Billy_T wrote:

Okay. I think I’m gonna call it a night, but I’ll try to transfer this to one of WV’s threads tomorrow, if he’s okay with that.

Hope all is well.

I would appreciate that. Here’s the thing though…I would say on this board (ie. the whole board, huddle board) no one owns threads. I know that’s an etiquette some places but here, we are all different drummers. BUT at the same time, it’s better to keep within topics and not proliferate threads about the same topic, if possible. Point #2 (better to have long threads then too many short threads) takes precedence over the idea of “ownership.” So if I start a thread about quantum gravity, and WV takes it over with post after post about how the word “quantum” is stupid, that’s fine.

Billy_T wrote:

zn wrote:

As a rule I think it’s better to keep similar things in threads where the same conversation on the same topic just keeps going. Starting new threads drives other threads off of page one. There’s so much going on now, page one is just crazy with stuff!

Okay. If you want to move it to a better fit, I don’t object.

I started this one cuz I worry that I’m being a bull in a China shop in other people’s threads, and I don’t mean to be. I don’t want my posts to end the discussion, and they seem to be. That might just be a coincidence. But, who knows?

Anyway . . . if you want to shift this somewhere, no problem.

Problem is I can’t move posts. I have to ask people to do it themselves (though it’s easy–all people have to do to move a post is copy it then re-post it in a new place.)

Never, ever, ever worry about being what you called “a bull in a china shop.” Just post! I would not say your posts end discussions, it ain’t like that.

Zooey wrote:

My wife has been running a fever for a day, and had body aches for several days. Going to get tested this morning.There aren’t many cases in our county, and we’ve been really careful, so it seems pretty unlikely…and yet…she got something, somewhere.

I hope everything’s fine. When do you find out?

Stacy Alaimo from Facebook

[me note–S.A. is the author of this:

link https://www.amazon.com/Bodily-Natures-Science-Environment-Material/dp/0253222400/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=stacy+alaimo&qid=1592672828&s=books&sr=1-2

and now to the actual post—>]

I’ve been excited and hopeful about the uprisings and some of the official responses that suggest there is finally (!!!) some long overdue momentum to stop racist police violence. But I am concerned about the backlash brewing (being purposefully vague here because the specifics are triggering). And even though I’m glad so many people are reading and thinking and talking about racism and white privilege I’m worried that this will evaporate into a fuzzy sort of “awareness” (versus legislation and material change!), which various corporate and other entities pin on their products (like the pink ribbon of Susan B Komen foundation that adorns many carcinogenic products). Also, I’ve heard a few radio interviews in which white people claimed to know nothing about racism, cheerfully admitting their ignorance, which troubles me. My immediate reaction is, uh, where have you been living? WTF? But I also think about all the courses I used to teach that were focused on race, in which white students would claim to know nothing about racism, until I asked them whether they had anyone in their family who was racist or whether they had ever been around white people who were racist. As it turns out, sadly, they knew a lot about racists and racism. I’m feeling shaky with hope that things might finally begin to change, but also wary of, say the sudden endorsement of Juneteenth on a bunch of products and services, the fuzzy warm “awareness” that makes white people comfortable in their new (?) consciousness, and the ways “ignorance” can be performed as innocence. This is a mess of thoughts and feelings–that I am sure have been articulated better by someone else.

I just think the DNC used the machinery to rig things. That explains Biden and to me there’s not much point in trying to dig deeper.

To me it’s simple. People have the built in emotional concepts (I know, that’s an oxymoron) to immediately identify with issues of human rights and visible injustice. So yes absolutely this summer’s protests are completely unprecedented.

They have less of that emotional identification when it comes to things like climate change, endless war, universal health insurance, and election machinery. That’s all more abstract and you have to want to see it, and have to actively engage in learning about it. And–most of us get swept up in just the daily routines of living and don’t develop the skills for that. So it’s easier for dominant ideology to fog things over.

Wonder if he knows he’s been watching games with players kneeling … because they haven’t stopped. https://t.co/zdOj899g05

— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) June 19, 2020

So you’re saying Karl Marx would vote for Biden?

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waterfield wrote:

I’m going to assume you are using “progressive” as a noun and not a verb. Because I believe many democrats be they liberal or centrist think progressively in terms of seeking a “forward” out of the present which focuses on going backward in search of Camelot.

And that’s not what leftists and progressives mean when we say someone is or isn’t a leftist or progressive.

If you’re going to respect different views, W, you have to actually have a sense of what they are to the people who hold them.

Justa thot.

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