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znModeratorWhat will it take to dethrone the Chiefs? @ConorOrr doesn't think we're going to see it this year: https://t.co/ncfmSJcMH7
— The MMQB (@theMMQB) December 14, 2020
znModeratorDo you do that with the 24th ranked qb? Or, as I said, is he more likely to play like the 10th ranked qb, which is what he did in the other 10 games not the 3 bad ones?
i think he is somewhere in between. closer to 10.
I really do think he’s more like 10.
znModeratorIts not quite as fun seeing the Patriots falter since Brady isnt there
to sink with them.Still, it is good.
It cant all be the loss of Brady though, right? Their WR’s look awful. Tight Ends look invisible. Cam looks slow and confused. Defense couldnt stop the Run against the Rams.
What happened?
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vIMO? Every flaw you list was true last year too.
I am in the “Brady and Bellichick were better with each other” camp.
But I have to say. Even looking weak in a game where they were outmatched and getting beat the living hell up, they still looked well-coached.
znModeratorIs Goff “really” the 24th ranked qb? IMO that ranking is weighted by the 3 bad games.
If you believe he’s going to have another bad game like those 3, then, the avg. qb rating WITH those 3 games will sound accurate to you.
If you DON’T believe he’s going to have another bad game like those 3 then, you believe he is more likely to play like his average in the other 10 games–which is a qb rating of 100.65, which would rank 10th.
I personally believe that both Goff and McVay have learned enough from the 3 bad games so that no, we will not see another one.
Meanwhile this season the Rams played 6 defenses that are ranked top 12 in offensive points allowed (Miami, New England, Washington, Giants, Chicago, Tampa) and they went 5-1 in those games.
Do you do that with the 24th ranked qb? Or, as I said, is he more likely to play like the 10th ranked qb, which is what he did in the other 10 games not the 3 bad ones?
It all depends on whether you believe the 3 bad games are indicative or are a bad patch they got over and won’t repeat.
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znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Bills now 10-3, a two-game lead in the AFC East with three games to go. The last time the Bills won the AFC East was 1995, when Josh Allen wasn’t even born yet.Jeff Howe@jeffphowe
This is the first time in 20 years an AFC East team will finish with more wins than the Patriots.Twenty. Years.
znModeratorSo why the hell cant the Rams beat Shannahan?
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vSame reason Seattle and Arizona can’t beat the Rams?
Rams just match up with them well.
znModeratorMolly Knight@molly_knight
Saints lose. The Rams are now one game behind Green Bay and New Orleans for the #1 seed. The Saints play the Chiefs next week. Green Bay plays Carolina. Rams get the Jets.
znModeratorEagles hold on for win in Jalen Hurts' first start https://t.co/QtL0aiqN7K
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) December 14, 2020
znModeratorThe @WashingtonNFL defense scores their second of the game. 💪
(Via: @NFL) pic.twitter.com/N7PqO4Jcxx
— Sunday Night Football (@SNFonNBC) December 13, 2020
znModeratorChase Young locking up that DROY
— PFF (@PFF) December 13, 2020
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothers
Eagles up 17-0 over the Saints. As we alluded to on the most recent podcast, the #1 seed in the NFC is still VERY much up for grabs.
znModeratorKenny Moore with the sticky hands😱
— PFF (@PFF) December 13, 2020
znModeratorJALEN HURTS UNDER PRESSURE
ON 4TH DOWN🎯
— PFF (@PFF) December 13, 2020
znModeratorWhy did PFF all of the sudden forget what @jalenramsey did to @dkm14? Feel like we see this tweet every week. It’s legal, and we’ve seen it work. https://t.co/7yToNYbFqc
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) December 13, 2020
znModeratorIt's the @Lions who strike first. #OnePride
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— Sunday Night Football (@SNFonNBC) December 13, 2020
znModeratorDan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
More impressed with the @MiamiDolphins today than I am @Chiefs. I’m always impressed with KC. I know they’re great. They’re head an shoulders above anyone else. But Mia was impressive and it was led by their young QB. They’re the really good team I thought they wereFrank Schwab@YahooSchwab
Pretty funny that the Lions open up the offense – which they should have done all season instead of slowing things down for Adrian Peterson – the moment Matt Patricia gets fired. What an all-time bad hire that was.
znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/13/rams-12-personnel-sean-mcvay-offense/
In the last two weeks, the Rams have actually used 12 personnel more than any other package. According to Next Gen Stats, the Rams have had one running back, two tight ends and two receivers on the field 59% of the time, which ranks highest in the NFL.
“I think it’s added another layer to our offense that’s important,” McVay said last week. “That was something that we wanted to be intentional about this offseason. I think Coach (Aaron) Kromer, our coaches and then it all goes back to the players’ execution. It’s big because when you play against some of these bigger defenses, where they’ve got some heavy edges, being able to have seven true bodies committed to the blocking surface gives you a little bit more versatility in what you can activate in the run game, as opposed to when you’re just in your three-receiver sets. For us, we want to make sure that we’re able to be as multiple as we can, kind of try to continue to try to apply pressure to the defense based on what they’re giving us. The last two weeks has definitely been reflective of that and really a lot of credit to the players.”
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
The Rams say they have placed OLB Jachai Polite on the reserve/COVID list. Polite was waived but then re-signed last week to the practice squad.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Don’t look now but @RamsNFL @ABlythe63 is the sixth-ranked center in the @NFL per @PFF. Rams offensive line began getting turned around last year when he moved from guard to his natural position of center.How to rebuild an offensive line: Austin Corbett, who the @Rams stole from the @Browns for a 5th round pick last October, is @PFF 12th ranked guard. David Edwards, who the Rams picked in the 5th round in 2019, is the 19th ranked guard.
You can’t always throw big money and high draft picks at problems. Drafting and developing and finding value where others can’t see it (Blythe, who the Colts cut and Corbett, who the Browns gave up on) is as important as the “big” moves.
.@RamsNFL offensive line coach Aaron Kromer was front and center in the identification/development of all three players. One of the best in the @NFL
znModeratorI just sort of feel like if any of your ideas had merit, they would be re-tweeted by John Cleese. But I’ve never seen that happen with you, so….
Touche.
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December 12, 2020 at 3:23 pm in reply to: where they stand 3 games to go (starting w/ Eisen singing their praises) #125575
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znModeratorNFL Week 14 PFF ReFocused: Los Angeles Rams 24, New England Patriots 3
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2020-week-14-pff-refocused-los-angeles-rams-24-new-england-patriots-3
The Los Angeles Rams were finally able to enact their revenge on the New England Patriots, who held them to just 3 points in Super Bowl LIII. Aaron Donald and Co. gave the Cam Newton-led Patriots a taste of their own medicine, defeating them 24-3.
Jared Goff and the passing game did not have their best night, but it didn’t matter as rookie running back Cam Akers carried the offense to its division-leading ninth victory of the season.
STORY OF THE GAME
Although many players have come and gone for both sides since their Super Bowl bout two years ago, Sean McVay and the Rams were seeking retribution for their poor outing in the last matchup. Still, it was not the offense that led the team to the win, outside of Akers’ heroics.
It was the defense holding the Patriots to a single field goal on four red zone drives, manufacturing pressure on over 60% of dropbacks, and Kenny Young returning an interception 79 yards for six points.
Donald excelled in his usual fashion, this time generating five QB pressures — just two less than the entire Patriots defense. The Rams’ defensive line forced six QB sacks — their second-most in a game this season — all of which came in the second half. Jalen Ramsey and Troy Hill were the stars of the secondary, combining for nine targets and allowing five to be caught for 26 yards, none of which gained a first down.
The Newton experiment is wearing out in New England, as he has now thrown for five touchdowns against 10 interceptions on the season. His rushing ability is undeniable, but with a lack of receiving prowess on the outside and Newton’s shortage of elite accuracy, the Patriots offense has been uninspired, to say the least. Bill Belichick seems to agree, as he pulled Newton in favor of second-year QB Jarrett Stidham in the fourth quarter.
There is not much to write home about for the Rams offense. No receiver had more than 40 yards and Goff completed just 16 of 25 passes for 137 yards with a touchdown and an interception.
There really is only one player to recognize, and that is Akers. The rookie took his 29 carries for 171 yards, not only the most by a Rams running back this season, but the most by a rookie RB. McVay has often gone with the hot hand in 2020, but no back on the roster has received more than 21 carries in a game this season. This performance showcased just how much he believes in Akers heading into the playoffs.
ROOKIE WATCH
Outside of Akers, only safety Jordan Fuller saw more than 20 snaps for the Rams. The sixth-round rookie did not make much noise in the secondary, allowing both his targets to be caught for 20 yards and a first down. He did, however, net two tackles in the running game with one resulting in a defensive stop.
On the other side of the field, tackle Michael Onwenu, tight ends Dalton Keene and Devin Asiasi, safety Kyle Dugger and linebacker Anfernee Jennings saw significant playing time tonight. Onwenu struggled in pass protection, allowing three QB pressures — including a sack — and was beaten on a couple more occasions on 32 pass-blocking snaps. Despite seeing plenty of playing time between the two, Keene and Asiasi combined for just one target and no receptions.
Dugger did not need to do much in coverage, as he saw just one pass come his way, which wound up incomplete. But he was a force against the run, netting three total tackles, two defensive stops and one tackle for loss or no gain. Jennings was unable to make much of an impact in his time on the field, recording no significant stats.
znModeratorNFL Stats@NFL_Stats
Teams allowing lowest passer rating this season…Steelers – 70.7
Rams – 75.2
Dolphins – 76.7
Colts – 82.3
Saints – 83.3
Chiefs – 83.5
Washington – 85.1
Patriots – 85.6
Ravens – 87.4
Broncos – 87.5
znModerator69RamFan
My Recap After the Patsies Game…
First off, let’s give big props to our OL/two TE set.
They out muscled the Pats DL…
They played outstanding the whole game, except for a few false starts on Everett at the end.
But I’m not going to let him go unnoticed; Everett was blocking his ass off.
Lined up in the backfield as a FB to lead the way through the holes to block into the second level and Akers did the rest….
Now to our Skill players, no, I’m not going to start with our RBs,,,, I’m going to go to are WRs,,, they were also blocking their asses off…
Now to our RBs… It was a group effort, but it was Akers night,,, he ran for 171yds to include the rest of our RB for a total of 186yds
As for Goff, I thought he played a decent game. Some nice passes to his receivers. His stats were 16/25 for 64% comp 137yds 1TD and 1 run TD 1 INT 74.9 QB passer rating.
His final number should have been better in yardage, comp percentages and QB passer rating, if not for the three drop passes by his receivers and the Refs made a bad call on that INT,,, the film shows that Woods caught the ball and he was down by contact and then the DB took the ball away…
But the Los Angels up above saw the Refs made a mistake, so they rewarded us with a pick six… 😀 😀 😀
Talking about the pick six, it was a great play by both AD and Young….. AD held the RB from getting into the position for a screen in which Young intercept the pass for a pick six.
The whole defense was playing excellent. With Six sacks and 7 TFL and 10 QB Hits
The whole team played unselfish…
ST played ok, and I think we found a Kicker for good even though he kicked one OB during the KO.
Now to Coach McVay,,,
He called an outstanding game, he out smarted Bellicheat
The game against AZ, he used a heavy dose of the 12PG but was using Goff in the passing game out of that scheme/formations.
But against the Pats, he use a very heavy dose of 12PG but using as a run game…
He use the 12PG on 43 plays compared to 18 play with the 11PG…
He has never done that before during his time with the RAMs…
What I liked about this team, they seemed to play unselfish, they cheer for each other success.
Its not just the main players that are getting success, it seems like every week, its someone new that makes a big play or is playing outstanding…
This season, I never got a chance to watch and evaluate the team in camp because of covid.
Before the season started, I had my prediction as the RAMs coming in at 10-6.
Then after the first game against the Cowgirls I raised it up to 12 – 4 record…Well they need to win the next three for my prediction to come true.
This was a great win, and next victim coming to town are the Jets…
znModeratorprobably very slight differences in how much goff gets bothered by pressure.
I’m just wondering how much of that is situational.
Because the idea some have (or that I’ve seen some say) that he is always bothered by pressure, just does not hold up.
I mean we know he’s not GREAT but he is not always bothered by pressure. And you’re right, once we both say that much, then it’s probably micro-differences on the degree to which he is or is not bothered by it.
In fact this year he improved against the blitz–it is getting to the point where you don’t want to blitz the Rams offense.
znModeratoraeneas1
reeder – both young and reader had great games, the first clip in this series shows both guys hustling to the flat on newton’s first pass of the game to make the tackle:
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Tonight’s victory clinched the Rams’ fourth-straight season with a winning record under Sean McVay.goff too.
who’s the last head coach to do that for the rams?
who’s the last quarterback?
Rams had 4 winning seasons in a row from 83-86. Coach, Robinson; qbs, Ferragamo, Kemp, Brock, and Everett.
So it’s since 86 or 34 years ago.
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znModeratorDeadpool
I liked the Akers pick. He had nothing at Free Shoes U. No OL, no Qb, no anything. It was him gameplanned against week in and week out, he didn’t quit, complain or half-ass it. He flat out worked and dominated. He would have been a 1st rounder for Alabama or OSU or Oklahoma. (That’s a fact if facts were things I couldn’t prove to be facts.)
Akers has bellcow size and elite wiggle with HR speed. Not many RBs can claim they have all 3…And he has vision and patience.
And he can thread the needle. He had to at FSU otherwise he was going nowhere. It’s impressive for a thicker back like Akers to get small.
znModeratorBruceB@pboss100
With Reeder playing so well lately, will Kiser get his job back when he comes back from injury? PFF Rating: Reeder- 69 Kiser- 39==
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Troy Reeder
Honestly, the last 2 games, it looks like the light has come on, full strength. He has decent athleticism.. but looked slow a lot because he was lost, imo. Now? Seems he knows what/where he’s supposed to be.. .and is getting it done, often in violent fashion. He’s made more impact in the last two games than I can remember Kiser making… and I’m probably a Kiser apologist. Reeder’s PFF grade, fwiw, is much, much better than Kiser. I don’t know if it’s just a matchup thing with the last two teams they took on… or if it’s more than that. But.. wow… good job
I did not think Reeder had this high a level of NFL performance in him.
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Troy Reeder had a 80.4 PFF grade. His career high. This guy is improving from game to game and deserves more credit. Keep on fighting @troyreeder9 💪🔥🤜 https://t.co/lBu401U84f— Henry Bear (@HenryBearT) December 11, 2020
znModeratoraeneas1
goff currently ranks 2nd in the league in 3rd down pass attempts completed for a first down (46.6%), second only to mahomes, ahead of rodgers at #3.
znModeratorNewton’s performance, Harry trending upward, rare O-line struggles across the board, off night for Simon and Winovich, Gilmore’s latest shutout, Bryant’s big play, Uche surging annnnnnnnnd MORE here in the breakdown https://t.co/68nntDjCcl
— Jeff Howe (@jeffphowe) December 12, 2020
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