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June 4, 2018 at 12:18 pm in reply to: Trump lawyers sent bombshell memo to Mueller in January #87029
ZooeyModeratorMy brother had that David Frye album, and I listened to it many times. Maybe that’s why I was ripe for mind-corrupting leftist thought.
ZooeyModeratorNah, I love this logo. Best logo in sports.
It’s a SKULL. A deceased Ram.
But…I guess that’s what I should expect from a 9ers fan.
ZooeyModeratorOr dramatically alter them and add other features, like this:
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I hate that thing. Just so you all know.
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vI’ve never liked it, either.
Nor have I ever been a fan of this:
This is okay:
ZooeyModeratorThe guy is pretty good. I’ve grown to like him quite a lot.
ZooeyModerator“Rams told Nike don’t touch horn design on helmets…”
Well at least the corporate weasels got ‘that’ right.
When the biosphere dies,
and the earth is a silent dystopian desert,
and only iguanas and crows and zombies roam the land,
I hope a limping, broken-legged zombie or two are wearing proper Ram helmets.
Blue and White, preferably.w
vI feel pretty confident in guessing that approximately 17,687 people out of the 3,500 people they surveyed told them to fucking leave the horns the fuck alone.
Well, Nike shouldn’t leave the horns completely alone.
They need to make them thicker.
The thin, wispy horns they currently have are an affront to the memories of Tank Younger and Dan Towler.
Now THAT’S a set of horns you can set your watch to.
Yes.
But what they can’t do is get rid of the horns.
Or dramatically alter them and add other features, like this:
ZooeyModerator“Rams told Nike don’t touch horn design on helmets…”
Well at least the corporate weasels got ‘that’ right.
When the biosphere dies,
and the earth is a silent dystopian desert,
and only iguanas and crows and zombies roam the land,
I hope a limping, broken-legged zombie or two are wearing proper Ram helmets.
Blue and White, preferably.w
vI feel pretty confident in guessing that approximately 17,687 people out of the 3,500 people they surveyed told them to fucking leave the horns the fuck alone.
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Well, i guess at some point people just decide to believe in something. I mean, how in the world do people believe Alex Jones? How do people believe in Lizard-People? How do people believe Trump? Hitler? On and on.
I think Lie-Factories and Dirty-Rotten-Systems just…damage people. And damaged-people are prone to latch on to anything, Fascism, Trumpism, anything. Humans iz dangerous.
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vThe mean average literacy level in the US is 7th or 8th grade. Which is why that is the level that instructions are written. Etc.
And in some places, it is worse. Of course.
Americans get a high percentage of their information through the media. Much of that is misinformation.
I figure if a person doesn’t graduate from high school, or go much past that…there isn’t much hope of them ever getting much exercise in critical thinking.
TV does not help advance critical thinking. Quite the opposite, actually.
ZooeyModeratorHoo, boy.
That’s going to lead to some game-changing calls.
But it’s the right thing to do, I think. The CTE incidents will damage the game (to say nothing of lives) more that altering the game like this.
I’ve never been fond of players deliberately trying to injure opposing players. Play the game.
ZooeyModeratorAs I’ve heard mentioned elsewhere, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rams and Donald already have a handshake agreement. The Rams just need to free up cap space…maybe by cutting Barron.
They had to wait until June 1st to cut him but now they can save $7 million in cap space, if they choose to go that route.I hope you’re right, but I don’t know about that.
I read an article months ago that posited that Mack and Donald were kind of waiting for the other guy to sign first, so that they can negotiate a bit more to win the title of highest paid defensive player. With agents and ego involved, that seems all too possible, and that concerns me.
I understand there is a hard deadline for Donald to report under his current contract or else he doesn’t earn a full year towards his FA status, and I’m afraid we will come down to that date, whatever it is, and be without Donald at the beginning of the season again.
ZooeyModeratorI thought support for single payer was a lot higher than that. I thought I’d seen 70%. Looks like that figure is among Democrats.
So while it’s a majority of Americans, it’s a pretty thin majority.
Well, that’s depressing.
ZooeyModeratorAlright, well, I was on the fence about Donald, but now I’m leaning towards signing him. What do I need to do?
ZooeyModeratorThere was a controversy about this earlier on the board when it was pointed out that Burns did not even mention the Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked. The Ken Burns version of Vietnam http://theramshuddle.com/search/Tonkin/
When I realize they did that I decided to never watch it.
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That seems like a rather significant omission.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t remember where I read it, but now that I think about it, it was probably a bit distorted.
I just found this little nugget, and this sounds the kind of thing that would form the basis of that claim.
“In the second district of Virginia, the DCCC has endorsed a former Republican, Elaine Luria, who voted twice for Scott Taylor, the Republican she’s hoping to unseat on behalf of the Democrats; she’s not the only “former Republican” whose campaign you’ll be supporting if you donate to the DCCC — there’s also Nebraska’s Brad Ashford. Both secured the DCCC endorsement over progressive Democrats, who were shunned by the party establishment.”
Don’t give a dime to the DCCC, they’ll just use to front DINOs and smear Justice Democrats
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I like raisin toast.
Where did you read this ?
“…The DNC has literally donated money to Republican candidates running against progressives…”Every time i think my opinion of the Democrats cant get any lower…geez.
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vHere are links to stories about the trend, generally, and both mention the Texas thing.
https://www.thenation.com/article/when-dccc-calls-hang-up-the-phone/
I haven’t found the direct donation, though I think it was the DCCC as opposed to the DNC, and I will keep looking. It was in a special election, somewhere in the south. I will keep searching.
ZooeyModeratorThere is a crucial difference between what Barr said and what Bee said, and it is, of course, totally lost on people without critical thinking skills.
Barr denigrated a woman for who she IS. On religious and racial grounds. That is a denigration that extends beyond the boundaries of a single person. It is the kind of insult, the kind of thinking that has prompted countless – almost daily – examples of racists harassing minorities since the rise of Trump.
Bee attacked Ivanka for what she DID. (or actually, for what she hasn’t done, in this case). She called out Ivanka for her tone deaf picture celebrating family while her father’s administration – of which she is an influential member – tears families apart. That’s Ivanka specific.
Nobody walks into a Starbucks now, or a BBQ spot by a city lake, or anywhere else, and thinks, “Hey, there’s a white woman. She must be a bitch like Ivanka.”
Bee shouldn’t have used a misogynist term, but her insult nonetheless is directed at a specific, deserving target, and has no spillover to other people.
ZooeyModeratorYeah. That, too.
Those are the kinds of things that are routinely absent from the history Americans learn, and the kinds of details that we have all faced hostility for drawing attention to over the years.
They are crucial frames. And their absence from the narrative is a big reason why our government is able to continue to perform these kinds of atrocities to standing ovations from the general public.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t think that’s what we need at all ! This country is essentially by history fairly conservative. By moving too far to the left we all but insure a more powerful and stronger right. And with a stronger right comes authoritarianism and demagoguery. And of course from that comes what we not have in the WH. IMO any move to the extreme-right or left-is simply another form of populism that appeals to the popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. I don’t ever want to see a left version of Trump. This one is bad enough for me.
No, it wouldn’t. Because if there was an actual move to the Left, the Right would be permanently disempowered. At least the Right as it is constructed today.
A move to the Left would include doing away with the mechanism of campaign financing that makes our representatives sell out to the highest bidders. If we removed the ability of corporations to directly bribe representatives, the Right would never win. Because the Left positions…as zn points out…are held by MOST Americans. Like….70% favor universal healthcare. That’s HUGE. You can’t get 70% of people to agree that eggs are great for breakfast. On issue after issue, polls show the American public is to the left of the Democrats. On military spending, environmental issues, education, on and on and on.
If you free politics from Big Money, and allow congress to vote on its conscience rather than on its sponsorships, and we will have different results. I mean…look at these jackholes once they are out of office. Out of office, Gore suddenly grew a conscience about climate change. Out of office, Boehner has just denounced the Republican party today.
ZooeyModeratorThis.
“…As William Kaufman told Barbara Ehrenreich on Facebook last year, “The Democrats aren’t feckless, inept, or stupid, unable to ‘learn’ what it takes to win. They are corrupt. They do not want to win with an authentically progressive program because it would threaten the economic interests of their main corporate donor base. … The Democrats know exactly what they’re doing. They have a business model: sub-serving the interests of the corporate elite.”
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vYes, and on top of that, the article points out that they would prefer to lose to Republicans than lose to progressives.
And there is evidence to back that up. The DNC has literally donated money to Republican candidates running against progressives, and have released damning information on a progressive in Texas, portraying her as a “Washington Insider” {snort}, to the direct advantage of the Republican candidate. The Democrats are merely playing a role in Democracy Theatre. They will fume and rail onstage, but when the show is over, they go to the same clubs with the Republicans and share drinks, giggles, and cellphone numbers.
Democrats just enabled the repeal of financial regulations to expose us to another profit-grab, and taxpayer bailout. They’re killing us.
ZooeyModeratorSide issue.
“…because “The Emmy Award is a powerful recognition of truth in art,” Emmy judges are asked to consider whether….”
Um…no. the Emmy Award is not a “powerful recognition of truth in art.”
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vI raised an eyebrow at that, too. But even though it isn’t intended to be that, you can bet a lot of consumers of Burns’ documentary would see an Emmy as a quality endorsement with “truth” implied. You know…this is an excellent documentary. If you’re going to watch ONE documentary on Vietnam, this is it….
ZooeyModeratorThe news that Zuerlein is kicking again is my favourite news to come out of OTAs so far. I don’t have a second favourite.
Ditto.
ZooeyModeratorThey’re all focused on Jimmy G, the new Oracle of the NFL. With seven starts under his belt.
Seriously. Especially here in the BA. To them, he’s the second coming of Christ.
Count me among those who hope he crashes and burns.
And I would like someone to make a video montage of random 9’ers fans’ faces as they watch it happen.
I think we can all agree that we will enjoy watching the Matt Casselization of Garopolo.
ZooeyModeratorWV Ram inserted a video
Yep. For sure. This was inevitably going to confirm for them what they already knew about the double-standards of the liberal media.
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ZooeyModeratorI think this article from The Nation paints Trump supporters with too broad of a brush, but the idea that the show was meant to polish the image of Trump supporters is interesting.
Roseanne Tried to Use ‘Roseanne’ to Prove that Trump Voters Aren’t Racist. There Was Just One Problem.
The media wants to depict Trump supporters sympathetically, but the actual beliefs of many of them make that impossible.
By Edward BurmilaRoseanne Barr’s culminating act of self-destruction, at least until she parlays martyrdom into a lucrative spot on the right-wing media circuit, is as revealing as it was predictable. Anyone surprised that she compared an African-American woman—Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama’s former senior adviser—to an ape either wasn’t paying attention or selectively forgot that she made the exact same comparison in regard to Susan Rice, Obama’s national security adviser, in 2013.
Condemnation for Barr’s tweets yesterday was swift. Roseanne writer Wanda Sykes quit via Twitter, and co-star Sara Gilbert rejected Barr’s comments. Then, within hours, ABC canceled the show. This response, however, looks less laudatory when considered in light of the more important question: Why did the network, cast members, writers, and producers allow someone with a demonstrated track record of racism, anti-Semitism, and dangerous conspiracy theories to have a platform on network television in the first place?
The Jarrett comment hardly comes out of nowhere. Barr has based much of her career on sledgehammer subtlety, especially after the initial run of her eponymous TV show. Brief lowlights include her screeching, crotch-grabbing national anthem stunt (which conservatives overlook, apparently, because she was not kneeling), smearing the Parkland shooting survivors, making casually racist “jokes,” and being a conduit for anti-Semitic lies that play disturbingly well on the right.
Everyone who helped make the new Roseanne show happen ignored all of this. The simplest, least satisfying explanation of why this happened is money. An industry reduced to mining nostalgia for an endless parade of reboots, remakes, and sequels could not resist reviving one of the essential, culture-defining sitcoms of the nineties. In this light, ABC saw the new Roseanne as no different than Fuller House—mindless, derivative, easy to churn out, and profitable.
The more complicated answer involves the media’s drive to “humanize” and explain those who see Trump as their long-awaited salvation. Like the endless journalistic forays into the Rust Belt to profile Trumpers with shuttered steel mills as a photo backdrop, the Roseanne reboot intended to show what the media kept calling the “white working class” sympathetically. The latest iteration of Roseanne Conner would demonstrate that the real-life people her character represents are not racist caricatures. This is, after all, what we would like to think about our fellow Americans—that we have differences, but we can still come together as one nation. Halfway through the first episode of the new season, Roseanne Conner and her Jill Stein-voting sister Jackie Harris, played by Laurie Metcalf, have already reconciled after an argument about Trump, hugging out their political differences.
But so often the actual Trump supporters ruin that narrative. Journalists and researchers are now finding in that the veneer of “economic anxiety” among Trump supporters is built on a foundation of hate. Fans of Trump say little about the president’s Gilded Age economic policies but boy do they fume over kneeling NFL players. And because this racism, xenophobia, and paranoia is not what we want to find, we go looking again and again until we find an answer that is more comforting.
Roseanne is inseparable from this quest to find evidence that Trumpers are ultimately good, kind-hearted people whose fears and economic insecurity are being exploited by a charlatan. It makes us uncomfortable to face the reality that tens of millions of Americans need no encouragement at all to support authoritarian and racist politics. Try as we may to tell ourselves that the masses are tricked into supporting far-right regimes in the US or Europe, the uncomfortable reality is that many are willing, even eager.
It is in this context that Roseanne was greenlit despite the lengthy trail of evidence Barr provides that she is, bluntly but undeniably, a person whose opinions range from vicious to idiotic. If the real world cannot show us likeable Trump supporters when reporters go looking for them, then by golly Hollywood will make some. ABC saw this show as a potential success, of course, but also as a way to show America the kind of prole the consensus, “both sides” obsessed media wants to see: A brassy Archie Bunker, not a hate-spewing conspiracy theorist.
This is the most charitable interpretation of the thought process used by ABC executives when they approved the show despite what Barr had revealed herself to be in recent years. They set out to create idealized characters representing the reality we’d like to see.
It worked briefly. The show was lauded initially for being “incredibly honest” about who Trump voters are. Conservatives loved the ratings success of a show they saw as a rebuke of leftist Hollywood. After the initial surge of interest, the show appeared to settle into a consistent ratings generator for ABC.
Ultimately, the real Roseanne undermined the fictional one. Roseanne the character could only humanize the show’s white Midwestern salt-of-the-earth types if Barr kept up appearances, at least well enough for viewers to suspend disbelief. She could not. Rather than celebrate the network and the show’s famous co-stars for speaking out now, it is better to reconsider their initial motives. If they did this simply for the money, they are unprincipled. If they did it to show audiences relatable and “normal” Trump-loving Americans, they are misguided.
Barr may have wanted to use a fictional version of herself to prove that white people who love Donald Trump—people like her, in short—are not racists who traffic in ludicrous conspiracy theories and detest anyone who isn’t like them. She failed because that is exactly what she is. ABC, in abetting this mess, found that even Hollywood magic can’t make sympathetic characters out of such people, although I suspect it will keep trying. The alternative is confronting the fact that the beliefs of a substantial number of Americans are malevolent and dangerous, not mere differences of opinion that can be resolved in 20 minutes and a hug.
May 29, 2018 at 6:58 pm in reply to: Corporate spending isn’t taking off the way Republicans predicted #86774ZooeyModeratorNone of this likely comes as a surprise to politicians like Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who voted for the massive tax cuts but acknowledged there’s no proof they will help the American worker.
“There is still a lot of thinking on the right that if big corporations are happy, they’re going to take the money they’re saving and reinvest it in American workers,” Rubio told The Economist in April. “In fact, they bought back shares, a few gave out bonuses. There’s no evidence whatsoever that the money’s been massively poured back into the American worker.”
Dirtbag Rubio.
Having his cake, and eating it, too.
He voted for it, and now he’s positioning himself against it ONLY so he can draw lines between himself and Trump for his 2020 run.
Shithead.
ZooeyModeratorOh, Lord.
I quit watching ESPN because I quit subscribing to cable. But I started to “go off” ESPN in the 80s because it evolved into sizzle. The network seemed to be more about the hosts than the news.
Then…with the internet…ESPN became completely pointless except as a delivery of live sports programming. I don’t really care about the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox. And that seems to be about 10% of ESPN’s programming. Then there’s all the other teams and sports. You watch ESPN for four hours, you might get one or two minutes of coverage of your favorite team, and due to the internet, you already know it anyway.
I think ESPN has just been eclipsed by The Rams Huddle, basically. Seriously. Nobody here relies on ESPN for sports news. We go to ESPN once in a while to check in on what the National Perception is of the Rams, but they never tell us anything we don’t already know, and often they’re wrong, or incomplete. So what use does ESPN have?
ESPN prospered when the only competition was the 6-minute sports segment on the local news. Compared to that, ESPN was great. Once the internet became widespread, ESPN became too general and too bloated in comparison.
ZooeyModeratorI was not a Chris Carter fan as a football player, but he has impressed me as an analyst every time I’ve heard him talk.
May 29, 2018 at 10:42 am in reply to: Teams Will be Fined if Players Kneel During National Anthem #86742ZooeyModeratorWhy aren’t people upset by the fact that policemen in this country are not held accountable when they unnecessarily kill people?
Explain to me why respectfully kneeling in memory of victims during the national anthem is more troubling than the fact that there is a steady stream of examples of the police killing unarmed, compliant black people.
A policeman can kill a black man, and there is no inquiry, no investigation, no assessment of that action. Instead, they just blame the victim for having drawn the attention of the police in the first place.
Our nation places a high value on “liberty and justice for all.” But if it, in fact, routinely violates that promise, and fails to even admit it, let alone look at ways to adjust police training and/or accountability, then how can it expect people to respect the flag anyway? Is it not complete hypocrisy to expect us to salute a set of values that we only give lip service to, but refuse to actually implement?
You want players to stop kneeling?
All you gotta do is demonstrate that there is an actual effort to live by the values that the flag represents.
If the police in this country were to extend police training by a couple of extra weeks to include education on racial stereotyping, and were to implement a internal review board for evaluating the actions of police officers, this whole thing would go away. Players would stand. Gladly. All they want is equality and “justice for all.”
Why is that unpatriotic?
ZooeyModeratorHey Billy and Zooey, I wish you both the best of health.
Zooey, that’s really interesting to me. I had a hiatal hernia show up on a cat scan a few years back. I’ve been taking omeprazole for years. I try not to take it all the time but I probably take it more than I should. I talked to my doctor about it but he didn’t seem very concerned. He said they usually don’t do surgery unless there’s a problem. Well, reflux by itself does not seem to be a problem, as far as he’s concerned and in fact he didn’t think the hernia really contributed much to that which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me but whatever.
I don’t get spasms when I eat but sometimes I wake up with acid coming up in my throat and one time I sucked some of it into my lungs which set off a really bad asthma attack.
One way I can reduce acid is my diet–which is awful really. The pills help some. Years ago I had some sort of spasm there and was prescribed reglan(i think it was called)which helped the situation. But mainly for now–I should eat better–avoid certain foods(tomato based stuff, cokes), that really make it bad. I hope this works for you. It would be nice to know that the surgery is effective if I ever need it.
Good luck.
Yeah, I have woken up a few times with acid eruptions shooting up into my mouth.
Once I’m back on a regular diet, I am going to decrease my intake of omeprazole, and hope to eliminate it entirely. I figure give this about 3 months, and if I am not suffering acid reflux, and not having the spasms, then it’s a clear win. I will let you know.
You should get an endoscopy, though, and see if your esophagus is developing scar tissue. I don’t know…if you aren’t having difficulty swallowing, maybe you are okay. I think the blockages I was experiencing indicated a risk of perforating the esophagus at some point. We’ll see.
But I sure would think that the hernia is directly related to the reflux. All of my doctors agreed that it was the primary cause of all my disturbances.
May 28, 2018 at 1:01 pm in reply to: How the Government Managed to Lose Track of 1,500 Migrant Children #86698ZooeyModeratorI can’t believe I am seeing this happen in the United States. I can’t believe hatred and racism have bounced back with such strength that not only are we seeing racists assault people verbally and physically, our government itself is violently racist. And where the hell is congress? I can’t believe more than a handful of Republicans would go along with this. And where are the Democrats? This is insane.
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