers game reactions thread) #12388ZooeyModeratorLooked like a Coming of Age game for the team until….
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
I haven’t read that. Why don’t the PD guys mention that?I don;t know. Anyway it’s all very confusing.
I still say it would/will come down to numbers. Billionaires care more about money than their personal feelings.
ZooeyModeratorI haven’t read that. Why don’t the PD guys mention that?
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
@JoeStrauss
I think in February, the Rams are going to file an application to move. Now, that’s to say they’re going to actually move.STLRamsforever
NFL is not happy with the way SK is conducting business and Rams relocation is NOT on the NFLs agenda. Other owners besides Chargers are not warm to SK moving.
crewe
CM just reported on ESPN. Looks like Stan wouldn’t have votes even if he did try to move.
These reports are BS.
Okay. But how so?
What can Stan possibly be doing to irritate the NFL? He’s a businessman conducting business the same way any of the other businessmen owners in the NFL would do it. And the one defining characteristic of Stan’s “business” so far is that nobody knows what’s going on. It’s all on the quiet, outside the media spotlight.
That’s EXACTLY how the NFL would WANT him to conduct business.
Furthermore, there is nothing to vote on. There are not numbers yet. Businessmen make decisions after looking at numbers.
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