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    Vikings QBs shine in 34-25 preseason win over Saints

    The Vikings took down the Saints 34-25 on Friday night in New Orleans to come away with their first preseason win of the 2019 season…. Sean Mannion was 7-for-13, throwing for 102 yards and a touchdown.

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    𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
    Rams will wear throwback uniforms Saturday in Hawaii against Dallas. 💙💛

    OT David Edwards played a bunch of snaps in ⁦@RamsNFL ⁩ preseason game #1. Shows promise and with continued improvement and maturity, he’ll be looked as a 5th round steal!

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    Robert@tonic216
    as fans who make $20 an hour and pay for these guys livings, we only wanna see our teams compete and win.. and seeing them handicap that over $ we can’t dream of is hard to understand.

    trey wingo@wingoz
    Quick tip: you DON’T pay for their livings. Not even close. TV revenues and all the other corporate deals pay for everything. Just being real.

    Jason Cole@JasonCole62
    1. Athletes have a very short earning period. Doctors work for 30 to 40 years. Athletes for 7 to 8, maybe.
    2. Actors also make big money. Does anybody complain about that?
    3. You get paid what the market can bear.

    in reply to: Year 3 For Mcvay’s Rams: Lessons From A Loss #103940
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    and i do worry that mcvay burns out with the rams.

    i hope not.

    I think he will. I think there’s some Madden in him that way.

    Though…it will probably take about 10 years.

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    Rams Head Coach Sean McVay – August 11, 2019

    (On his thoughts after reviewing Saturday’s game against the Oakland Raiders)
    “It was really a lot of the same that we said yesterday. I think just overall, when you’re getting these units playing together, just the things that we can control, we expect to be sharper on — improve the communication, some of the pre-snap issues whether it be offense or defense. I think there’s some great learning opportunities for us on special teams as well. Like we said, (S) Taylor Rapp I thought was a really bright spot. I thought (DB) Darious Williams showed up in a lot of ways as well. Those have been some guys that have continued to ascend. Really, Darious, going back to even last year with some of the looks on the scout team, you could really feel what a talented player he is. Now that he’s able to have some continuity in the system, really learn some of the intricacies of what (Cornerbacks) Coach (Aubrey) Pleasant and (Safeties) Coach (Ejiro) Evero are coaching in that room and being able to learn from the vets, I think his play and his confidence have really shown up. And then offensively, there’s a lot of things that we can clean up, but there were some spots where you see some positives. But we expect a lot better overall.”

    (On if there is serious competition for cornerback depth on the roster)
    “I think so. I think it’s a positive problem for us with the depth that we do have. That’s something that we’re going to continue to evaluate. (CB) David Long (Jr.) has done a lot of really good stuff as well. To see those guys make some plays, maximize their opportunities has been something that’s been really encouraging and I think it’s a credit to the coaches in that room and also the veteran leadership that we do have. A guy that’s really had a great camp as well is (CB) Marcus Peters, he’s been locked in, he’s been engaged. (CB) Troy Hill has been a really versatile player for us and I think (CB) Aqib Talib has been outstanding thus far. Those guys have really done a great job setting the tone for that room, and then I think these younger players are continuing to ascend and they’re going to force some difficult decisions here in a couple weeks, which is a good thing.”

    (On the plan for playing OL Joe Noteboom and C Brian Allen moving forward in the preseason)
    “We were confident about them getting enough work in with what they did (in joint practices) against the Raiders and we’re going to continue to monitor that. I feel like, probably, that’s the approach we’ll take with those guys — as long as we continue to get a lot out of competing against one another now over the next couple of weeks, that’s probably the approach that we’ll take. But, if we feel like it’s necessary for them to get some of that preseason work before we really go into Carolina, that’s something that’s kind of an ongoing evaluation. But, given the week that those guys (Noteboom and Allen) had, we felt like that was going to be in the best interest of those two.”

    (On what jumped out at him about Rapp’s play on Saturday)
    “I just think the instincts and the awareness. You could just see how fast he’s playing, his ability to negotiate those traffic situations. I mean, there’s even a situation where a ball gets strung out on a wide-zone play towards our sideline and he gets a guy going low on him and he shows incredible balance to be able to stay up and kind of force the ball back. He’s really done a lot of nice things, but I just think you’re just seeing a guy play with urgency. His instincts are showing up, he’s playing faster, more decisive. When he does that – and then you feel he’s a bigger player than you realize. You put the pads on and when he arrives, he arrives with some power and guys go down immediately. That was one of the things that really stood out on his tape at UW (University of Washington) was what a great tackler he was. I think his ability to understand angles, be able to pick and choose his spots and be able to get guys to the ground is an elite trait that he has and you’re starting to see those things show up.”

    (On P Brock Miller)
    “He did a great job yesterday. Didn’t get him as many opportunities with the field goals or extra points as we would’ve liked, but I thought he hit the ball pretty well. Some of those punts sailed for a while and I was joking saying ‘(P) Johnny (Hekker) who?’ a couple times (laughs). It’s really cool just to see how encouraging Johnny is, what a great leader he is for our special teams unit. But, don’t want to have to use him that many times, don’t want to have to use Brock that many times on some of the punts, but I thought he hit the ball pretty well and did a great job for us.”

    (On if any players will not make the upcoming trip to Hawaii)
    “That’s something that we’re figuring out this week and I’ll have a little more clarity on that. There’s going to be some guys that we would leave back for sure just due to injury, but we’re continuing to evaluate that. Want to make sure we’re handling it in the right way with all parties that are involved. That’s something that I’ll have a little bit better of an answer for you on Tuesday.”

    (On if he likes dealing with a disjointed training camp during preseason)
    “Well, if there is one thing, I would say is. I think our guys do a great job of just seamlessly handling, some different circumstances and situations. If anything, last year is a great representation of that with all the different things that kind of just come up. Guys really just aren’t affected by, you know, whether its traveling or change of schedules, and that’s something that’s necessary to be able to handle in football, and I think our guys have done that. We’re always going to do what we think is in the best interest of our team, and try to make sure that we are putting them in situations to stay as fresh as possible, get the most out of it. But, we also know that sometimes it’s necessary. A lot of these things were designed because we wanted to go to Napa to get that work in. We wanted to be able to go to Costa Mesa and be able to have a camp away, and then you get an opportunity to do some different things with this Hawaii trip. So, we’re going to make the most of these opportunities, and I think our guys If anything, have handled it incredibly well. You Know, they don’t ever really complain about anything. They just kind of go about their business in a professional manner, and that’s what you love about these guys.”

    (On If he’s happy with were both RB Todd Gurley II and DT Aaron Donald are at and how they are progressing)
    “Really happy, yeah. It’s been good. I think (RB) Todd (Gurley II) is feeling really good. I think, again like anything else, whether it be (DT) Aaron (Donald) or Todd they can only speak for themselves. But just from watching them and watching the way that those guys feel right now physically, even just getting a good little practice out here today in a little less than a hour, but we got a lot of work in. You just see there’s some good juice. Guys have a nice bounce in their steps. I think Aaron’s had an outstanding camp. I think the plan that we set out for Todd, I think number one most importantly, he feels really good about it. He’s continuing to really show a lot of the things that make him such an elite player and I think he’s feeling really good. I think it’s been a smart plan that really with Todd, and with our training staff we’ve implemented, and we’re are going to continue to follow that.”

    (On if Pass Game Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach Shane Waldron continue to call plays during the preseason or will he jump back from it)
    “No, I think it’s good for those guys to be able to get that work in. In a lot of instances, we’re a little bit more vanilla on our approach, but it’s more about just the experience of calling some plays, changing some personnel grouping, operating within the shot clock when you’ve got .25 seconds to get it in before that thing cuts out. So, I thought he did a really nice job last night. I think, like anything else, I couldn’t be more fortunate to have had the experiences that I had in a similar setting, and I think it’s important to be able to do that for guys. It still is always a collaborative effort, but I thought (Pass Game Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach) Shane (Waldron) did a good job, and we are going to continue with that approach.”

    (On RB Justin Davis and OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo)
    “Yeah. So RB Justin Davis is dealing with a concussion. He got a concussion in one of the practices against the Raiders, so he’s in the protocol. And ‘Obo’ (OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo) has had some different things, it’s his hamstrings. So, he’s coming back from a soft tissue and we want to be smart about that. Hopefully we will get him back out here. He was out here doing some work with (Director of Rehabilitation/Assistant Athletic Trainer) Byron (Cunningham) and those guys. Hopefully we will see him sooner than later.”

    (On if the approach with RB Darrell Henderson Jr. was to let him get his feet wet and what his role will look like moving forward)
    “That was it. You want to give him some touches, you want to put him in some situations and see how he handles it. I thought there was some good and there were somethings that we have to improve on, and I think he’s a really conscientious player, doesn’t really get fazed by things. But there were some, just little subtle things about the game, Whether it’s when you’re picking up internal pressure, not lining up in a position where the ball ricochets off your leg, you know. Just being consistent when we are in the dot (formation), lining up right behind the center, so those are things. But when you do see the ball in his hands he’s physical. He gets downhill. It seemed like a plays blocked for about four or five (yards) and then it ends up being second-down and three. I thought he did some good things. We expect to continue to get him more touches as these preseason games go on and that’s going to be something that’s important to us to see his development. Hopefully you feel good about whatever his role that he carves out for himself is going into the season.

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    Vincent Bonsignore

    from https://theathletic.com/author/vincent-bonsignore/

    Offensive linemen

    The Rams are set with LT Andrew Whitworth, RT Rob Havenstein, LG Joe Noteboom, C Brian Allen and RG Austin Blythe, but behind them it’s a mix of first- and second-year players with minimal experience. Bobby Evans and David Edwards are a pair of drafted tackle prospects, and both played extensively in the preseason opener while appearing at LT, RT, RG and LG. The plan for both is to spend this year as development players. Jamil Demby, now in his second year, played decently at guard and tackle on Saturday although he struggled with a shotgun snap in a brief appearance at center. He figures to stick on the roster as a versatile backup. Aaron Neary spent last year on the Rams’ practice squad, but his opportunity to win a full-time job was dealt a big blow when he was suspended for the first four games of 2019 for violating the NFL’s substance-abuse policy. His ability to play guard and center should secure a roster spot. Jeremiah Kolone, Brandon Hitner, Vitas Hrynkiewicz, Chandler Brewer and Matt Kaskey still have a chance to impress, but more likely will battle for practice-squad consideration.

    in reply to: CBA talks already ramping up for NFL, NFLPA #103927
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    Jason La Canfora

    from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notes-the-year-of-the-young-qb-guru-head-coach-latest-on-cba-talks-and-an-underrated-kicker-trade/

    The latest on new CBA talks

    The NFL’s ongoing negotiations with the NFLPA will be a constant subplot to this season. I got a chance to take the temperature of some of the players’ reps from various teams about the state of the collective bargaining agreement talks, and came away generally optimistic about the possibility of a deal getting done in 2020 – well ahead of the expiration of the current CBA.

    While some in the media have been pushing the idea of a deal getting done before this season, that frankly never seemed realistic to any of the parties involved in the process that I have talked to, and it’s always been the most artificial of faux deadlines. As I first reported back at the combine in February, the fact that the sides had already laid down so much initial groundwork was already a major step, and the process continues to roll along at a steady clip.

    There will be other obstacles to overcome, but the sense that that there is a deal to get done continues to permeate.

    “It’s just good to see us being open to it, on both sides,” Steelers offensive lineman and NFLPA player rep Ramon Foster told me. “There are a lot of things that need to be changes – they know that and we know that, just on a lot of different levels. Of course always the biggest one is money – the split on revenue, and player safety and the tags. Not only that but things for guys like a JuJu (Smith-Schuster) or Ezekiel Elliott, who have outplayed their contracts, and protection of those guys.

    “And let’s try to work this as a partnership, not like we are at war all the time. But of course when you talk money and numbers that tends to create a war and a hate to use that term, but that’s what it can be like with players versus owners. So we just have to work through that, but we all know that we have a good product out there and just work through it. I know there was a supposed timeline of trying to get it done, but from the PA standpoint there is no way we’re going to rush it, because this has to be right not only for our current players but retired players and the pre-93 guys.”

    Both sides seem in agreement that with gambling money about to flood in and new broadcast deals on the horizon, now is not the time to kill the golden goose.

    “No doubt,” Foster said, “because right now we’re hot, and that’s not always the case. And people talk about the popularity of the NBA and NFL … and sure everybody loves the NBA offseason, but when the NFL comes around America loves what we’re doing. And with that, the TV contracts are just huge and the gambling aspect of sports is going to be huge for everybody. So everybody can benefit from that and as you said there are a lot of dollars behind that, and we recognize that of course. Our owners and CEOs and investors in these teams recognize it too.”

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    i thought he ran in a zone scheme in college?

    Me too.

    So I don’t know what to make of that one report.

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    in reply to: tweets … 8/11 & 8/12 #103920
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    Rams Wire@TheRamsWire
    Hamstring injury pushing Ogbonnia Okoronkwo closer to roster bubble

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    Sean McVay saw some good things from Darrell Henderson, but there are also quite a few things he has to clean up.

    Thus, expect to see a lot more of the rookie this preseason

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    Congrats to Simone Biles!

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    in reply to: Rapp, LB Landis Durham–2 standouts v. Raiders #103895
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    in reply to: OL talk, August #103893
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    Vincent Bonsignore

    https://theathletic.com/1130109/2019/08/11/an-undrafted-rookie-seizes-his-moment-as-depth-players-get-experience-in-rams-preseason-opener/

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    Mixed night for young linemen

    The Rams opted not to play new starting offensive linemen Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom, who have held down the center and left guard positions, respectively, in place of departed veterans John Sullivan and Rodger Saffold.

    That was a clear vote of confidence from the Rams’ coaching staff, which wanted to evaluate Allen and Noteboom over the last two weeks in joint-practice settings against the Chargers and Raiders before making a determination whether the second-year players needed preseason reps. That they watched from the sidelines means they are making the necessary progress.

    “We felt good about the work that they got this week and really talking to them,” McVay said. “Where’s their mindset? Those guys are always going to be players that want to compete but I think they felt like they’re in a good place.”

    That created a long night for the Rams’ very young offensive line backup hopefuls, the majority of whom are rookies or second-year players. In fact, only center/guard Aaron Neary has played NFL snaps among the Rams’ reserve linemen, and that occurred two years ago. Neary, it should be noted, will not be available for the first four games of this season while serving a suspension for violating the NFL’s substance-abuse policy.

    So, barring any moves between now and the start of the regular season, the Rams will have an extremely young and inexperienced offensive line reserve group.

    That means the snaps that group got on Saturday — including rookie tackles Bobby Evans and David Edwards and second-year guard/center/tackle Jamil Demby and guard Jeremiah Kolone — were incredibly valuable.

    That’s because those players are going through a transition to the NFL, and because the Rams’ coaches have to decide how comfortable they are going into a season with so much uncertainty behind their starting offensive line.

    As expected, Rams offensive line coach Aaron Kromer was aggressive in mixing up the unit into the third quarter. Edwards, a fifth-round pick from Wisconsin, got the starting nod at left tackle while Evans, a third-round pick from Oklahoma, got the nod at right tackle, but then they flipped spots in the second quarter.

    Aside from a holding call assessed to Edwards in the first quarter and Evans getting beat on a speed rush by Raiders defensive end Arden Key for a sack, both rookies acquitted themselves fairly well for their first go-around.

    Edwards was projected as a second-round pick in the 2018 draft but opted to return to Wisconsin for his senior year. A lingering shoulder injury last season hampered his play, and his stock fell as a result. He dropped to the fifth round, where the Rams happily secured him. His size, athletic ability and technical aspects are all apparent, and he flashed them often in a productive debut. He needs to get bigger and stronger, but the tools are there to work with and he’ll benefit from the tutelage of Kromer.

    For Edwards, the walk-up to Saturday’s game during joint practices with the Chargers and Raiders proved to be invaluable.

    “I felt like I got my feet wet in terms of playing like game-like situations against the Chargers and Raiders,” he said. “So I felt comfortable coming into tonight.”

    Likewise, Evans appears to have an NFL future and will go into the Kromer lab this year intent on being ready to assume a bigger role down the road. For now, though, he appears a step or two behind Edwards in the development process and it showed in the struggles he had on some pass- and run-block assignments. Evans is a bit short for a tackle at 6-4 and it’s still unclear whether he profiles better at tackle or guard. There is plenty of time to get that figured out, though, including three more preseason games.

    The question the Rams will have to eventually ask is, how comfortable are they going into a season with the two rookies being one snap away from potentially becoming starters?

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    OL in the Oakland game

    1. merlin

    People need to remember these are rookies who are learning what they’re doing in the scheme while matching up with a higher level of competition. And then they’re not just playing one position but multiple, which makes it harder. When you’re a rookie lineman in your first NFL game and when your coach is moving you all over the joint on every series, well, it ain’t gonna be perfect. I’m also not worried about the false starts, as that typically happens more often when a player is trying too hard, thrown into a situation he’s not sure about, or outmatched etc. Raiders had some really good linemen in that game too, btw, like Westbrooks for example who is more than capable of giving a rook a whoopin. Raiders have excellent DL depth.

    So for me I separate the rooks a bit separately from the other depth guys. After rewatching quite a bit of that game I think both rooks did a good job of knowing the scheme (they seemed to consistently know their assignments), and where they struggled were the areas Kromer is going to work them.

    From that perspective starting with Edwards he had a good game. He was thrown in there at LT first series and acquitted himself quite well, didn’t win every snap but he won a lot of them and more importantly looked solid executing scheme (wasn’t confused or lost at all). Edwards was more comfortable on the edge, so I can see why they said he was ahead of Evans thus far. He did some good things in both run and pass and for that reason I think he is going to factor in as primary depth for us this season. At this point it looks to me like Edwards has a chance to be what Boom was last season… First OL off the bench. But I don’t want to get all crazy from one game when there are 3x more for these guys to settle in.

    Of the two drafted rookies Evans will require more time to settle in, and that’s fine it’s not like he’s a top 10 pick who is expected to start. Evans looked better on the run execution. He has decent feet, but needs a lot of work vs speed rushers on the edge with that kick slide. The edge guy would just run around him, so that kick slide of his will be something they work on and for now he’ll probably end up as a primary OG type. He looked pretty solid in run action, didn’t dominate but also didn’t whiff on blocks or get trucked.

    The veteran depth OL are where there is much more concern.

    Demby struggled a bit and it seemed he was uncomfortable on the edge. How that affects his standing on the OL depth chart as far as whether he’s the swing guy, it’s still too early to tell. I think he took a hit last night. And btw I don’t care about the Center mistakes, as he’s not going to be anything other than emergency option there if he makes the roster. The concern with him is his lack of push at OG where he is in competition to be the first guy off the bench.

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    2. Wildflecken

    The offensive line depth is impressive. Edwards looked very, very solid at LOT. Solid enough for me to believe he will make the final 53 assuming Rams carry 8 lineman. Edwards arrival is going to make the battle for the LOT spot when Whitworth does retire very interesting. Think he is ahead of where Noteboom was at this point of season in 18. hmm

    Evans future is not going to be on the left. Struggled with the speed rush when he slid to the left. His future is at ROT or a move inside to OG.

    Demby should be camp MVP with the positions he is learning. Far too valuable of a depth talent to not make the 53 this season. There is still some work to be done with his snaps in shotgun when he moves to Center but that is to be expected with his limited time at the position. We need to see how far Demby does come in his development there, but if there is not significant improvement at C from Demby by preseason contest three, I expect Neary back.

    Center is far too valuable for the Rams not to have a solid plan behind Allen, so despite his suspension there just may be a spot for Neary after he serves his suspension?

    Kolone shined and Rams may carry 2 olineman on PS, including Kolone.

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    The Rams pre-season games will entertain no one. But that does not mean the Rams are not making use of them. They;re using the pre-season to build their depth at some key positions, including OL and LB.

    Just putting things down in black and white, but….. Maintaining the OL with this team means coaching up lower picks, UDFAs, and the occassional slightly more veteran castoff. They need to keep churning up and developing new OL every year–next year they replace probably at least 2 more (I doubt they extend Blythe after this year). Plus they’ve been lucky with OL injuries so far but you can’t count on that (knock on wood).

    Aside from the 5 starters, they could carry anywhere from 5 to 6 more OL, with 2-3 on the practice squad (depending on whether they have 8 or 9 on the regular roster.) So they have to assess and prep whoever that is, and of course there’s virtually no starting experience at all among the 9 candidates.

    4th year: Neary. 2nd year: Demby, Kalone. Rookies: Brewer, Edwards, Evans, Hitner, Hrynkiewicz, Kaskey.

    That’s real work. Put those guys in play, coach them up after tape review, do it again, then see what you have. Probably 4 pre-season games worth of that. It not only tells you what you have, it gives some experience to the ones you keep. More experience means better depth–and by keeping the starters out, the Rams are probably giving these guys more active snaps than most young OL get on most teams.

    It’s still very early but yesterday made it look like they had some interesting rookies at LB.

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    I like to feature repeat camp reporters in “game summaries” for obvious reasons, so here’s one:

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    oldnotdead

    1. In Demby’s defense, he was playing everywhere so there is no way he can get in sync. He played both OG’s, center, and LT. He’s going to make the team simply because of that. He was fine at OG. Also, he’s never played center in his life until this year. He’s an OG who can be an emergency center if needed.
    2. Rapp is the real deal. Just sit him the rest of preseason, he’s already in reg season form.
    3. Edwards displayed how raw he is, with poor footwork.
    4. Long made a rookie mistake but his play improved as the game went on.
    5. Brandon Allen sucks, enough said.
    6. John Wolford will be the #3 QB probably on the PS in Sept.
    7. SJD still can’t get penetration or get off a block. Gaines outplayed him but he’s a work in progress.
    8. JFM looked regressed. He should have played better.
    9. Evans is an OG at this level and it shows. I think he will be fine inside. But at this point, Demby is ahead of him at OG.
    10. Webster and Bachman are clearly better WR’s than Jojo. Webster can return punts as well. Webster should make the team with Bachman on the PS.
    11. Carraway played fast and well. Hager outplayed Kiser IMO. Both Kiser and Hager will make the team and will be interchangeable for the most part. Howard outplayed Young but both are bubble guys, with Carraway flashing at OLB.
    12. I knew the depth at CB was a problem and it showed big time. Deayon and Hatfield are scrubs, with Peterson on the bubble. Kevin played ok in 2017 before his injury, so I’m going to give him a pass on this game. Troy Hill didn’t play but he’s a marginal player.
    13. Natrez Patrick earned himself more reps. He’s strictly an early down ILB type with poor speed, but good size and length for the position. If he can show more in the run stuffing dept he can make this team.
    14. Kolone is earning himself a PS spot. He’s not a standout but he’s not bad either, capable of playing OG and center.
    15. The Ram booth announcers were totally annoying. They kept showing how little they knew the team. Most people posting on this board know more about the Rams. My father was right. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, keep your mouth shut or you just look stupid.

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    Los Angeles Rams UK@LARams_UK
    Just a reminder that the 0-16 Lions went 4-0 in the preseason.

    In case you were going to overreact.

    Players that stood out to me. Including numbers because preseason is hectic

    Stock Up:
    5 Bortles, 9 Wolford, 42 Kelly, 27 Henderson, 11 Hodge, 88 Thomas, 14 Webster, 24 Rapp, 38 Parker, 42 Carraway, 49 Young

    Stock Down: 8 Allen, 73 Edwards, 36 Hatfield, 45 Okoronkwo (OUT)

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    game notes from preseason opener

    Cameron DaSilva

    Rams fall to Raiders 14-3: Instant analysis, game notes from preseason opener

    Play of the game
    Kevin Peterson’s interception in the second quarter was one of the better plays of the night. It was a poor throw and decision by Mike Glennon, but it was a great read by Peterson, who was sitting back in a deep zone.

    He jumped the route and made Glennon pay with the interception.

    Number to know: 12
    The Rams committed far too many penalties on Saturday, getting flagged 12 times. There were five others that the Raiders declined, too. Some were minor infractions like illegal formation, but others were more concerning – penalties such as an invalid fair catch, holding, fair catch interference.

    Game notes
    Blake Bortles didn’t look much better than he did last season. His throwing motion is still unorthodox and long, while his footwork still needs improvement. He made a few nice throws, two of which went to KhaDarel Hodge, but he also overthrew receivers and missed easy targets badly.

    Bobby Evans and David Edwards had some bright spots, as well as a few lowlights. Edwards was called for false starts twice and one holding penalty, while Evans was beat badly by Arden Key for a sack. Jamil Demby was also called for holding twice, though they were both declined.

    The run defense was shaky early on. Oakland made its first touchdown look easy, washing down the defensive front and opening up a big cutback lane for the running back. Micah Kiser and Sebastian Joseph-Day have to be better in spots like that during the regular season.

    Travin Howard, not Bryce Hager, got the start at inside linebacker with Kiser. Howard is listed second on the depth chart, so perhaps the coaching staff is higher on him than some realize. He made four tackles on the night.

    Taylor Rapp had a really nice showing in his first NFL action. He made two tackles and broke up a pass, retreating from a linebacker position down the seam to cause the incompletion. He lined up in a variety of different spots throughout the game.

    The Rams had two interceptions, one by Peterson (see above) and the other by Steven Parker (see below). They were poor throws by Glennon, but also good reads by the defensive backs. David Long Jr. allowed a long completion when he didn’t get his head around to the ball, with the same going for Dont’e Deayon in coverage.

    The ground game could get nothing going against the Raiders. The Rams finished with 57 yards rushing on 22 carries, which is not a good average, of course. Darrell Henderson had a nice 7-yard carry, and John Kelly broke free for 9 yards on one attempt, but those were really the only bright spots.

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    PFF ReFocused, NFL Preseason Week 1: Oakland Raiders 14, Los Angeles Rams 3

    Oakland Raiders 14, Los Angeles Rams 3

    https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-refocused-nfl-preseason-week-1-oakland-raiders-14-los-angeles-rams-3

    1. STRONG PERFORMANCES

    OAKLAND RAIDERS
    Veteran center Jordan Devey was a highlight in limited action for Oakland on Saturday night. He earned some positive marks as a run-blocker and was one of the better Raiders offensive linemen in pass protection.

    Second-year edge defender Arden Key was Oakland’s best pass-rusher on the night. He picked up a sack in the first half and several other positive plays rushing off the edge.

    LOS ANGELES RAMS
    Second-year wide receiver KhaDarel Hodge contributed positively as a pass-catcher and stood out as a run-blocker in the Rams’ bout with Oakland. He led the team in receiving yards with 48 from three receptions.

    Rookie safety Taylor Rapp, a standout at the University of Washington before taking his talents to Los Angeles, had a great pass breakup over the middle the field covering Raiders’ Hunter Renfrow. He also limited mistakes defending the run and beyond his pass breakup in coverage.

    2. POOR PERFORMANCES

    OAKLAND RAIDERS
    Second-year offensive tackle Brandon Parker struggled significantly in pass protection against Los Angeles’ defensive front. He allowed multiple pressures and committed multiple penalties.

    Veteran quarterback Mike Glennon had some solid passes in the contest, but he complimented the good with two terrible throws that resulted in bad interceptions. He’ll need to perform better moving forward to keep Jon Gruden favorite Nathan Peterman from stealing the No. 2 spot behind Derek Carr in Oakland.

    LOS ANGELES RAMS
    Rams’ Brandon Allen, a sixth-round pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, turned in an ugly performance in this one. He was inaccurate with the football and finished the game with just six completions for 34 yards from 12 attempts.

    Another member of the 2016 NFL Draft class, center Aaron Neary didn’t have the worst day in pass protection, but his efforts in the run game were well below average.

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    Five Takeaways from the Rams’ first preseason game against the Raiders

    Myles Simmons

    https://www.therams.com/news/five-takeaways-from-the-rams-first-preseason-game-against-the-raiders

    OAKLAND — Opening the preseason on the road, the Rams fell to the Raiders 14-3 on Saturday evening. But with almost no starters even dressed for the game, the final score isn’t the most important thing. With that in mind, here are five instant takeaways from the exhibition matchup in Oakland.

    1) TAKEAWAYS CREATED

    The Rams always put an emphasis on creating defensive takeaways, and the club was able to do just that twice during the first half on Saturday evening.

    First, cornerback Kevin Peterson picked off a pass from Raiders reserve signal-caller Mike Glennon early on in the second quarter. Peterson stepped in front of an intermediate pass over the middle to make the interception. The last time Peterson played in a regular-season game, he intercepted 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo twice. After tearing his ACL in last year’s preseason opener, Peterson appears to be picking up where he left off in 2017.

    Safety Steven Parker also got involved in the pick party, intercepting a Glennon pass in the red zone to keep the Raiders off the board. Parker spent all of last season on the Rams’ practice squad after signing as an undrafted free agent out of Oklahoma.

    2) BORTLES’ DEBUT

    Quarterback Blake Bortles looked fine in his first appearance as the Rams’ quarterback. Appearing in two series, Bortles completed three passes for 50 yards and each completion went to a wide receiver.

    Wide receiver Mike Thomas caught the first for a 12-yard gain on 3rd-and-8. Then on Los Angeles’ next drive, Bortles completed a pair of passes to KhaDarel Hodge for 23 and 15 yards, respectively.

    Brandon Allen came in to replace Bortles as the Rams’ signal-caller on the following drive and played throughout the rest of the game.

    3) RAPP MAKES AN IMPACT

    Rookie safety Taylor Rapp also made his Rams debut on Saturday, and was all over the field for the defense. The safety displayed one of his key characteristics in versatility, lining up all over in coordinator Wade Phillips’ defense. Rapp’s most notable play came late in the first quarter, when he batted down an intermediate pass to Raiders rookie wide receiver Hunter Renfrow in the middle of the field. With Rapp and safety Marqui Christian, the Rams appear to have solid depth and flexibility at the position.

    4) CARRAWAY SACK

    Outside linebacker Josh Carraway has flashed throughout training camp, and he put it together on the field by getting Los Angeles’ first sack of the preseason early on in the fourth quarter.

    Carraway was close to getting Glennon on the ground earlier in the game, but got to Nathan Peterman on 3rd-and-5 at the Oakland 48 for a six-yard loss.

    The OLB has bounced around a bit to start out his career. Carraway was a Titans seventh-round pick in 2017, and stuck with the club through their roster cuts at the start of the 2018 regular season. He then signed with Washington’s practice squad in late November before L.A. brought him on in early May for the offseason program.

    Carraway has a significant hill to climb to make the Rams’ initial 53-man roster, but getting a sack in a preseason game can’t hurt.

    5) TOO MANY PROCEDURAL PENALTIES

    Over the last couple years under head coach Sean McVay, the Rams have been solid at avoiding pre-snap penalties. But Los Angeles was flagged for an illegal formation on the opening kickoff return, and in the second quarter L.A. got hit with a yellow hankie for an illegal formation on a kickoff.

    In all, the Rams had four illegal formation penalties in the first half between offense and special teams.

    Again, that’s uncharacteristic of the team as a whole under McVay, so it’s fair to expect that will change in the coming weeks — especially when the regular season starts in September. But for now, it’s likely something the Rams will work on.

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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    probably obvious but further evidence of this: Rams HC Sean McVay on the CBS2 pregame show told sideline reporter Jaime Maggio the team treated the joint practices against the Raiders and Chargers as the preseason for the 1s on O/D given their involvement.

    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Brian Allen not out with centers for pregame snaps to QBs. Looks like Allen and Noteboom might be held out. Also Justin Davis in sweats.

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Interested to see if Mike Thomas momentum from a strong camp will carry over to games.

    Looks like Aaron Neary, Jamil Demby and Vitas Hrynkiewicz will be the #Rams centers tonight, which means Brian Allen – and I suspect Joe Noteboom – did enough in joint practices to create comfort they don’t need to play

    Talking to some #Rams people, a lot of eyes are going to be on those young offensive linemen tonight – more the ones vying for backup spots. Rams really need to build some depth on the OL

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    “…in parts of Georgia, sarcasm is still considered witchcraft…”

    How come I’ve never heard of this guy? He’s quite a find.

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    Basically he works in England. He’s virtually an English comic, really. He visits the USA but tends not to get gigs here. His routine is very oriented around being an africa american in england–he draws a lot of material from that, and I suppose that doesn’t travel easily. He started out in theater. He went to the UK as a 27 year old to study at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, got into comedy while there, and took off from there. His stage persona is interesting. He comes off as a kind of solid, everyday guy but then you realize that’s coupled with very sharp and far-ranging intelligence.

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    Guys I will be watching.

    Rapp, though, as Farr said in a “mailbag,” they will not be using him this summer the way they will be in the season.

    Will Fowler play? If not then is there anything to look for with Ebukam or Obo?

    Kiser is a must watch.

    The NTs? Gaines and Joseph-Day.

    NB and Allen if they play.

    Everett? If he plays.

    Brown, Henderson, Kelly. This one is obvious.

    Bortles. They also might have a 3rd guy in Wolford. I hope they have a 3rd guy in Wolford because Bortles is a 1-year, and it would be nice to have a #2 next year who knows the system.

    A big one for me–Thomas. I like Thomas as a WR, I think he is natural depth behind Cooks, and he’s a great special teamer. They say he has been lighting up camp so we’ll see.

    ….

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    Vincent Bonsignore

    from https://theathletic.com/1128585/2019/08/09/rams-veteran-defensive-additions-provide-emotional-intelligence-make-quick-connections-with-teammates/?source=twittered

    Most starters will sit Saturday against the Raiders

    Don’t expect to see any of the Rams’ established starters when they open their preseason schedule against the Raiders on Saturday in Oakland. But that doesn’t mean all the starters will get the night off.

    The Rams will decide some time over the next day or so the plan with new starting offensive linemen Brian Allen and Joe Noteboom, who are taking over at center and left guard, respectively.

    The hope was that Noteboom and Allen would get enough quality work against the Raiders and Chargers during the four joint practices, but with so much riding on their successful transition as starters this year, they still might see some playing time on Saturday.

    “That’s something that we’ve talked about earlier in the week. I’m going to get with (offensive line coach Aaron) Kromer (to decide),” McVay said. “We’re going to assess this tape. We’re going to see what kind of work they’ve gotten in. That’s something that we have not decided on. If they do, it’ll just be a couple series.”

    On the other side of the line of scrimmage, inside linebacker Micah Kiser, who is battling veteran Bryce Hager for the starting job, and Sebastian Joseph-Day, who is on track to start at nose tackle, will get a look in Oakland as they prepare to be starters in their second seasons.

    “Those guys are going to play right now,” McVay said. “They’ll play a couple series. Micah will play a quarter (and) we’ll get Bryce in there as well. Those are the guys that really — you kind of just mentioned — those guys that we’re potentially projecting as starters that haven’t had the experience that a lot of our other players do have. Those guys are going to be conversations. The defensive players you mentioned, we expect those guys to play and then we’re going to talk about (Noteboom) and Brian.”

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