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August 24, 2014 at 3:42 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4801
znModeratorThanks for posting that signage post…..I wasn’t aware of that.
I really want to see this game.
You can.
It’s right here.
Look up at the sticky post. http://theramshuddle.com/topic/the-browns-game-here-w-cleveland-announcers/
August 24, 2014 at 3:32 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4798
znModeratorLike many of you, I was looking forward to watching the re-air of Saturday night’s game between the Rams and the Browns on NFL Network at 1:00 p.m. ET. Like many of you, I was disappointed to tune in and see a game that was broadcast nationally by CBS, Saints at Colts.
So why did NFL Network dump the Rams-Browns contest? Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Browns disregarded the new ban on virtual signage during preseason contests. Which prompted NFLN to in turn disregard the Browns’ broadcast.
“Virtual signage” has resulted in team’s selling large chunks of the field, such as the entire red-zone area.
Currently, NFLN is attempting to secure the rights to the Rams’ broadcast of the game. If that happens, the Rams-Browns game will re-air as scheduled on Monday night at 8:00 p.m. ET and Thursday at 3:00 p.m. ET. Absent the Rams’ broadcast, Giants-Jets and Panthers-Patriots will air in those two slots, respectively.
August 24, 2014 at 3:28 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4797
znModeratorfrom RFIP
@ProFootballTalk: NFLN dumps Browns-Rams re-air due to virtual signage in Cleveland broadcast [t.co]
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What is “virtual signage”?
znModeratorhttp://noonkick.com/2014-nfl-preseason-st-louis-rams-at-cleveland-browns/ This the original link. I don’t know who posted it first.
It won’t be up long then I imagine.
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znModeratorWell, without commenting on past-history
and what it was and what it meant, etc,
It sure looks like EVERY team is gonna
go downfield more with these new rules
limiting the Defensive-Backs.I mean a coach would have to be nutz
not to air it out NOW.I’m expecting a great air-show in game One…
from ‘every’ team.w
vOkay. But what I am saying is, they were already doing it. That was the Schott offense all along. Before 2014.
The numbers get buried in 2013 because of Richardson (if you can’t run the D takes away big plays) and Clemens (if you can’t throw em you don’t throw em.)
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good point wv. things should open up more for everyone.
Well, again though, IR–regardless what everyone else is doing in 2014, my point is that the Rams were already doing this in 2012. So to me the Rams in 2014 are nothing new.
znModeratorSTLRamsnCards
Johnson has sprain
6 weeks is what a Rams site on Facebook said.
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ALSO:
@JasonLaCanfora: MRI revealed a sprained MCL for Rams corner Trumaine Johnson. Likely a 6 week timetable
znModeratorThanks ag. Way to come through. I made this its own thread. If you would rather I move it back to where it was, just say so and voila.
August 24, 2014 at 2:14 pm in reply to: Fisher, 8/23 – video…+ recap on 101 w/ Fisher, Savard, Farr #4766
znModeratorRams head coach Jeff Fisher recaps third preseason contest with Farr, Savard
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August 24, 2014 at 1:34 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4762
znModeratorI filed a complaint on nfl network’s ‘contact us’ link. Called them a bunch of money grubbing clowns that couldn’t manage a pack of rats.
I’m sure it’ll get filed in the ‘old Ram fan who hates the world’ folder. But, by golly it sure was fun to hit submit.
Could you provide that link? Thanks.
August 24, 2014 at 1:25 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4760
znModeratorsdram wrote:
I planned last night and then this afternoon around it. What a bunch of clowns.You guys might have to just break down and buy the online p-s game package.
It’s now just 14.99.
https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?ttv=3
If you have budget-conscious wives, offer to go without something.
This is causing a riot net-wide.
Im Calling DirecTV Now!! Do The Same 800-531-5000
Author: 49RH8R
[ Go to pageGo to page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ]Rams on TV? Not seeing them on nfl network
Author: Yodagump
[ Go to pageGo to page: 1, 2 ]So whats the deal NFL Network?
Author: Apollo08W
[ Go to pageGo to page: 1, 2 ]The NFL Network suks !!
Author: Rampage101That;s 4 separate threads all from page 1 of the same forum.
Here;s a different board:
Omg!!!!! NFL Net screws us again!!!!!
Rampage2K- 145 viewsAnd another:
NFL NETWORK F@#$!#$IN US
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[ Goto pageGoto page: 1, 2 ] 21 replies, 646 viewsAugust 24, 2014 at 1:17 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4757
znModeratorI planned last night and then this afternoon around it. What a bunch of clowns.
You guys might have to just break down and buy the online p-s game package.
It’s now just 14.99.
https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?ttv=3
If you have budget-conscious wives, offer to go without something.
August 24, 2014 at 1:08 pm in reply to: re-broadcast time (Browns game) … actually NFL won't rebroadcast it (yet) #4752
znModeratorThey changed it again. The Saints and Colts are on at 1pm on the NFL network.
Stupid bastards.
znModeratori kind of agree with that. i think they’ll pick their spots. they won’t be wide open, but they’ll certainly pick their spots to go downfield. i don’t know if that means they’ll be an aggressive downfield offense.
on the nfl spectrum of offenses, they will tend to be on the conservative side whatever that means. they’ll be more seahawks than packers.
I think it will be a mix. It’s an equation. A plus B. A = power running & ball control passing. B = downfield shots, designed big plays of all types, play action.
A and B won’t be equal in numbers, but they will be equal in importance. They want to do both things, one goes hand in hand with the other, and the downfield shots won’t just be picking their spots…they will go into games intending to do this. They won’t take their shots they will set their shots up.
I am also saying this is nothing new. It’s how they did things in 2012 also. But, in 2012 they didn’t have the receivers they do now.
znModeratorwell i’m not sure what this means then. or is it that using the words “brittle” and “breaks easily” is inflammatory?
Mack said this: I think the term, “china doll” is overtly provocative.
I took that as meaning it’s not the issue, it’s how it’s put.
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znModeratorI just keep adding different views to this discussion.
==Mark Harper
For those who didn’t listen to Savard and Farr last night . Towards the end of the game they were speaking with someone and said that very common post acl to take a minimal hit or push off oddly and break up scar tissue. He described that feeling as extremely painful but after a day or so can be beneficial to the knee long term. He said that the slight hyper extension of Sam’s knee looked at first glance that it may be a scar tissue issue . Sorry I missed who thy were speaking to ( may have been sideline reporter Will Witherspoon)
znModeratorsorry, mack. i gotta go with grits on this. bradford is not proving to be a durable guy. maybe his ligaments are just not that durable. i’m beginning to think it’s just a matter of when not if his next big injury comes.
hope i’m wrong.
Mack’s point, though, is not the substance of what got said but the way it was said.
Mack, the way I read him, was agreeing that some guys do get hurt more: Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others.
So he agreed about the durability issue. From reading Mack I gather it’s an open question about Bradford’s durability. On saying he’s injury prone? Or not durable? That could be true of Bradford or not, though certainly one way to take yesterday is that it’s starting to add up with him. Mack only had some qualms about HOW it was said.
znModeratorNick Wagoner @nwagoner
Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”
Jim Thomas (@jthom1)
FIsher on Bradford’s knee injury: “I’m very optimistic for his quick return.”
znModeratortru’s injury looked bad.
as far as sam. well. just gotta push forward. but i get this feeling that the guy is fragile.
I don’t think he’s fragile. A hyperextended knee is bad, ever had one? You recover from it fine, but, it hurts like hell when it happens, and it doesn’t happen cause you’re fragile.
znModeratorNick Wagoner @nwagoner
Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”
znModeratorJim Thomas @jthom1
Brian Quick on Bradford’s injury: “I was a little nervous about it but everything is all right. Sam told me that he is OK.”
znModeratormorris1
According to NFL Channel Sam has had an initial MRI and it did not show anything – will have another tomorrow. But previous player on NFL Channel stated that Bradford may have simply torn scare tissue which often occurs after major surgery. Tearing scare tissue can be quite painful, but also temporary.
znModeratorBummer is that’s the way it was in Carolina too.
No I think this was different…he was clearly bad hurt in Carolina, I didn’t get that sense this time
Anyway, this from off the net, fwiw
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Str8 Ramminim an athletic therapist and if that were a total ligament rupture, especially an acl it would have had to happen from a force coming from the posterior of the knee to the anterior. But the force of impact came from the front to the back. It may be just a hyperextension but i wouldn’t rule out a possible mcl strain and or partial meniscus tear
znModeratorrambill from off the net: It wasn’t that the knee was hit….the guy hit him up high and it caused an awkward downward pressure on his leg…it may have been hyperextended slightly.
znModeratorI think you have the Vikes ranked too high.
Anyway, interesting and bold list!
August 23, 2014 at 4:48 pm in reply to: Looking to the Browns game – Wagoner, Farr, Miklasz, & co. #4671
znModeratorNFL Now: Rams vs. Browns Preview: Marc Istook and Elliot Harrison preview which players you should pay attention to in the preseason Week 3 game between the St. Louis Rams and the Cleveland Browns.
znModeratorJust IMO a pretty good from-the-net take on this issue.
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Speed_Kills
Last week all eyes were on Bradford. That will continue to be the case this week but he is 1b. All eyes will also turn to the oline. This will be the first time the starters are in and they will be tested. I imagine that the Browns in the dress rehearsal will come after him a few times (unlike the Packers last week). Secondly a team that supposedly wants to dictate with their run game has to start running the ball better. I very much want to see that tonight. Last week that wasn’t the Rams starting oline…this week its time to go. So everything turns up a notch.
I am hopeful that Britt can play tonight, and want to see that lineup that features he and Quick on the outside, Tavon in the slot, and Cook at TE.
It looks like JL will not play again this week but let him get healthy… heck part of me says do the same for Brockers. [The Browns]…signed Ben Tate from the Texans a RB many Ram fans were high on at one point. Don’t be surprised if he presses the Rams tonight
Defensively I want to see more of what we have been seeing from these young DBs… TJ and and JJ are back so I want to see them play well. The Browns passing game is a work in progress. They are clearly behind learning a new offense. Keep it that way. Don’t want to see them coming to life against the Rams
I personally hope Givens can show something on returns and that when he gets in there with the second team offense he can get a couple of clean balls so that he can show what he is capable of athletically.
znModeratorYou know I don’t think Seattle has been called much for this. I think they adjusted. That’s just an impression. I didn’t do no detailed study using science foundation grant money or anything. I just sort of watched Chicago self-destruct against them yesterday, and in the middle of shaking my head at Chicago’s various flawed efforts to imitate football, I sort of vaguely noticed that the Seahawks didn’t get many calls like this. One or 2?
znModeratorFerguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household
In the chamber where Officer Darren Wilson received a commendation six months before killing Michael Brown, a minor court generates major money from the city’s poor and working people.
The Ferguson Police have now released a video that shows police Officer Darren Wilson receiving a commendation six months before he became known to the whole nation as the cop who gunned down an unarmed 18-year-old.
The irony is obvious to anyone who watches the footage of this proud young officer receiving the award at a ceremony in the City Council chamber as Ferguson’s six council members applaud.
“Officer Wilson, in recognition of outstanding police work while investigating a suspicious-vehicle call,” Chief Thomas Jackson says in making the presentation. “Acting alone, you struggled with one subject and [were] able to gain control of the subject and his car keys until assistance arrived. Later, during the interview, it was discovered that the subject was breaking down a large quantity of marijuana for sale.”
Jackson adds, “Great job, Darren.”
But there is another, unnoticed irony in the venue itself. Three times a month—one day and two nights—the City Council chamber also serves as home to the incredibly busy and extremely profitable Ferguson municipal court.
A report issued just last week by the nonprofit lawyer’s group ArchCity Defenders notes that in the court’s 36 three-hour sessions in 2013, it handled 12,108 cases and 24,532 warrants. That is an average of 1.5 cases and three warrants per Ferguson household. Fines and court fees for the year in this city of just 21,000 people totaled $2,635,400.
The sum made the municipal court the city’s second-biggest source of revenue. It also almost certainly was a major factor in the antagonism between the police and the citizenry preceding the tragedy that resulted when Wilson had another encounter with a subject six months after he got his commendation.
And any complete investigation into how Michael Brown came to be sprawled dead in the street with a half-dozen bullet wounds must consider not just the cop but the system he served, a system whose primary components include a minor court that generates major money, much of it from poor and working people.Five of the six City Council members who meet in this chamber are white, even though the city itself is more than 70 percent black. The City Council appoints the municipal judge, currently Ron Brockmeyer, who is also white.
But when this same chamber serves as Ferguson Municipal Court, a disproportionate number of the defendants are black.
The immediate explanation is that the bulk of the cases arise from car stops. The ArchCity Defenders report notes: “Whites comprise 29% of the population of Ferguson but just 12.7% of vehicle stops. After being stopped in Ferguson, blacks are almost twice as likely as whites to be searched (12.1% vs. 6.9%) and twice as likely to be arrested (10.4% vs. 5.2%).”Lest anyone contend that blacks inherently merit greater police attention than whites, the report offers another statistic.
“Searches of black individuals result in discovery of contraband only 21.7% of the time, while similar searches of whites produce contraband 34.0% of the time.”That would suggest both that whites were more likely to be stopped when there was actual probable cause and that blacks were more likely to be stopped when there was not. And the antagonism sure to be generated by such racial disparities was magnified by the sheer number of cases.
The report cites a court employee as saying the docket for a typical three-hour court session has up to 1,500 cases. The report goes on to say that “in addition to such heavy legal prosecution,” the Ferguson court and others like it in nearby towns “engage in a number of operational procedures that make it even more difficult for defendants to navigate the courts.”
The report goes on, “For example, a Ferguson court employee reported that the bench routinely starts hearing cases 30 minutes before the appointed time and then locks the doors to the building as early as five minutes after the official hour, a practice that could easily lead a defendant arriving even slightly late to receive an additional charge for failure to appear.”
The lawyers of ArchCity Defenders specialize in representing the indigent and the homeless. They noticed that many of their clients had multiple warrants on minor charges issued by municipal courts in Ferguson and the other 80 municipalities in St. Louis County that have their own courts and police.
“They didn’t just have one case, they had 10 cases,” says Thomas Harvey, the organization’s 44-year-old executive director.
The warrants too often precluded the clients from securing shelter and services, and access to job programs. The lawyers sought some remedy in the issuing courts.
“It kept being about the money,” Harvey recalls. “We were telling the court, ‘They don’t have any money because they’re homeless.’”
That same venue where Wilson received his commendation and the City Council members applauded is where justice is insulted wholesale three times a week.
The clients felt sure they were being targeted because they were black and poor, and told the lawyers tales of unfair treatment by everybody from the cops to the bailiffs to the judges.
“I’ll be real honest, I didn’t believe them,” Harvey says.
With the help of college students, ArchCity Defenders started a court watch program eight months ago. They concluded that much of what their clients had been saying was all too true. Impoverished defendants were frequently ordered to pay fines that were triple their monthly income. Some ended up with no income at all as they sat in jail for weeks, awaiting a hearing.
ArchCity decided to focus on what seemed to be three of the worst cities.
“Three courts, Bel-Ridge, Florissant, and Ferguson, were chronic offenders and serve as prime examples of how these practices violate fundamental rights of the poor, undermine public confidence in the judicial system, and create inefficiencies,” the subsequent report says.
The report was all but complete and just needed an introduction when Harvey went on summer vacation. He chanced to return the day after Michael Brown was shot to death by Officer Darren Warren.
“I got off the plane saying, ‘I got to finish this and get it out,’” Harvey recalls.
Harvey understood that whatever the particular details of the tragedy, there was also a larger context.
“It’s not just about Michael Brown and this officer,” Harvey says.
The statistics assembled for the report concerning race and car stops in Ferguson were no great surprise, especially considering that its police department is proportionately even whiter than its City Council, with just three blacks among its 52 cops. The number that jumped out was the huge revenue, big bucks for a little burg.
“Anybody who makes a revenue source a line of a budget becomes dependent on it,” Harvey suggests.
But if the system’s objective was money, the result was still that many people felt targeted because of race and class.
August 23, 2014 at 12:18 am in reply to: Torry Holt: Tavon Austin’s Biggest Impact Will be on Special Teams #4633
znModeratortavon will adapt to this league. and the coaches will continue to find specific ways in which austin can use his explosion to help this offense. i agree with you rfl. just the normal process of developing a rookie with a different skill set than your typical “wide receiver”.
I think we will see Austin do all kinds of things this year. The goal is 2000 combined yards–receiving, returning, rushing. The 3 Rs of Austinology.
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