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    hmmmm…

    Dickerson watched the Rams’ Week 4 game against Arizona alongside fellow Hall of Fame running back Marcus Allen, and they each saw one legitimate hole for Gurley to attack. During the Week 2 game against Seattle, Dickerson got a text from another Hall of Fame running back, Thurman Thomas, who wrote: “Man, that line is going to get Todd Gurley killed.”

    And it’s not what it seems, IMO.

    Something happened but I don’t think it;s what anyone thinks it is.

    ….

    in reply to: Gurley still has 'nowhere to run' #55271
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    They simply can’t run block.

    And partly it’s Gurley too.

    If the yards per rush improves at all in the next few games, I will be putting the finishing touches on a theory I have about what happened.

    And the issue won’t be personnel inadequacies and it won’t be coaching.

    But I have to see how much they improve before the theory gets glazed and kilned.

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    Rams’ Goff continues waiting game

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    http://www.vcstar.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2016/10/14/rams-goff-continues-waiting-game/92074246/

    As other rookie quarterbacks like Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott continue to lead their teams to wins, Los Angeles Rams rookie Jared Goff waits for his chance to show what he can do.

    Five weeks into the season, the league’s No. 1 overall pick has yet to play a down. Goff said he feels no frustration over seeing other rookies play while he continues to sit.

    “Every situation’s different,” Goff said Wednesday. “All these guys that are doing well right now, I’m very happy for. Most of them, I’m good friends with. They’ve done a good job.”

    As the team begins its two-week road trip against the Lions in Detroit on Sunday followed by a trip to London to face the New York Giants, there’s no indication from head coach Jeff Fisher and offensive coordinator Rob Boras that they plan to insert Goff into the lineup soon.

    But both emphasized they believe that Goff is making progress.

    “He’s getting his offensive reps in every period with the exception – on Friday it’s kind of hard. But on Wednesday, Thursday, he’s getting his reps,” Fisher said. “And then he’s running the scout team; the scout team is completely different than our offensive reps.

    “But he’s doing fine, he has a good feel for what we’re doing. I think he’s improving, he’s learned a lot and, with each passing week, he’s getting better.”

    Boras echoed Fisher’s sentiment, saying Goff continues to improve and seems more comfortable with the offense.

    “A lot of the times, you understand how a person is learning by the questions that he’s asking, and he’s not asking rookie questions anymore,” Boras said. “He’s starting to ask those more advanced, if you will, say the 301- or 401-type question. For me, it starts there.

    “Then, obviously, just watching him going against our defense and his footwork in the pocket and eliminating the turnovers. With the reps that he does get with the first unit, those same sorts of things. He’s putting a lot of work in as if he is the starter, which I know is not an easy thing to do, especially for a young player. I think that says a lot about his maturity as a 21-year-old.”

    Goff said feels like he’s made steady progress since his first day of rookie camp. He said there wasn’t an “ah-ha” moment where things suddenly clicked.

    “I don’t feel like I have gone backward,” Goff said. “Seems like every day, every week has gotten more natural. Things are more second nature, so I am feeling good.”

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    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-practicereport/Practice-Report-1014-The-Challenges-of-a-Long-Road-Trip/656300e7-19b4-4051-b8c9-02ea929191da

    INJURY REPORT

    The Rams got four of their five players previously listed on the injury report this week back on the field on Friday.

    Defensive tackle Michael Brockers (hip), defensive end William Hayes (ankle), defensive end Robert Quinn (shoulder), and right guard Cody Wichmann (ankle) all participated in practice on a limited basis. All four of them are listed as questionable for Sunday.

    Cornerback Trumaine Johnson (ankle) did not practice all week and has been ruled out for Sunday.

    Wide receiver Brian Quick (calf) was added to the injury report on Friday after participating on a limited basis. He is questionable for Sunday.

    For Detroit, starters tight end Eric Ebron (ankle/knee), linbacker DeAndre Levy (knee/quad), defensive tackle Haloti Ngata (shoulder), and running back Theo Riddick (ankle) have been ruled out.

    Also notable on the report, defensive end Ezekiel Ansah (ankle), wide receiver Anquan Boldin (ankle), guard Laken Tomlinson (neck), and defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson (shoulder) are all listed as questionable for the contest.

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    Rams’ defensive line may be healing up

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/31249/rams-defensive-line-may-be-healing-up

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — The Los Angeles Rams will be without their primary cornerback on Sunday, but they’re hopeful that their defensive line is getting healthier.

    Robert Quinn, Michael Brockers and Will Hayes, the three starters who sat out Sunday’s 30-19 loss to the Bills, all practiced on a limited basis on Friday and were all listed as questionable heading into the Rams’ Week 6 game from Ford Field against the Lions.

    “Each passing day they’re getting better,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “Obviously we need them, especially against this group.”

    The Rams yielded almost 200 rushing yards to the Bill with three starters on the D-line sitting out. Richard Mackson/USA TODAY Sports
    The Rams are facing a Matthew Stafford-led offense that features the NFL’s leading receiver (Marvin Jones) and will look to expose a secondary that will be without Trumaine Johnson, who’s nursing an ankle sprain that could keep him out for several weeks. Hayes has missed the last two games with an ankle injury, one that popped up in Week 3 from Tampa. He was initially hopeful of returning at some point between this coming Sunday and after the bye week, which is Nov. 6.

    “I doubt I’ll go Sunday,” Hayes said, “but next Sunday [against the Giants from London] looks really good.”

    Quinn, limited to seven starts last year, is listed with a shoulder injury and was not available to speak with the media. Brockers is dealing with a hip injury that flared up in the days leading up to the most recent game, but said he’s “really hopeful” of playing on Sunday. He doesn’t want to watch his defense be so shorthanded again.

    “You feel like you could’ve made a play here, there, in your mind, running through the plays during the game,” Brockers said of having three starting defensive linemen out on Sunday, a game that saw the Bills rush for 193 yards. “It wasn’t a good feeling.”

    “It’s discouraging knowing you can’t help your team out,” Hayes added. “You’re a competitor.”

    With Johnson out, the Rams will start E.J. Gaines and Troy Hill on the outside, with Lamarcus Joyner maintaining his spot as the inside corner. Dwayne Gratz, claimed off waivers from the Jaguars earlier this week, will be in a reserve role.

    Johnson is tied for first in the NFL with the Raiders’ David Amerson with seven pass breakups, a measure by ESPN Stats & Information that combines passes defended in coverage with those batted at the line of scrimmage. His 16 interceptions are tied for the fifth-most in the NFL since 2012. Johnson has one of those this year, but his tackle helped force another and he could’ve easily had two more in the Week 4 game from University of Phoenix Stadium.

    “He’s a really good football player, and he’s grown every single year that I’ve had a chance to be around him,” Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. “But Troy’s played well, and EJ’s played well, and Lamarcus has played well. … The next man up has to be ready to play. If you’ve made a team in the National Football League, you’re pretty good. So, it’s up to us now to make sure we highlight your strengths and maybe hide your weaknesses. And we all have weaknesses. Trumaine does, Robert Quinn does, Aaron Donald does. But let’s make sure that they get a chance to do the things that they’re really good at. And the other guys that are playing on those spots, we’ll try to highlight those things.”

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    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-practicereport/Practice-Report-1014-The-Challenges-of-a-Long-Road-Trip/656300e7-19b4-4051-b8c9-02ea929191da

    LAST TIME AGAINST DETROIT…

    When the Rams faced the Lions in Week 14 last year, they were in strong need of a victory. They had just lost their fifth game in a row, and Fisher made the call to dismiss offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti in favor of Rob Boras.

    Starting with that game — a 21-14 victory over Detroit — Boras did enough over the last four weeks to keep the job for the 2016 season.

    “It was a blur, but it was a great win for the organization, just like anytime you’re on a losing streak,” Boras said. “It was exciting, it was nerve-racking for all of us, but the players found a way and responded and played really well in that game.”

    That game also represented Keenum’s second start of the season, after he’d missed the last two games due to injury. Again, it was a contest where Keenum began showing enough to maintain his standing as QB-1 through this season.

    Plus, defensive tackle Aaron Donald was named Defensive Player of the Week after racking up 3.0 sacks, six quarterback hits, and three tackles for loss. And running back Todd Gurley broke out for 140 yards and two touchdowns on just 16 carries.

    “Any time you watch film like that, it’s hard not to remember some of those good feelings,” Keenum said. “So I think it’s a good thing to watch some of those good plays and see what we did well, learn from the things we didn’t do well.”

    Of course, it’s a different year and both teams are different. The Lions, for example, no longer have a Hall of Fame-caliber wideout in Calvin Johnson after his retirement this offseason.

    “It was a pretty good game,” Gurley said, “but it was last year. I wish I was doing what I was doing last year, but I’m not. So just have to focus on this game.”

    in reply to: Fisher, Williams … 10/14 … transcripts #55258
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    i’ve seriously gotta wonder about the offensive coaching staff. are they doing their job?

    Struggling though doesn’t mean not doing your job.

    I have my own theories about why they’re struggling.

    But there are actually good signs on offense too. The receivers for example have not been this good since I can’t remember when.

    I look forward to when it all straightens out and comes together.

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    Here’s another one.

    Keenum, qb rating.
    Season: 75.4
    Last 3 games: 88.7

    I like that…I still think he needs to get that up a touch. I’m discounting the first couple of games so I kinda appreciate this 3 week results reporting.

    The key is gonna be turnovers for CK and the team in general, IMO.

    When CK has a qb rating of 85 or better, Rams win (5-0).

    When he is under that, they are 1-4.

    in reply to: Political comedy vidz #55248
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    Ha. I edited the ‘link’ back in before i saw you had edited it out.

    If that makes any sense.

    w
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    Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten us into

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    in reply to: Political comedy vidz #55245
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    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnW-eqNJDo

    Sorry this is an ongoing Ted Lecture Series on posting at the huddle.

    There are never problems with vids, just articles. So I took the “link” thing out this time.

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    Here’s another one.

    Keenum, qb rating.
    Season: 75.4
    Last 3 games: 88.7

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    Los Angeles Rams Injury Report

    WR Brian Quick (calf) limited participation QST
    G Cody Wichmann (ankle) limited participation QST
    DE Will Hayes (ankle) limited participation QST
    DE Robert Quinn (shoulder) limited participation QST
    DT Michael Brockers (hip) limited participation QST
    CB Trumaine Johnson (ankle) DNP OUT

    Detroit Lions Injury Report

    RB Theo Riddick (ankle) DNP OUT
    RB Dwayne Washington (ankle) limited QST
    WR Anquan Boldin (ankle) full participation QST
    TE Eric Ebron (ankle/knee) DNP OUT
    G Laken Tomlinson (neck) limited participation QST
    G Larry Warford (hip) DNP QST
    DE Ezekiel Ansah (ankle) limited participation QST
    DT A’Shawn Robinson (shoulder) limited participation QST
    DT Haloti Ngata (shoulder) DNP OUT
    LB DeAndre Levy (knee/quad) DNP OUT
    S Don Carey (ribs) full participation QST

    *The Rams did not practice on Thursday, but they still provided an injury report based on estimates of participation.

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    Another Lions lineman injured ahead of matchup with Rams’ Aaron Donald

    http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/10/lions_lose_another_interior_of.html#incart_river_index

    ALLEN PARK — The Detroit Lions offensive line has been hit by another injury.

    One day after left guard Laken Tomlinson was sidelined at practice because of a neck injury, right guard Larry Warford missed Thursday’s workout with a hip issue. He was also limited on Wednesday by the injury.

    Tomlinson was able to return to practice on Thursday, but both guards are clearly dealing with something heading into Sunday’s game against Aaron Donald — the NFL’s most-feared interior defensive lineman — and the Los Angeles Rams.

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    Lions injury report: Theo Riddick, Eric Ebron still out

    Boldin and Tomlinson return to practice, while Larry Warford sat out Thursday.

    http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/10/13/13275166/lions-injury-report-theo-riddick-eric-ebron-still-out-larry-warford-ezekiel-ansah-haloti-ngata

    Ezekiel Ansah remains an outside possibility to return soon, but the Lions were without running back Theo Riddick for a second straight practice. Tight end Eric Ebron remained out as well as the Lions continue to battle with injuries at numerous key positions.

    Dwayne Washington was out from practice again on Thursday as well, which makes the Lions running back situation extremely dire. The Lions recently attempted to staunch the blood flow by signing Justin Forsett earlier in the week, and he will probably see significant playing time if the injuries remain troubling for the roster. In addition, while Washington did not participate in practice, he was still doing drills and working with a trainer in hopes to be back soon.

    Meanwhile, Anquan Boldin and Laken Tomlinson returned to practice Thursday in limited capacities, while guard Larry Warford, who was limited on Wednesday, sat out. The Lions are still missing DeAndre Levy and Haloti Ngata, with reports indicating Ngata may be out for several weeks. The full reports follow below.

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    Another Lions lineman injured ahead of matchup with Rams’ Aaron Donald

    http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/10/lions_lose_another_interior_of.html#incart_river_index

    ALLEN PARK — The Detroit Lions offensive line has been hit by another injury.

    One day after left guard Laken Tomlinson was sidelined at practice because of a neck injury, right guard Larry Warford missed Thursday’s workout with a hip issue. He was also limited on Wednesday by the injury.

    Tomlinson was able to return to practice on Thursday, but both guards are clearly dealing with something heading into Sunday’s game against Aaron Donald — the NFL’s most-feared interior defensive lineman — and the Los Angeles Rams.

    Rookie Graham Glasgow is expected to be the first reserve in if Tomlinson or Warford is sidelined. Glasgow got his first action last week while replacing a struggling Tomlinson in the first quarter.

    Rookie Joe Dahl is also on the roster, though has yet to be active for a game this year.

    Also missing practice for Detroit on Thursday: Running back Theo Riddick, running back Dwayne Washington, tight end Eric Ebron, linebacker DeAndre Levy, and defensive tackle Haloti Ngata.

    Washington was doing some running on the side, so he appears to be nearing a return from an ankle injury. But until he does, Detroit’s only running backs are Zach Zenner and Justin Forsett.

    Ebron, Levy and Ngata are not expected to play against Los Angeles.

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    Yards per Pass Attempt
    Season: 18th
    Last 3 Games: 5th

    Yards per Pass Completion
    Season: 7th
    Last 3 Games: 2nd

    First…Thanks for the stats, I enjoy looking those over but know full well it’s not the end all be all.

    Are either of those calculating strictly ball in air time or is adding the YAC? I would like to see the average throws CK is feeling comfortable with if you have that.

    I have noticed the last 3 games the receivers are getting more YAC than I have seen in the previous 3-5 years….I wonder if that is a Groh influence? I like it because it seemed our pass plays were 5 and stop then get tackled.

    You can never quite be sure unless a site says so, but I don’t think those particular ones are ball in the air stats. I think that’s with YAC from RAC.

    Well one way to think about Groh influence is to think back to the Chicago game last year cause of course Groh was with that team at that point. In fact the Bears offense ripped the Rams up with RAC yards.

    in reply to: Strong speech on women by Michelle Obama #55206
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    What do you think of this tactic by the Trump machine — linking Hillary to Beyonce and ‘vulgar’ lyrics — it did make me pause…

    Lyrics aren;t descriptions of one’s own actions.

    If I sang this (from Muddy Waters, “Satisfied”)

    Well I feel like snappin’
    Pistol in your face
    I’m gonna let some graveyard
    Lord be your resting place
    Woman I’m troubled, I be all worried in mind
    Well baby I can never be satisfied
    And I just can’t keep from cryin’

    Doesn;t mean I am threatening to murder someone or that I cry a lot.

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    I wonder how much of that can be the result of less drops? It seems like the WRs are catching more balls

    What’s interesting about that is that the completion percentage remains low (29th for the season and 24th for the last 3 games) and so does time of possession (which ranks 23rd for the season and 23nd for the last 3 games).

    The WRs are making more catches. Last Sunday they all had their highest catch percentage of the season.

    in reply to: Informal poll: can the Rams beat the Lions? #55184
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    I want to encourage folks to pitch in. It’s all for fun, no one is counting. I know the Bills game was deflating but still!

    If it helps any…have some pie.

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    Some follow-up

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    Go back to Peyton Manning who I thought played well in his rookie year. Better in the second half of that season than in the beginning. He threw 26 TDs, which alone or even against the record number of picks he threw, was still phenominal. As far as the team he played for, they were 3-13 the year before he came aboard and 3-13 in his rookie year. But the two years previous to the first 3-13 season, they were a playoff team going to the AFC title game in 1995. They did have Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison and Ken Dilger and Marcus Pollard. But we all know he was talented himself.

    Tim Couch? He was on an expansion team and he suffered for it.
    McNabb? He didn’t play much his rookie year.
    Akili Smith? He wasn’t a talented QB. The Bengals did fine, well at least got to .500 after Kitna took over.
    Pennington was taken 18th and didn’t play much either.
    Vick? Started 2 games his rookie season, played in 6 others.
    David Carr?
    Joey Harrington?
    Carson Palmer? Sat his first season
    Byron Leftwich? Drafted #7, joined a 6-10 Jaquar team who finished 5-11. Started 13 games, went 5-8. Didn’t distinguish himself too much. Schedule included 6 playoff teams, 6 sub .500 teams and an 8-8 Saints team.
    Eli Manning? Joined a 4-12 Giants team. Started the last 7 games, went 1-6 winning the final game of the year. Completed more than 52% of his passes in two, surpassed 200 yards once in the seven games. Competition was stiff. 15-1 Steelers, 13-3 Eagles, 11-5 Falcons, 9-7 Ravens. Can we say he “played well”?
    Rivers? Sat behind Brees his rookie year.
    Roethlisberger? Drafted #11, played real well.
    Alex Smith?
    Vince Young?
    JaMarcus Russell?
    Matty Ice? Played real well his rookie year.
    Stafford? Okay, some say he played well because of the 0-16 Lions. He got them 2 wins.
    Sanchez? He brough his team to the AFC Championship Game his first two years. Was it him or his team? Where is he now?
    Bradford? How did he play? ROY.
    Newton?
    Locker?
    Luck?
    Griffen?
    Tannehill?
    Bortles?
    Winston?
    Mariota?

    All highly drafted QBs. Did they all play well? Of course not. Did they all join crappy teams? No. Is there a standard we can draw from when deciding who should start and who should sit? Not really.

    But some guys make it sound so easy. Yup, drafted high, gotta play. Yup. It ain’t like that.

    But……that being said, I would like to see Goff under center soon. Perhaps the question would be, if Goff starts by Game #8 and we’re 4-3 or 5-2, would we have been there had he started from week 1? Regardless of what he does…..I’m hoping if he starts the last 9 we go at least 5-4, which coupled with a 4-3 or 5-2 would make for our best record since 2003. Can’t wait to see what happens and how it’s portrayed by Ram fans.

    It’s a lot of different factors that determine what happens. The player’s ability. What type of offense he ran in college. What type of offense he is expected to run in the pros. The team who drafted him. The schedule and what I mean by that is, being drafted #1 or 2 or 3 means, most times, the team has a shitty record the previous year. They’ll probably have a 4th place schedule in his rookie year. Add to that the possibility that the teams in their division take a step backwards. Or other teams on their schedule that are not seeded by record (the AFC and NFC divisions they play) take a step backwards. So many variables…..too many variables to definitively say…. “________ should start from day 1” or “___________shouldn’t start from day 1”. Or say, “he played well” or “he didn’t play well” after the rookie season has played out. At least not without looking at all the factors in the case of the latter.

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    PFW Matchup Breakdown: Los Angeles Rams vs. Detroit Lions

    http://www.winonadailynews.com/sports/football/pfw-matchup-breakdown-los-angeles-rams-vs-detroit-lions/article_2f444b65-57a0-50ce-9092-64f3b89b4120.html

    The Los Angeles Rams were looking pretty good ripping off three wins in a row over Seattle, Tampa and Arizona and even throwing 37 points on the board in that Bucs game before reverting to form behind the over-matched Case Keenum.

    How bad Jared Goff must be to be unable to get on the field ahead of Keenum is a mystery to all. But their defense can still keep them in games and even win some of them.

    That includes this Sunday’s trip to Detroit where the Lions were all but left for dead a few weeks ago after losing at Chicago to the hapless Bears, but then bounced back last Sunday to knock off the previously unbeaten Eagles. Detroit has for the most part been really bad on defense so far this year, which makes this matchup with the inept Rams offense very interesting.

    LA 32ND OFF; DET 24TH DEF

    LA 28TH RUN; DET 21ST vs. RUN

    LA 30TH PASS; DET 23RD vs. PASS

    LA T31ST PTS; DET 20TH PTS ALLOWED

    DET T18TH OFF; LA 19TH DEF

    DET 23RD RUN; LA 28TH vs. RUN

    DET 13TH PASS; LA 14TH vs. PASS

    DET T13TH PTS; LA 14TH PTS ALLOWED

    LA T13TH TO/TA; DET T21ST TO-TA

    RAMS were overpowered by Bills’ 193-yard ground game and committed three costly turnovers in 30-19 home loss.

    Key consideration for RAMS is injury status of DEs Robert Quinn and William Hayes and DT Michael Brockers, all of who were sorely missed in Week 5 loss.

    RAMS QB Case Keenum threw for 271 yards in Week 5, but he threw 2 INTs and 0 TDs (68.1 QB rating). He dropped to a still-respectable 8-4 as NFL starter over last 3 seasons.

    RAMS run game is ranked a surprisingly low 28 th with 2015 sensation Todd Gurley putting up very ordinary numbers — 105-288-3 TDs-2.7 ypc with 2 fumbles (one lost) after 23-72-1 rushing in Week 5.

    RAMS multipurpose WR Tavon Austin had 7-59 receiving and 3-26 rushing in Week Five.

    RAMS PK Greg Zuerlein connected on 4-of-4 FGs, including a 54-yarder, in Week Five, but team got burned badly on errant fake punt from own 23 with 3:47 remaining.

    Also check status of RAMS CB Trumaine Johnson, who needed crutches for a right-ankle injury suffered in Week 5.

    LIONS WR Golden Tate had only 95 total receiving yards over first 4 games after only 1-4 receiving in his last game vs. Jets in Week 4.

    After managing only 1 takeaway through 4 games, LIONS capitalized on 2 late turnovers in 24-23 Week 5 win over previously undefeated Eagles to snap 3-game losing streak and erase memories of ugly loss to Bears in Week 4.

    LIONS PK Matt Prater won Week 5 game with 29-yard FG with 1:28 remaining.

    LIONS offense got off to strong start in Week 5 with TDs on all 3 first-half possessions, but it disappeared in second half, gaining only 45 yards/

    LIONS QB Matthew Stafford was 19-25-180-3 TDs-0 INTs with a 135.0 QB rating in Week 5.

    LIONS WR Golden Tate had a key 27-yard catch-and run to set up game-winning FG, and fellow WR Marvin Jones had 4-37-1 receiving on 5 targets.

    LIONS RB Theo Riddick had 6-33-2 receiving, but team had only 27-80 rushing in Week 5.

    LIONS stud CB Darius Slay came to play in Week 5, registering both an INT and a FF.

    LIONS have given up 14 TD passes (2 in Week 5) in 5 games and have allowed 4 straight QBs to have 100-plus QB ratings.

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    The D is better than 2000’s even without Quinn Brockers Hayes and Trujo but man the O is Healthy and sucking badly

    Yes all true but my point, remember, was this. It is hard for anyone to name a team that lost a starting qb and had to play a #2 caliber qb in his place AND had issues with extensive OL injuries AND did well.

    That’s just true. Or at least I have never been presented with evidence to the contrary.

    This year’s Rams offense struggles of course are not due to that combination of 2 things. So that’s a separate topic. But the Rams struggles as a team in 2014 and 2015 are directly related to that.

    ….

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    If you read the article you would see that the article wasn’t really about Trump

    Yeah the article has nothing to do with Trump or the election.

    Though maybe now we can add another reason men don’t know this stuff.

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    Lions aren’t deceived by Todd Gurley’s slow start

    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/10/12/lions-wary-rams-second-year-back-gurley/91958398/

    Allen Park — By this point last season, through five games, Los Angeles Rams running back Todd Gurley already had four 100-yard rushing performances.

    This season, he’s still looking for his first.

    What gives?

    “Don’t be fooled by it,” Lions coach Jim Caldwell said Wednesday, with a sly grin. “I’m going to tell you something, that guy is dangerous.
    “He’s really still powerful, has got speed, got versatility.

    “He’s just as dangerous as he’s been before.”

    That seems to be the common chorus in the Lions locker room, ahead of Sunday’s meeting with the Rams at Ford Field (1 p.m., Fox/WJR).

    The Rams offense is scuffling, on all fronts, and a big reason why is the running game. The Rams rank 28th out of 32 teams, at 81.8 yards per game.

    Last season, they ranked seventh, thanks to Gurley, who rushed for 1,106 yards as a rookie, the No. 10 overall pick out of Georgia. That included five games of 100 yards or more on the ground out of the 13 he played.

    “What are the stats you’re expecting?” Lions linebacker Kyle Van Noy said. “He’s still probably gonna rush for over 1,000 yards. That’s crazy.

    “He’s still good.”

    After the third-worst rushing game of his career — a 33-yard performance in a Week 4 win over Arizona — Gurley, a 6-foot-1, 226-pounder, bounced back last week for 72 yards on 23 carries, including a touchdown, his third of the season.

    This weekend, Gurley, 22, faces a Lions rush defense that’s among the least-effective in the league, allowing nearly 115 yards a game.

    So, it sounds like a fine time for Gurley to get going — “I’ve got to pick it up,” he told ESPN recently — not unlike when Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers busted out of his supposed slump against the Lions in a game earlier this season.

    “He’s a big-play guy and we’ve just got to find ways to give him the football,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher told Detroit reporters on a conference call Tuesday. “We have not gotten started in the run game, per se.

    “We’ve got to get it going, and our feeling is if we can keep Todd involved in the game in the fourth quarter, then we’ve got a chance.”

    Gurley has rushed for 288 yards through five games, an average of 57.6 — down from 85.1 as a rookie a year ago.

    That said, the Rams have gotten him more involved in the receiving game. He had 108 total yards in last week’s loss to Buffalo, with three catches for 36 yards.

    The Rams are searching for any way to move the football, and it’s been a struggle. They’re dead last in total offense, at 284.2 yards per game.
    A Gurley resurgence, perhaps this week, can change that in a hurry.

    “What don’t he mean is an easier answer,” Lions safety Glover Quin said, smirking, when asked what Gurley — who’s already fumbled twice, after fumbling just three times all last season — means to the Rams offense. “He means everything. They’re gonna give him the ball. He’ll probably touch the ball 25, 30 times.

    “He’s a very, very, very, very talented back. They understand that, they know that.”

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    Ansah returns to practice, but Lions down 6 starters

    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2016/10/12/ngata-latest-lions-defender-go-down-injured/91954638/

    Allen Park — The Detroit Lions got mixed news on the injury front Wednesday. Defensive end Ziggy Ansah returned to practice for the first time in three weeks, but the team was down seven players, including six starters.

    Ansah’s return would be a huge boost to Detroit’s struggling pass rush. The Pro Bowler, who finished third in the NFL with 14.5 sacks last season, has been out since suffering an ankle injury in the first quarter of the team’s Week 2 loss to Tennessee.

    Linebacker DeAndre Levy, tight end Eric Ebron, wide receiver Anquan Boldin, guard Laken Tomlinson, running backs Theo Riddick and Dwayne Washington and defensive tackle Haloti Ngata were all sidelined.

    Ngata suffered a shoulder injury in the second half last weekend against the Eagles. The NFL Network is reporting he’ll be out of the lineup for multiple weeks. If he can’t go against the Rams this Sunday, the Lions will lean more heavily on Khyri Thornton and rookie A’Shawn Robinson.

    Robinson recorded his first career sack against the Eagles and also made a critical tackle on a fourth-quarter run, one play before the defense forced a fumble that turned the game around.

    “He’s growing and developing,” coach Jim Caldwell said. “He’s still young, he’s still green, but he’s starting to make some plays for us. That play that he made at the end, when we needed to get a stop there down the stretch, those are the types of things we anticipate he’ll be able to do on a regular basis. He’s taking all the necessary steps to head in that direction.”

    Ngata, a five-time All-Pro, is in his second season with the Lions. In five games, he’s recorded eight tackles, 1.5 sacks and batted down a pass.

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    Lions about to get violent reminder of what they could have had in Aaron Donald

    http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/10/aaron_donald_lions.html#incart_river_index

    ALLEN PARK — The Detroit Lions had 10 days to prepare for Aaron Donald last season. Ten days to scout him, and to watch the film.

    Ten days to pick apart his tendencies, and game plan accordingly.

    It didn’t matter.

    The Rams defensive tackle still mauled Matthew Stafford for a career-high three sacks in a 21-14 win last year in St. Louis.

    “Nothing against (the Lions), but they’ve had 10 days to prepare for Aaron Donald,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said after that game. “That just shows you the type of player he is.”

    Detroit is going to see that type of player again on Sunday, when the Rams (3-2) — who have since relocated to Los Angeles — visit Ford Field for a game against the Lions (2-3).

    Donald is continuing to tear up the NFL, racking up 16 tackles, two sacks, two passes defended and a forced fumble through five games this year. And that doesn’t even tell the full story, because he’s almost always at least double-teamed, and occasionally triple teamed.

    Yet he’s still producing.

    Donald currently is the NFL’s top-rated interior defensive lineman, according to ProFootballFocus, and as a pass rusher, it’s not even close. The distance from him to No. 2 (Fletcher Fox) is more than the distance from No. 2 to No. 9.

    Nobody is in this guy’s league, and that offers a violent reminder for the Lions about what could have been. Donald was on the board when Detroit selected 10th overall in the 2014 draft, with Ndamukong Suh and Nick Fairley entering the final years of their deals. Coordinator Teryl Austin wanted him, too.

    But then-general manager Martin Mayhew opted to go with tight end Eric Ebron instead.

    Ebron has improved every season in the league, and is the Lions’ second-leading receiver this year with 18 catches for 210 yards. But he also didn’t play last week against Philadelphia because of ankle and knee injuries, and is expected to miss the Rams game as well.

    While Donald, the guy Detroit could have had, has morphed into a first-team All-Pro.

    “There were a number of teams that passed on Aaron, and we absolutely loved it,” Fisher said. “We coveted him.”

    That poses a serious challenge for the Lions, who have problems at left guard right now. Laken Tomlinson has started every game this year, but struggled significantly, and was benched after a first-quarter miscue last week against Philadelphia. Rookie center Graham Glasgow replaced him, and Tomlinson didn’t return until the fourth quarter.

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    The Lions play the Rams in the second of three straight home games.

    Now Tomlinson is dealing with a neck injury and did not practice on Wednesday.

    So the Lions are going to have to choose between a struggling and banged-up Tomlinson, or a rookie center in Glasgow to throw at the league’s most feared defensive tackle.

    “He’s relentless — just plays with a great motor,” Stafford said of Donald. “Obviously has great physical tools, great balance inside. Just a disruptive player, and that’s kind of how they want to play up front.”

    Stafford would know, after getting dropped three times by Donald last year. But the scary thing is Donald doesn’t even consider that the best game of his career.

    “Not at all,” he said. “From a production point — just a production standpoint — if you want to just look at that, I would say yeah. But best game in this league so far? Not at all. Not even close.”

    Which really makes anyone who saw that game wonder, just how good is this guy?

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    I took my daughter to the game – it was her first Rams game.

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    The game experience exceeded our expectations…

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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – October 12, 2016

    (Opening remarks)

    “Good day at practice, good day at work. The health status is improving. It doesn’t mean to say that we got people back on the field, but it’s looking better than it was. We’re hoping to get a couple of guys back Friday. A couple might be game-time decisions, but things are coming along. I thought they responded well. As we talked about, we had to address the London situation, circumstances, we did that. Now our focus is entirely on the Lions. We’re playing a good opponent. In some ways, they kind of resemble us. Although, I think that they’re a better team than their record reflects, particularly because of their losses, and their wins, for that matter, have come by a few points here and there. So, they’re in every game. I think (QB Matthew Stafford) Matt is playing as well as I’ve seen him play in the last couple of years. He’s in great shape. They’re running the football. They’ve overcome some injuries on defense, but they’re still playing fast and just up-tempo, and can put pressure on the passer, and they’re well coached on special teams.”

    (On if the London trip feels like a two game road trip)

    “There’s a lot of administrative, and just things that come up as far as packing, those kinds of thing. All of that is under control right now. One of the things in our business is uncertainty can become a distraction. You want to deal with things ahead of time. So, we’ve done that. It’s like, ‘Okay, have your bag here between this time and that time. It’ll be there in London when you get there,’ but now, but now let’s focus on Detroit. We have all the passports locked up in the safety deposit box right now (laughter).”

    (On if the team’s success on the road makes the London trip a less stressful)

    “It’s a challenge. It’s a two-step challenge. First step is Detroit, second step is at London against a good football team with the Giants. We haven’t scratched the surface with the Giants right now. It’s all about Detroit. This will be our first experience traveling three time zones, and kicking the ball off at 10:00 a.m. our time (PT). That in itself is a challenge. The statistics over the last five years, they don’t reflect a great deal of success when the West Coast teams are playing the 1:00 (ET) games on the East Coast. Those are things you talk to them about. So, we adjust our schedules a little bit. Not that that can be an excuse, but hey, you know, the approach needs to be, and it is with us, is whenever they tell us show up and play, we’re going to play.”

    (On what specific things the team is doing to get adjusted to the rigorous traveling schedule ahead)

    “We’re into that. When the schedule came out, we got into that. So, we’ve done all of our due diligence, and research, and all those things. The players are aware of it. Again, there’s a fine line between adjusting, and then allowing it to become an excuse. We’ll push things up a little bit on Friday, and then we’ll be fine. For example, we had a 9:15 a.m. team meeting today. Sunday, they’ll be starting pregame warm-ups at 9:15 a.m. So, it’s different. When the wakeup call comes in the morning at the hotel at 5:00 a.m. and the pregame meal is at 6:00 a.m., there’s a mindset, there’s a focus, there’s a concentration. But again, you don’t want to spring it on them. You want to let them be prepared for it.”

    (On if he will keep the team awake after they land at 1:00 a.m. in the morning in London)

    “Yeah, we have a plan in place. We’ll land, and we’ll move them around, and all those things. We got a couple days to get them back, but we’ll adjust. The players are one thing. The coaches are going to land in the morning and start game planning for the next opponent. Their probably game planning on the airplane on the way over there, as far as that’s concerned. It’s a huge challenge. We’ll be able to look back and say, ‘Hey, we did it right, because that’s our expectation.”

    (On correcting the amount of penalties)

    “Yeah, they came down last week, we got to six, so they came down. We just need to keep working on it. The offensive tackle is lined up clearly behind the center, and we get called for a neutral-zone infraction on defense; things like that. There’s a few that I had disagreed with, but the numbers are coming down. I think we’re becoming a little more disciplined. There’s going to be a hold here and there. You don’t like it, but I’d rather them grab the defensive end than get a free run on our quarterback. I expect our numbers to come down. We’ve been addressing it on a daily basis.”

    (On the fact that the Lions are the only team in the NFL who have not given up a rushing touchdown this season)

    “They’re defense is playing well down there; red zone defense. They’ve given up some passing touchdowns. As we talked about success in the plus territory in the red zone, if you will, it’s about carrying balance. Our emphasis this week is, like it is every week, on the run game, and stopping the run. I like our chances.”

    (On what emphasis he puts on the team to perform well from the start of the game)

    “I think everybody in the league has their first 12, or dirty dozen, or first 15, or first 16, or whatever it is, and that’s what you go to. So, you prepare the players to start the game. It’s about executing. It’s not about time changes, it’s just about executing.”

    (On how QB Matthew Stafford has improved and what problems does he present for the team)

    “When I say improved, there’s no way humanly possible to replace (WR) Calvin Johnson, but they’ve done a good job. They’ve got weapons all over the place now. They’re utilizing the run game, they’re utilizing him in the quick passing game. When we talk about Matt, Matt looks physically better than I’ve seen him in the last few years, athletically. I know he’s worked really hard this offseason. He makes all the throws. He scrambles. He’s running the ball. He’s tough. Y’all remember when he separated his shoulder, came back in, threw the touchdown pass. That’s the competitive edge that he has over a lot of quarterbacks. He’s a challenge to prepare for. He can see the field, he knows where to go with the football. You can’t trick him, you can’t surprise him. You just have to try to get pressure on him.”

    (On if he has game planned around Lions newly signed RB Justin Forsett)

    “Signing him is one thing; having him active and in the offense is another. If he’s active, he’d probably will have a limited role, and it would probably be involved in the run game. When we defend offenses from a run standpoint, there’s going to be a back there who’s going to get the ball. But, he’s a good player. No doubt, he’s a good player. I don’t know what happened there, but it was a good signing for them.”

    ***

    Rams Offensive Coordinator Rob Boras – October 12, 2016

    (On if he agrees with Coach Fisher that the offense is improving regardless of where they’re ranked)

    “I think we’re getting better. Obviously we need consistency across the board, but I think we’re seeing glimpses of it. Again, the stat that’s critical is winning football games and we have to make sure we’re doing our part so we can win. I do think – I don’t think, I know – the offense is improving.”

    (On what the indicators are that he’s seen that shows improvement)

    “Last week we had our most explosive game, as far as having nine explosives. I felt that the run had glimpses – again, the word I’m going to use today, probably a bunch is consistency – we just have to be more consistent with our approach, the yardage, the time of possession. But again, our goal is to get in the end zone and we’re not doing that well enough right now, and we recognize that. Again, just the consistency of it and understanding we have explosive players with explosive ability. When that stuff starts coming all together, we’ll end up putting the ball in the end zone more consistently.”

    (On if he’s seeing anything that they need to do better with the offensive line to create more holes for RB Todd Gurley)

    “Across the board, it’s everything. As I’ve talked about with the run game, it’s just like anything, it takes 11 guys to protect the quarterback, the quarterback is responsible to protect himself as well, and it takes 11 guys to run the football – that’s the quarterback taking the right path with the running back and the o-line and the tight ends and the wide receivers. I’ve said it before, it’s one guy here, one guy there, the other guy. Again, it’s making sure we’re all getting on the same page and trying to take advantage of what the defense is giving us. We’re going to continue to run the football, that’s what we believe in and sometimes the number games aren’t in our favor, but we’re going to continue running because that’s what will help us with our run-action pass.”

    (On if the run setting up the pass is more important than the pass setting up the run or vice versa and if the opponent dictates that)

    “We like to say that we have to dictate. We’re on offense, we don’t want to play reactive, we want to be proactive. I’m not sure which one came first, the chicken or the egg, but we’re going to try to be balanced and take advantage of what the defense is giving us. We’re going to continue to run, as I said, and when we all of the sudden use a run-action pass, we’ve had the ability to get the ball down the field, whether that’s been to (WR) Kenny (Britt) or to (TE) Lance (Kendricks) against Seattle and so forth. We strive for balance and so far our defense has been playing lights out and it’s allowed us to stay balanced because it’s been a ballgame where we’ve been able to continue to run in the third and fourth quarter and not be down a couple scores. Again, we recognize, right now, our deficiency with getting the ball in the end zone and that’s what our focus is right now.”

    (On if part of that deficiency is penalties and what causes that)

    “It’s negative plays. You look at the game the other day for example, it was a sack on the 30-yard-line, it was a false start. Again, it starts with play calls. You’re always self-evaluating as a coach, seeing if you’re putting your players in the best position. And again, it’s the negative plays that are preventing us from having the continued success. We’ve started the drives well the last couple of games, we just haven’t finished with touchdowns, we’ve finished with field goals. It’s eliminating the negative plays when we get to the red zone.”

    (On they will continue to line up Gurley out wide to get him out in space)

    “It’s something we want to do with all of our running backs. Obviously, anytime you want to make the defense defend the whole field and that’s part of trying to attack a defense and it’s something we’re looking to do all the time.”

    (On if struggling to get the ball in the end zone changes the way he calls plays)

    “No, I’m trying to call it as if we’re ahead. We just have to trust the plan, we know what plays we want to get to in specific situations and we’re just trying to take advantage of those plays and those opportunities.”

    (On what he remembers from the Detroit game last season)

    “It was a big one for all of us. We had lost, I don’t know how many games in a row, and Coach (Fisher) had asked me to take over on that Monday. So it was a blur, but it was a great win for the organization, just anytime you’re on a losing streak. It was exciting, it was nerve-racking for all of us, but the players found a way and responded and played really well in that game.”

    (On if Detroit being towards the bottom of the league in run defense is a big part of getting Todd Gurley going)

    “No, like every week, you know your opponent, but we focus on the Rams. We’re going to know what Detroit does, they’re very talented on defense, but again, it’s about us and us taking care of our business. If we do that, we think we’re going to be very consistent and very efficient and be able to produce. Again, it’s respecting them, but focusing on us and our technique, our assignments and our details to get our job done.”

    (On what he’s seen from QB Jared Goff over the last four weeks that he has improved in)

    “I know I always go back to the classroom every time and it’s hard to put a grade on that because you guys don’t see that, but that’s where it starts for every position. A lot of the times, you understand how a person is learning by the questions that he’s asking and he’s not asking rookie questions anymore. He’s starting to ask those more advanced, if you will, say the 301 or 401-type question. For me, it starts there. Then, obviously, just watching him going against our defense and his footwork in the pocket and eliminating the turnovers. With the reps that he does get with the first unit, those same sorts of things. Again, it starts in the classroom, the easiest way to understand if somebody knows it is when they can regurgitate it back to you. And he’s able to do that right now and, again, ask some of those questions where you have to, yourself, look up at the sky and try to think ‘Okay, that’s a good one,” and try to give him the right answer. He’s putting a lot of work in as if he is the starter, which I know is not an easy thing to do, especially for a young player. But to watch him go ahead and study Detroit and get ready for this week as if he’s playing, I think that says a lot about his maturity as a 21-year-old.”

    (On if there is ever a thought of giving him a series or two in a game to see how he reacts)

    “I think that would all be based with Coach Fisher and kind of how the flow of the game would be going.”

    (On if he’s seen that Kenny Britt is more comfortable with Case Keenum now that they have had 10 games together)

    “Yeah, every receiver is kind of taking their turn over these last couple of weeks. I’ve talked about Kenny quite a bit. To me, against it starts in the classroom and his approach out here with walk-thrus and practice. But I think the comfort that Case and Kenny have right now is real. You can start to see that come to fruition, especially on the third-downs when we need a big play.”

    (On if they work on last-minute, long touchdown drives)

    “Yeah, Friday when we get into the two-minute situation or four-minute is when we focus coming back Friday. As a staff, that’s the things we get to study tonight and tomorrow and put in with the team on Friday and obviously try to execute it on Sunday afternoons.”

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    note: there are competing views on starting rookie qbs. Here’s one view.

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    off the net from PARAM

    Parcells philosophy and Fisher’s are almost identical. Play good defense and special teams, run, run and run some play action. The common denominator with those 3 coaches are each found a QB to run their offense. Bledsoe, Brady, Marino, Simms, Hostetler. I’m sure with the right QB, Fisher’s offense would succeed also. Perhaps that guy is Goff. Can’t wait to find out.

    But.

    Sunday night, I wanted to see Goff start in Detroit. Yesterday, I wanted to see Goff start if we lost in Detroit. Today, I wonder if he’ll start anytime soon, if we win ugly in Detroit and London. And seeing how that’s the way we win most Sundays, we could do that.

    But if he does start, who thinks we’ll win anymore than we would without him? And if we don’t, I don’t think that is a statement to how good (or bad) Goff is as an NFL QB.

    The only top 3 picks to have a winning record the last 5 years were Luck and RG3. We know Luck is the real deal but we also know what RG3 has done since. Nada, zilch. And he had a pretty damn good rookie year……3200 yards, 20 TDs, 5 picks, 102.4 QBR. Truth is, whatever a rookie QB does in his rookie year doesn’t necessarily mean squat.

    Jameis Winston threw for 4042 yards with 22 TDs and 15 picks last year while going 6-10. Huge things were expected of him in 2016. He’s well on his way to 20+ TDs (9 in 5 games) but he’s also well on his way to 20 picks (8 in 5 games). And his team is still under .500.

    Mariota threw 4 TDs in his first game, had another 4 TD game in midseason and a couple of 3 TD games. But he had 6 games in which he didn’t get 2 TD passes, 5 of which were goose eggs. He never threw more than 2 picks in a game and finished with a higher QB rating than Winston despite Winston averaging almost 20 yard more per game.

    The average winning percentage of rookie QBs taken in the top 3 of the first round the last 5 years is .419 (between 6 and 7 wins) in their rookie year. The average yards per game is 230. The average for TD passes is 19.3. The average for interceptions is 13.7. The average QB rating is around 84.8.

    For those fans who want to see Goff in and learning on the fly, that’s going to happen whenever he starts.

    For those fans who want to see Goff in and leading the Rams to wins, that’s a 50/50 proposition. And in either case, it won’t predict the future or determine whether he was the “right pick” or a “disaster of a pick”.

    Personally, I don’t think we’re going anywhere with Keenum. I don’t think our run game will ever open up with him under center. And that may be a reason some point to when putting forth an opinion that maybe Goff shouldn’t start (“he’ll be under constant pressure without a run game”). But I think if he’s facing 8 in the box consistently, he’ll make them pay much more than Keenum will. Whether that’s enough to overcome his errors (of which there will undoubtedly be a few) is anyone’s guess. But I think it’ll be enough to give Gurley more space than he’s currently getting.

    His arm is going to make up for a lot and arguably he’s on a better team than Winston and Mariota were last year. Which explains some of the hesitation with starting him. The Rams are expecting “better things” as a team this year. Starting a rookie might bring negative results.

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    Nine starters went down this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1BCEEntbs

    Yes but were they distributed all over the team, or, as I was pointing to, were they concentrated in a key unit? (I pointed to the qb/OL combo).

    Some teams overcome injuries depending on their depth, which in turn depends on how veteran they are as a team. Plus of course it was easier to count on depth before free agency and the salary cap.

    BUT I really wasn’t looking at that. I was looking at a particular situation–having to play mostly back-up qbs, and at the same time having continuing multiple and extensive injuries along the OL (ie. more than just 1 or 2 guys).

    I can find teams that won in spite of numerous injuries, but then when injuries are heavily concentrated in a key unit, and it robs that unit of effectiveness, then, naturally you find it has an effect.

    For example, in 2000, all 4 Rams linemen had off-season surgery. They then lost 2 on top of it during the season, plus Carter played while still not the same from back surgery. Injuries basically hurt the DL. While it wasn’t the only factor, that helped wreck the 2000 defense. Even with the best offense in the league they couldn’t take that hit and remain the same team, as the playoffs showed.

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    Which one would you wear? Or do you wear?

    Faulk. I wore it up until my wife claimed it for bedwear. As you know, it is the duty of all married men to surrender any and all kinds of shirts and tops to their wives upon request.

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