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wvParticipantI felt watching the game that the Rams were the better team,
but that San Diego had the better QB and the Rams kept getting called for too many critical penalties.After watching replay,
I did not think the rams had the better team.
I also did not think the Chargers had the better team.
It looked to me like neither team could really
take control of the game. It looked like one of
those games that either team could win, and whoever
had the ball last would win.I think they are about even at this point.
Course i agree Rivers is better than Hill.
And Rivers had to deal with the Rams pass-rush
and Hill did not.I enjoyed seeing Tavon and Stedman more
involved, btw.w
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Rampage2K – The Play had a fatal flawI was right there in that endzone, front row…( you might have saw me, good looking guy with the Faulk throwback on wink2 smiley) I recorded it on my phone as I was sure I was about to record an epic finish and win for the Rams…nope, I captured a horrible end to what was a very exciting game…
The play was doomed from the jump because there were no WR, TE or RB on the right side to threaten the OLB on that side, he simply sat back and watched the QB’s eyes and it was an easy pick as soon as he threw it…if they had simply ran an RB out in the flat to take the OLB out of the play,it would have captured an epic win , instead of an epic fail….
Don’t mind them going for the win right there, but there has to be a better play then that….don’t know why we didn’t run it there anyway and spin more clock… The Rams fought thru adversity( refs) and came back to win that game!!! Too bad it ended like that….they deserved that win.All the Charger fans in the building know they lucked out with that win….
Amazing how many Rams fans were there…it was crazy!!!
I met Jim Thomas in the parking lot tailgate and took a picture with him, cool dude..I had awesome seats in front row of the endzone that had most of the action including the end…the place was rocking!!!! I am going to watch in on dvr today to see how different it is on TV..
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wvParticipantThis season has had the worst officiating I remember seeing… since the Replacement Refs season, anyway.
Yeah, i agree.
Obviously some of it has to be related
to the new emphasis on player-safety.
Theres a lot of ticky-tack stuff being called.I think the game is harder to officiate now
than it used to be.I’m in favor of using instant replay
for penalties now. They need to figure
out a way to do that.w
vNovember 24, 2014 at 1:12 pm in reply to: Rams open as 6 1/2 to 7 point favorites against the Raiders. #12444
wvParticipantThe pressure is on.
Well, the Raiders have played a lot of teams
tough, but you can usually count on them
to make just enough bonehead plays to lose.This game could have eight turnovers
and 20 penalties and several
outright bench-clearing Brawls.
Too bad they
didnt choose it for Monday Night Football.w
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wvParticipantRams ain’t gonna end up with the 11th pick.
I will bet you a boatload of cheetos on it.
Heck they have 3 upcoming games against teams with (so far) HIGHER projected picks.
When was the last time the Rams played 7 top defenses in a row? Without their starting qb?
And now that’s over for a spell.Well i dunno.
Oakland
at Wash
Ariz
NYG
at SeattleI’m guessing they go 3-2
the rest of the way. That
would leave them at
7-9, and they’d be picking
somewhere around 13 or 14 or so.They are such a strange team.
A boneheaded young team without
a top QB or a No.1 WR.I watched the first half on Replay
and one thing about Hill is – he
is a bit of a gunslinger. More
like Favre than a ‘game manager’.
He was zinging it into tight windows
and just trusting Tavon/Stedman/Kendricks/Britt
to make the plays.I also thought the defense was oh-so-close
to killing Rivers numerous times, but Rivers
was just a millisecond smarter/quicker than
GW’s defense. GW gambled a lot but it
could have gone either way on those gambles.
IF he had just rushed four, Rivers might
have burned them deep, who knows.I was glad to see BS finally called a deep
pass for Tavon. Pass INT was called.
I think its a mistake not to trust Tavon
on medium and deep routes.Games full of called-penalties are not fun to watch.
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wvParticipantFrom the Bernie article. Fisher stays the course.
“Well, that’s a good football team there. They were a playoff team last year. They’ve got a potential Hall of Fame quarterback (Philip Rivers), that’s playing really well. We’ve got to learn … until we put a couple in a row together, it’s going to always be hard for us. But these guys … I’m not going to change anything. I’m not going to ask them to change anything. We were pretty close to pulling this one off.”
“This is a tough one, yeah, considering who we’re playing,” he said. “Managing the game at the end, dealing with the officiating crew. It was, yeah, it was a tough one. I feel bad for the guys. You can’t blame those players in there. There’s no blame to be placed any place. Put it where you want, but this was a tough one. We’ve got a great locker room and a great group of guys. We’re disappointed and they’ll come back.”
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wvParticipantHill throws away Rams’ chance to win
BY JIM THOMAS
SAN DIEGO, Calif. • Defeat came in a bitter dose for the Rams on Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium. With just over a minute to play, the Rams were on the doorstep of the end zone and a dramatic comeback victory over the San Diego Chargers.
But on second-and-goal from the San Diego 4, Shaun Hill’s crossing pass intended for WR Kenny Britt was picked off by Marcus Gilchrist right around the goal line. So much for momentum. So much for that dramatic comeback.
With only one timeout remaining, the Rams could stop the clock only once. So the result was a 27-24 victory for San Diego (7-4) on a day when the Rams had two TD passes called back because of penalty and had several chances to take control in the first half. At 4-7, the Rams must sweep their final five games to avoid their 11th straight non-winning season.
Things didn’t start well for Hill and the St. Louis offense. On the third play of the game for that unit, Hill threw a tad late to tight end Jared Cook to his right. Brandon Flowers swooped in for an interception and returned it nine yards to the St. Louis 34.
The Chargers got as far as the St. Louis 5 before settling for a Nick Novak field goal and an early 3-0 lead.
The Rams got some traction on their next possession, picking up four first downs on a long 8-minute drive. Overcoming two false starts and an offensive holding penalty (on Greg Robinson), the Rams reached the 4 before stalling.
Robinson’s penalty wiped out a 23-yard completion to Stedman Bailey. But the Rams got that yardage back _ and more _ on a 19-yard completion to Bailey coupled with a roughing the passer penalty by Dwight Freeney on the next play.
That gave the Rams a first down at the Chargers’ 11, but they could advance only to the 4 before running out of downs. Greg Zuerlein’s 22-yard field goal tied the game at 3-3 late in the first quarter.
The Rams tacked seven more points on the board not long after that kick. The Chargers marched quickly down the field and looked like they would come out of things with at least three points.
But on third-and-goal from the St. Louis 8, Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins stepped in front of a Philip Rivers pass intended for Keenan Allen. Jenkins intercepted the ball at the 1, and returned it 99 yards for a score.
It was the fifth “pick 6” and sixth defensive touchdown scored by Jenkins since he entered the league in 2012. The Rams had some chances to tack onto that lead, but came up short over the rest of the opening half.
On their next possession, a 46-yard field goal attempt by Zuerlein was blocked by San Diego’s Darrell Stuckey. After a three-and-out by the Chargers, Hill completed a 51-yard touchdown pass to Kenny Britt. But the play was called back because Robinson was flagged for grabbing the facemask of a San Diego pass rusher.
So the score remained 10-3 Rams until late in the second quarter, when San Diego mounted a successful 2-minute drive _ at least successful enough for a 48-yard Novak field goal with 2 seconds left in the half.
The Chargers picked away at the Rams’ defense with underneath routes the entire drive, leaking out backs and wide receivers against a soft-playing St. Louis secondary. So it was 10-6 Rams at the half.
The Chargers continued that tactic offensively in the third quarter. That approach worked well enough that San Diego steadily moved the ball downfield on its first possession of the second half. On first-and-10 from the St. Louis 32, Ryan Mathews gashed the Rams on a draw play _ the Chargers’ favorite running play in their playbook. Mathews went all the way to the end zone for a 32-yard TD and a 13-10 San Diego lead.
Things got worse before they got better for the Rams. On the Rams’ next possession, Robinson’s bad day continued. On second-and-10 from the 20, University of Illinois product Corey Liuget beat Robinson and knocked the ball loose from Hill for a fumble. Former University of Missouri linebacker Andrew Gachkar scooped up the loose ball and returned it 13 yards for a TD and a 20-10 Rams lead with 9:28 to play in the third quarter.
But the Rams caught a break when punt return man Allen muffed a Johnny Hekker punt and undrafted rookie Alex Bayer recovered for the Rams at the San Diego 21.
It took only three plays to get in the end zone, with the TD coming on a six-yard fly sweep by Tavon Austin for his first touchdown of the season. So it was 20-17 Chargers with 6:18 left to play in the third quarter, plenty of time for a Rams comeback.
The situation looked promising when San Diego got pinned back at its 9 after another Hekker punt. But San Diego marched methodically down the field for what looked like a back-breaking touchdown on a 29-yard bubble screen from Rivers to Allen that gave the home team a 27-17 lead.
But the Rams wouldn’t go quietly into the southern California sunset. Hill led a Rams drive that resulted in not one, but two TD catches by Bailey. The first _ a fade pattern to the left from the 4 _ was negated by a holding penalty, making it the second Rams TD catch to be negated by a penalty called by referee Carl Cheffers’ crew.
But two plays later Hill threw another fade pattern to Bailey for a score, this time to the right and from the 7-yard line. There were no flags this time, so the TD stood and San Diego clung to a 27-24 lead.
After forcing the Chargers to punt, it looked like Austin had given the Rams the lead with a 75-yard punt return that carried to about the San Diego 3. But once again their were flags, and the Rams took over at the Chargers 40 instead because of offsetting penalties.
Then on third-and-3 from the San Diego 33, Hill threw a deep corner route that was hauled in by Kenny Britt with a diving catch at the 6 with 1:09 to play.
But after a Benny Cunningham run to the 4, that’s where this day ended for the Rams.
November 23, 2014 at 9:14 pm in reply to: Rams can't overcome their own mistakes… (Chargers game reactions thread) #12403
wvParticipantOn Greg Robinson
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LaramOnce again he gave up a blindside hit on his qb where he was blocking his man, then inexpicably lets him go.
I’m not talking about the type of error where its obvious its a mental error, like last week against Ware.
This could be a mental error to but its not as obvious. Its like he just quits.
He’s engaged, then lets the guy go right to the qb.
That costs the Rams 7 points right there, when there was no discernable reason for it to occur.
Just nuts.
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wvParticipantOn the INT
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Laram
when Benny motioned out into the formation he turns the lb around and he has an easy walk in TD.Frontside the safety was right in the flat, he lined up there and just squatted.
Hill knows he blew that badly!!!
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The passing efficiency that qb’s have against this defense is just miund boggling to me.Plus the run D sprung a leak again.
Like I said during the week, I’m not drinking the kool-aid on this D yet!!
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November 23, 2014 at 8:06 pm in reply to: Rams can't overcome their own mistakes… (Chargers game reactions thread) #12397
wvParticipantDefense gave up 410 yards.
Matthews rushed 12 times for 105 yards.
Hill two INTs and the fumble.w
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wvParticipantGreg Williams video: on TJ and the play of the safeties
http://www.rams-news.com/gregg-williams-our-safeties-are-playing-at-a-high-level/-
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wvParticipantI wanna see how they play in San Diego
before i say anything.Are they gonna go back to being
the ‘bad rams’ or can they
put it together two games in a row
against two winning-teams?We’ve been waiting a decade
to see them win two in a row
against winning-teams.w
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wvParticipantThat was depressing
Yup. A decade since
the Rams won two in a row
against winning teams.Ah well.
Maybe the times are
a changin,
in San Diego.
Maybe not.w
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wvParticipantWell if the Chargers Center
cant go, I might very well favor the Rams.w
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wvParticipantRams fans if your going to the game on Sunday in San Diego, come on over to lot P3. This is where the Rams party will be.
A large contingent of LA Rams fans will be on hand from the SoCal Rams Booster Club and Bring Back The Los Angeles Rams.Look forward to seeing you there.
Grits
Enjoy the game, Grits.
Bring home a win.w
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wvParticipantOne thing that surprised me was arm strength. Fisher said something about Hill’s arm being fresh from the time off (he did throw a lot in camp and preseason,more than he is used to) Britt remarked how he must have spent the time off in the weight room. When I rewatched the game somewhere between 4 and 4 million times his delivery looked much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game
Yeah, that was a great performance considering the
long layoff and the fact Quick wasn’t in the game, etc.Hill can zing it.
I’m not sure what his major weaknesses are.
He just seems like a solid, cagey NFL pocket-QB to me.
Like a Carson Palmer.w
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wvParticipantIf we take an OT #1 I am going to be pissed.
I want a MLB, an OC, a developmental QB, and a solid, route-running WR for depth.
OT for depth? Sure. But we have other needs to prioritize.Anyway, you’ve done it, haven’t you? Kicked off 6 months or more of draft talk. The consolation of the fan following a perpetually losing team!
Well, I guess everything kinda revolves
around the QB issue in the offseason.
Should be inter esting.w
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wvParticipant… and that issue, according to him, is that officials aren’t looking for this particular hold due to where they’re training their eyes during the play. That’s probably B.S., and it’s more likely that officials just aren’t going to call the hold almost every down…
Yup.
The league aint exactly on a mission
to help defenses.And it would make a mockery of the game
to call holding every other pass play.
Quinn is just ‘too’ good, apparently.w
vNovember 20, 2014 at 3:09 pm in reply to: "awaiting moderation," the mods, avatars, passwords, embedding, formatting, etc #12242
wvParticipantWhy are we still ‘awaiting moderation‘
on this board?Maybe some of us want to be immoderate.
Or excessive, unreasonable and possibly
even intolerable.I wont even get into this
embedding thing.Btw, this is a good little board.
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wvParticipantDerek Stanley on 101
November 20, 2014 at 2:39 pm in reply to: Rams defense, rankings last 3 games v. 10 game rankings #12239
wvParticipantInteresting breakdown….seems like teams arent able to run so they pass pass pass. Ergo….the revival of sack city.
Think about this D,
once Barron gets up to speed
and C.Long hits his stride.Seattle could be in trouble
that last game. I hope
its not a meaningless game
for them. Nothing would make a
bigger statement for the Rams
than grinding out a win in Seattle.w
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wvParticipantI’m very sorry, Zooey–but if you don’t put it through the playoff machine it isn’t real. Those are simply your opinions. I have hard data. I have charts and stuff. And there is always the famous PA Ram “hunch”. I am bringing real solid stuff to the table here—and if anyone wants stock tips I can find some internet thing to help me pick those too.
This is not the 1970s anymore.I can go onto the internet and take scientific polls that will tell me what kind of rock band I am.
It’s all there in this crazy cyberspace thing.Zooey has always hated science,
Pa. Same as Nittany.I know this because i know
they are both Scorpios.I think the parade starts
at 9-7, btw. They’d have
to win 5 out of 6 for that.
And that aint happnin.
This young team still makes
too many bone-head plays
every game.w
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wvParticipantMack is a regular in the chat room during games.
Unlike you.But then you post regularly.
And he hasn’t been.Hmm. Wait minute.
Okay. That’s not hard to figure out is it.Which one of those 2 is the secret identity?
Or are they BOTH secret identities?Satan-Ram wears many guises.
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wvParticipantYeah, there’s really nothing that jumps out at you
as far as individual stars on the Charger defense.
What jumps out at you is the fact that are 6th
in points against, though. Pretty stingy defense
as far as giving up scores.Legatron might have to play well in this one.
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Via ShakyRams Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel – Post-Practice – November 19, 2014
(On how happy he was with K Greg Zuerlein’s performance Sunday)
“Yeah, it was great. In pregame warm-ups he was crushing it, so you just had to make sure he kind of stayed in that groove. He had a kick a quarter, so it kind of kept him going. It’s great to have him have a good day in a crucial game. After the game I thought he made four, then I was like, ‘Oh my gosh that’s right. I forgot he kicked the fifth one.’ It was a good job by him. It was great.”(On if there is any preparation with Zuerlein regarding 50 plus field goals)
“Nope. Greg just knows if we get basically across the 50 to be ready for a field goal. It’s not given to him whether we’re going punt or field goal until it’s fourth-down. He just knows if I’m hollering field goal, that means I got the word from Coach to go field goal or if we go punt. But, he’s always ready to kick the field goal, regardless of whether we do kick it or if we got to go punt.”(On in pregame if he watches Zuerlein to gauge his readiness for longer field goal attempts)
“About every game he’s been really grooving it in pregame. Just like really in practice. I think he’s missed three and two of them that he missed, he hit great balls, straight balls, good contact. He just started it a little left. One he toed, one bad hit that was right, but all the other ones have been really good hits. All his warm ups have been good. All his practices have been great. That’s why I’m real happy for him that he had a big day, because it was coming at some point.”(On what he thinks Zuerlein’s kicking range is)
“The 55 yarder, I thought was good from 66/67. A 55 yarder for him is just a normal kick. He doesn’t have to add anything to it. In that range, a 35 yard field goal or a 55 yard field goal is the same kick for him.”(On if by normal kick he means normal swing)
“Normal swing. He doesn’t have to put any more into it until he gets probably over the 62/63 range. Probably over 60, but anything under 60’s a normal swing for him.”(On how he decides which way to go with kickoffs)
“We try to go some directional kickoffs. The two they returned, he just miss hit them. We’re trying to go deep left or deep right, wherever the call was and he just miss hit those. He hit five great balls. He just missed them, there was no strategy to placing it shorter.”(On how he can get the punt return game going)
“Really we haven’t changed anything as far as really our drills in practice. We’ve tweaked the scheme just a little bit, just like we normally would. Denver’s punter didn’t give us a chance because he hit the high short kicks, the rugby type kicks. So, it’s a combination of blocking and then getting the right ball. We’ve got a few of them, but we didn’t capitalize. Hopefully, in these next six games we’ll get a few chances.”(On if he thinks WR Tavon Austin should just go on some of the returns instead of hesitating)
“No. There’s a little bit of strategy based on the type of punter that we’re facing, whether he’s going to catch-and-go or catch-and-set. Different things we work on based on the return call and the type of punter we’re getting. Yeah, and I’d like to get more out of it, but I’m very optimistic that we’re going to get better these next couple weeks.”(On if it’s up to Austin to fair catch or if he is told to fair catch)
“There’s certain calls and alignments we’ll be in where he knows he’s probably going to fair catch it, unless the punter just screams one at him. We’re never telling him, ‘Fair catch it or don’t fair catch it.’ It’s really a judgment call that in my opinion he’s been very good at making the right decisions.”(On how good it was to see Zuerlein get the NFC Special Teams Player of the Week award)
“Yeah, it was great. We didn’t know about it until this morning. I thought he might have a chance. Again, like we talked about earlier, very well earned for a kid that works very hard and really has been very good all season long.”(On how it feels about playing San Diego)
“I love going back to San Diego, obviously played there quite a few times. It’s a great place to play. I know it’s an old stadium, but the guys who haven’t played there, we’re getting them excited for playing in that kind of environment.”(On how S Maurice Alexander played vs. Denver)
“I’m glad you brought that up. That one kickoff he made a great tackle. I mean he just, no hesitation, shot the returner. It was a great play. Then we had him out there at gunner where he hasn’t had as much training, because we actually had him playing inside on punt, but we needed him out there. He’s a fast, long, aggressive guy and he made a tackle on punt. He blocked really well on the return game which went unseen, but not by the coaches. Hopefully, there’s more to come with Maurice. I’m proud of him.”(On if Alexander was anxious to play)
“Yeah. He’s been chomping at it because, he’s unfortunately been inactive through no other reason than You’ve got to dress 46 guys and he’s kind of the odd man out a couple weeks. He’s worked very, very hard in practice. He knew his time was coming. There’s no surprise on his performance because of how he’s practiced.”
wvParticipantAre u kidding me? The Rams havent won
in San Diego since 1975?w
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Ram vs Cardinal hi-lites at the 10:40 mark
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Rams43 reposting a post by ‘Stel’Here’s Stel…
Last three games:
SF 21 runs, 80 yards
AZ 22 runs, 28 yards
Den 10 runs, 28 yardsTotal: 53/136 (2.6 avg) against teams with a combined 22-8 record.
Me: This pretty much says it all about how our run D has come together.
Plenty of credit should go to GW for finally figuring this thing out. Took longer than I expected, but the results are now looking awesome.
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wvParticipantI dunno what to think of Brockers.
He rarely seems to catch my eye.
He certainly doesn’t make many
splashy plays and he doesnt penetrate
or push the pocket. But i dunno
what his role really is.I am just glad Mr Donald was there
to be drafted at no.13. I still
cant believe the Giants passed on him.There were so many big plays in that Denver game
i lost count. Batted balls, deflected passes, great
tackles, pressures, hits, INTs…I dunno what to make
of it. Kinda reminded me of the playoff game
where the Bucs shut down the GSOT with pure…brutality.w
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November 19, 2014 at 4:14 pm in reply to: news bits: Zuerlein, Rams HOF finalists, some Denver game follow-up #12162
wvParticipantand to think, just 3 weeks ago, there wuz doubts about “Greg The Leg”….
URL – http://theramshuddle.com/topic/greg-zuerlein-needs-to-be-replaced/
he was one the key’s, if not the key, to victory last week…
GREG IS THE MAN!
Well, i still have doubts about him.
I just dont really trust his accuracy.
He did have a great game against Denver.w
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wvParticipantHe could own 2 teams and move them both to San Diego.
Only a two-headed man
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