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ModeratorWagoner must get paid by the article.
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ModeratorFisher mentions that he’s glad certain crazy things came up in the 2 minute stuff, that way they can fix some issues.
I don’t know how important this is, but that kind of reminds me that I think Fisher is the kind of coach who is better at finding and fixing problems then he is at preparing a team to not have that many problems in the first place.
Odd as it sounds, that’s a compliment. It means he’s not a man with a dominating vision, BUT at the same time is a very pragmatic guy who is willing and able to adjust things on the move.
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ModeratorWAGONER:
Mason was the busiest of the backs, getting 15 carries for 51 yards. He struggled to get much going early but he was also working behind the third-team offensive line.
Mason clearly showed well. Top-notch lateral quickness. It’s pretty obvious he’ll be a player.
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ModeratorWhy is Brian Quick being ripped for that ONE pass target he had?
It was an overthrown ball…Hill even said as much(“I’d like to have that one back”)...
And Pettis made a great 21yd catch between 2 defenders.
Pettis is a fine 5th WR…possession WR.Agree on Pettis. That was a classic Pettis “catch radius” reception.
On Quick. What bothered the people who were bothered by it is the return of the classic BQ “hangdog” demeanor after the play. To many, his change this summer has to do with attitude and confidence, but that old whupped teenager thing doesn’t seem to fit that. It’s just one small thing.
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ModeratorThe downfall of the kicking game began with the release of Massey. Maybe he’d come back?
He has transcended daily concerns and risen to a higher plain, where he sits cross-legged in his living room, his mortal eyes shut as his inner eye watches over us with benign indulgence.
It would be nice if he conjured up some luck now and then for his former team, but nooooooooo……..
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ModeratorI honestly think the really BAD series of plays had as much to do with them playing Gaines, McGee, Armstrong, Dunbar at MLB, Donald, and Carrington as anything else.
I don’t think Langford saw the field.
If that’s right, that’s 6 starters out.
That unit didn’t even look confident at first. They had a half-step behind, anxious to catch up feel to them.
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August 9, 2014 at 11:03 am in reply to: Packers game live (NFL net LIVE pre-season game schedule including 2 Rams games) #3689zn
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Moderatorzn wrote:
nittany ram wrote:
When the game’s on the line, he’s not that reliable.
Jake Long, Wells, Brockers, Laurinaitis, Jenkins, and Bradford were all out.
How do you expect JZ to hit them all without a decent supporting cast?
Do you even follow football?
Great kickers elevate the players around them. Even the most casual observer of football knows that.
Okay.
I see exactly where this is going.
Board war.
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ModeratorStedman Bailey is our best receiver. Period.
I think that’s fair (so far). And that’s the thing too…you can see it right off the bat, cause we all saw it last year too, even in limited play. “It” here being the ability to be a very good NFL receiver.
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ModeratorWhen the game’s on the line, he’s not that reliable.
Jake Long, Wells, Brockers, Laurinaitis, Jenkins, and Bradford were all out.
How do you expect JZ to hit them all without a decent supporting cast?
Do you even follow football?
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Moderatorwe’re in the test chat room
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Moderatorwasted fake punt though cause they blew 4th and short
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Moderatorlol great fake punt
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Moderatormissed tackle…td
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Moderator3rd string OL not a wonderous crew
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Moderatorgood catch pettis
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Moderatorwell that saints td wasn’t good
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Moderatorgood to be able to watch the rams again. even got a first drive touchdown!
Yeah that TD drive was good
August 8, 2014 at 5:31 pm in reply to: Kellen Clemens looked very good for Chargers last night #3600zn
ModeratorHe Isaiah, he threw the ball well enough to damn near beat the Seahawks on a Monday night game if it wasn’t for Janoris Jenkins swallowing his adams apple against Golden Tate.
He threw it well enough that they should have won at least 8 ball games.
Maybe you should open your eyes?
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And we can thank Schott for that, Grits, because he set Clemens in the best position he could, given what they had.
Clemens wasn’t beating Seattle on that MOnday night game. Stacy was plus the pass rush was doing that.
If you take Clemens avg. attempts per game and extrapolate it across 16 games, in 2013 he would have ranked 31st in the league.
If they thought he could throw, they would have let him throw.
I like Clemens on that final drive that game, the one that got them to the 6 (then they failed to score). But…last night is just not Clemens across time. In real games with the Jets and Rams, he has already shown what he is. He’s just not accurate past 15 or so yards. That’s been true of him for years. One play last night is not going to change that picture.
BUT! Having said all that, I wish him well. He played above himself last year I think. While he was the qb they upset 3 division winners. If he goes on and does well some more, good for him.
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ModeratorStanley is now a post-game guy for Rams broadcasts.
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ModeratorBowman with a bum knee and Aldon out half the season…. some serious kinks in the SF D.
You;re there, on the scene. Our advanced patrol.
How is Justin Smith doing these days.
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ModeratorPrediction: Game will be somewhat boring but it is pre-season. Aren’t they all.
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Yeah, as a game, it will be dull. I expect the wife to be asleep on the couch by 8:10.
But there are so many players we get to see! More than usual. Joyner, Donald, Ogletree (how much better?), Westbrooks, Sam, Conrath, Carrington, Robinson, Joseph, all the TEs (better?), Hill, Gilbert, Quick (better?), Bailey and Austin (better?), Mason…etc.
One pre-season game won’t answer all those questions but it’s like a buffet of interesting bits to watch for.
Join the game day thread here, GRITS. It’s always lively.
August 8, 2014 at 11:01 am in reply to: Kellen Clemens looked very good for Chargers last night #3575zn
ModeratorDisplayed a very strong arm and had a real pretty 70 yard bomb for a TD. Dan Fouts was very impressed with him.
I think the Rams are going to miss Clemens. Not sure that Hill is an upgrade.Grits
BTW: Chargers are loaded with skilled players like you wouldn’t believe. They have re-tooled nicely and I think they give Denver all they can handle this year in the AFC West.
I promise you, on that one pass it was timing plus playing the Dallas secondary plus it just being the pre-season with no special gameplanning for the qb. Clemens does not have a strong arm. That was known going back to the Jets. If you put together years of their work, Hill is a clear upgrade over Clemens. One pre-season game notwithstanding.
Once teams last year figured out you can stack up against the run and dare Clemens to beat you passing, it was rough sledding.
I think Clemens played over his head with the Rams and was a good leader in a tough situation. He does have nice accuracy on 10-15 yard laser type passes. But last night is no indication of how a decent defense will play him after gameplanning him. THAT would be a completely different story.
Schott had to start Clemens at one point as the OC in New York. Believe me, the Rams know who he is and what he can and can’t do.
August 8, 2014 at 10:56 am in reply to: game Friday Aug 8….watch pre-season games on nfl.com for 19.99 #3572zn
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August 8, 2014 at 10:51 am in reply to: audio/articles set up Saints game: Thomas, Balzer, Wagoner, Miklasz, Siciliano #3567zn
ModeratorWhat is the most important storyline heading into tomorrow’s game? NFL Network host Andrew Siciliano talks to Randy K. and D’Marco Farr.
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ModeratorBottom line in Washington.
3rd in 2014
9th in 2005
30th in 2006The circumstances don’t matter, that’s a steep decline.
It has been that way essentially everyplace he’s been.
He has had several bottom third in the league defenses.
Oh and I was wrong, he’s had 7 different NFL jobs.
This is the way I look at everything: the circumstances always matter.
In 2007, the Washington defense was 8th. So they bounced back from a bad year in 2006. Similarly, in 2011 the Saints defense fell off when basically its DL collapsed for various reasons.The Washington press analyzed the 2006 collapse in detail. There’s a lot of info on it.
For anyone who’s interested:
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ModeratorI read this and it was the worse analysis that I have seen of the Rams.It also shows that there are a lot of writers who just mail it in.
Yeah it;s a bad one. I doubt he even watched them last year, unless he’s one of the many who saw only the 1st 9ers game (which was nationally broadcast).
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Moderatorzn, buddy you’re kidding right? How many jobs has Williams had, 6? He has worn out his welcome everyplace he’s been.
Check this out. Look at how his defenses have declined, its good early then fizzles out.
Its like Venturi says, he’s a “quick fix” guy, but nothing sustainable.
That is symptomatic of something, that something should be obvious.
He’s an arrogant prick, that wears on people.
I don’t agree that he can’t sustain. He had one bad year in Washington, and I read up on that one. The issue was personnel, which he was indirectly responsible for. Either way they bounced back the following year. That means they had a top defense 3 out of 4 years, and the 1 bad year I looked into–there was a ton written about it. New Orleans? It took a couple of years of personnel repairing plus getting over bountygate to get them playing decently. At one point, in 2011, the DL combined had fewer sacks than Quinn did himself last year. The Saints just never had players.
Venturi is simply wrong about him being a quick fix guy. The record does not demonstrate that. In fact Venturi has discussed Wms before and did not say that in his previous interviews.
There are plenty of arrogant pricks who wear on people in the NFL. If they can field good teams, they tend to stick around.
So we just see this one differently, which is par for the course with posters in general on a lot of different issues that are this controversial.
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ModeratorDammit. You made me look.
LOL.
I know that they’d LOVE to keep 10 OL and 10 DL. The question is how?
Btw, if we keep 10 OL and 10 DL, those would be Sean Hooey and Matt Conrath.
Ask Ohio State…Christian Bryant is a SPECIAL player… the guy is a guy that just makes things happen and won’t last on the PS.
You may be right about 5 Safeties and it may be Conrath instead of Bryant and they may try to sneak Bryant onto the PS.
What kills me is that I can see several of the guys we try to put on our PS defensively not making it… which is gonna stink for making our PS…
Well to me it was 10 OL or 10 DL. That was partly based on the “who’s your best 53” model. Though…on the OL, they just might be injury conscious too.
Yes this is the year where we hear about Rams cuts being snapped up all over the league.
Some day, I swear, it will reach the point where they have to re-stock the PS anew every week. I swear, that’s coming. It’s on its way. Maybe teams will just give the Rams draft picks, figuring, well they can’t keep them all, so we’ll just wait and see which Boudreau/Waufle/Fassel guys they cut….
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