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Fair enough. And maybe I was being over-sensitive, because I’ve been defending my choices and my POV for a few days, across multiple platforms, and to all kinds of people (in person). I have a lot of respect for you, Mackey Mack, and for everyone on this board, quite honestly. You’re all very smart and scholarly. Like wv said, it’s difficult to keep our animosities in check when discussing politics, but I had/have high hopes for this board in particular to do just that. So, going forward, I’ll try not to read ‘tone’ into the discussion, and I’ll do my best to elucidate in the same manner.Re: Destroying Islamic terrorists once and for all:
That’s a nonsensical statement. That’s like saying you’d like to destroy racism once and for all.It’s not nonsensical, and that’s a poor comparison. While racism and islamic fundamentalism are both ideologies, one of them (terrorism) is a movement that can be squashed by taking it apart from the top down. Not unlike Naziism. Instead of allowing them to grow and flourish, I’d like to see our tremendous military might, led by brilliant military strategists and Generals, and along with a coalition of States, systematically destroy their leadership and quickly put splinter cells into graves. I have a unique perspective on this, because I’ve seen hundreds of murders on LiveLeak, and I read about the atrocities they commit all the time. I seek it out. It’s on the same level as gassing the Jews, but with less mercy. They murder gays, they murder jews, they murder Christians, they stone women to death, they use children as human grenades, and they use human beings as shields. If you don’t think we have the power to assert our will against them, then okay. But doing nothing – or not enough – is akin to sponsoring their actions. Again, just like the Nazi’s, we need to destroy this movement before it grows. And we need to keep putting that flame out every single time it tries to reignite.
We all step on each others toes once in a while. It’s what happens when people have opinions, and in the case of politics, the only people interested in them are people who have them bound up strongly in their identity, their sense of values and morality. So. I personally wish the edit feature was available longer, and that we had a delete option. One of the boards we had once-upon-a-time allowed deletions. But here, once you said it, you have to live with the consequences. So sometimes we get pissy with each other.
On terrorism, this is from the Global Terrorism Index of 2014
This chart shows how 268 terrorist groups ended from 1968 – 2006.
Politicisation means that the terrorist group was somehow brought into the political system, its leaders getting seats in government etc.
Policing is the targeting (arresting or killing) of key leaders in the group.
In 10% of cases, the terrorists achieved their goals.
In 7% of cases, military action finished them off.
And I will just throw in…another way to fend them off is to stop abusing them with our foreign policies. Ya know. Invading Iraq was not really necessary.
“I wanna live in a country which has more community oriented values (i.e. socialized medicine, maternity leave, retirement, vacation time…egalitarian quality of life), and this country just isn’t going to be that place.”
Well you can pine for your pie in the sky, “imagine all the people” utopia all you want, but aside from all the other developed democracies in the world, no such place exists.
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It amazes me – when I bother to think about it – how Americans, who want to be #1 at everything in the world, ignore clearly superior ways of organizing society in the name of the myth of individuality and the belief that “government screws everything up.”
We pay far, far more for health care than ANY country with national health care, and get worse results: worse infant mortality, shorter lifespans, people going bankrupt because of illness or accident, and on and on. And we won’t change it. We fight against it. Fight against making the system better AND cheaper. Because we simply won’t believe it. Won’t believe the facts right in front of us that dozens of countries have had national health care for 60 years with better results.
Paid vacation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country
Yes. We are behind Albania, Nepal, Afghanistan…. The richest country in the world cannot afford to guarantee paid vacation.
Parent leave? Forget it.
One of the greatest outcomes of the propaganda system in this country is that the richest people have convinced the poorest people that pursuing their own interests is disastrous.
How many Trump supporters believe unions are bad in principle? How many oppose universal health care? How many think paid vacation is an outrageous idea that would bankrupt businesses, or make them flee? How many believe that increasing the minimum wage is bad?
And they wonder why their economic circumstances suck. All the money is going up, but they elected a guy who is going to cut taxes for the wealthy so that even MORE of the money goes up. Because wealth disparity wasn’t bad enough.
Civilized? Really? Vandalism and assaults are civilized? Now a Cry In is civilized. It’s also pathetic.
You haven’t complained about police assaults on unarmed black people.
You haven’t complained about Trump supporters assaulting protesters.
You haven’t complained about racist graffiti (vandalism) that has emerged all over this country. You minimize it. You point the finger somewhere else.
Then you complain about the anti-Trump side protesting.
This is why your credibility is low. You are not, in principle, against assault. If your side does it, it simply isn’t assault. Or it’s the fault of the victim. Or whatever.
Killory’s people were coordinating fomenting violence at Trump rallies. As for credibility it is yours that is low. A grown man claiming Trump will be the end to the biosphere! Get a grip on reality.
Yeah. Well. I will just stick with the children at NASA http://climate.nasa.gov/ over your adult perspective. Thanks, though.
