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ZooeyModeratorNothing has happened yet, and La Canfora’s reports about the Redskins have been…hit or miss.
It’s been my observation that La Confora’s reports on everything are hit or miss. Either his connections play him a little bit, or he infers too much from what he is given. But I would think it’s a safe bet he is right on this one. It would really make sense for Wes to join LA if he is, in fact, offered that position. Those three guys are obviously close, and if McVay is serious about still being the playcaller, a former assistant coach to McVay would make sense there.
ZooeyModeratorWell dont corporations have policies that go beyond national borders?
I dont see how neoliberalism can be restricted to ‘domestic’ policies when no major-corporation thinks in terms of ‘domestic’ policies — they
are global. And thus, implicate the military-machinery, etc.I’ll look up ‘neoliberalism’ at some point today.
Give me another word and I’l luse it.
But i think neoliberalism is more ‘stretchy’ than
you are stating. I think its more like postmodernism. Stretchy.w
vThat’s how I see it.
The New World Order is global neo-liberalism. Enforced with drones and gangsters.
ZooeyModeratorYes, agreed, Zooey. Sigh.
…and yet….there was the Bernie phenomenon. A small flickering light in the darkness, perhaps.
Its all we got.
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vIt’s all we got.
And yet Cory Booker and 10 or 11 other democrats voted against the pharmaceutical amendment Sanders proposed.
Really, the only hope is to convert some Trump supporters into Sanders supporters, and I don’t know how you do that without a vast propaganda network, and leftists don’t own that.
ZooeyModeratorHaven’t watched the Hedges video, but this statement characterizes my thoughts on these events at present.
And I would say that’s impossible.
There is absolutely nothing NOT neo-liberal about Trump. In fact we are already seeing neo-liberal policies from him and the congress that make everything coming before him pale in comparison.
Neo-liberalism is a very narrow term that refers exactly and precisely ONLY to a specific set of economic policies. And when it comes to that, Trump is a neo-liberal extremist compared to what has come before.
Saying “neo-liberals and fascists are opposed” would be like saying “you either punt the ball in this situation, or draft a receiver in the 2nd round.”
Unrelated things. Apples and oranges.
You can be a non-fascist neo-liberal and a fascist neo-liberal. Fascist and neo-liberal are not opposable terms.
And make no mistake. Trump is every single inch a deep economic neo-liberal.
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I clarified my position on this in the other thread that seems to be on the same subject.
Basically, I see neo-liberalism and fascism as more or less the same thing: private business runs the show and the government kind of facilitates that. They are doing the same thing. It’s just that the neo-liberal democrat types want to do it politely, and have a sense of noblesse oblige (they let the servants have the carcass to take home after their feast) whereas the fascists see the servants as disposable, and don’t care if they starve ‘cuz they’re always having babies and there will be someone younger to come in and attend to them.
ZooeyModeratorOkay, now I’ve watched the Hedges thing, and the first thing I am compelled to say is that those Hawk silhouettes flitting across the screen are the most irritating thing I have seen on any news show, and news has had increasingly irritating visual pollution since about 1980.
This thread and the Greenwald thread seem to be merging.
The way I see it is that neoliberalism and fascism are pretty much the same thing. The difference is in degree, rather than kind. Neoliberalism is polite fascism. Polite fascism is better than impolite fascism in some respects, although there is the possibility that impolite fascism will be resisted more forcefully. I mean…even the Clintonistas may get on board for opposing the excesses we get to witness over the next four years (or more).
What has been unleashed now is unapologetic neoliberalism, economic policy which no longer pretends to have gone to finishing school. This is brazen. I liked the description of Trump as a conman. This new government – and I include congress as much or even more than Trump – just is no longer going to expend energy putting on a pretty face. They will come out and say whatever, contradict it tomorrow, blast their opponents ruthlessly, disregard facts, and just bulldoze their way through everything. Like McConnell, who literally complained that democrats were going to be obstructionists. Who literally complained that the hearings on the cabinet appointees shouldn’t be held up by the very rules that he used to hold up Obama’s appointments. They will just ram their way through everything, steal everything in sight, and keep throwing racist meat and patriotic bullshit at their pissed off base (who, apparently, will believe ANYTHING whatsoever, and may NEVER understand that they have been conned because there will never be a shortage of minorities and atheists to blame for everything).
As far as foreign policy goes, I think that comes down to industry interests.
The (few) neoliberals who are isolationist (like Trump might be), simply don’t have investments that require subjugating Poland or Syria. That’s the military-oil-finance billionaires. But some people who have more local empires just see that as an expense that doesn’t benefit them directly, and which creates unpleasant blowback. It’s a waste of money to them.
But Trump has no principles because he’s a narcissist. Narcissists only care about their personal image, about being better and more entitled than everyone else. He is malleable. And because of the people he has surrounded himself with, I think we can count on the military/oil/finance people carrying on with their destruction of the world, although it may be tempered slightly in the case of Russia. There’s still China to fuck with, and maybe they will compromise that way.
ZooeyModeratorLooks to me like there is a bit of a ‘deep-state civil war’ between the fascists and the neoliberals.
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vHaven’t watched the Hedges video, but this statement characterizes my thoughts on these events at present.
ZooeyModeratorOkay. Well. Again, I just want to cry.
I am sure Mercer would be pleased to know that he and his companions have completely demoralized me once again.
There is nothing comparable happening on the left. And I use “left” here to include standard issue liberals.
These guys have written all the rules so that they can completely dominate the political game, completely control propaganda (with the small and temporary exception of the internet), shield their profits from taxes, and have riled up a large enough minority of people in this country to win the “culture war.” They are succeeding spectacularly even though they are a minority. And with Trump’s victory, the racists and militarists and jingoists are so emboldened, they won’t go away no matter what happens at polling stations. Their self-perception has changed from “persecuted minority” to “winners,” and they won’t accept defeat.
There is no pretty future. It looks to be like Greed has won the day.
ZooeyModerator72 bombs a day.
I’m sure all those people are grateful for their liberation.
January 13, 2017 at 11:05 pm in reply to: speculation conversation…what if they switched to a 3/4 #63478
ZooeyModeratorIs it certain Phillips will switch to a 3-4? Has he always run a 3-4?
I read that he works to the strengths of the players he has, rather than trying to force people into roles they aren’t good at/capable of.
January 13, 2017 at 6:15 pm in reply to: audio/vids…the sports media industry on McVay hire (including Faulk) #63453
ZooeyModeratorIs that guy behind the mic for real? Or was it some kind of dress up day at work? Looks like he fell out of a crappy 1980s metal band.
ZooeyModeratorHey, no worries. I got a million of ’em. I’m a laugh a minute.
ZooeyModeratoryeah. i wonder if robert quinn would be better served as a standup edge rusher. i don’t know. i’m not too familiar with charles haley’s career. was he converted to a standup pass rusher after back problems?
Haley’s back issue came later in his career. His position was not a response to his back issue. That is just coincidence.
January 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm in reply to: McVay helped Desean Jackson and Pierre Garçon more than Cousins #63430
ZooeyModeratorNah, both Garcon and Jackson are headaches. I’d rather re-sign Britt and get a WR in the draft. Juju Smith-Schuster is the 4th rated WR (I read somewhere), so he might be available at the top of the 2nd round. He is plenty good.
January 13, 2017 at 12:19 pm in reply to: audio/vids…the sports media industry on McVay hire (including Faulk) #63427
ZooeyModeratorRamsFanSince69
Peter Schrager on Sean McVay (GMFB Fri 1/13)
S. just said that McVay is embracing longtime Rams like Eric Dickerson. Also said that Sean spoke with Marshall Faulk before accepting the job and got his input as to what it means to be a Ram.
These are little things that have nothing to do with the X’s and O’s but they mean everything to how our new HC prepares for this new job.
Frankly, that is a sign of humility. That is a leader, not a boss. That is a very good thing.
ZooeyModeratorwell. reading about mcvay his strong points include his ability to connect with people. that’s an ability that vermeil excelled at. maybe shanahan is strong in x’s and o’s but not with the ability to form bonds. that’d be huge as a head coach i would think.
that’s also something fisher excelled at. players are fiercely loyal to him. i get that sense with mcvay.
Interesting point. You are certainly right about Vermeil. He was just that kind of guy. I used to work with a guy who played under Vermeil at UCLA. He was drafted by the George Allen Rams, then later traded to Buffalo where he played a few years before ending his career in the World Football League.
I worked with him a few years before I learned about his past. He never talked about it. And the only thing I could ever get him to really “open” about – I mean talk about freely – was Dick Vermeil.
I think Spags had a bit of that going for him, but he had zero talent to work with. As bad as those teams were, they played hard even after the season was lost.
Let’s hope McVay is that kind of leader. It only helps.
ZooeyModeratori mean now. i can’t imagine they give a 30 year old rookie head coach final say on personnel.
Yeah. Gotta think it’s Snead. Though I bet they still try having a consensus.
ZooeyModeratori think this could be the guy to resurrect robert quinn? i wonder how he does as a standup edge rusher.
Been thinking about this all afternoon since the idea was first posed.
There is one player whose size and speed keeps coming to mind for me when I consider Quinn in this role: Charles Haley.
A guy who, coincidentally, also had back issues.
ZooeyModeratorPhillips has been a head coach or DC for a combined 34 years.
OUt of those 34 years, how many times has a defense of his been ranked lower than 13th?
12.
How many times has a defense of his been ranked top 5?
10.
Hmm.
That isn’t the worst track record in history.
ZooeyModeratorI just want to point out that Phillips is 40 years older than McVay. I dunno. I’m over 50, and I would have to “get over” being the boss of someone who is old enough to be my father.
January 12, 2017 at 8:15 pm in reply to: The mammal precursors that lived before the dinosaurs… #63316
ZooeyModeratorWhere are the pictures of the mermaids?
I have to add, it looks like a lot of those pictures were photoshopped. Besides, one of them has a rainbow in it, and God didn’t invent the rainbow until after Noah’s flood as a covenant that he wouldn’t drown everything again. But I don’t think dinosaurs survived the flood, anyway, so that picture can’t be real.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t know who Jimmy Dore is, but I kinda like him.
ZooeyModeratorAnthony Lynn?
The Bills offense wasn’t great but they did have a good running game, didn’t they?
Not a sexy pick but I assume McVay knows what he’s doing.
This is not official. This is rumor.
ZooeyModeratorThis is great.
McVay can coach the Rams for the next 40 years and make Tom Landry look like a temp.
ZooeyModeratorWhat unverified claims? Trump himself agrees there was hacking.
And it’s not the CIA. It’s every intel agency.
I think he is referring to the 35-page dossier from the British ex-spy who says the Ruskies have financial and personal dirt on Trump sufficient to blackmail him. Not the hacking.
ZooeyModeratorThis is really no bueno.
It’s also mysterious because I heard on the radio last night that the deadline to make a decision was extended by two days until the 17th. Why would they get a two-day extension, then make the decision the same day, four days before the original deadline?
And I don’t get it. With the NFL money, plus the relocation fee, he’s got a billion dollars towards a $1.2 billion stadium in SD. He’s moving over $200 million. To a far less friendly fan base.
None of this makes any sense. Spanos, by all accounts WANTS to be in San Diego. Could the announcement of a move to LA be a last second bluff to shake some more money out of San Diego?
The thought has crossed my mind, but it is probably wishful thinking.
I wonder if some meeting is happening in San Diego. Why else extend the deadline two days? I mean…what for? Why did they extend the deadline for a decision by two days? Then announce early?
January 12, 2017 at 10:05 am in reply to: Exxon compelled to release what it knows about Climate Change #63205
ZooeyModeratorA spokesman said the company is reviewing the decision to determine the next steps.
The next step is to shred documents.
I’m sure the process started before the ruling, even.
There is no fine – even if they get caught – that would hurt them more than the release of documents that damn the oil industry.
ZooeyModeratorThis is really no bueno.
It’s also mysterious because I heard on the radio last night that the deadline to make a decision was extended by two days until the 17th. Why would they get a two-day extension, then make the decision the same day, four days before the original deadline?
And I don’t get it. With the NFL money, plus the relocation fee, he’s got a billion dollars towards a $1.2 billion stadium in SD. He’s moving over $200 million. To a far less friendly fan base.
January 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm in reply to: Chomsky on Trump…emphasis on climate change, racial demographics #63164
ZooeyModeratorMan, oh, man. As january 20 approaches, I just get sicker and sicker in my stomach. These cabinet appointments…Jesus Christ. And Pence and McConnell and Ryan. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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Well, zooey we were totally screwed either way. As you know.I dont know if Trump will be worse than Hillary, because i dont know what effect the Trump presidency will have four years from now. I also dont agree with noam that every single policy of Trumps is worse than Hillarys. I mean its conceivable to me that Trumps trade deals will be better than Hillarys. I dunno.
He’s a monster though. No doubt. And his cabinet and supreme court justices and fed judges are gonna be nightmarish.
But maybe it will shock people into some kind of leftist-resistance. I think you agree that is our one ray of hope.
…Speaking of Trump tweets andd trump talk…Someone today told me Trump supporters take him seriously, but dont take him literally. And anti-trumpers take him literally but not seriously.
I dunno if that makes any sense but thats what i heard at the water cooler today.
Oh, he will be worse.
I also disagree with Noam that he will be worse in every measurable way. I tend to prefer de-escalation of tension with Russia, for example, and hope that leads to an end of the Syrian conflict, and a relaxation of our murderous exploits in oil-producing countries.
But he will be worse. Look at his appointments. Hillary would have supported pipelines and fracking, but Trump wants to do away with the EPA entirely. Hillary wouldn’t outright assault public education. Trump will. Hillary wouldn’t roll back civil rights with judicial appointments and an a-hole attorney general like Sessions. You can go right down the list. He is more extreme than status quo corporate, planet-killing. He is for killing it faster.
She would have been bad, no doubt. But Trump is worse.
ZooeyModeratorI wonder if the package deal rumors have swayed Elways thinkin?
For the record…I’m fine with the package deal…just not thrilled with daddy as a GM.
If Vance Joseph gets the job that could put Phillips on the street. VJ is a defensive guy and would MTL want his system and guys in place.
If it plays out like that, I would hope Shanahan gives Phillips a call from LA and has him fly out for a steak.
Ditto that.
January 11, 2017 at 11:26 am in reply to: Chomsky on Trump…emphasis on climate change, racial demographics #63094
ZooeyModerator“[They] are sinking into hopelessness, despair and anger — not directed so much against the institutions that are the agents of the dissolution of their lives and world, but against those who are even more harshly victimized,” he said. “Signs are familiar, and here it does evoke some memories of the rise of European fascism.”
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This is the key difference between Sanders supporters and Trump supporters. In many ways, they were talking about the same disease: wealth disparity, opportunity disparity, and all that comes with that. But Sanders supporters generally identified our institutions as responsible for that disparity, while Trump supporters blame blacks, latinos, muslims, women, PC libruls who give away their “rights” as handouts to others.
Man, oh, man. As january 20 approaches, I just get sicker and sicker in my stomach. These cabinet appointments…Jesus Christ. And Pence and McConnell and Ryan. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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