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ZooeyModeratorBad.
ZooeyModeratorForce Goff to think, and make the Rams stop the run. Yep. That seems to be the recipe.
Also, they are right about the streakiness of the passing game. That’s what the eyeballs say, too.
The Rams will go as far as Gurley takes them. Goff is still short of being a difference-maker himself.
December 20, 2017 at 9:31 am in reply to: reporters on the SEATTLE game, including tweets n articles n vids #79203ZooeyModeratorDeacon Jones had 159.5 with the Rams.
Yeah, official v. unofficial stats.
If you do the unofficial numbers, Youngblood had 151.5, Larry Brooks had 68.5, Coy Bacon had 130 (though not all with the Rams), and Olsen had 94.
Yeah. And I loved Leonard Little. Great player. But…you know. The Rams have had some greats on the DL.
ZooeyModeratorBest Rams game since?
This is up there with the crushing of the 49ers in Week 4 of ’99
Beating Minnesota in the playoffs that year (including a 35 point 3rd quarter)
Intercepting Favre 5 times in the playoffs in…2001?Also loved Bulger’s comeback against San Diego.
This is a game I won’t ever forget, though. Right up there among the best.
December 20, 2017 at 1:45 am in reply to: reporters on the SEATTLE game, including tweets n articles n vids #79195ZooeyModeratorQuinn is tied with former DE Kevin Carter for third in franchise history with 62.5 career-sacks. Former DE Leonard Little holds the franchise record for career-sacks with 87.5.
Deacon Jones had 159.5 with the Rams.
December 19, 2017 at 11:15 pm in reply to: rankings, grades, ratings, significant stats etc. … week 16 #79188ZooeyModeratorI will never tire of this
play:i laughed out loud when that play happened.
and i have a ton of respect for wilson. but that’s what makes it that much more impressive.
It was a spectacle.
ZooeyModerator“the Titans… own a 9-1 record in their last 10 games in Nashville.”
hmmmmmm
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vI don’t think that much matters. Fisher is a blowhard, and vastly overrated. Look for the Rams to contain Kearse, and for Marshall Faulk to take over the game.
7-0, baby!
ZooeyModeratorThat’s the Rams defense when they go door to door christmas caroling.
Deck the halls with limbs of seahawks. Fa la la la la la la la!
Tis the season we take first place. Fa la la la la la la la!Speaking of christmas and you captioning pictures. I miss the “Interesting Pictures” threads that you used to do. It would be a nice gift to me if you were to create another one of those threads. After all, this board should be all about trying to make me happy.
‘Tis a thing zn excels at.
December 19, 2017 at 1:47 pm in reply to: Colin Cowherd, Michael Silver & others on the "changing of the guard" theme #79151ZooeyModeratorThe Barnwell piece is interesting. He put a lot of work into that article. It went way beyond the standard issue reporting.
I tend to agree with him that the Rams aren’t likely to make it through the playoffs. They would have to win 3 straight games against tough opponents, and two of those on the road. Their first round draw is not likely to be a gimme, either. I don’t relish the Panthers, Falcons, or Saints. Then they will probably have to get through both Minnesota and Philly on the road. Any one of those games is winnable. All three? Yeah, I dunno.
It would make a nice script, though, if they were to make it to the Super Bowl, and then beat the Patriots on a field goal as time expired. There would be some satisfaction in taking down the dynasty that took down the Rams’ dynasty (though the Rams’ dynasty was a little better, as they made the super bowl 67% of the time during their run whereas the Patriots have made it less than half the time during their run).
ZooeyModeratorMy concern is after the game we had, which was blowing out the Seahawks in Seattle, if we could have a possible let down next week.
I don’t think this team lets down.
I know that sounds like homer kool-aid stuff, but I don’t think it is. I think that’s real. I don’t think this team lets down.
I don’t either.
Because they are new to winning, basically. And right now, they are drinking the Sean McVay Kool-Aid by the gallon. A team that has won some is probably more likely to have a letdown game somewhere in its maturation process than a team brand new to winning. The Rams MIGHT lose, but it will be a result of their greenhorn bungling, not because they take the game for granted.
December 18, 2017 at 11:44 am in reply to: a painful lament from a Seattle perspective, and so a fun read #79091ZooeyModeratorThe first game the Rams made five turnovers, so it was kinda hard to really compare both teams. This game the Seahawks had so many key injuries its still hard to compare the two teams.
We ‘know’ the Rams arent ‘that’ good and seattle’s not ‘that’ bad.
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vWell, of course. Nobody is THAT good, and nobody is THAT bad. But what we have here is an emphatic coup d’etat. The Rams asserted more than a temporary claim to the reins in the NFC West. They had the previous emperor drawn-and-quartered publicly, and his body parts fed to the dogs. I don’t think Seattle’s psyche is going to be the same after this. They aren’t entering next season with the confidence they’ve had the past several seasons. It isn’t “their” division anymore.
I am not burying them. Don’t get me wrong. They are going to go apply some resources to the OL for damn sure, and recover from some pretty terrible injuries…seriously, you can’t lose 5 starters – All-Pro starters – from the defense and …really, they’ve had a competitive season in spite of devastation to the roster. They are a good team, and they don’t need a teardown.
But their swagger is gone. You aren’t going to see blithe tweets from Russell Wilson before Rams games ever again.
That was a great article. Reminded me in places of Matt Taibbi. Creative imagery galore.
A favorite of mine:
“instead of starring in the show, the Seahawks tripped over the curtain, crashed face-first into a stage light, and shattered their frenum, forcing them to recite the entirety of their lines through an oral swamp of blood and broken teeth.”
ZooeyModeratorThat was a spectacular beatdown of Wilson by the Rams. They got inside his laundry, and then inside his head. He made a couple of plays worthy of a 3rd string rookie. His desperation pass that spun into a lateral for a big loss was astonishing. But he topped off his career day with his intentional grounding from the end zone when his pocket was as clean as it had been all day.
As joemad observed, the game was over in the 2nd quarter, and with 8 minutes left to halftime, my concern shifted to “Can the Rams keep their focus together while they kill 2 1/2 quarters of clock?” You see teams have letdowns in these situations that can allow an opponent to eek back into a game they have no business contesting. But the Rams didn’t let it happen.
A big moment – imo – was when McVay called the defense over after some sloppy unnecessary roughness and told them to get their shit together, and focus on winning the game. They went right back out, and put their foot on Seattle’s neck, and kept it there until the end of the game. That was a Big Deal, imo.
Goodness, if I had known ahead of time that Goff was going to end up with under 200 passing yards, I would have expected the worst. That game was all Defense, Todd Gurley, and Pharoh Cooper. The Rams simply gashed Seattle from the opening drive. I am surprised the Seattle fans didn’t turn on them sooner. But they may have been in such shock, they couldn’t process it.
In the biggest Rams game in more than a decade, the Rams rose up and eviscerated an opponent in a notoriously difficult place to win.
This team will be a preseason favorite to win it all next year. The renaissance has finally come to Rams fans. Our 40 years in the wilderness is officially over. The Spags, the Linehans, the Fishers. All the signs of an imminent harvest that collapsed under fire blight year after year…over.
It is Thanksgiving, people. And there is bounty on the table. It is playoff time, the Rams are here, and winter is coming.
ZooeyModeratorI still have to watch it. Just saw highlights but wow. Dominated them. That’s a butt whooping.
A special thanks to Jeffery Osborne and the power of positive thinking.
Loving it.
Oh, hey, thanks, Debbie Downer. You are an inspiration to us all.
ZooeyModeratorI just can’t believe this is not a nationally televised game.
I keep thinking it might have been if the Rams had beaten the Eagles.
If they beat the Eagles, there would be LESS on the line in this game.
But the Rams would be a “hotter commodity,” at least in terms of national perceptions.
Look, have you worked for network sports programming before? Hmm? Well I have. For nearly 30 years. And I only exaggerate slightly. If at all.
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Hotter than the return of our Lord and Savior, Aaron Favre? His return as QB of the Packers was going to draw attention.
ZooeyModeratorI cannot see keeping Austin at his price. Nobody gets that kind of money for that little production, and I think Cooper can do what he does. And Dunbar, or Robert Holcombe, or whatever.
ZooeyModeratorIf they win, they own the division, or close to.
If they lose? I will consider this a good season although disappointing at the end with them having to turn the final corner still but I will be longterm optimistic along with short term disappointed.
We know what the Rams advantages are. To me their big DISadvantage is the lingering tendency to make big mistakes instead of big plays in some of their close games.
Should they lose, there is actually still hope.
Seattle is at Dallas next week, with Elliott back and Dallas with something to play for. The Rams could lose both games to Seattle, and still edge them for the division. Not that I advocate that.
ZooeyModeratorI just can’t believe this is not a nationally televised game.
I keep thinking it might have been if the Rams had beaten the Eagles.
If they beat the Eagles, there would be LESS on the line in this game.
ZooeyModeratorThe latest from CBS:
The Seahawks’ Bobby Wagner (hamstring) is questionable to face the Rams on Sunday after missing practice all week, but as per early Sunday morning reports, he believes he can play and will test things out in pregame warmups. Meanwhile, teammate K.J. Wright (concussion) is doubtful after missing practice all week.
ZooeyModeratorYou have a talent for making friends, am I right?
ZooeyModeratorAs far as ISIS’ threat…they would attack us anyway if they could. This makes little difference.
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Maybe, but maybe it will motivate some new-recruits who wouldnt have joined had it not been for this ‘last straw’ etc, and so forth.
I dunno.
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vI thought that before I typed it.
But then I thought…they can point to the US support of Israel anyway. Like…we give them billions of dollars and weapons, and enable the settlements, and on and on. The embassy isn’t a tipping point for anybody. Our support is well past the tipping point anyway.
So…yeah…they will use it. But it’s absence wouldn’t make any difference, wouldn’t make it any more challenging to recruit.
ZooeyModeratorI freely admit I don’t know a lot about this, but my thought is that West Jerusalem is the de facto capital of Israel whether we acknowledge it or not. That’s where their government is. Our embassy location doesn’t change that.
However, there is a certain amount of value in the international acknowledgement of that fact.
So…what Trump did…was GIVE AWAY something in exchange for absolutely nothing. Previous presidents have tried to use this as a bargaining chip in negotiating a cessation of the settlements, for example. Trump just gave it up for nothing in return. And offended people unnecessarily.
And also probably won the hearts back of some of the evangelicals who have been growing more tepid in their support.
As far as ISIS’ threat…they would attack us anyway if they could. This makes little difference.
ZooeyModeratorIf Wagner and Wright are out, I don’t think Seattle has a chance. I just don’t.
I would wager they will both play, though. Their season depends upon this game. They lose this, and it is over for them.
I also think they are right to say that the Seahawks could win this game, and still lose the division. They have Dallas next week, and Dallas is still in the hunt, and Elliot will be back, and it’s in Dallas. After that, they have Arizona. They HAVE to win this game, or it is certain doom for them.
ZooeyModeratorHere’s why the Rams will win Sunday.
Because the universe needs things to go like this.
Seattle beats Philadelphia in Seattle.
Then, Philadelphia beats the Rams in LA.
So next, LA beats Seattle in Seattle.
That’s what the universe wants. Seattle over Phil, Phil over LA, LA over Seattle.
It’s the perfect way for things to be. Do it any other way, and it’s possible to make sense of things. But not this way.
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I saw an M.C. Escher sketch of that on a cocktail napkin in the Museo del Prado.
ZooeyModeratorOne post I saw on another board declared that the sad thing about the NFL net story was that she wasn’t all that attractive. So you know not worth it.
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Yeah, i saw that post too. I just shook my head.
…this morning as i was driving to a cthouse, i was listening to some national sports-radio thing. And the host and guest were discussing the Faulk-Taylor-NFL thing and it was SOOO obvious they had no idea how to even discuss it. The ended up making jokes. The host asked the guest what his wife would do if he “sent her penis pictures on the cell phone”. They had a giggle-fest.
Clueless about how to talk about it like adults.
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vI think it is hard for a lot of people to talk about. I have heard people claim that men are saying now that they can’t flirt anymore, or tell someone they look nice, or whatever. And I think there are men who are GENUINELY unable to see where the lines are for whatever reason. Maybe because they can’t put themselves in the woman’s shoes, or something. But they just don’t see the difference between a “normal” signal, and a signal that crosses the line and makes somebody uncomfortable, or even scared, threatened, etc.
And some women, of course, don’t see it, either. I remember a famous photo from last year with some woman wearing a t-shirt that said something like, “Trump can grab me here” with an arrow drawn down to her crotch. You may have seen the photo.
And a week or so ago, I was talking with a secretary when a girl left the office sobbing, carried out by a friend, and I made some comment about how tears are not an uncommon sight in high school. And she then she related a story of when she was in high school, and she was with a couple of girlfriends – freshman year – and one of her friends had this really “nice ass,” and she was wearing a short skirt. There was a hallway where the senior boys hung out on the walls, and they were kind of scared to walk through the boys, but they did. A couple of them flipped up this girl’s skirt, and she ended up going to the office and crying, and wanting to change schools, and so on. And the secretary’s attitude was kind of, “Boys will be boys.” She says she told her, ‘Well, you DO have a nice ass.” Like…what do you expect?
I think this a really good thing that is happening. For the first time ever, we are starting to have dialogue on this. I don’t know that it will change perceptions much, but I do know perceptions aren’t going to change at all if we DON’T have these conversations.
ZooeyModeratorWell, I just haven’t processed all of this yet. I have to say, a part of me knew all this was going on. But a part of me didn’t realize it was so pervasive, and so completely over-the-top, so often. I’m not surprised by any of the cases. I am a little surprised that so many people are soooo blatant about it. I mean…really? You’re going to take pictures of your erection and send it? Or whip it out as an Opening Move? Grope without getting signals first? And keep coming back with more when the first blatant play was refused?
It isn’t just a rare knucklehead. It seems to be widespread amongst the rich and powerful. And I’m going to guess among the poor and powerless as well.
I’m waiting for the backlash. Cuz you know it’s coming. The “Men Are the Real Victims Here” argument.
It’s beyond depressing.
ZooeyModeratorWhen the Rams used a 4-3, Quinn, Sims, and Hayes could keep Wilson in the pocket while Donald and Brockers collapsed it. Not sure the current defense will be able to do that as well as they have in past years.
They held Wilson to 198 yards passing in the first game. With just 3 sacks. Wilson was not the reason Seattle won the first game. They won 16 – 10, remember.
The Rams defense is better right now than Seattle’s, and their offense has been better all year long. And their special teams are better. The Rams are better.
The game is in Seattle. Russell Wilson is ridiculously dangerous. Pete Carroll is one of the best. And it is a very disciplined, patient team with a lot of experience in big games.
But the Rams are better.
It’s going to be close. I am going to throw up several times, and probably get insomnia starting Friday night after I submit all my grades and really start thinking about how much money I have on this fucking game. (I will never do this to myself again).
ZooeyModeratorThat’s not Brockers or Wentz or the playcall or the blocking. That’s just what fucking happened.
I don’t know.
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Tom Mack still hasnt moved. Thats all i know.
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vIs that the Worst Ref Call in Rams’ history?
I can’t think of a worse call.
There have to be contenders, but I can’t even think of any right now. Of course, the older I’ve got, the more I’ve learned to accept bad calls as “bad bounces,” so they may not stick with me with the same force.
ZooeyModeratorBeating Seattle is the only thing that matters to me right now.
ZooeyModeratorI liked the chances of the Rams against the Vikings, the Saints, and the Eagles.
The Vikes beat them.
They beat the Saints.
The Eagles game was there for the taking, and the Rams’ inexperience cost them that game.
The Seahawks…well, the Rams nearly beat them in spite of 5 turnovers, including the Gurley fumble that fate could have turned the other way, and the Rams could have gone up big right there. Even so, they had the ball in the end zone as time expired, and could have won. They outplayed Seattle that day, except for 5 turnovers.
Now Seattle is down Chancellor, Sherman, Avril (again), and maybe Wagner. So although it is in Seattle, the Rams ought to have superiority in numbers. Superiority in talent on the field.
Both teams are going to want this game badly, obviously, so it will be an all out battle.
If that Rams lose, I will have to attribute their position in first place more to the mirage of a bad early start by Seattle than their own power as a team. I won’t doubt they are headed in the right direction, but I will see going 1-3 in these Big Games as evidence they don’t belong yet with the Big Boys.
They ought to win this game. Seattle is pretty badly damaged on defense, and the Rams are second in the league in scoring, and have a very good defense that should get the better of the weak Seattle OL. Wilson is a handful, and his receivers are good, and this will be close.
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