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znModeratorAugust 10, 2019 at 1:39 am in reply to: us + reporters setting up the Oakland game (vids & words, us & them) #103842
znModeratorVeteranRamFan
Keep an eye on #14 Webster, WR. Kid is fast, good hands and cuts on a dime.
The other one that looked really good in camp is #9 Wolford, QB. It will be hard to make the final 53 but look for him on the practice squad where I have a feeling he won’t last long with the Eagles losing their back up.
August 10, 2019 at 1:38 am in reply to: us + reporters setting up the Oakland game (vids & words, us & them) #103841
znModeratorBlake Bortles ready for his preseason opportunity
Blake Bortles ready for his preseason opportunity
Jared Goff won’t play in the Rams’ preseason opener Saturday. Blake Bortles will.
Bortles has two more years and 35 more starts than Goff, but Goff is the starting quarterback and Bortles now is his backup. If things go as planned for the Rams this season, the only action Bortles will see is in the preseason.
He will try to make the most of it.
“It’s an opportunity for me to get a new resumé on tape,” Bortles said, via Gary Klein of the Los Angeles Times.
Bortles signed a one-year contract with the Rams after the Jaguars gave up on the former No. 3 overall choice. It gives him a chance to learn under Sean McVay before hitting the free agent market in March in search of a starting job.
Bortles called it “an unbelievable system.”
“He’s really been impressive when you look at a guy that’s had a lot of success as a starter in some different systems, how quickly he’s been able to come in here, digest the material, be able to own it and then be able to help get guys on the same page with some of the younger guys he’s playing with,” McVay said.
August 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #103829
znModeratorREVEALED: DOJ blocked report showing white supremacists responsible for all race-based domestic terrorism incidents in 2018 – https://t.co/gfDFH5CQi8
— dutch163 (@dutch163) August 9, 2019
August 9, 2019 at 8:14 pm in reply to: the 2019 defense & why it looks so promising & so deep #103826
znModeratorRams’ veteran defensive additions provide ’emotional intelligence,’ make quick connections with teammates
Vincent Bonsignore
NAPA Calif. — When you’re the two-time defending NFL Defensive Player of the Year and your peers just voted you the best football player on the planet, suffice to say it takes a lot to impress you.
So it’s with tremendous appreciation Eric Weddle and Clay Matthews absorb the words of new teammate Aaron Donald, the aforementioned highly-decorated and dominating defensive tackle who lauded the presence of both Weddle and Matthews. The two free agents were welcomed into the Rams’ fold last March, both of them directing their agents to make deals with the defending NFC champions and believing the gas they still have left in the tank can add some much-needed fuel to the Rams’ bid to get back to the Super Bowl.
For the salary-cap-strapped Rams, it was like reaching into the pocket of an old pair of jeans and surprisingly finding a big wad of cash. They were able to add two quality veterans, who wanted so badly to be a part of their program, at a moderate price. That’s exactly the kind of good fortune you sometimes need when trying to maintain a championship-caliber roster while operating in the unforgiving world of NFL financial constraints.
And it’s not every day you can secure the type of talent and teammates that earns the immediate attention of the best player in the game.
“I’ve been loving (those) guys and watching (those) guys play,” Donald said after a spirited Rams practice against the Oakland Raiders on Thursday. “Like I said, I remember being young watching (those) guys play. Having an opportunity to play with these guys and work with these guys and learn from them is definitely a plus.”
And their presence is already being felt.
Weddle immediately stepped into the starting free safety role opposite emerging star strong safety John Johnson and has already assumed defensive play-calling duties. Matthews has taken the majority of starting reps at outside linebacker opposite Dante Fowler Jr., allowing third-year OLB Samson Ebukam to move to a rotational role replacing Matthews and Fowler depending on the defensive alignment. The Rams still have high hopes for Ebukam, who played through a painful knee issue last year, but the addition of Matthews and the retaining of Fowler means Ebukam can grow and develop with a tad less pressure.
It hasn’t taken long for Matthews and Weddle to already exert their influence.
“They’re doing great,” Donald said. “Adding Clay to the mix ain’t going to do nothing but help us up front, as far as getting after the quarterback and stopping the run. With Weddle back there, when it comes to football, that guy knows ball — he’s a genius. He’s making all of the right calls, doing all the right things. He will come up and hit you, too.”
Their influence — and how they use it — fits perfectly on a veteran Rams defense that didn’t require wholesale changes from last season and instead looked for subtle improvements. They do it in a way that’s respectful rather than overbearing, which isn’t always the case when a veteran joins a new team and tries to apply his stamp.
Weddle, in particular, has taken a leadership role in the defensive backfield while also blending in with fellow leaders Johnson, Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters. It’s a confident defensive backfield room with a bunch of Type-A personalities. That Weddle has acclimated himself already speaks a lot about his personable demeanor.
“Yeah, honestly that stuff comes natural,” Weddle said. “I work extremely hard with not just what I bring on the field, but off. The personalities, gaining that trust and the guys know and understand that I have their backs. When I tell them something or I learn something that they trust me, I have their backs and that’s the biggest thing. The guys know that if I tell them to do something and it doesn’t go well, I’m going to tell the coach that it was on me. When you have that trust and you have that accountability, everything runs smooth.
“I just go out there and be me. I know what I bring, I know I practice hard. I know I outwork everyone. So I let all that stuff put it to work. Less talking, more playing is what you need to do.”
And what he brings as a player and communicator has already been felt.
“When you got somebody that’s coming in and he’s thinking like (defensive coordinator) Wade (Philips), he knows everything from the front to the back end and he’s that vocal,” Peters said. “He’s telling everybody where to get lined up.
“It’s going to help you get more in tune and for you to start communicating a lot more and doing all those things. So, you know, once we are all communicating and all on the same page, we just play fast, man. The biggest thing for us (is) he’s just helping us all play fast, getting lined up, get our feet ready in the ground, and just go play football.”
There is a way and manner about Weddle and Matthews that’s equal parts wise, welcomed and respectful. It not only goes a long way, but it’s also done so without being heavy-handed.
“I totally agree,” Rams head coach Sean McVay responded when I pointed out that quality about his two new defensive players.
“I think, first of all, there’s an awareness. There’s an emotional intelligence that both those guys possess where it’s an ability to connect with your teammates. But, you just said it, in a non-overbearing way that becomes irritating. Neither one of those guys is like that at all. I just think there’s an urgency about the way they go about their business, and that’s something that I think everybody appreciates and knows why they’re going to help us get better.”
znModeratorGlazer on Kupp. I cannot believe how fast that dude is after coming off ACL surgery.
Will0120
I can tell you from my personal experience coming back from two torn ACL’s. Your knee will almost never be as good as the nature intends it to be.
What you do get is a laser focused rehab regimen that forces you to focus on the poor mechanics that you may have just gotten by with before. This can translate to an athlete being more in tune with what he/she can or cannot do and how they can further develop their mechanics for long term health/productivity.
Do you get faster realistically? Highly unlikely. Do you get to develop better mechanics? Very likely.
znModeratorfrom Jay Glazer‘s “mailbag”: https://theathletic.com/1125870/2019/08/09/glazers-training-camp-mailbag-on-the-biggest-surprise-of-camp-unusual-player-hobbies-and-another-prank-story/
Can Ed Oliver live up to the hype of being a mini-me of Aaron Donald?
No. Nobody is like Aaron Donald. There is no mini-me of him. In fact, when I was out there recently with the Rams, the players had the night off. I go to the weight room, and there is one dude left. It’s Aaron Donald. He had these compression sleeves on his biceps and he was doing this ridiculous arm workout, a burnout. I’m up for trying anything, but I looked at this and I thought, “If I do that, I’m not going to be able to move my arms until November.” He’s a freak.
znModeratorRams OLB Dante Fowler had standout day against the Raiders in combined practice. Fowler had at least four sacks…
The rest of that:
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
…. Fowler had at least four sacks, as he and Aaron Donald kept a constant presence in the backfield. “He’s doing great,” Donald said. “Making a lot of good plays and rushing the passer great.”August 9, 2019 at 2:23 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #103812
znModeratorBiden in Iowa: “Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.”
Yikes.
— Tania Singh (@TwinklingTania) August 9, 2019
znModeratorPFF's @PFF_Linsey compares team success in passing out of heavy sets versus lighter sets for offenses last year, and what advantages they have#Rams used lighter sets last year and found success. Read more about the case study over on the #PFF site:https://t.co/OmGQE8yKUc
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) August 9, 2019
August 9, 2019 at 2:15 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #103810
znModeratorWalmart has decided to stop running violent video game ads in their stores but will continue to sell guns. https://t.co/ug6cmn9EAk pic.twitter.com/Dpg1A13ght
— IGN (@IGN) August 9, 2019
znModeratorAn oldie but goodie, restored to the list.
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znModeratorfrom Jay Glazer‘s “mailbag”: https://theathletic.com/1125870/2019/08/09/glazers-training-camp-mailbag-on-the-biggest-surprise-of-camp-unusual-player-hobbies-and-another-prank-story/
What has surprised you so far in all of your training camp stops?
It’s Rams WR Cooper Kupp. I cannot believe how fast that dude is after coming off ACL surgery. It was late in the season, not that long ago, when he tore it. He looks faster, he’s cutting better. I was there last week, and I was stunned at what this guy looks like. He probably doesn’t get the credit he deserves, but after what I saw last week, yes, I proclaim him a freak of nature. Teammates always brag about how hard he works, and some guys are saying he’s always worked so hard and that this injury actually gave him some rest. His body got a chance to rest for the first time. But again, oh my goodness, I can’t believe what he looked like this soon after ACL surgery. It just doesn’t make any sense.
znModeratorIn April, Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi was sleeping outside and had to talk his way into a workout with the @Browns …
Tonight, he scored a TD in his first #NFLPreseason game and his teammates were hyped 🧡 (via @thecheckdown)pic.twitter.com/CO6R5vnktl
— ESPN (@espn) August 9, 2019
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Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi's pro journey
Crashed a workout in MIA
+ Ran a 4.38
+ Received invite to CLE tryout
+ Lived/slept in a 24-hr gym via guest passes
+ Charged phone in laundromat
+ ate 1-2x/day at random cookouts= 85-yd return TD in 1st gm as a Brownpic.twitter.com/QO1dCWze1b
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) August 9, 2019
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August 9, 2019 at 2:24 am in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #103789
znModeratorEvery single major Republican in the country is calling our gun crisis a “mental health” crisis while AT THE SAME TIME suing to remove mental health coverage from the Affordable Care Act.
That’s how you know they’re lying.
— Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) August 8, 2019
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
[Gurley] looks good. The plan now is to make sure that remains the case in December and JanuaryRams Wire@TheRamsWire
Marcus Peters on new teammate Eric Weddle: ‘He thinks like Wade’==
Donald: My main goal is to get back to the Super Bowl https://t.co/OPnh5tj2T3
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) August 9, 2019
znModeratorfrom Raider’s Fan wrote: Wednesday’s Practice Notes Rams Vs Raiders
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– Honestly, they struggled to get anything going. There was also one play where Clay Matthews came clean around the edge and would have BLOWN Carr up for a sack. It must have been a miscommunication between the TE and Trent Brown as he was completely unblocked. Might have been a delayed blitz.
– Fair to say the Rams D got the win in session 1.
– One thing to note: Marcus Peters managed to punch a ball out of Doug Martin’s hands (play had long been whistled dead, but still drew jeers from Rams sideline) and then Talib punched the ball out of Tyrell’s hands after a completion from Carr (ball went out of bounds, but still drew jeers from Rams sideline)…. I’m really hoping our coaching staff see this in the practice film and make it a coaching emphasis tonight and tomorrow. Talib and Peters maybe the best in the game at this — great reps and learning opportunity here.
– RANDOM NOTE: GRUDEN supervised the Raiders offense during the session, with Wade Phillips watching their defense. Sean McVay was on the other field watching the Rams offensive reps against Guenther and the defense. Olson may be the OC, but this is Gruden’s offense. PERIOD. Advantage Rams.
– Goff threaded the needle on a TD pass to TE Everett in the back of the endzone, right between Karl and Abrams. The two safeties both converged on Everett and you heard an immediate POP as they collided, but great pass from Goff. Everett got up and span the ball in the endzone, which Abrams didn’t like. A few Raiders got in Everett’s ear after that including Tahir Whitehead.
– Robert Woods had a nice diving TD in the corner of the endzone from Goff…. Didn’t see who was closest in coverage, but the nearest guy was a good 6-10 yards away.
– Rams also had a designed reverse that was well blocked and went for a big gain up the left side against our D. Great practice reps — surprised they showed it!
– Abrams was lined up 1v1 wide on Everett (literally 10 yard away from where we were sitting) with Cooper Kupp lined up in the slot. Raiders playing zone. Abrams with an aggressive jam to re-direct, then peels off, ball is immediately thrown to Kupp, who catches, turns and is immediately HAMMERED by Abrams swarming with another Raider. It would have been a big hit for a regular season game — I thought it might start a brawl but no Rams really reacted.
Overall…. badass experience as a fan. Can’t “effing” wait to see Hard Knocks next week, although the Rams appeared to get the better of us on both sides of the ball, from what I saw (albeit did not see everything!!). That being said, I’m not disheartened at all by what I saw… There’s no doubt this was an invaluable experience for our guys. They got damn good reps and a lot of regular-season-type plays against a well-oiled superbowl contender, stacked with some of the best individual players in the NFL. This was a good measuring stick. They’ve got work to do, but it seems very doable.
znModerator10 Observations from the Rams second joint practice with the Raiders
Myles Simmons
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NAPA, Calif. – In the lead up to the first preseason game of the summer, the Rams and Raiders are having a pair of joint practices. With action on two separate fields, here are 10 notes from the second session, focusing specifically on the Rams’ defense.
1) The Rams and Raiders had competitive one-on-one drills between the offensive and defensive lines. Rookie nose tackle Greg Gaines used a rip move to get underneath Raiders OL Jordan Devey and into the backfield. Trevon Young also had a spin move to get into the backfield around a right tackle.
2) Still on DL vs. OL drills, defensive tackle Aaron Donald and outside linebacker Dante Fowler got past Raiders’ left guard and left tackle Richie Incognito and Kolton Miller, respectively, with a combination stunt.
3) In 11-on-11 drills, Donald and Fowler kept it going defensively with a play that would have been a sack. The pair got penetration on the defense’s right, leaving quarterback Derek Carr nowhere to go.
4) The Rams’ defense was flying around throughout the day, coming up to defend short passes well. Safety John Johnson had one example in 11-on-11, coming up to stop a swing pass at about the line of scrimmage on the defense’s left.
5) Los Angeles has mainly had JoJo Natson on punt returns throughout the summer, but wide receiver Austin Proehl was deep to return a few punts on Thursday. We’ll see how much time each player receives at the spot in the first preseason game on Saturday.
6) In red zone 11-on-11 drills, outside linebacker Clay Matthews batted down a Carr pass on the defense’s right. It was the second play of the segment, and Carr got flushed out of the pocket with the Rams’ pass rush.
7) During the next segment of 11-on-11 work, defensive lineman Morgan Fox batted down a Carr pass behind the line of scrimmage as well. Carr was trying to get a pass off on the run, but Fox chased him down and got his arms up to prevent the QB from finding a throwing lane.
8) Working with the first-team defense, rookie safety Taylor Rapp broke up an intermediate pass in the middle of the field to Raiders rookie wide receiver Hunter Renfroe. Rapp had to run up and get his hand between the receiver and the ball, and did it well.
9) Cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman also had a pass breakup late in practice on the same receiver in Renfroe. Robey-Coleman’s PBU came on what looked like a slant route on the defense’s left. Carr clearly likes Rendroe a lot, as the fifth-round pick seems to be excelling from the slot.
10) Finally, Fowler had a long conversation with Oakland right tackle Trent Brown following the conclusion of practice. Brown, who signed a lucrative four-year contract with the Raiders over the offseason, is well regarded as one of the better offensive tackles in football. He won Super Bowl LIII with the Patriots back in February.
August 8, 2019 at 9:31 pm in reply to: Goff … praise, questions… w/ MUST SEE vid: Peyton Manning on Goff #103777
znModeratorBy Vincent Bonsignore Aug 7, 2019
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Goff not only showed that he had the nerve and arm strength to attempt a throw against such tight coverage, but he also accurately delivered it on time.
“There was a lot of traffic in there,” McVay marveled afterward. “Had to be a perfect throw.”
It was an absolute strike.
OMG I can’t wait
That;s THE signature Goff thing, IMO.
The uncanny perfect throw.
Like the one to Kupp in the endzone against the Vikes that dropped into the receivers arms over 2 defenders. It was so good the announcer when it happened just blurted “Come ON!” As in, get real, this doesn’t happen, unbelievable, are you shittin me. He didn’t say anything else, just “Come ON!”
znModeratorThe Athletic@TheAthleticLA
As part of a training-camp tour, @bylindsayhjones visited the Rams and Chargers. Here are her observations, including the Rams’ thoughts on Todd Gurley
From Irvine, with the Los Angeles Rams
1. Don’t expect to see any of Todd Gurley in the Rams’ four preseason games, and it became clear very quickly into training camp that we won’t see a ton of him during practices, either. The Rams have concocted a detailed plan to limit Gurley’s workload this camp. Generally, that plan includes alternating practice days with rest days, and it started from the first day of camp in Irvine and will continue through joint practice with the Raiders in Napa.
But there appear to be no limitations on Gurley on the days he is in uniform. He is a full participant in 11-on-11 drills, run drills, blitz pickup, and when he’s running, it does not look like the knee injury that sidelined him late last season has slowed him down. Wide receiver Robert Woods said that when the players sought out their max-speed data during the first weekend of camp, it was Gurley who hit 22 mph – the fastest of any of the skill position players.
The Rams consider this decreased workload part of their plan to maximize their investment in Gurley. A year after they signed Gurley to a four-year, $57.5 million contract, general manager Les Snead said he has no regrets about the size or timing of that contract. Gurley remains the NFL’s highest-paid running back, in both annual salary ($14.35 average per year) and total contract. His full deal is worth $5 million more than the contract Le’Veon Bell signed with the Jets in March, though Bell received more guaranteed money at signing ($27 million, to Gurley’s $21.95 million).
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2. It’s been a unique camp for the Rams in that, for the first time in recent years, there is almost no contract drama. The Rams practiced all of training camp without Aaron Donald the past two years, but this year, there are no holdouts, with Donald, Gurley, wide receiver Brandin Cooks and offensive tackle Rob Havenstein all having received new contracts in the past year. Even head coach Sean McVay and Snead are settled, each receiving an extension in July.
The Rams have had contract talks with the agents for quarterback Jared Goff, who is heading into the fourth year of his rookie deal, and cornerback Marcus Peters, who is in the final year of his contract, but no deals appear imminent for either player.
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3. This preseason is critical for the Rams’ coaching staff. After appearing to be one step ahead of most defensive coordinators last year, Sean McVay was outcoached by Bill Belichick in the Super Bowl. The Patriots held the Rams to just a field goal, in part by following a defensive blueprint established in December by Vic Fangio and the Bears. The Rams failed to adjust when the Patriots played primarily zone defense instead of man-to-man, and had few answers to solve the Patriots’ smothering run defense that consistently resulted in difficult third-down passing situations for Goff.
McVay said he would be using training camp, especially the four joint practices against the Chargers and Raiders, to work on making better in-game coaching adjustments.
“You can’t shy away from the things we didn’t do well last year, and some of the situations where I certainly could have put our players in a better spot,” McVay said. “So that’s a huge point of emphasis. If you’re afraid to look at the things that we didn’t do good enough, you’re kind of brushing it under the rug and inevitably it’s going to come back to haunt you.”
znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/08/nfl-rams-raiders-practice-notes-highlights-news/
Once again, Noteboom got the nod at left tackle with Whitworth getting the day off. He’s the starting left guard and backup left tackle, giving him big responsibilities for the upcoming season.
The pass rush was excellent in the second day of practice against Oakland. Dante Fowler Jr., in particular, stood out
Marcus Peters heard an earful from the fans in Napa Valley, and he responded with a gesture and some words of his own.
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J.B. Long@JB_Long
Rookie S @trapp07 with a full-extension pass break up in 7-on-7, tipped right into waiting arms of Micah Kiser for an INT. #LARams
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Noteboom and Allen could get some playing time Saturday. Kiser and Joseph-Day definitely will, as will Bryce Hager==
Which players stood out at joint practice today?@JB_Long + @minakimes break it down from Napa! pic.twitter.com/vYNfnEmUPi
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 8, 2019
znModerator“Our leaders did a great job of getting everyone under control.”
-McVay on the Day 2 skirmish with Raiders pic.twitter.com/ZIpNX3360d— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 8, 2019
znModeratorFrom a Raiders beat writer.
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from It was clear which team is coming off a Super Bowl and which is still trying to be competitive.
Levi Damien
The day the Raiders have been waiting for was here. The Rams were in the house and they were finally going to test themselves against a world class team. One of the storylines of the first part of Raiders’ camp is how great Tyrell Williams and Derek Carr look.
Then they faced the Rams aaaand not so much.
Right from the first snap, Carr went to the well, sending Williams deep and putting the ball in the air for him. And there was Aqib Talib to pick it off.
Talib knows Carr well. Carr has had to face him at least once per season in his five-year career. The first four were as a member of the rival broncos, which means usually he faced him twice. Last year as a member of the Rams. Carr didn’t fool the All Pro and five-time Pro Bowler.
“The first play I jacked the ball up really to set the tone and you hope to come down with it and they make the play,” said Carr. “That kind of stuff is going to happen. It’s not alarming to anyone in the meeting room but there are stuff that we need to correct off the film and need to do better.”
Needless to say, Carr was not able to set the tone early. Talib snatched away that tone like it was a gold chain around Michael Crabtree’s neck.
As it happens, on the final play of scrimmages, Carr and Williams would try again to hook up on a bomb. This time Williams got behind Nickell Roby-Coleman and Carr found him… but he dropped it.
Those two plays bookended a lackluster day for an offense which is still without top target Antonio Brown and number one tight end Darren Waller.
“We got a couple guys that are out, but that’s next guy up,” Carr said. “When that happens we got to have our best guys be our best guys. That gets tough when people are taking them away in practice and things like that. Definitely that will be a recurring theme in every practice.”
For the defense’s part, there were some positive signs. Though not many.
Rams starting quarterback Jared Goff carved them up for the most part.
There were only a handful of passes defensed from the Raiders. One came from Johnathan Abram on a deep shot for tight end Gerald Everett. Another was Gareon Conley who knocked down a deep shot up the right sideline for tight end Tyler Higbee. Defensive backs making plays on tight ends isn’t really a great accomplishment. Even though for the Raiders it might be.
Lamarcus Joyner made a play against his former team. Goff stood in the pocket so long, the play would have been over long before that, so it wouldn’t have counted anyway, but Joyner didn’t give up on it. He stuck with Brandin Cooks the whole way and when Goff tried to connect with his speedy receiver, Joyner knocked it down Then stood and smiled at Cooks as if to say ‘remember me?’
And that was about it for the positives.
Two of the biggest plays of the day for the Rams, the Raiders were so out of position, it was impossible to tell who was supposed to be there. Both resulted in wide open catches and long touchdowns up the left sideline.
Trayvon Mullen gave up a long catch to Michael Thomas, Curtis Riley gave up a touchdown catch at the right pylon to Robert Woods, Karl Joseph gave up a touchdown in the back of the end zone to Gerald Everett — though that was a brilliant throw by Goff —, Gareon Conley gave up a long catch on a slant to Robert Woods, and Nicholas Morrow gave up a long catch and run to tight end Johnny Mundt.
Despite the struggles, Abram thinks they did some good things.
“Pretty much that we can play with anybody,” Abram said of what they showed today. “That’s one thing I’ll say is we can play with anybody. If we can go against one of the best offenses in the league and go out there and compete the way we did, then we can compete with anybody.”
There were plays the Raiders defenders made, but most were with Blake Bortles in at quarterback.
The Raiders secondary is supposed to be much improved this season. Though no one really expects them to be able to go blow for blow with one of the top offenses in the league, you hope they would have made more plays.One more day to make corrections on both sides of the ball and come out of this feeling better about themselves.
znModeratorI personally would temper that with stuff that has a more positive side to it. Like America is also the place that led to Frederick Douglass. I would even teach his Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave. Written by Himself. Douglass of course taught himself to read and write even though it was forbidden and he had no teachers. In the end he became a great advocate of abolitiion and made a living giving lectures in Britain, where he was revered.
What’s also fun in that context is to tell the real story of Rosa Parks, which undermines the popular, widely circulated version.
To me, the way out of a crisis is to highlight the positive too. Because, what is it you’re striving for (as a country) if not to be your best self? That’s a conflict of course between the best and worst self, but to me there has to be an other side of that story for there to be a story.
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August 8, 2019 at 2:11 am in reply to: Goff … praise, questions… w/ MUST SEE vid: Peyton Manning on Goff #103747
znModeratorThe ‘perfect throw’ that showed how much progress Jared Goff has made
Vincent Bonsignore
NAPA, Calif. — On a day when Jared Goff shredded the Oakland Raiders in the first of two joint practices, the Rams quarterback’s very best play wasn’t scripted, programmed or relayed to him. And it wasn’t part of Sean McVay’s deep and creative play call sheet.
In fact, the situation called for Goff to go off script and tap into his footwork, vision and improvisational skills to create a big play when it appeared there was no play available.
That area of Goff’s game has been knocked by critics over his first three seasons. It’s the source of the backhanded compliment often paid to him as a “system quarterback” who is capable of carrying out orders when the pocket is clean and everything is perfectly flowing on schedule. However, the unsaid implication of that label is that Goff is much more compromised the second things go awry and he has to become a playmaker.
It’s not an entirely unfounded complaint; it’s just a bit overplayed. In a league in which quarterbacking under duress is a way of life, Goff has stacked up the necessary numbers and victories to undisputedly solidify his place among the elite quarterbacks in the game.
He will never be Patrick Mahomes when it comes to using athletic ability and one of the great throwing arms in all of football to make Houdini-like plays. But Goff’s precise footwork, feel for a pocket and ability to keep his eyes focused downfield — even on the move — allow him to make things happen when he has to make a play.
Three years into his partnership with McVay, Goff’s command of the offense is fueling the rising confidence in that part of his game. So far in training camp, he is taking more chances. And instead of simply throwing the ball away or taking a sack when under pressure, Goff has been a bit more daring in being a playmaker.
“It just continues to keep growing like I always talk about,” he said. “I can’t specifically say anything in particular, but just me and Sean continue to get on the same page, I think it’s continuing to grow. And then, just my understanding of everything will always continue to grow with Sean as well.”
Which brings us back to the play Goff made in Wednesday’s practice with the Raiders that quickly turned into a highlight reel for the 24-year-old.
Maybe it was the fact that his parents were in attendance. Or perhaps it was the comfort of being home in the Bay Area. Whatever the reason, the former Cal star had his strongest day of training camp.
In a spectacular 11-on-11 red zone period, Goff came up with multiple scoring throws, the best of which was the laser beam that split two Raiders defensive backs for a touchdown pass to tight end Gerald Everett in the back of the end zone. With so much going into the play, not the least of which was the mutual intuition between Goff and Everett, the Rams gave themselves a second or two to celebrate the touchdown.
“No doubt,” Goff said. “Especially an off-schedule play like that where it is just so much chemistry and so much trying to feel each other out. For us to make a play like that — we’ve been making plays for a couple years now but continuing to make more and hopefully do some this year.”
The throw and catch drew ‘oohs’ and ‘ahhs’ throughout the Raiders’ training camp site, but it wasn’t even the best part of the play. The real highlight moment was how Goff manipulated the pocket, after the Oakland defense threw everything off rhythm with a big pass rush, and then used his eyes to guide Everett off his original pattern to cut back across the end zone.
Goff not only showed that he had the nerve and arm strength to attempt a throw against such tight coverage, but he also accurately delivered it on time.
“There was a lot of traffic in there,” McVay marveled afterward. “Had to be a perfect throw.”
It was an absolute strike. But just as importantly, Goff excelled as a playmaker rather than just a tactician. For him to take another bold step forward, he needs to showcase more of that improvisation. And it looks like he’s heading in that direction.
“We talk about it all the time — the ownership that we want and the extension of the coaching staff,” McVay said. “He certainly has demonstrated that where he’s able to really command a lot, where he’s kind of just taking it, running with it. He understands the intent, what we want to get done, and then I think the natural off-schedule plays — those are just a guy being a great playmaker. Certainly, as coaches, you try to stay within the timing and rhythm, but it’s an imperfect game with 22 moving parts on every single snap.
“I think the guys that really separate themselves are the guys that have the ability to create outside the timing and rhythm of sometimes what it’s drawn up to do. I think that’s naturally happened. He’s been a guy that’s always done that. I thought he made a handful of plays last year and if the opportunity presents itself, whether it be creating with your legs, buying time, big eyes down the field.
“That’s a collaborative effort, but certainly, Jared made some big-time plays (on Wednesday). First play of the team period, really when he found Robert (Woods), he got flushed from the pocket on a play-action. There’s a handful that felt like they were great plays by him and guys working off-schedule.”
It provided more proof that Goff continues to move forward.
Said Goff: “Today was a good day.”
znModeratorCooper Kupp’s return gives Rams ‘four-headed monster’ at receiver
Lindsey Thiry
IRVINE, Calif. — Cooper Kupp cut across the training camp field as quarterback Jared Goff threw a pass in his direction.
But the Los Angeles Rams receiver stood no chance of making the catch with Los Angeles Chargers defensive back Rayshawn Jenkins blanketing him during the combined practice.
Jenkins’ contact forced Kupp to the ground.
A brief hush fell over the fans who stretched the field on bleachers, as they waited to see if Kupp would stand up. Seconds later, cheers of “Cooooop” broke out, and Kupp climbed to his feet.
“It honestly felt good,” Kupp said afterward. “First time really getting knocked down to the ground and popped back up.”

Cooper Kupp had 40 catches for 566 yards and six touchdowns in eight games before a knee injury last season. AP Photo/Kelvin KuoIt’s been 8 1/2 months since Kupp tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee, a non-contact injury, in a Week 10 matchup against the Seattle Seahawks and underwent reconstructive knee surgery. Despite apparent strides in his rehabilitation throughout the offseason program, which included workouts on the sideline and participation in limited team drills at jog-through speed, questions remained when training camp opened whether the third-year pro would return to form and be ready to play in a season opener against the Carolina Panthers.
After knocking off some initial rust, but otherwise making it through a week of training camp that included participating in one of two joint practices against the Chargers, those questions no longer linger.
“I felt free to do whatever I wanted to do,” said Kupp, whose knee is not aided by a brace. “And really was kind of excited about that aspect of the day, being able to hit the ground and have to pop back up a few times.”
Kupp’s return is crucial as the Rams attempt to put a disappointing 13-3 loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII behind them. After Kupp’s injury last season, coach Sean McVay’s high-powered offense never appeared to recover, as Robert Woods moved into Kupp’s role and Josh Reynolds was inserted on the outside.
Before his injury, Kupp was on pace to tally 1,000 receiving yards, but instead finished with 40 receptions for 566 yards and six touchdowns.
With Kupp’s return, Woods dubbed the Rams’ receivers a “four-headed monster,” given Kupp’s elusiveness inside, the development of Reynolds, and the return of sixth-year pro Brandin Cooks.
“We have a lot of receivers making key plays,” said Woods, who broke for a 52-yard touchdown reception in combined practice against the Chargers. “Cause Josh has been making plays, but just to get Cooper back in it … four different styles of receivers and four different ways to attack your defense.”
Last season, Woods caught 86 passes for 1,219 yards and six touchdowns and Cooks caught 80 passes for 1,204 yards and five touchdowns. In eight starts, Reynolds finished with 29 receptions for 402 yards and five touchdowns.
This season, the challenge for McVay could be finding ways to get all four involved.
Last season, when the Rams finished second in the NFL in scoring and produced 32.9 points per game, McVay relied almost exclusively on an 11-personnel package, which includes one running back, one tight end and three receivers. He rarely used substitutes, except in injury situations.
However, Reynolds emergence as a starting-caliber receiver provides McVay with options.
“You don’t know, you never know,” said Woods, a seventh-year pro, when asked if the scheme this season would evolve to allow for different personnel groupings. “Whether it’s a rotation or whether it’s an injury. … You never know who it’s going to be, and at this point it doesn’t matter who it’s going to be.”
“We’re just trying to build off what we did last year,” Reynolds said. “I’m trying my best to get in that rotation, but ultimately we’re here to win.”
Kupp’s return undoubtedly will aid in a repeat playoff run, as the Rams seek to win a third consecutive division title and return to the Super Bowl.
On the first day of training camp, Kupp did not hold back. Goff found Kupp over the middle, as Kupp leaped to make a difficult catch. Afterward, Goff asked Kupp, “‘Hey, you’re glad you got that one, huh?”
Kupp responded, “Yeah, it felt good.”
Three days later, when the team practiced for the first time in full pads, Kupp stood out again. During a team scrimmage, which pitted the starting offense against the starting defense, Kupp blew past the defensive backs to catch a deep pass from Goff in stride.
“It sounds crazy,” McVay said afterward, “but he looks more explosive than he was before.”
znModeratorI use computer vision to track pressures (and specifically pressures that disrupt passes, a.k.a. defenders coming within 5 feet of an opposing quarterback in a way that influenced the pass), and Donald is able to enter that 5-foot halo about 0.5 seconds faster than the next-fastest interior defender.

znModeratorfrom 2019 NFL season: … projected stat leaders
Cynthia Frelund
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Sacks: Los Angeles Rams DT Aaron Donald (18). Fun fact: Donald, who paced the NFL last season with 20.5 sacks, would be the first player to lead the NFL in sacks in consecutive seasons since Reggie White in 1987-88. That’s great company, no? I use computer vision to track pressures (and specifically pressures that disrupt passes, a.k.a. defenders coming within 5 feet of an opposing quarterback in a way that influenced the pass), and Donald is able to enter that 5-foot halo about 0.5 seconds faster than the next-fastest interior defender.
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