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  • #147579
    zn
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    And, a nice win.

     

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    #147592
    canadaram
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    That final goal line stand ended up with a Washington TD but it was a crucial moment in the Rams overcoming brutal late game efforts from Havrisik and Kedrick. I can’t wait until the Rams upgrade Kendrick. Bobby Brown was important today. Kyren Williams remains a pleasure to watch, despite the fumbles. Hope he’s fresh on the short week.

    The Saints must think that there are yards to gain through the air against this defense. I know I would if I were them.

    #147594
    joemad
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    Rams running game was overdue for a fumble or two… close to 150 yds rushing today

    secondary has been playing better lately, but today not so great against Washington’s passing game that is better than people think.

    Cooper Kupp, Robinson and Higby looking better in recent weeks.

    The Rams really haven’t won a meaningful game yet this season… in 5 days Derick Carr and the 7-7 Saints come marching in,…

    this is their chance win a meaningful game.

     

     

     

     

    #147595
    JackPMiller
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    I liked how hard we played for most of the game, but Washington scored two TDs in the 4th Quarter. We need to learn to close out games, in the final quarter. In other words, need to shutout teams in the 4th Quarter, and OT, if we have to go OT.

    #147597
    nittany ram
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    The offense looked great with the exception of a couple drive-ending fumbles by Williams and a bad drop by Nacua. I thought the defense looked a little tired in the second half, but the Rams got the W and are in the driver seat for the playoffs.

    #147598
    wv
    Participant

    Well, the best team won.

    So, thats good.

    Clunky, but good.

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    #147599
    Hram
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    Did what they should have don’t against a poor team.  Got a chance at the playoffs!

    #147601
    InvaderRam
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    sloppy game. yet the rams still had control of the game for the most part.

     

    and kyren williams. wow. i know he had the two fumbles, but he makes this oline better. he makes stafford and the whole offense better. i am amazed watching him run.

    #147604
    Zooey
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    Not good enough to win a beauty contest, but good enough to move up the playoff rankings.

    Washington played well in the RZ.

    So did the Rams. That was quite a job keeping them out of the end zone near the end. Dunno what Rivera was thinking on his use of TOs, but I don’t care.

    The Rams would good enough to keep Stafford clean, and good enough to keep DC from capitalizing on their errors, so…

    Saints have to travel. Rams don’t.

    Let’s go.

    #147605
    InvaderRam
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    also thought bobby brown was solid.

     

    allen had a good catch and run.  had at least a couple good blocks.  really rooting for him to win that te2 job.

    #147616
    wv
    Participant

    sloppy game. yet the rams still had control of the game for the most part. and kyren williams. wow. i know he had the two fumbles, but he makes this oline better. he makes stafford and the whole offense better. i am amazed watching him run.

     

    Yeah, thats what i keep thinking — Williams makes this Oline look so much better.  I’m just astonished at how he quick-slithers through traffic, and then bursts.

    Williams and Nakua are, like, all-pros at this point.   Seriously.  Amazing.

     

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    #147617
    zn
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    Williams and Nakua are, like, all-pros at this point.   Seriously.  Amazing.

    The McV/Snead Rams have a kind of mediocre history in the 2nd round. Maybe that’s changing, starting with Avilla?

    They have a pretty good history in the 3rd round (Jones for examle).

    They have an amazing record in the 4th through 6th rounds. The league-wide hit percentage in those rounds is very low. In the last 5 drafts they’ve gotten these players in those rounds: Allen, Nacua, Williams, Lake, Bobby Brown, Fuller, Gaines, and Edwards. That’s out of 19 picks, with a hit percentage of 42%, which is fantastic in those rounds.

    I know everyone knows this but I like finding the words for it. Namely: Williams’s superpower is in his play from handoff or pitch to hitting the LOS. Beyond the LOS he’s pretty strong for his size, has top contact balance, and is a fiercely determined straightline runner. He has those things but not the elusiveness, speed, size, or power. I mean he’s not just “a guy” in that respect but he does not have those things at the superpower level. His real magic is in those steps before he hits the LOS–vision, reads, instincts, anticipation, burst, smarts.

    The thing I see about Nacua is that he is constantly playing like a rookie. Drops, missed blocks, and I’ve seen where analysts find flaws in his route running. So imagine him after another training camp and refining his game to play more consistently. He could be a monster. So everything he is now but more.

     

     

    #147625
    Billy_T
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    The Rams made it a lot closer than it needed to be. Most everyone likely agrees about the play-calling in the Red Zone not being effective, the two out-of-character fumbles by Williams, and a dropped pass here and there as main culprits.

    Kendricks really needs to be upgraded this offseason. He’s a backup, really, and probably better suited to safety if he can bulk up. Just not fast enough to play corner, and I think he knows it. Which is why he gambles on getting flagged so often. I think the Rams also know this, which is why they’ve been trying so hard to claim Kyu Blu Kelly off waivers, but keep missing. He’s a better athlete than Kendricks, but has his own issues. The Rams brass must think they can coach him up, though.

    Stafford might be playing better now than he did when they won the Super Bowl. Also really like how they’ve incorporated Robinson into the mix. He’s a good receiver, and brings a good combo of size and speed. They now can claim three true starters at wideout again, and I hope they find a way to re-sign Robinson if he’s affordable. Age 30 season next year might help them do just that. The O-line is really playing well, too. If they can beat the Saints Thursday, they’re almost a lock for one of the Wild Cards.

    #147629
    wv
    Participant

    [quwote quote=147617]

    Williams and Nakua are, like, all-pros at this point. Seriously. Amazing.

    The McV/Snead Rams have a kind of mediocre history in the 2nd round. Maybe that’s changing, starting with Avilla? They have a pretty good history in the 3rd round (Jones for examle). They have an amazing record in the 4th through 6th rounds. The league-wide hit percentage in those rounds is very low. In the last 5 drafts they’ve gotten these players in those rounds: Allen, Nacua, Williams, Lake, Bobby Brown, Fuller, Gaines, and Edwards. That’s out of 19 picks, with a hit percentage of 42%, which is fantastic in those rounds. I know everyone knows this but I like finding the words for it. Namely: Williams’s superpower is in his play from handoff or pitch to hitting the LOS. Beyond the LOS he’s pretty strong for his size, has top contact balance, and is a fiercely determined straightline runner. He has those things but not the elusiveness, speed, size, or power. I mean he’s not just “a guy” in that respect but he does not have those things at the superpower level. His real magic is in those steps before he hits the LOS–vision, reads, instincts, anticipation, burst, smarts. The thing I see about Nacua is that he is constantly playing like a rookie. Drops, missed blocks, and I’ve seen where analysts find flaws in his route running. So imagine him after another training camp and refining his game to play more consistently. He could be a monster. So everything he is now but more.[/quote]

     

    Agree with all that.  100 percent

     

    In some ways Williams is the most interesting/fun RB to watch/analyze in a long time.

    Im not sure i can remember a rb quite like him.

    And my lord what a difference he makes.   Combined with the new OLine and the new blocking scheme.    I mean, some of these drives in the last few games have been glorious.  The whipsawing.  The physical nature of the running.   The way the defenses are kept off balance.  Stafford’s elite skills.   Kupp, Nakua, Higby, the new TE.   And that vet  WR they signed.   I love that guy.  Forgot his name.    Its all come together on offense.

    Really really pretty drives.   Different than the super bowl year.

     

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    #147632
    nittany ram
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     Agree with all that. 100 percent In some ways Williams is the most interesting/fun RB to watch/analyze in a long time. Im not sure i can remember a rb quite like him. w v

    In that chat room I predicted that you would no longer like Williams after his second fumble.

    You’re getting soft.

     

     

    #147633
    wv
    Participant

    Agree with all that. 100 percent In some ways Williams is the most interesting/fun RB to watch/analyze in a long time. Im not sure i can remember a rb quite like him. w v

    In that chat room I predicted that you would no longer like Williams after his second fumble. You’re getting soft.

    He’s ‘that’ good.   Way better than that useless fumbler Eric Dickerson.

     

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    #147636
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    i would just add about kyren. first of all i agree. it’s the vision and instincts and burst and decisiveness that standout about williams. and i agree he doesn’t have elite size and speed and strength. it’s probably why he’ll never have any one play that just jumps out like todd gurley would regularly break out. but he’s just so unbelievably consistent. like a metronome. and it makes this offense run so much smoother. gurley didn’t have that level of instinct and vision.

    In some ways Williams is the most interesting/fun RB to watch/analyze in a long time.

     

    yeah.

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    #147640
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Williams is a keeper. Great vision and contact balance, as ZN is wont to say. Makes a ton of good decisions on the fly, and tacklers miss him going through the whole. Lacks home run speed, but the Rams don’t really need him to do that. That’s just a bonus when it’s there. But I do think he can continue to give the Rams a lot of chunk plays . . . six, eight, twelve yards and a cloud of dust.

    Gurley was a legit track guy, like Dickerson. They had it all. Like Sayers, Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, Sanders, Faulk, etc. Sometimes, though, the truly elite backs don’t always work on the little stuff, and backs with fewer athletic gifts, like Williams, do. Strikes me as “natural” that the naturally gifted rely more on those gifts, and the players without them, if they have serious want-to, compensate enough to almost make up for it.

    Unicorns are the guys with relentless want-to plus those elite natural gifts. They’re not satisfied with playing up to their naturals. They want to set a new paradigm. Hoping I get to see some more unicorns playing for the Rams before I hang up the old cleats.

    #147647
    zn
    Moderator

    i would just add about kyren. first of all i agree. it’s the vision and instincts and burst and decisiveness that standout about williams. and i agree he doesn’t have elite size and speed and strength. it’s probably why he’ll never have any one play that just jumps out like todd gurley would regularly break out. but he’s just so unbelievably consistent. like a metronome. and it makes this offense run so much smoother. gurley didn’t have that level of instinct and vision.

    Sometimes, though, the truly elite backs don’t always work on the little stuff, and backs with fewer athletic gifts, like Williams, do. Strikes me as “natural” that the naturally gifted rely more on those gifts, and the players without them, if they have serious want-to, compensate enough to almost make up for it.

    It’s fun to discuss Wms.

    I agree with all the points made here.

    Consistency, as IR says. A self-maximizer, as BT says.

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