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    in reply to: Who will be our field goal kicker on Sunday? #146426
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    New Rams kicker Lucas Havrisik has a connection to assistant special teams coach Jeremy Springer from time at U of A. He also spent training camp in Indianapolis with former Rams kicker Matt Gay.
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    in reply to: Rams tweets etc. …. 10/23 – 10/28 #146409
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    In quarters 1-3, the Rams defense allowed a success rate of 36.4%. In the fourth quarter, that rose to 71.4% Offense had a 44.4% success rate in quarters 1-3. In the fourth quarter, that dropped to 22.2%. Fourth quarter collapse from both sides.
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Tough loss to swallow. But, in a “re-tooling” year, the rollercoaster was fully expected. Just a matter of avoiding the headache it can cause. 3 missed kicks, a bad play-call coming out of the half and poorly timed penalties
 and still an opp to win
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    Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
    Romans 8:18 “I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” Keep pressing.
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    Defense truly needs to get bigger and stronger at the nose and DT opposite Donald.

    Turner was playing nose a large percentage of the time. He was replacing Brown III, who’s on IR.

    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/10/rams-bobby-brown-injury-defensive-line-depth/

    At 324 pounds, Bobby Brown III was the only defensive lineman over 300 pounds to start the season and in Sunday’s loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, their starting nose tackle went down with a knee injury. Brown is expected to miss 5-7 weeks with an MCL sprain, leaving the Rams without their space-eating defensive lineman.

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    Rodrigue: Rams can’t stop kicking themselves into their own way

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4987694/2023/10/22/rams-steelers-sean-mcvay-brett-maher/?source=emp_shared_article

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. — The things this team does to itself, man.

    Los Angeles Rams kicker Brett Maher left seven points on the board because of two missed field goals and a missed extra point. Coach Sean McVay couldn’t challenge a questionable spot on the field after a fourth down just ahead of the two-minute warning because he was out of timeouts. A defense that had played really well in the first three quarters had discipline and alignment breakdowns in the final frame. A quarterback playing some of the overall best football in the league right now threw a costly interception on the first scrimmage play in the third quarter that turned into seven points and also didn’t complete a single pass in the fourth quarter 


    
 and the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Rams 24-17. Or, seven points.

    “There were a lot of things that we didn’t do to be able to finish this game,” McVay said. “Execution on teams, whether it be some execution offensively where you set yourself behind the sticks. Defensively, you can’t have 12 men on the field (and) you’ve got to be aligned in the right spots in some critical third downs. They were able to finish the game, we weren’t.”

    Here’s McVay on Maher, specifically: “We’ll look at it, and we’ll see. He’s got to be better. That’s seven points that were missed out on, that were key and critical for the momentum of the game (and) the type of game that it was. Those were tough ones, today.”

    A crestfallen Maher added postgame that he isn’t injured or dealing with anything that could have explained the errors, he just couldn’t find “it” on Sunday.

    It wasn’t just that Maher missed the field goals, a 53-yard try in the first quarter and a 51-yard try in the third quarter. It’s also that the Steelers then got the ball back on shorter fields. Of the six playable possessions bookended by those misses, the Steelers scored a field goal and a touchdown on each of the shorter fields (starting from their 43-yard line and their 41-yard line, respectively). Three resulted in punts.

    The other scoring possession within those bookends was off of Matthew Stafford’s third-quarter interception.

    Here’s McVay on the interception, in which Steelers star outside linebacker T.J. Watt jumped Stafford’s throw: “(That) was just a killer. It was a really poor decision, I put our guys in a tough spot right there and that one is gonna eat at me. 
 Bottom line is, we had hitches on the outside and a little option route from the three-spot, seams at the two-spot. Thought, we obviously thought it was going to be a single-high (safety). (Steelers cornerback) Levi Wallace rolled up as a cloud. Got Cooper (Kupp) working an option on the mike (linebacker) and you don’t feel that overlap from the hook player when Watt ended up dropping out of there. That’s what led to the turnover.”

    Stafford said he “obviously” didn’t see Watt.

    “They had a nice coverage call for what we had going,” he said, “that being said, I gotta be smart with the ball.”

    In about as sudden-change scenario as possible, and defending from their own 7-yard line, the Rams gave up a touchdown and the Steelers led 10-9. But it was still early in the third quarter! The Rams even answered Pittsburgh’s own touchdown drive with one of their own, plus a two-point conversion.

    But in the fourth quarter, the Los Angeles defense fell apart while the offense was shut out, rushing for just 20 net yards while Stafford didn’t complete a single pass of his four attempts 
 and the Rams ran only eight total plays.

    “We always talk about, ‘We’ve got to do our stuff better than they do their stuff, for longer,’” said outside linebacker Michael Hoecht, who had two sacks, two tackles for loss and a forced fumble. “It didn’t shake out that way. 
 Over the course of a game, you can probably point to 10, 15 different things that need to shake your way in order to win (and) you need to win those 10 or 15.”

    The Rams’ defense allowed 14 fourth-quarter points after holding Pittsburgh to just 10 through the initial three quarters. There was also a glaring error halfway through the fourth quarter when a substitution miscommunication involving the secondary led to a 5-yard penalty only added to other alignment issues and missed tackles and assignments. The Steelers scored two plays after the penalty.

    “We got to do a better job of communicating the personnel changes,” McVay said. “You can’t give them five yards when they are in those scoring positions.”

    Suddenly it was the Steelers who were moving the ball, up 24-17 despite the Rams outgaining them 341 yards of offense to 257 through that go-ahead touchdown.

    The Rams didn’t — couldn’t — answer after that. It was the Steelers who had the chance to put the game away, and did.

    Here’s McVay, on what could have been a very reasonable challenge, after game officials placed and then measured the ball after a fourth-and-1 Kenny Pickett sneak the Rams believed they had stopped short: “It doesn’t matter what I think. That was the spot they made. 
 I’m not gonna sit here and make any excuses about stuff that didn’t go down. Those plays shouldn’t have come down to that, if we executed like we were capable of. You guys saw the same stuff that I did. It doesn’t do any good. That’s what was called, and that’s what we have to be able to live with.”

    Still, if McVay had a timeout left he could have challenged the official’s spot as the Steelers ran the play with 2:24 left on the clock. If it had occurred within the two-minute warning, it would have automatically been reviewed. So while McVay won’t dwell on one play’s impact on the overall game, there’s a real alternate scenario in which Stafford and the Rams’ offense got the ball back on about their 39-yard line, with two minutes to play. They weren’t moving the ball in the fourth quarter, no. But Stafford is also historically a pretty reliable operator in exactly those potential game-winning scenarios in crunch time.

    “To not have an opportunity to have that be clarified, it sucks,” said veteran cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon.

    Running back Darrell Henderson rejoined the team five days before Sunday and said he found out he would start pretty much on game day (Henderson was introduced on the video board as a starter during pregame warmups, which is planned somewhat in advance). He got a little more advance notice on his role, a planned series-by-series rotation with veteran running back Royce Freeman after the week of practice, in which Henderson was thrown into as many reps as possible between the actual offense and the scout team to make sure his game conditioning was OK after so many weeks away from football.

    But the 127-yard rushing effort between the two backs — which included a couple of nice pressure pick-ups in pass protection, including Henderson’s blitz blocking on a third-and-12 that allowed Stafford to scamper for a touchdown — as well as a 154-yard monster of a game from rookie receiver Puka Nacua were wasted on a team that couldn’t get out of its own way, has not gotten out of its own way, and seven games in is drawing skepticism that it ever will.

    “The biggest challenge (has been) the consistency through four quarters,” McVay said. “The complementary football. You look at it, there are some really good opportunities for us to be able to kind of just run away with some games or be able to kind of extend some leads, and we haven’t been able to do that.”

    There’s McVay, repeating himself about a Rams team that is on the wrong side of seven games — learning plenty, sure, young and growing, sure — but also giving opponents the opportunity to beat them.

    That they know better is what makes the sour taste of a loss like this stain the tongue, or a loss like the one in Cincinnati, or even the narrow losses to the NFL’s reigning elite earlier this season. Three of their four losses are by a touchdown or less.

    “Just keep trusting ourselves, just keep learning,” said Ben Skowronek, a team captain. “It’s kind of been the same song and dance week in and week out. Just continue to play within ourselves and do our job. We have a young team, but that’s no excuse. We’ve now played seven football games, countless practices. It’s really just playing complementary football and being able to put all three phases together.”

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Darrell Henderson says he didn’t know he would be starting essentially until right before the game. He did know he’d be getting about half the series split with Royce Freeman when he got to stadium. This week was all about getting him up to game conditioning, which meant he

    was thrown into as much as possible throughout practice – including even scout team. He says he feels physically fine postgame despite not having played in a game for a while.

    Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTST
    Rams had more

    Yards: 354-300
    First downs: 19-17
    Third down conversions: 56%-33%
    Plays: 62-56
    Time of Possession: 31:46-28:14

    …and lost.

    One turnover that led to points. Two missed FGs. Plays left on the field. That’s how you beat yourself.’

    One thing that is often forgotten about this Rams team is that they are one of the youngest groups in the NFL.

    It’s not an excuse, but with that comes a rollercoaster of peaks and valleys. It’s going to be inconsistent at times.

    Ted Nguyen@FB_FilmAnalysis
    Nacua is unbelievable. Made a ton of plays on crossers and choice routes without Kupp and then when Kupp was back, he made plays outside and downfield

    Bukayo Saka Liker@3k_
    Just too many execution issues. Rams aren’t talented enough to win games with that many self-inflicted problems against most teams.

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    JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
    That wasn’t just a prayer, Stafford was throwing to Atwell, look at where Atwell is and where Kupp is. The play design was for Kupp to draw the attention on the back pylon route of both corners and that opened up Atwell who had flattened his route out for a touchdown.
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    Would like to see Matthew Stafford dump the ball off more on the RB screen. Had Hendo for a first and more instead forces it and 3 and out.

    Credit the #Steelers. They had no business winning the game. The #Rams were dominating on the ground, had explosive after explosive. However, they held tough and stayed in the game

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Something worth noting…

    Rams are 1-3 at home. Losses to SF, PHI, and now PIT. All three fanbases took over SoFi. Rams were within one score heading into the 4th quarter in all but one of those games.

    Should be a little better rest of the way in that regard.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Steelers got the ball back at their 43 and their 41 following 2 missed Rams field goals. They have scored 10 points off of those field positions, a FG and a TD.

    Missed FG, possession started at PIT 41 – PIT FG
    INT, possession started at LA 7 – TD
    Missed FG, possession started at PIT 43 – TD
    All other possessions: Punts

    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Puka not only made the big plays on that series, but was also the lead blocker on that Hendo TD. Insanely impressive player. Rams hit a grand slam with him.
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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    Rams have changed things up on defense. Durant playing outside, Witherspoon playing on the right side of the defense, Kendrick off the field. Spoiler: it’s not working
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    Fishkiller@FV_Mylia_Lynn
    Let me make this clear – the Rams lost this game today. But that officiating at the end was absolute dog shit. Phantom PI, poor spot on 4th down. Just terrible. But the INT, dumb penalties, missed FGs & XP plus a late collapse by the defense lost them this game.

    McVay called a good game overall. Stuck with the run. Stafford didn’t have a good game & made a HUGE mistake w/ that INT. Defense collapsed in the 4th quarter. Maher needs to be cut in the locker room right now.

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Rams defense looks to have gotten a stop. However, a bad spot by an incompetent referee crew gives the Steelers the first down.

    McVay doesn’t have a timeout and can’t challenge. Absolutely unreal. Pickett is clearly short. Incompetence at its finest.

    Rich@rcoop21
    I get the Maher anger. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone tomorrow. But if your offense keeps having to settle for 50+ yard field goals attempts there are bigger problems at play.

    Tom@TL_LARams
    I know we are disappointed with Brett Maher today. And I would have loved to have kept Matt Gay. But Gay got the largest contract ever for a kicker in free agency. It didn’t fit for a franchise trying to reset its cap.

    The refs didn’t cost the Rams the game. They were down 7, with 2 minutes left and would have had to have driven 61 yards, and they managed that on only two of their 10 offensive drives today.

    RAMZILLA@elitster
    Dropped passes
    Bad bad interception
    2 missed FG’s
    1 missed XP
    Poor tackling again

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    I was and am fine with the trade. Goff and McV were just together at the wrong stages of each of their careers. The way I saw it, starting in 2019 McV’s impatience undermined Goff’s confidence. McV wasn’t going to change and with Goff the damage had been done. McV needed an older vet qb he respected and would listen to. Stafford at that stage and in fact at this stage is the better qb, though that’s true of Stafford compared to most of the league and it’s not a knock on Goff. (With Stafford in Detroit, the problem was always Detroit.) McV was going to develop better as a coach with Stafford. Detroit builds around Goff’s strengths and sets him up to be confident; with Stafford, McV is much more collaborative. (IMO McV probably still has to learn how to develop a young qb). Anyway I was alwayws both (1) critical of how McV handled Goff, and (2) accepting of the trade, which I always defended (and again I like Goff, though today the Ravens are slaughtering them).

    Lions can’t run on the Ravens and they’re sacking Goff and Jackson is eating them up. It’s funny, they finally got the “they’re legit” label and then immediately run into a buzz saw.

    Anyway, on Stafford/Goff. Not pushing an agenda. This topic is just going to have lots of different takes from different posters. In my view, Stafford is the best qb I’ve ever seen play with the Rams. Better than Warner even, who was great, and Bulger, who was good. Goff is good, potentially great, but Stafford can still make throws the other 3 couldn’t/can’t.

     

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