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It really seemed to my friend and me, watching from row MM, that the defense was almost deliberately being handicapped. It’s one thing to mostly stay in base defense and not use much in the way of blitzes, trickery, etc. But the Rams D just stayed STOCK STILL. There was no motion, no checking into other alignments in response to O-shifts. Just, “see if you can stop them from this formation” test, again and again.
Fisher was doing something. Maybe testing the secondary, maybe something else. But that WAS NOT the style of defense they will field for the regular games. It just wasn’t. And no Laurinaitis, I think that’s a factor. He’s a pretty good field general for the defense, didn’t see anyone really filling that role for the Rams this game.
Doesn’t excuse missed tackles when guys had the chance, but it does explain some of the giant holes.
Yeah, and against an elite QB and veteran offense, that kind of approach is going to get a defense
carved up. But it will also give the D coaches a lot of plays to look at 🙂
And it gives the secondary players some plays and experience against a great QB.
I think they wanted to see some one-on-one stuff.I dunno, cause i’m no expert, but it seemed to me that Joy-ner
did ok for a rookie. The game does not seem to big for him, imho.
He reminded me a bit of last years version of Ogletree — a bit confused
but you can see the talent.What else did you see from the M&M row?
w
vJust fwiw:
Fisher: (On the running game)
“We were hoping for more. Again, they’re very stout up front. We didn’t do a lot of game-planning, so I’m not too concerned about that, but we’ll get that thing going. But it was a little frustrating at times just because of the penetration. There was so much penetration. Again, I think the coaches will take that responsibility just because we just didn’t really do an awful lot of game-planning. We just called things and talked about the adjustments if this happens. So, I would expect everybody to, obviously, improve.(On if the lack of blitzing on the starting quarterbacks was an indication of how vanilla it was for both teams)
“We had a couple pressures. We had a couple of single pressures with Aaron (Rodgers). Our philosophy was to just line up and play and not rely on the pressure. We pressured a little bit last week and not allowing the pressure, of course. We’re holding a lot of stuff for our regular season as well.”————
Chris Long
(On how much he has learned from the two preseason games)
“The guys in those locker rooms and in the film room and on the team learn a lot, but often times the people outside the building don’t learn as much because it’s hard to decipher what’s real and what’s not. That’s the way preseason is, it’s not always indicative of how things are going to go on the field. For us it’s just about continuing to work on the little things and the result will become more important in a couple of weeks.”
———–Joy-ner
(On the touchdown pass that was committed to him)
“I’ve just got to work on the scrambling technique. Quarterback gets out the pocket, you have to plaster your guy, and I had a mental error. That something we can correct Monday. No hard feelings.”
—————-Aaron Rogers
(On if this game says something about the value of practice)
“I think practice is always important, but these opportunities are important to get the tempo. You’re playing against another team. They played very vanilla on defense, they didn’t bring any pressure really than maybe one snap when we were out there. They didn’t have (DT Michael) Brockers playing, they didn’t have (LB James) Laurinaitis playing, so it felt good for us to run some plays against another team but it’s preseason.”Just had a flash of memory with this post.
For a number of us nomads, the Rams were never home. We followed them from all parts of the nation. I started following them growing up in Chicago (horns + Fearsome Foursome + Roman Gabriel + boring Bears) and then moved to Minny from where I have remained faithful for decades.
Which meant that media coverage of the Rams was nearly unavailable. Neither the Tribune, Sun Times, Pioneer Press, or Star/Tribune ever covered the Rams. Neither did local radio or TV. There was no ESPN nor, of course, was there a web.
And that meant that, at season’s end, I would go for months with no Rams news. Until, finally, the preseason previews came out. Just like this one.
SI would have pigskin previews with thumbnails on each team. And the dedicated season preview pubs would come out with–gasp!–a couple of pages on each team! I’d finally be able to hear a bit about draft picks, acquisitions, and prognosticators’ take.
Then, when the season started, there’d be write-ups of the games–AP thumbnails for the Rams unless they had played the Vikings. And that would basically be it. The sum total of my media-acquired learning about the team.
Now, I look at a preview like this and, besides remembering what it was like to depend on these blurbs, I am astonished at how pedestrian it is. I mean, with the Web and ESPN and NFL Network, we know vastly more than this. There isn’t a bit of information here that we haven’t hashed over for weeks or more. There isn’t an analytical angle we don’t know by heart.
It’s a throw-back to another era. A simpler one, perhaps a better or worse one, certainly one less jaded. But I wonder how an outfit like this can still sell copies? Lots of nostalgic old buffers like me I guess.
Exactly.
…these kidz today and their 24-hour-sports-tv and internet…
w
vI respect Holt’s opinions since he’s played WR at a high level. And, I understand his concern about Austin’s production. But, Austin is not going to ever be a Torry Holt 80-catch-a-year guy. He will be a quick strike guy, though, and if he can get you 10-12 TDs in this offense, he will be a monster contributor. I also thought that in the 2-minute drill at the end of the first half, he showed that he could get open for short sideline passes that he could keep the chains moving at times. I think he can still be a “go to” guy in certain situations, just not a traditional No. 1. And, I’m sure from Holt’s perspective, Tavon was picked too high not to be that No. 1 WR.
I have no idea what Torry is talking about.
Tavon has been ‘quiet in camp’ ?
I think Tavon will be a dangerous weapon
that defenses have to account for on every down —
assuming:
1 Tavon stops dropping passes, and
2 he can stay healthy.Those are open questions.
But as we all know, he’s not a “WR”.
He’s an “X factor” player. He’s a little
of this and a little of that. Whatever
you wanna name it. A TD-maker, maybe.w
vthey’re all sons of bitches. but williams probably is moreso than the average nfl coach.
he IS from the buddy ryan coaching tree after all… that goes for fisher too.
Well if you-all love him so much,
why dont you just become
Ram Fans then and be done with it.w
vwv wrote:
I wonder which coaches have been the biggest jackasses in NFL history? Al Davis? Buddy Ryan? Greg Williams? Harbaugh?Mackeyser wrote:
Truer words may not have ever been spoken… about Fisher AND now Williams…THEY are now our sunsobitches…
Are you guys ambivalent about Williams?
Not that that’s an unlikely response to him.
Just curious to hear that view spelled out.
No, i’m not ambivalent: I can’t stand him.
I think he’s set up to be coach of the year though.
Add this personnel to ‘any’ aggressive, experienced
coach and i think he would have a top five defense.
I would think.w
v<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Stedman said he only had to learn about nine plays at WVU,
but with the Rams they add about 20 per day.w
vCan you imagine what 2011 was like for the rookie receivers?
Thats exactly what i was thinking.
If i were an OC, I’m not sure how i would handle
that. How much do you throw at them?
What should you expect of them?
What are the dangers of throwing too
much at them?Especially if they are basically
‘route runners’ like Stedman.
If you have a ‘freak’ like Calvin
or Moss, you can just give them
a few routes and say “go deep
and catch the ball” — but a guy
like Bailey has to know the routes.
I’m glad BS and Fisher worked him
into the lineup slowly last year.And Tavon had even more to learn
cause he was playing all over the place.w
vrfl wrote:
(Obviously, my criticism here is not directed at Maddy!)You sayin’ I can’t take criticism?
Yup. I saw it too, Maddy.
He didn’t criticize you — flat out,
chose not to.Are you gonna take that from him?
w
v
“We all have it com’in kid”
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