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Jeez, the guy sounds like he was born to play for the Rams defense.
The description of what he does well reads like a Rams ad for what they want in a third safety.
And he’s faster than both Rapp and JJ.
The Rams secondary is going to be a great unit.
znModeratorSome people teach their dogs to fetch and sit.
Bill Belichick teaches his dog to draft defensive backs from obscure Division II schools in the second round. pic.twitter.com/86mRjElbh3
— Will Brinson (@WillBrinson) April 24, 2020
znModeratorAlec Zamora@alec_zamora
In Kupp, Woods and Van you have three straight up technicians that will make other dudes look silly, add on to that the big bodies of Higz, JRey, GEazy, with Akers and DH in the backfield…Daniel Leu@Leuzer6
Woods, Kupp, and Jefferson…Best route running trio in the league?
Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmer
The NFL has a problem with this draft format: It’s better than the previous drafts. Now, going back to the old style will be an issue.znModeratorznModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
the spot vacated by Will linebacker Dante Fowler was set to be filled by Samson Ebukam or Obo Okoronkwo. Those are two young players with nice potential, but they’ve yet to consistently prove they can hold down a major role. Now, in comes Lewis, who certainly will push them and perhaps claim the job outright as a rookie.When healthy, Lewis is that good.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams GM Les Snead on new RB Cam Akers:“First of all, go back to high school, this kid runs like a warrior. He runs angry, he runs like he wants to punish a defense.”
znModeratorDOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
They drafted Burgess because they needed a rangy free safety to emulate the Vic Fangio style defense. Like Eddie Jackson in CHIznModeratorDOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
Van literally has it all guys. I’m elated. Just watching the film now. More games and he checks every box. He’s actually low key the 50/50 ball guy I talked about, he is a field stretcher (very fast) and he’s a route running technician on top of being a willing blocker.znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams GM Les Snead on selecting RB Cam Akers, WR Van Jefferson, OLB Terrell Lewis and DB Terrell Burgess:“We definitely wanted to address those four positions.”
The first two picks were exactly who they wanted, Snead said.
znModeratorI don't hate the pick anymore…Just look at what Cam Akers can do in the passing game. He and Henderson in addition to Brown are going to be something else…Just please McVay…Use the running backs! pic.twitter.com/IOQEBSFxAx
— JAKE OLIVER ELLENBOGEN (@JKBogenDTR) April 25, 2020
znModeratorDeadpool
Terrell Burgess
From my big board:
112. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.
10th Overall S, tier 3, 19th player available on my Rams Stacked board when picked
From Mock 3.0:
4-126. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a big time motor. Lack of size might be an issue. Rams spoke to him at the Senior Bowl, and he is a great athlete that is a perfect fit as a 3rd safety. Or slot CB (he is a converted CB ) I mentioned this because he reminded me of JJ3 converting from CB to S
Pros:
Fast (4.46)
Smart
Athletic
Bursty
loose hipped
Top flight motor, I love how he competes
converted CB ( i like these guys)Cons:
Lacks size
iffy handsFrom my reply to 43 a week ago:
S – I know people want a safety, and I get why, but it almost has to be Terrell Burgess in the late 3rd to the middle of the 4th round. Everyone else is too early (I just don’t see a S in round 2 or early round 3) and everyone after Burgess is just not very exciting IMO. Plus the rams talked to him at the Senior Bowl, their favorite place to find talent.
znModerator“If there’s a [running back] in this class that has a chance to surprise people, it’s him. That offensive line was hot garbage. I watched a game where twice he was hit 3-4 yards behind the line against a light box … twice in one half! How can he do anything? They did whatever they could to get him the ball in space, but it was just a bad system and bad blocking. When he did get space, he did things with it. He’s a good back and would have been a monster at Georgia behind that line. Teams look at heritage, and he has a chance to be really good.” — AFC area scout
znModeratorGreg Beacham@gregbeacham
Sean McVay says Terrell Lewis is a guy that the Rams really coveted. Les Snead thinks Lewis’ injuries were kinda freak things.McVay says he looked mad on TV when the Rams drafted Terrell Lewis because he was dialing the wrong number for Lewis and couldn’t get through.
znModeratorDeadpool
Terrell Lewis
Big Board:
46. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge
My 5th ranked Edge (2nd ranked 34 Edge) and top of tier 3. My top player available on my Rams stacked board at the time of pick
From Mock 3.0:
2-57. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge, I’m getting a weird vibe about Lewis. I think they are warming up to his upside if he can stay healthy. He could be a beast next to AD.
Pros:
Dip and rip specialist
Explosive first step, no false steps
Ball bearings in ankles allows him to turn tightly and get low
Athletic
Strong
developing multiple pass rush moves
can stand up or hand in dirtCons:
Injury history
lacks experience
not great at stacking against the runFrom college guys thoughts (same as Akers post): Dec 2nd
Edge guys Im dialed in on are Weaver, Gross-Matos and Terrell Lewis. I really like Weaver.
From a Senior bowl post on Dec 27th: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,755554,766919#msg-766919
Edge defenders:
Terrell Lewis – Alabama – probably day 2, long and angular and a speed to power guys with enough flex to win on the edgeFrom Bowl Game preview:
Alabama vs Michigan: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,767005,767005#msg-767005
Terrell Lewis (24) – Edge – Long, flexible and violent. a perfect fit for the Rams in the 2nd.
From positional review: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,768576,768576#msg-768576
Terrell Lewis – a long levered 255 lb edge from Alabama, Flexible and violent, my kind of edge. 2nd round
From Alyos Senior Bowl review:http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,772750,772773#msg-772773
Alyo – Alabama Terrell Lewis LB SEC Got better this year at rushing. Deadpool – He’s on my short list at 52
From my Edge rusher for every round: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,783608,783619#msg-783619
Round 2. – Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs.- He is a bit higher risk due to some injury history. But his upside is huge. Long with long limbs, he can handle his own against the run and get after the QB. He will need some coaching, but he has a full toolbox and a first off the bus body.
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Who know how he develops as a player, but on paper Terrell Burgess makes sense. Third safety who might be able to compete with David Long at the nickel spot.Interesting that safety Terrell Burgess projects as a nickel CB. Very interesting for Rams.
Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Terrell Burgess is a baller and someone who has excellent versatility in the secondary. He can play nickel, deep safety or line up in man coverage on TEs and RBs.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
New Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley values versatility on defense. Safety Terrell Burgess said he’s comfortable playing nickel/slot corner or safety.Jon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft
Terrell Burgess! 30th player on my board. Nickel corner who can play in the slot at a high level already. Deep coverage versatility. Tape is FLAMESznModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Sean McVay got shown on TV looking upset. I’m told he was trying to get the right number to call Terrell Lewis. Things are moving faster than how they appear on TV.znModeratorSo is Sean McVay unhappy with the pick or something else?
Rams picks are collaborative. He has a huge say in how their board is stacked. It is impossible for him to be “unhappy with a pick.” For someone to even suggest it just shows how out of touch they are.
znModeratorDeadpool
57. Van Jefferson:
From my big board:
40. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.
#7 overall WR, Tier 2 or my WRs, 7th best player available on my Rams Stacked board when picked
Pros:
NFL size at 6′-2″ 200 lbs
soft, natural hands, basically catcher mitts
one of the top 3 route runners in the draft
understands the nuances of being WR
Smooth mover in the open field
will fight for the ball
crafty feetCons:
Not explosive
Top end won’t scare defensesAn outside/inside WR with everything you want in a starting WR except for top end, but I loved Kupp and I love this kid.
Dzrams:You mentioned Snead’s emphasis on the Senior Bowl. Who are the Senior Bowl players this year that you suspect the Rams will be very interested in?
WRs Van Jefferson and Denzel Mims had monster practice weeks, and Jefferson is a smart, savvy route runner that can get open, so you know Snead will like him. Mims is unlike anything the Rams have so I bet he would also be on their radar
From my I love Van Jefferson post April 6th: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,783582,783613#msg-783613
The first 3 things I look at when I am scouting WRs is this:
Route Running – because if you cannot run crisp routes, you will not create separation in the NFL and you will not get open.
Hands – If you cannot catch the ball or if you are constantly fighting the ball, I just cannot count on you in big spots. It limits your upside.
speed – Unless you are a detailed route runner, or have great size/length, you need to have some speed or at least be explosive.Everything else is secondary IMO. Athleticism is nice, blocking ability is a bonus. knowing an entire route tree can be taught, strength can be added, run after the catch is nice, but a bonus. Etc.
Van Jefferson is a good, not great athlete, with average speed. But what he does, he does extremely well. He has great hands. Soft and natural, and strong. Never fights the ball, I want him as my partner in an egg toss competition and a picnic. The other thing he does really well is run routes, his dad was an NFL WR and is now a WR coach, so he has been taught how to properly sink his hips in an out of breaks, how to set up his footwork to maintain speed in and out and never rounds any route off.
So he checks 2 of the 3 big boxes off. I’m not worried about lack of production because Florida QBs have been horrible. But I think he is a 2nd round guy with what I would consider a high floor, low ceiling. Due to his lack of open field ability with a lack of HR speed, he’ll never be a WR1, but he will make a heck of a WR2 or WR3 inside from the slot or from the outside. I think he is a less strong Juju Smith-Schuster. LARAM did not like JJSS as much as I did coming out because he just wasn’t fast or super athletic. I loved him because he had good hands and got open. I think Jefferson is in that same boat, minus JJSS’s strength.
From my top WR in every round post: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,784537,784603#msg-784603
Round 3: Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.
He’s #40 on my big board, but I do realize that he probably lasts until maybe from late 2 to mid 3. He is not as explosive as some of the top guys, or as big, but he has outstanding hands, a precise route runner and that makes him about as pro ready as any WR in the class.As a 3rd option behind Kupp and Woods would be perfect for him IMO.
znModeratorDeadpool
52. Cam Akers
From my big board:
57. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.
#5 overall RB, in Tier 2 on the tiered RB list, 15th best player available on my Rams stacked board at time of pick
His offense at FSU was garbage. No QB, no OL, no WRs. It has slowed his development.
Pros:
3 down size
He is fast (4.47).
has incredible jump cutting ability
is very physical.
Excellent contact balance.
natural pass catcher
excellent pass blockerCons:
Does he lack vision or was it his awful line
fumblitis needs to be dealt withFrom Dec 2nd on college thoughts:
As far as the RBs
I think when its all said and done, Swift is a 1st rounder
I think Taylor is going to get knocked for all the carries on his body. A RB only gets so many…IMO its not fair, but someone will get a very good back in round 2.
Etienne is probably my #3 back, I love his skill set, but wonder if he can carry the water between the tackles
Akers is woefully under rated on a poor FSU team.
I saw Benjamin for the 2nd time this year the other night and he looks legit.
JK Dobbins is being under valued right now somehow, but he is a heisman candidate, he will build steam towards the draft and could be the 1st or 2nd back off the board by April.From my Bowl game preview:
Sun Bowl – Arizona State vs. Florida State
Arizona State:
Eno Benjamin (3) RB – a 3rd or 4th round RB that isn’t a HR threat, but decent burst, good feet and excellent balance.
Brandon Aiyuk (2) WR – a 6′-1″ slot receiver that plays with some toughness and is a good route runnerFlorida State:
Marvin Wilson (21) DT – 6′-5″ 315 lb athletic DT. better run defender then pass rusher. round 2.
Cam Akers (3) RB – Day 2 rb that is under rated on a poor FSU team. Nice size/power/athletic profile that equates to a 3 down back.
Dontavious Jackson (5) ILB – 6′-3″ 230 lbs – a playmaker with good size for the NFL. Quick to react, smooth flower to the ball. rock solid tackler. Late day 3 pick.From Ram 49s March 20th mock: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,779705,779795#msg-779795
I’d personally take Akers in the 2nd and Perine in the 4th with zero issues. Just not sure the Rams would.
Me and Alyo on him in Blinkscout RB review:
Alyo – Cam Akers Florida St. 5-10 217 4.47 4.47 — 20 DNP 35.5 10-2 9 30 5/8 So … He literally made a million dollars on the Duce Staley drill. His feet were unreal. My guess is that he’s gone by 52, if he’s there I’m definitely considering it. Deadpool -Agree, he’s my #4 back. He’s not my 1st or 2nd choice, but he’d be a nice consolation prize.
From that same string with a convo with Dzrams – http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,782117,782192#msg-782192
If you have a top 5 back you are most likely taking him in the top 2 rounds. I doubt Akers or Helaire makes it to the Rams pick in the 3rd. And I should have been more clear about what I meant by saying a compliment to Hendo.
Lets use Taylor as an example. You just don’t see his blend of size, speed and vision very often. So I would immediately jump him to the top of the food chain. And I would use him 65-35 or 70-30 split with Hendo, because he is just superior in every way. same for Swift, Helaire, Akers and Dobbins.
The other guys will be around the same skill set as Hendo, so a guy like Perine or Evans or Dillon would be more of a 50-50 split.
From Deadpools Mock 2.0:
pick 60:
2-60. Jordyn Brooks – ILB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – Great size for the position. Athletic, sideline to sideline thumper that was a tackle machine. Rams met with him at the combine.
previous pick: Leki Fotu – NT – Utah – He makes less sense with the Robinson signing.
Who else makes sense:
Any of the top 4 RBs: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, JK Dobbins and Clyde Edwards-Helaire. Maybe Edwards-Helaire is available. Maybe Akers if they feel he is a fit.
znModeratorfrom 2020 Senior Bowl: 10 players whose great week of practice will only improve their NFL Draft stock: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-senior-bowl-10-players-whose-great-week-of-practice-will-only-improve-their-nfl-draft-stock/
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Van Jefferson, WR, Florida
Jefferson is the son of former player and current Jets wide receivers coach Shawn Jefferson — and he plays like it. Maybe the best route runner at the Senior Bowl, Jefferson regularly won against some of the best defensive backs in the country, and by the way, he was one of the fastest players in Mobile, too.
Coming into the week there were questions about why Jefferson didn’t put up better numbers at Florida last season but if you want a crash course on what type a player he is, just watch the LSU game; he had eight catches for 72 yards and two touchdowns, often while lining up across from Derek Stingley Jr., arguably the best cornerback in college football.
Van Jefferson is so fluid and flexible as a route runner. Keeping his pads down, selling each step with his upper body and staying explosive by driving off his in-steps. Clinic tape. pic.twitter.com/iv5D2O1CLK
— Brad Kelly (@BradKelly17) January 24, 2020
Nice separation by Van Jefferson pic.twitter.com/5vghKC4iZR
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 21, 2020
znModeratorfrom 2020 Senior Bowl: 10 players whose great week of practice will only improve their NFL Draft stock: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-senior-bowl-10-players-whose-great-week-of-practice-will-only-improve-their-nfl-draft-stock/
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Terrell Lewis, EDGE, Alabama
The biggest question facing Lewis coming into the 2019 campaign was if he could stay healthy. He missed 2018 with an ACL injury and most of 2017 with an elbow injury. But in 10 games last season he had 11.5 tackles for loss and six sacks, and he showed up in Mobile looking every bit the part of NFL Pass Rusher. He’s 6-foot-5, 258 pounds and some NFL evaluators think he can add even more weight because at this stage of his development he’s a much at getting into the backfield than dropping into coverage.
#SeniorBowl Alabama DE Terrell Lewis with a very nice rep against St. Johns LT Ben Bartch. Bartch typically plays on the left side, lines up at RT here which is an extremely difficult transition: pic.twitter.com/mUEFl8eJaT
— Demetrius Harvey (@Demetrius82) January 22, 2020
znModeratorHad things played out differently in his career — and the injuries played a major role in this — Lewis could have been a first-round talent. His frame, including a wingspan of 83 3/8 inches, lends itself to being a pass rusher and pass disrupter. Even when he can’t get to the quarterback, Lewis can affect passes and pass lanes.
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Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora
Terrell Lewis one of the most intriguing players in this draft for me. his metrics compare to Von Miller. Freak athlete. Could develop into serious edge rusher==
Ram49
According to Prisco, the Rams love Jachai Polite and he busted with the Jets due to a sleeping issue……apparently he wasn’t sleeping….like at all.Said Lewis is a fantastic pick and look out for Polite
znModeratorTERRELL LEWIS | Alabama 6052 | 262 lbs.
A four-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Lewis was the No. 1 player from the D.C. area and was considered a top-10 recruit at his position in the country. He originally pledged to Ohio State following his junior season, but decommitted a few months later and started taking more visits. After considering offers from Florida, Penn State and nearby Maryland, Lewis was drawn to the winning tradition at Alabama on signing day. He graduated with his bachelor’s degree (December 2019). Lewis elected to skip his final season and enter the 2020 NFL Draft, skipping the team’s bowl game. He accepted his invitation to the 2020 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Toned, moldable frame with V-shaped back and room to get stronger…naturally explosive, firing off the snap with springs in his lower body…creates leverage with his initial quickness and length, delivering pop at contact…nimble lateral movements to sidestep blocks and threaten multiple gaps…skilled on loops and stunts…excellent pursuit and closing speed, eating up grass with long, light strides…fluid hip action to bend or introduce a spin move…quickly comes to balance, sink his weight and redirect in space…experienced standing up and dropping…doesn’t lack for confidence and has been praised by the Alabama training staff for his attitude working back from several injuries.
WEAKNESSES: Lean-muscled body type and must get stronger, especially in his lower body…eager hands and long arms, but timing and purpose of his attack lack refinement…flashes a base understanding of various moves, but struggles with the set up and execution…explosive in a straight line and can bend, but must do a better job with his cornering athleticism to soften the edge…unbalanced base strength after extending into blockers…struggles to calm his feet and finish tackles in space…suspended the first half of the 2019 season opener after he missed a team function…only four career starts with below average career production (played 55.7% of snaps in 2019)…durability is a red flag, missing most of two seasons due to a right elbow injury (September 2017) and torn ACL in his right knee (July 2018); also missed one game (September 2019) after hyperextending his surgically repaired right knee, requiring a minor procedure.
SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Alabama, Lewis played Sam outside linebacker in head coach Nick Saban’s 3-4 base scheme, rushing from both a two- and three-point stance. He missed almost all of the 2017 and 2018 seasons due to injuries, but stayed on the field in 2019 and reminded everyone of his freakish tools. Different than most Alabama pass rushers under Saban, Lewis has the long frame and sudden athleticism to disrupt the pocket. However, his play motor is better than his instincts and he must introduce more variety and shed strength into his rush plan. Overall, Lewis is still unrefined with his setup and feel as an upfield player, but he is long, rangy and explosive with similar upside as Danielle Hunter when he entered the league, projecting as an impact NFL pass rusher if he reaches his potential and stays healthy.
znModerator.@RamsNFL @GatorsFB @VanJefferson12 is a precise and talented route runner and joins other great runners like @CooperKupp and @robertwoods Offense could get back to elite status again. #Rams #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/eXRpaZc3v4
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) April 25, 2020
znModeratorKHS@KaraHenderson
Sean was RAVING about Akers on a call to Les 2 weeks ago. Broke down a play in classic Sean style— just told Akers on a call how much he can’t wait to run it.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Van Jefferson was a big favorite of @Rams coach Sean McVay, as was Cam Akers. Offensive head coach, getting guys he knows fits his schemeznModeratorHey #Rams fans, Van Jefferson (@VanJefferson12) can become a big-time pass catcher for you. Get familiar with him via my @TheDraftWire interview with him.https://t.co/IxJkmByS0P#NFLDraft2020
— Justin M (@JustinM_NFL) April 25, 2020
znModeratorTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
What did the LA Rams get with their pick of running back Cam Akers? A tackle-breaking machine.Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
The Rams needed a running back, folks.Darrell Henderson wasn’t drafted to be a lead back, so I really don’t understand the presumption that he would suddenly become one.
I’m surprised the Rams didn’t go defense there, but they needed a RB.
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Van Jefferson did not run at the combine and had foot surgery last month, but it doesn’t sound like it’s a long-term concern at all.znModeratorJim Nagy@JimNagy_SB
Florida WR @VanJefferson12 couldn’t run the 40 at Combine (foot injury) but @ZebraTechnology had him as fastest player at the @seniorbowl with max speed of 21.05 mph, which is faster than Devin Duvernay (20.90/4.39), Denzel Mims (20.26/4.38), and Antonio Gibson (20.15/4.39). 🔥🔥znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
“Every round we pick in there will probably be a wide receiver (available) that would be a benefit to the
@RamsNFL.”
-Les Snead 3/4/20In anticipation of 4 picks today, I asked Les Snead if he felt he’d be as nimble in a remote draft as he typically is (moving up/down the board):
“It probably will not be as smooth or efficient, but I do think it will not hinder us (by) putting a governor on our…DNA.” #LARams
Scott Barrett@ScottBarrettDFB
Stupid idiot coaches who took a running back in late Round 1 and don’t know as much about football as me:– Andy Reid
– Bill Belichick
– Pete Carroll
– Sean Payton -
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