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    Expect Opponents to Use the Redskins’ Blueprint Against the Rams

    Anthony Stalter in National Football League

    http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/23/expect-opponents-to-use-the-redskins-blueprint-against-the-rams/

    If it weren’t for the boiling frustrations that came from watching a 24-10 letdown, one could almost appreciate how the Redskins beat the Rams last Sunday.

    The Redskins held Aaron Donald to 0.5 sacks in the Rams’ loss.
    Since the second half of last season, it’s been fun watching the Rams play defense under Gregg Williams. They’re relentless, aggressive, and they make a point of emphasis to get after the quarterback. They don’t read-and-react: they get off the ball fast and attempt to dictate where they want the play to go, as opposed to the other way around.

    But on Sunday at FedEx Field, the Redskins moved the ball at will on the ground. By the time the Rams adjusted, they trailed 17-0 and with the offense completely stagnant, they had little margin for error when it came to mounting a comeback (which they couldn’t pull off in the end).

    After watching Aaron Donald destroy Seattle’s game plan the week prior, Washington must have made it a point to allow the 2014 Defensive Rookie of the Year to crash the backfield as if he were pass-rushing on every play.

    On two big runs in the first quarter, Donald came within inches of disrupting the play in the backfield. But the runs were just wide enough that Washington wound up using the Rams’ aggressiveness against itself.

    On Alfred Morris’ 35-yard run in the first quarter, Washington ran a stretch play and released guard Brandon Scherff to the second level after Donald shot through the gap. With nobody to slow Scherff from building a head of steam, he was able to block linebacker James Laurinaitis and create a massive running lane for Morris to exploit. Safety Rodney McLeod came down to properly fill the lane, but he missed the tackle as Morris burst up field.

    While Washington deserves credit for executing the play, the takeaway for the Rams is that they turned a five-yard gain into a 35-yard run.

    Two plays later, Matt Jones ran for a touchdown to give the Redskins a 7-0 lead. This time, it was center Kory Lichtensteiger that released to block Laurinaitis, while tight end Jordan Reed came off the line free to take on Alec Ogletree.

    McLeod wound up blocking himself when he decided to run inside to fill the gap instead of flowing over-the-top, and Jones raced 39 yards up the sidelined for the Redskins’ second explosive run of the quarter, and their first score of the game.

    These weren’t the only plays where Washington effectively allowed Donald to jet up field only to release an interior lineman to wash out a linebacker. Throughout the first half, damaging runs by Jones and Morris came out of 12 (1RB/2TEs) and 13 (1RB/3TEs) personnel, which the Redskins effectively used to execute a game plan that everyone saw coming.

    The Rams knew Washington’s offense wasn’t going to run through quarterback Kirk Cousins, especially not with DeSean Jackson out with a hamstring injury. They needed to stop the run from the outset, which didn’t happen.

    None of this is to suggest that Donald or any one player was at fault for Sunday’s surprising loss in Landover. No, that sort of defeat takes a collective effort.

    From the defensive line creating wide running lanes, to the linebackers not getting off blocks, and safeties missing tackles, it was a mess from the start.

    The offense didn’t do the defense any favors, either.

    Its inability to run the ball created plenty lot of third-and-longs for Nick Foles, which led to multiple three-and-outs. By the time Pierre Garcon made the score 17-0 with a second quarter touchdown reception, the defense was completely gassed from being on the field for too long.

    As previously mentioned, the Rams did adjust. In the Redskins’ first drive of the second half, Donald started to flow down the line instead of crashing the backfield. This helped the Rams clog running lanes and create more traffic for Washington’s backs to work through, but by that point the damage had been done (and the offense wasn’t doing its job).

    The Steelers aren’t stupid.

    They’d be stubborn not to take Washington’s blueprint and utilize formations with multiple tight ends in order to run the ball and subsequently keep the Rams’ pass rush at bay. While Pittsburgh has a drastically better passing attack than Washington, the Steelers aren’t going to subject Ben Roethlisberger to St. Louis’ pass rush if Le’Veon Bell can take over the game on the ground.

    Pittsburgh’s defense isn’t what it once was so an effective running game will also keep that unit off the field and fresh.
    In order to flip the script, it’ll be up to the Rams’ defense to play with more discipline, and for the offense to sustain drives.
    If neither happens…well, we’ve already seen the end result.

    in reply to: Gurley Prepping for Possible Debut? #31084
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    i just posted an espn article on this in the other thread.

    It’s here now.

    in reply to: Thomas: teams are playing keepaway from Rams #31080
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    I would run at them

    In the end, I would much rather hear interesting ideas about what the Rams should do.

    in reply to: setting up the STEELERS game #31069
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    Le’Veon Bell set to return against Rams

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21673/leveon-bell-set-to-return-against-rams

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams got some bad news before the season even started when Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell’s three-game suspension for violating the league’s policy on substance abuse was reduced to two games.

    The Rams had the misfortune of being the third game on Pittsburgh’s schedule and looked to to be lucky enough to miss out on playing against one of the best backs in the league before the reduction.

    Now, one week after allowing Washington backs Alfred Morris and Matt Jones to combine for 182 rushing yards, the Rams get to deal with a fresh and motivated Bell. And Bell is complemented by a rejuvenated DeAngelo Williams.

    ESPN senior NFL writer Jeremy Fowler offered a quick glimpse Tuesday on what the Rams can expect from Bell and Williams on Sunday.

    We’ll have more on the Rams’ issues against the run and how dangerous the Bell/Williams combo is this week but it’s notable that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin has already made it clear that Bell won’t be eased back into action.

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    Fisher expects old friend Mike Munchak to try to slow Rams pass rush

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21685/jeff-fisher-expects-old-friend-mike-munchak-to-try-to-slow-rams-top-pass-rushers

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — When he arrived as the new head coach of the St. Louis Rams in 2012, Jeff Fisher was able to get most of his original band back together.

    Fisher brought many of his longtime assistants and friends such as assistant head coach Dave McGinnis, senior defensive assistant Chuck Cecil, assistant linebackers coach Joe Bowden and, eventually, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and linebackers coach Frank Bush, along with him. Noticeable in his absence was offensive line coach Mike Munchak, who had worked with Fisher in Houston/Tennessee from 1994 to 2010, mostly as his offensive line coach.

    Of course, Munchak had good reason for not ending up in St. Louis: He was the Titans’ choice to replace Fisher as head coach in 2011. Munchak led the Titans from 2011 to 2013, posting a 22-26 record before he lost the job after a 7-9 performance in 2013. During that 2013 season, Munchak and Fisher coached against each other for the first time, with Munchak’s Titans coming away with a 28-21 win at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Both coaches downplayed the matchup after it was over.

    “That’s something we can talk more about in the offseason and having bragging rights about who beat who,” Munchak said then. “But this is all about us vs. them.

    “Players are the ones who win the games.”

    This week, Munchak’s group of players will have the chance to take on Fisher’s players again, though the circumstances have changed. After Tennessee fired him in 2013, Munchak latched on with the Pittsburgh Steelers, returning to his roots as the offensive line coach. Fisher said Tuesday he didn’t consider finding a role for Munchak with the Rams after he came available.

    Munchak’s impact in Pittsburgh was immediate. The Steelers allowed 33 sacks last season, down from 42 the previous season. They boasted the league’s second-ranked offense and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger finished tied for the most passing yards in the NFL.

    Fisher wasn’t surprised.

    “He’s very, very thorough up front,” Fisher said. “You can just watch three or four plays of their offensive line and say to yourself, ‘That’s a Mike Munchak coached offensive line.’ They’re very sound. They’re very aggressive. They’re very patient. They finish. They rarely make mistakes.”

    With skill position stars like Roethlisberger, running back Le’Veon Bell and receiver Antonio Brown in place, the only missing piece was the offensive line to make it all go. But under Munchak, the Steelers have taken off and young players like guard David DeCastro have grown into some of the best at their positions.

    As the Rams prepare for the Steelers this week, Fisher said Munchak has a knack for deciphering ways to slow down opposing star defensive linemen. Which means that he and his staff will have to be on top of things when putting together this week’s game plan.

    “Mike’s really good — and what we have to adjust to is — Mike’s really good at taking special defensive players away, especially if you have rushers,” Fisher said. “I would expect they would pay a lot of attention to where (DT) Aaron (Donald) is and to where (DE) Rob (Quinn) lines up. They just don’t get their quarterback hit. Their game is about Ben buying time, buying time and moving around and making the off-schedule play down the field.”

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    Thanks for the fix, ER. And thanks for the heads up, ZN. I think I’ve had trouble in the past just dumping links into the post, so I started using the link and/ or img buttons at the top of the new post box.

    The only time you use the functions above is for IMG. For links and youtubes, you just dump it in there.

    in reply to: The Jeff Fisher Show, 9/22 #31062
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    Maybe I missed it but I didn’t hear Fisher say anything about Quick not being up to speed.

    He’s being patient, he says. He says it’s a numbers thing.

    The rest sounds like speculation. Even if it’s true and it may very well be–I’m not saying it isn’t. But Fisher could say that and I’d nod and go, okay–get it. Fisher doesn’t say that, at least not that I’ve heard or read. That’s why I find it odd. That doesn’t mean it is odd–but it just comes across that way as Fisher presents it.

    He did. People misread that comment because they leave part of it out and take it out of context. Here’s the part they miss.

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    http://theramshuddle.com/search/patient/

    He’s just going to have to be patient. He’s coming. He’s missed a lot of time. He’s coming.

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    Plus both JT and Wagoner have independently said yeah that’s the story.

    Here;s JT again:

    So it’s a tough spot for Quick. The only way to knock off the rust is to play, and right now he can’t get on the field.

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    After starting 0-2, this was bound to happen fairly quickly.

    NE, your link had quote marks on it for some reason, which prevented it from working.

    When posting a link, you just paste the link into the post box without any additions or extra actions. Just boom, drop it in there.

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    in reply to: The Jeff Fisher Show, 9/22 #31057
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    Well, I think Quick gives them something that Givens doesn’t–and what Givens gives them, Austin or Bailey can give them(although I’m not saying Bailey is as fast as Givens) and why not give Foles another type of weapon? Fisher says it’s not an injury question he says it’s a numbers question. He doesn’t say anything about rust. He says numbers. So is Fisher not telling us everything? If it’s just a numbers thing than he has the option to sit Givens. If it is rust that’s fine–but Fisher never says that.

    Quick doesn’t give them anything if he’s not ready to play.

    And btw Wagoner on 101 yesterday said the same thing about Quick JT did.

    He’s not up to speed yet.

    So far that’s Wagoner, Thomas, Fisher, and Quick all saying the same thing.

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    I get the rusty thing but sooner or later you have to let him play.

    Givens had a great pre-season but hasn’t had much of an impact in two games. Bailey and Austin already give you two smaller fast guys. Honestly, I’d like to see a pass or two tossed to Marquez in the game. In pre-season he showed he can break tackles. There has to be a way to take advantage of his talent–although I get he doesn’t really work on the 1st string offense during the week. But maybe put something in for him here or there.

    Of course he’s going to play. The question is, why after only 2 games you think that’s an issue, for a guy coming back from an injury they are first thought was career threatening. If nothing else the recovery was long and it took away from him practicing and getting reps at a 100% rate. So he’s not ready. I mean if he’s not ready, he’s not ready.

    And in terms of comparing Givens and Quick the way you do, that’s not really the issue if Quick is not ready.

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    He insists it isn’t an injury thing–it’s a numbers–special teams thing.

    It’s not either/or between “injury” or “special teams. According to everything eveyone has said about it, it doesn’t get down to that.

    He’s rusty, not in game shape, not up to speed—a long recovery and a lot of time spent without going through real 100% reps. THAT makes it look like it gets down to him and Givens, with Givens having been 100% in every practice.

    Here’s what JT says about it:

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jt-chat-922/

    JT: I’ve answered this one about a dozen times already over the past couple of weeks.. So I’ll try again. In returning from shoulder surgery, Quick played in only 30 plays in the preseason He’s rusty. He’s not injured. Not anymore. Fisher normally doesn’t dress a bunch of receivers. (Because he doesn’t have a pass-happy offense.) So in deciding who’s the 5th receiver to dress, Fisher has opted for Bradley Marquez because of his special teams value. Fisher is very big on special teams. Givens probably was the most impressive WR during the preseason, which I think has earned him the early-shot as the team’s 4th WR. So it’s a tough spot for Quick. The only way to knock off the rust is to play, and right now he can’t get on the field. After last week’s offensive struggles perhaps the situation gets re-evaluated this week. As for being the “No. 1” WR, I like Quick’s potential a lot, but I don’t think any Rams coach has referred to him as the No. 1 WR.

    in reply to: old & new power rankings…through Week 8 #31039
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    Okay, amended power rankings, though this is ESPN:

    Rams drop to No. 19 in ESPN NFL Power Rankings

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21653/rams-drop-to-no-19-in-espn-nfl-power-rankings

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams were one of the biggest risers in last week’s ESPN NFL Power Rankings, jumping eight spots from No. 22 to No. 14. That came after a big win against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 1 and was the second-largest jump in the league.

    Well, after a disappointing 24-10 loss to the Washington Redskins this week, the Rams took a pretty big hit as they fell five spots from No. 14 to No. 19. While Power Rankings are not an exact science, it’s here that you can see the Rams’ up-and-down history come to life. The rollercoaster nature of an inconsistent team from week to week is easy to see in the big leap one week and sizable drop the following week.

    Washington entered Sunday’s game at No. 29 in the Power Rankings and jumped six spots to No. 23 this week after beating the Rams.

    Now, the Rams find themselves with a string of three difficult games against teams ranked in the top four of this week’s Power Rankings. It starts this week against No. 4 Pittsburgh, followed by trips to play No. 3 Arizona and No. 2 Green Bay.

    Finding a win any of those games figures to be tough and it wouldn’t surprise if the Rams continue to tumble over the next few weeks. But if they can somehow find a way to win two of those three contests, they’ll likely soar on this list.

    in reply to: PFF grades #31020
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    Not ha ha funny. Just kinda surreal and disturbing
    funny.

    Things will get better.

    What’s wrong with having a good center?

    IMO Saffold is just a temporary glitch. He had a lot of time off during pre-season. Out of sync-ness?

    I agree with “getting better.” I expect at least 2 of the youngsters will settle down sooner rather than later.

    Some things I am reading, from coach’s 22 review type guys, puts more of the Washington game on Foles than the OL. I suppose it’s no accident that a team from the NFC east would know how to attack a former Eagles qb.

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    #9 Barnes +0.6

    Barnes is the 9th ranked center according to PFF grades.

    That’s interesting because all over the net during the summer there were people who complained that the Rams had no one at center. And it really was darn near universal. Turns out Barnes is top 10 so far. And that’s after playing Seattle’s tough 4/3 defense and then playing Washington’s Knighton, a tough 3/4 NG.

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    from off the net

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    PFF Rams O-LINE GRADES

    OT out of 70 Tackles Graded

    #47 Robinson -3.5
    #53 Havenstein -5.0

    OG out of 71 Guards Graded

    #37 Brown -2.6
    #69 Saffold -8.4

    C out of 32 Centers Graded

    #9 Barnes +0.6

    So there you have it, a big reason why we aren’t running well or passing well. I still believe a better scheme would result in better scores

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    from off the net

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    Oline Not as Bad

    I reviewed every play in the first half. Slow mo, multiple times each.

    I found a couple of plays where the line sucked. But more blame can be placed on the skill players, IMO. Offensive line was just okay – not horrible. What we saw, under closer inspection, was Foles panicking on many plays, rolling into pressure, holding the ball, etc. Sometimes I wonder if the announcers color our judgement. They were talking about the Rams inability to protect Foles. Upon review, I didn’t really see that. Bigger problem was Foles not stepping up, running backs dropping passes and not hitting holes, and Foles not being as accurate as last week.

    Here’s a quick hit of every play in the first half.

    Series 1.
    1. Good blocking, 1st down to Cook.
    2. Good blocking, Mason picks up 5.
    3. Good blocking, Mason stumbles and falls down into the back of lineman’s legs.
    4. Decent blocking, Foles holds on to the ball, steps up and knocks the ball out of his own hands.

    Series 2.
    1. Excellent blocking. Completion to Kendricks.
    2. Good blocking. Mason never gets out on the screen and Foles throws it away.
    3. Saffold has issues with his guy. Robinson looked good. Benny drops the pass.
    4. Saffold has issues. Might have been okay but Foles rolled out toward the pressure instead of stepping up.

    Series 3.
    1. Brown runs right by linebacker #56, who tackles Mason for 1 yard loss.
    2. Nice pocket on completion to Tavon, who seems to stumble a bit.
    3. 5 man rush. Robinson gets beat, but Foles could have stepped up.

    Series 4.
    1. Decent blocking as Tavon picks up 3 yards. Should have had more.
    2. Running play, Cook and Havenstein both get beat on the back side.
    3. Offsides, but Foles can’t capitalize on free play.
    4. Weird play where they had Cook as the lead blocker, and he gets blown up.

    Series 5
    1. Nice pocket. Foles misfires and Cook can’t grab it.
    2. Nice pocket on completion to Cook.
    3. Screen to Cook blown up by blitzer. Cook should have chipped him more.
    4. Right side terrible on 3rd and long.

    Series 6.
    1. Okay blocking on Tavon sweep for 1st down.
    2. Havenstein needs help and gets it from TE on long incompletion.
    3. Nice blocking on short completion.
    4. Nice pocket on misfire to Cook.

    Series 7.
    1. Okay blocking. Nobody open
    2. Blocking wasn’t bad. Redskins overstacked Rams right side, leaving Brown with nobody to block. Foles should have stepped up. Flushed too easy.
    3. Good blocking on pointless completion to end half.

    in reply to: RamView, 9/20/2015: Redskins 24, Rams 10 (Long) #31007
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    Agree with a lot from that one! Your are very critical of G.Wms….and here’s what Fisher said about that very issue:

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/fisher-921-transcript/

    Defensively, just too many explosive plays. We’ve got to fix our defense against the run. It’s a combination of things. It was a combination of gap integrity by the players. It was a combination of the staff putting them in some bad positions. Overall, we’re all going to take responsibility for that the defensive staff, the defensive players

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    Big plays, run defense missing for Rams in loss

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21604/big-plays-and-run-defense-missing-for-rams-in-loss

    LANDOVER, Md. — A look back at how the St. Louis Rams fared in three areas to watch in Sunday’s 24-10 loss to the Washington Redskins.

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    Rams quarterback Nick Foles lacked the protection needed to make big plays in Sunday’s loss to the Redskins.
    1. Chunk play priority: The Rams probably would have settled for even half of their big play output of a week ago when they posted eight plays of 20-plus yards against the Seattle Seahawks.

    But finding any positive yardage, let alone in big chunks, was too tall of an order for the Rams this week. The Rams had just one play over 20 yards against the Redskins, a 40-yard touchdown pass to receiver Kenny Britt. Quarterback Nick Foles didn’t have enough protection to take many shots deep as he often found himself running to buy time. On a day when yards were hard to come by anyway, a few more home run balls likely would have made a big difference.

    2. Containing Morris: In a very literal sense, Washington running back Alfred Morris didn’t do a ton of damage Sunday to the Rams. He finished with just 59 yards on 18 carries with 35 of those yards coming on one attempt. But the larger point of this category was about the Rams prioritizing stopping the run. And they didn’t. At all.

    Redskins running back Matt Jones chipped in 123 yards on 19 carries and scored twice as the Rams repeatedly found themselves struggling to stop the run. For the game, Washington finished with 182 yards on 37 carries, an average of 4.9 yards per attempt. With the Redskins in favorable third downs, the Rams only managed two sacks and Washington converted half of its 16 third downs.

    3. Eliminating mistakes: On the bright side, the Rams didn’t have any turnovers though Foles and running back Tre Mason each fumbled once, losing neither. Foles also didn’t throw any interceptions and the Rams recovered a fumble on their way to finishing with a plus-1 turnover margin.

    On the other side of the coin, the Rams had too many mistakes in other areas to overcome, namely the return of an old issue in the form of penalties. The Rams had nine infractions for 80 yards on the day, none more important than an offsides on defensive lineman Ethan Westbrooks in the fourth quarter.

    With 8:56 to go, the Rams had Washington facing third-and-13 at its 20 and trailed by just a touchdown. But Westbrooks jumped the gun to make it third-and-8. On the next play, the Redskins converted with a 10-yard completion and went on to score a touchdown to put the game away. It was just one of many miscues on the day but it effectively put an end to the Rams’ hopes of a comeback.

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    Ogletree has career-high 18 tackles vs. Washington

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/ogletree-has-career-high-tackles-vs-washington/article_55d9ca05-28e3-5041-9100-4cb14c09cdff.html

    One of the few bright spots in the Rams’ 24-10 loss to Washington was the play of outside linebacker Alec Ogletree. The third-year linebacker registered a career-high 18 tackles Sunday, including one tackle for loss.

    The 18 tackles marked the highest total for a Rams defender since London Fletcher recorded 21 tackles on Sept. 23, 2001 in a 30-26 victory at San Francisco. That contest was the first game following the 9-11 terrorists attacks, with games the previous weekend postponed.

    But in a game in which the Rams gave up six plays of 21 yards or more, Ogletree wasn’t perfect. He was beaten in coverage by Washington tight end Jordan Reed on a third-and-5 conversion that covered 29 yards in the fourth quarter.

    Later in the drive, which culminated in a victory-clinching touchdown run by Matt Jones with 2 minutes 38 seconds to play, Ogletree was penalized 15 yards for grabbing the facemask of Washington running back Alfred Morris.

    Ogletree was the Rams’ only defender to register double-digits in tackles against Washington according to coaches’ review of game film. Defensive tackle Michael Brockers continued his strong early-season play with nine tackles, including one tackle for loss. He also had a quarterback hit on the pass rush.

    The leading tackler in the secondary, with seven stops, was strong safety T.J. McDonald. McDonald also had a fumble recovery.

    With Washington quarterback Kirk Cousins getting the ball out quickly, the Rams’ pressure numbers were way down. They had only three hurries, one QB hit, and two sacks. The two sacks were split four ways: Chris Long and Nick Fairley split one sack; Long and Aaron Donald split the other. Last week against Seattle, the Rams had 13 hurries, six QB hits, and six sacks.

    Middle linebacker James Laurinaitis had six tackles Sunday, giving him 914 for his career and leaving him one tackle shy of the franchise record set by Hall of Famer Merlin Olsen from 1962-76.

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    Jeff Gordon’s Rams-Seahawks Report Card

    http://www.stltoday.com/gallery/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/rams-report-card-week-vs-washington/collection_9323e638-3aed-504e-827e-9cc94357029b.html#0

    Report Card: F’s and D’s all over the field

    Quarterback C-
    Nick Foles had one shining moment Sunday. He sold the fake end-around hand-off to the Washington defense, then lofted the ball to WR Kenny Britt for a 40-yard TD. Otherwise he had a tough day. His teammates kept dropping passes and Washington’s steady pressure forced him out of the pocket and away from his comfort zone. He finished 17 for 32 for just 150 yards and the one score.

    Running Backs D
    A poor offensive tone was set early when Benny Cunningham dropped a simple swing pass from Foles, running before he caught it. He delivered another blatant drop in the fourth quarter with the Rams in desperation mode. This unit got nothing on the ground until the second half, when Tre Mason finally broke free for a couple of first downs. But Mason narrowly avoided disaster early in the fourth quarter, fumbling deep in his own zone. Fortunately teammate Stedman Bailey recovered the ball.

    Receivers C
    Kenny Britt made the only big play for the Rams, getting wide, wide open on a fake end-around play for the 40-yard TD. Tavon Austin ran the ball effectively, gaining 40 yards on four carries. But the group caught just four passes during the game, despite Foles’ best effort to extend some plays with his feet. There weren’t a whole lot of Rams finding openings in the Washington secondary.

    Tight Ends D
    The group looked good early, with Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks catching first-down conversion passes. Cook finished with a team-high five catches for 47 yards. But Kendricks (false start) and Cook (personal foul, facemask) were flagged for untimely penalties in the third quarter and this duo offered minimal help in the run game.

    Offensive Line F
    Rookie OT Rob Havenstein had predictable trouble containing sackmaster Ryan Kerrigan, who beat him with a variety of moves. The line allowed Washington to sustain pressure on Foles for much of the game, forcing Foles to flee the pocket repeatedly. This line also failed to create much of a push in the run game, limiting Rams running backs to just 26 yards on eight carries.

    Defensive Line D
    DE Robert Quinn stripped Washington RB Matt Jones of the ball on a third-quarter play to (briefly) reverse the game’s momentum. DT Aaron Donald was in the backfield a lot, blowing up running backs and hassling Redskins QB Kirk Cousins. DT Nick Fairley and DE Chris Long teamed for a late sack. But the defensive front was called for a couple of offside penalties (Donald and Ethan Westbrooks) and it allowed Washington to roll for 182 yards on the ground.

    Linebackers F
    OLB Alec Ogletree had another busy game, making eight tackles according to press box statistics. But he also had a costly facemask penalty in the fourth quarter to facilitate Washington’s scoring drive. MLB James Laurinaitis got credit for four tackles and five assists. But he also had rough moments, such as overrunning an Alfred Morris cutback that resulted in a 34-yard gain for Washington. When the game was on the line, this unit couldn’t make stops. Its play helped Redskins RB Matt Jones bulldoze up and down the field like Jim Brown.

    Secondary D
    CB Janoris Jenkins wanted an offensive pass interference call on Pierre Garcon’s TD reception. He didn’t get it. Nor did he cover Ryan Grant on an earlier 35-yard reception. He had a rough day that was capped by injury. S Rodney McLeod failed to support on Matt Jones’ 39-yard TD run, getting caught inside and giving up the sideline. On the plus side, safety T.J. McDonald recovered the Jones fumble forced by Quinn. CB Trumaine Johnson made a great read on another pass toward Grant and nearly earned the interception.

    Special Teams A
    K Greg Zuerlein crushed a 52-yard FG to finally put the Rams on the board in the third quarter. He also did his usual great job on kickoffs, hammering one touchback after another. S Maurice Alexander was noticeable on the punt teams, making a great tackle in coverage and nearly blocking a kick on the other. P Johnny Hekker got some extra practice thanks to penalty related re-kicks.

    Coaching F
    The Rams appeared to be tactically and emotionally unprepared in the first half as Washington raced to a 17-0 lead. A few adjustments triggered a brief comeback, but Washington went back to imposing its will on the Rams. Jeff Fisher’s team didn’t come close to building upon its exciting opening victory over Seattle. Such are the losses that keep teams out of the playoffs season after season.

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    Rams dominated by Redskins

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-dominated-by-redskins/article_d54f4e3b-01cb-5868-afc3-c92c4572f62a.html

    LANDOVER, MD. • The Rams have had a few trademark wins under coach Jeff Fisher, only to come back the next week or later in the same season and lose to a very beatable opponent.

    Last season, they squashed Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos, only to get routed by a 6-10 New York Giants squad.

    In 2013, there were marquee victories over Indianapolis and New Orleans but also losses to Atlanta and Tennessee, teams that went a combined 11-21 that season.

    In 2012, Fisher’s inaugural year with the Rams, there was as an overtime victory and a tie against Super Bowl-bound San Francisco. But also losses to perpetually mediocre Miami and a 6-10 New York Jets squad.

    It happened again Sunday at FedEx Field. Fresh off an attention-grabbing overtime victory against Seattle on opening day, the Rams came out flat against Washington — about as flat as can be in falling behind 17-0 at the half.

    The team’s hopes of starting 2-0 for the first time since 2001 never got off the launching pad in a 24-10 loss to Washington.

    “We wanted to go 2-0 bad,” Rams safety T.J. McDonald said. “I’d be lying if I said we didn’t. We didn’t play good enough to get it.”

    Not even close to good enough in the opening two quarters. The Rams have played a lot of bad football over the past decade, and Sunday’s first half was right up there with the worst in terms of ugly play.

    Besides trailing by 17 points, the Rams were outgained 239 yards to 72 in the half. In the parity-driven NFL, it’s not supposed to happen that way. It marked the first time since Oct. 2, 2011 that Washington (1-1) has held an opponent scoreless in the first half.

    “We came out a little sluggish,” Rams tight end Lance Kendricks said in understatement. “Especially on the road, you’ve got to really come out with some urgency.”

    The Rams were anything but urgent Sunday. They got gashed for one big play after another in the opening half by a Washington offense that managed only 10 points in a season-opening loss to Miami.

    Running backs Alfred Morris and Matt Jones had runs of 35 and 39 yards, respectively, through gaping holes in the Rams’ defense on Washington’s first touchdown drive. Jones’ 39-yard run accounted for the TD.

    A 35-yard reception by wide receiver Ryan Grant on a play in which he got behind cornerback Janoris Jenkins set up a field goal on Washington’s next possession for a 10-0 lead with 53 seconds still to play in the opening quarter.

    Washington’s next TD drive included a 25-yard run by Jones, the rookie from Florida. On a third-and-goal play from the Rams’ 4, Washington quarterback Kirk Cousins threw a TD pass to Pierre Garcon, who beat Jenkins on the play. Jenkins complained of a push-off, but it really wasn’t flagrant enough to merit a call by referee Ed Hochuli’s crew.

    And that was pretty much the ballgame. A Washington team that was beaten 24-0 by St. Louis here last season and managed only 206 yards in the process had 17 points and the aforementioned 239 yards by intermission this time.

    The Rams finally showed a pulse in the third quarter, putting up 10 points to make it a one-score contest. But overall, this was all too easy for Washington — way too easy, actually — against the highly touted Rams defense.

    It was pretty basic football. Washington controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and controlled the clock, blocking and tackling better than the Rams. Sometimes it’s not all that complicated.

    “We knew that in order for us to win the game we were going to have to run it, stop the run, and get off the field on third down,” Fisher said. “And we didn’t do any one of those with any consistency. That was the difference in the ballgame.”

    Jones finished with 123 yards rushing and two touchdowns, on 19 carries, averaging 6.5 yards per attempt. He outshone Morris, a three-time 1,000-yard rusher who finished with 59 yards on 18 carries (for a modest 3.3 average).

    “He surprised a few guys who didn’t realize how big and fast he was all at once,” Rams defensive end Robert Quinn said of Jones, who stands 6 feet 2 and weighs 231 pounds. “But at the same time, I don’t think an NFL player can catch another guy off guard. They’re here for a reason. He found some holes in our defense and he ran through ’em.”

    All told, Washington rushed for 182 yards, getting all but 50 of that total by halftime. Washington was eight for 16 on third-down conversions, compared to the Rams’ feeble two for 12. The home team dominated time of possession, with 37 minutes 44 seconds of ball control compared to the Rams’ 22:16.

    “They out-executed us on third down, and that’s a big play during the game, just keeping those drives alive,” Rams quarterback Nick Foles said. “We didn’t do a good job of that today.”

    A week earlier, after the big win over Seattle, the Rams were talking about the need for week-to-week consistency in execution and performance. They were doing so almost immediately after that triumph.

    “As you know, our biggest problem has always been being consistent,” guard Rodger Saffold said after that 34-31 win. “We win one, lose one. Lose two, come back win two. Lose the third. You know what I mean?”

    We know exactly what you mean. But recognizing the problem and solving it remain two distinct things for the Rams. They have managed back-to-back victories only five times during Fisher’s tenure. And they have won as many as three in a row only once — defeating Arizona, San Francisco and Buffalo in succession in 2012.

    A 52-yard field goal by Greg Zuerlein, followed by a 40-yard TD pass from Foles to Britt, cut Washington’s lead to 17-10 midway through the third quarter. Quinn forced a Jones fumble that was recovered by McDonald, setting up the Foles-to-Britt score.

    But just as quickly, the Rams’ offense shifted back into neutral and stayed there. Washington finally put the game away with an excruciating 12-play, 77-yard TD drive that chewed up nearly 7 minutes of the fourth quarter.

    Washington faced third-and-13, third-and-5, and third-and-8 situations on the drive, converting each time. Jones’ 3-yard sweep around left end gave Washington a victory-clinching 24-10 lead with 2:38 to play in the fourth.

    And left the Rams groping for answers— again.

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    Rams are, well, the Rams again

    Benjamin Hochman

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-rams-are-well-the-rams-again/article_ac3f0aa2-e4b3-5781-be1d-55bbbd06c9fa.html

    LANDOVER, MD. • They call him Pot Roast, and he was hungry.

    Terrance Knighton, he who scares scales, was ravenous for Rams, this after St. Louis beat his Broncos last year … and shut out Washington last season, Knighton’s new team in ’15.

    “We saw some things on film that we could take advantage of — we knew if we stop the run, it would be tough,” the nose tackle told me Sunday, after he and the D-line devoured the Rams, winning 24-10. “… We know what type of team they think they are; they’re going to come in, be physical, be frontrunners, and it’s a famous quote: ‘Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.’ That’s the attitude we took. …

    “Coach (Jay) Gruden got up in front of the team Wednesday and showed St. Louis tape, showed how physical they are, showing how they beat Seattle and laid it on our guys last year, running reverses when they’re up 21 points. So we took it personal.

    On Sunday, Washington’s defense played with an appetite; the Rams’ offense played full. Satisfied.

    Last week, I watched Nick Foles and the offense shower the Seattle secondary. It looked to me like the Rams’ offense was on to something. Nope. Here at FedEx Field, the Rams were the Rams again.

    The offense took more steps back than Foles under pressure.

    They weren’t who they thought they were.

    “Sometimes with the way things are going, you kind of get ahead of yourself,” offensive lineman Rodger Saffold said, when asked about the Rams being too high after beating Seattle. “But the preparation was there and the work was there — we didn’t play the way we practiced.”

    So who are these guys? I suppose they’re somewhere between the team that defeated the defending conference champs, and the team here in DC that looked defeated.

    The Rams were so deflated, the league might have to call Ted Wells to investigate.

    Now look, I don’t think the Rams are this bad. They still can win eight total games. But Sunday, the offense fed into the belly of the beast(s): Pot Roast Knighton, Stephen Paea, Ryan Kerrigan gobbling up the Rams’ rushers, who finished with 67 yards. In the whole game!

    The Rams’ best running back performance might have been the pregame drills by Todd Gurley, who didn’t play but is “week to week, and we thought he had a great week (in practice),” coach Jeff Fisher said.

    At least Tre Mason returned, so he could take some of the heat otherwise thrown toward the inept Isaiah Pead.

    Here’s what frustrated me most about Foles: He looked as if he was playing not to lose, even when the Rams were losing. A few times, he settled on throwing shorter passes, and even some of those were dropped. I know: If you don’t have a run game going, the offense isn’t itself. Then throw in the fact that the Rams couldn’t throw effective screen passes. But man, they converted just two of 12 third downs.

    “We knew in order for us to win the game, we would have to run it,” Fisher said. “We missed a lot of opportunities. But I can’t say it’s Nick or it was the receivers, or a breakdown in protection. We’ll have to look at it. But I think everybody in that locker room when you talk to ’em wishes they would have played better, and that would include Nick.”

    The easy narrative that we’ll all hear Monday is that the Rams were just too confident after the win against Seattle. They thought they’d matured, they thought they’d taken a step, but then — déjà vu (or, I suppose, déjà boooooo).

    But I’ve got to bring up at least one wacky stat, per Bill Barnwell of Grantland.com. In 2014, the final 10 teams that played Seattle in the regular season and had a game the following week, lost the following week. They call it the “Seattle Hangover”: A team becomes so battered by the bruising boom of Seattle’s legion, that the next week they’re not recovered. The Rams had it last season — remember the loss at Kansas City? — and supposedly they had it again Sunday.

    Asked about this, a passionate Fisher said: “It’s fair to assume that, but we guarded against that and had a great week of practice.”

    Last weekend, perhaps prematurely, Foles praised his offensive line following its showing against the Seahawks. It was cool to hear: the Rams quarterback speaking as a leader, showing his young linemen that he’s behind them, and not just when he’s under center.

    Well, now Foles has a new test as a leader: restoring confidence in his precocious offensive line while also restoring confidence in himself. Let’s not forget, the Rams’ offense only had one play for more than 20 yards Sunday.

    Pot Roast and the defense didn’t just feast on the Rams.

    They poured gravy on them.

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    Rams show up flat, get run over by Redskins

    AP

    http://www.bnd.com/sports/nfl/st-louis-rams/article35918955.html#storylink=cpy

    So here’s a nearly certain way to beat the Rams: Get the NFL to schedule a game against St. Louis right after it faces NFC West rival Seattle.

    Dating to 2005, the Rams are 2-15 in regular-season games immediately following a matchup with the Seahawks.

    The latest such loss came Sunday, when the Rams fell into a big hole, failed repeatedly on third down, gave up 123 yards and two touchdowns to Washington rookie running back Matt Jones, and were beaten by the Redskins 24-10.

    No matter what the numbers say, St. Louis coach Jeff Fisher insisted his club did not have any sort of letdown after its 34-31 overtime victory over the two-time reigning NFC champion Seahawks in Week 1.

    “Not at all,” Fisher said. “We had a really good week. I mean, it’s fair to assume that, but we guarded against it and we had a great week of practice.”

    Perhaps. But the Rams (1-1) came out flat-as-can-be against Washington (1-1), trailing 17-0 at halftime. It’s the first time the Redskins shut out an opponent over the first two quarters since an Oct. 2, 2011, game against St. Louis.

    Nick Foles was out of synch, overthrowing receivers, underthrowing receivers and simply flat-out throwing the ball nowhere near receivers. He finished 17 for 32 for 150 yards and said he was OK after a defender rolled up on his lower left leg on the Rams’ final drive.

    “He missed a lot of opportunities,” Fisher said, “but I can’t say (if) it’s Nick, or his receiver or if it was a breakdown in protection.”

    Foles’ take?

    “I know it’s simple,” he said, “but we just did not execute.”

    The Rams’ first six possessions each ended with a punt, and the seventh — which marked their first trip across midfield — petered out when the first-half clock expired.

    In all, St. Louis was 2 for 12 on third-down conversions.

    “We knew that in order for us to win the game we were going to have to run it, and stop the run, and get off the field on third down,” Fisher said, “and we didn’t do any one of those with any consistency.”

    Jones, a third-round draft pick out of Florida, scored from 39 yards in the first quarter, and from 3 with about 2 1/2 minutes left in the fourth.

    “He ran like his hair was on fire today,” Redskins left tackle Trent Williams said.

    The Redskins finished with a 182-67 edge in rushing yards.

    “If you don’t stop the run against that team, it’s going to be a long day, because that’s what they do well,” Rams defensive lineman Chris Long said. “Our strength — rushing the passer — we never got to do it.”

    The Rams only had two sacks, after getting six against Seattle.

    Tavon Austin had a team-high 40 yards on four carries for the Rams, but the Redskins kicked the ball away from him on punts, never allowing the speedy returner to try to take one back.

    Tre Mason’s season debut was a quiet one, with seven carries for 26 yards, while first-round draft pick Todd Gurley was inactive again as he returns from knee surgery.

    And yet, with all their problems, the Rams pulled within 17-10 in the third quarter when Foles connected with Kenny Britt on a 40-yard touchdown pass two plays after Jones fumbled.

    Kirk Cousins — 23 of 27 for 203 yards, one TD and zero interceptions — led a 12-play, 77-yard drive that ate up more than 6 1/2 minutes of the fourth quarter and was capped by Jones’ second score, basically sealing the victory.

    “We feel,” Mason said, “like we are a better team than that.”

    Notes

    When St. Louis beat Washington 24-0 last season, Fisher tweaked the Redskins during the pregame coin toss, sending out six players acquired via the trade that allowed Washington to pick Robert Griffin III second overall in the 2012 draft. This time, Fisher went with captains such as Foles; Griffin, meanwhile, was not even in uniform, inactive as the No. 3 QB behind Cousins and Colt McCoy.

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    yeah. that’s just not going to get it done.

    All true. But then, imagine this…they DO have 35-30 carries, the backs ARE productive, AND they have 40 yards from Austin on 4 carries. Pretty good.

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    Jeff Fisher Says Rams Have Themselves to Blame for Loss to Redskins

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    Okay, to look at the brighter side, sort of, here are things the Fisher Rams do not do tremendously well:

    1. Road games (8-1-15 on the road last 3 years)

    2. Following up a big win against a tough division opponent with a consistent effort. Like the Jets after SF in 2012.

    3. Blocking 3/4 defenses.

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    Rams Suffer 24-10 Setback at Washington

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Rams-Suffer-24-10-Setback-at-Washington/9512981c-4fcb-4c2c-bb07-bc449db64fea

    LANDOVER, Md. — The Rams had a disappointing outing offensively and defensively, dropping their second contest of the season to Washington, 24-10.

    The home team used a strong rushing attack to control the ball and the clock, amassing 368 total yards, including 182 yards rushing. And it was rookie Matt Jones leading the way for Washington, racking up 123 yards on 19 carries with two touchdowns.

    On the other hand, the visitors mustered only 67 yards rushing and 213 yards of total offense, gaining only 11 first downs. The time of possession battle was lopsided as well, with St. Louis holding the ball for only 22:16.

    Washington got on the board first with a touchdown on its second possession. Poor run defense from the Rams allowed the home team to get into the end zone in just three plays. Running back Alfred Morris took a handoff 35 yards to the left for a big gain. A play later Jones ran it over the left side for a 39-yard touchdown, putting Washington up 7-0.

    Washington kicker Dustin Hopkins hit a 46-yard field goal to make it 10-0, but the home team wasn’t done in the first half. After an offensive holding penalty, the Redskins had a 1st-and-15 at the St. Louis 48. But Jones wiped that out with a 25-yard run to the right, putting Washington in scoring position at the visitors’ 23. A few plays later, Kirk Cousins hit Pierre Garçon with a short pass to the left for a touchdown, giving Washington a 17-0 lead.

    The Rams had a tough time moving the ball throughout the first half, finishing the first two quarters with only 72 total yards. Their best chance to score came after a Washington 18-yard punt gave St. Louis the ball at their opponents’ 45. Nick Foles completed a pass to Jared Cook for 14 yards on 3rd-and-10, but time expired before the Rams could get up to the line to kill the clock.

    The defense got back on track to begin the second half, forcing a three-and-out. Aaron Donald and Lamarcus Joyner had key tackles for loss on the drive.

    Washington’s punt put the Rams at their own 32, but the offense got a couple quick first downs. Tavon Austin got the possession started with a 16-yard end around to the left, and Tre Mason followed that up with a 13-yard run up the middle.

    Though the drive stalled with a false start penalty, a 9-yard pass from Foles to Benny Cunningham on third down put St. Louis in field-goal range. Greg Zuerlein nailed his 52-yard attempt to get the Rams on the board, making the score 17-3.

    The defense then came up with a big turnover, as Robert Quinn punched the ball out on a Jones run, giving St. Louis the ball at its own 49. Mason got the possession going with an 11-yard run. And then Foles dropped back with a play-action fake, and hit Kenny Britt in the end zone for a 40-yard touchdown. The scoring strike cut into the lead once again, with St. Louis down 17-10.

    But Washington got back on the board in the fourth quarter, aided by a few Rams penalties. A 3rd-and-13 situation turned into a 3rd-and-8 due to a neutral-zone infraction penalty. Cousins converted that with a 10-yard pass to Chris Thompson. Later in the drive, St. Louis committed a facemask penalty to put Washington in the red zone on the 15. A few plays later, Jones ran around the left side for a 3-yard touchdown, putting the game out of reach.

    With the loss, the Rams fall to 1-1 on the young season. They’ll be back in action next week at home against the Steelers

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    So, what happened?

    Both Washington lines came to play.

    The Rams DL showed up in spurts.

    The Rams OL got manhandled.

    Really, my opinion? That’s the game right there.

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    Now we’re waiting to hear if Foles was hurt.

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    Well we know they CAN.

    I vote that they WILL.

    I am betting on this being they year a young team gets over its week-to-week inconsistency disease.

    One thing I saw that fuels that belief—remember the chippy Rams who would get distracted by their own edginess? There was barely a sign of that last Sunday. It was just focused football.

    ..

    So much for that prediction.

    I want the chippy Rams back.

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