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October 24, 2014 at 9:50 am in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10341
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ParticipantI’m not sure who I’d rather have
on my team: Alex Smith or AustinD.w
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ParticipantYou sure about that link?
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ParticipantI’m working on my Rewind post
for the Chief game now.Man that fourth quarter was
somethin.w
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ParticipantI love to see the guy do well.
But.
To me, he is a very limited QB. He simply does not have the arm to truly stress good defenses.
The game plan for him against SEA was superb. He managed the game, and then made a few plays down the stretch. That’s great …
But it isn’t enough to support a true, Top 10 type offense.
We stole the game with STs and taking advantage of a few opportunities. But Davis is not capable of aggressively taking on a solid defense and picking it apart. He just isn’t that good.
I disagree. I think his arm is good enough
to threaten in medium and deep ranges.I’m not sure what he is exactly yet.
Could be a ‘Montana’ or he could be
a ‘Dalton’. Its just too soon to say.
…i still remember Terry Bradshaw’s first
season — it was ugly.w
vOctober 23, 2014 at 5:02 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10278wv
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Laram
Another 3-4 defenseRams have had their issues in pass protection against 34 defenses.
We all remember I’m sure the sacks and fumbles that occurred in Philly against their 3-4.
The Rams were very weak on the edges against the Niners with their 3-4. The tight ends were porous in pass pro and overall they gave up 5 sacks. Tre Mason was problematic as well.
Well here we go again with probably the best 3-4 defense of the bunch.
Shotty is going to have to dial up another great game and keep these guys off balance or it could be a very long day.
Play action on early downs, 3 step drops, swings, screens and counters should be an ample part of the gameplan.
Please give Jake Long help and if te or back is in the pattern…CHIP!!
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ParticipantWho are the most Vocal/Emotional players
on the Rams now?Britt
AustinD
Cook ?Anyone else?
I do think a team needs
some rowdy players.w
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ParticipantI’d write down my issues,
get them organized,
and then I’d meet with Mr D.w
vOctober 23, 2014 at 1:50 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10255wv
ParticipantSeems about right.
One win does not a season make–especially one that involved some magic tricks. Hey–it’s great, I’m happy to get the win. But I just don’t know what would make me thinks the team has turned some sort of corner. I still see a team that can implode at any moment.
I expect the Chiefs to win this one.
I’m hoping they don’t.
Surprise me, Rams. Surprise me.
Yup. Not expectin a win, either.
It would be nice if AustinD showed
poise and composure early on, unlike
the roadtrip to Philly.And it would be nice if Tre didnt fumble.
And it would be nice if the defense
stopped the Run.And it would be nice if the Refs
didnt decide the game.w
vOctober 23, 2014 at 1:25 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10251wv
Participanthttp://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_odds.shtml
Denver is a 9.5 favorite against the 5-2 Chargers.
Seattle 5 over Carolina
Arizona 2.5 over PhillySaints favored over Green Bay.
No-one seems to be picking the Rams this week.
Folks seem to think its the Same Ole Rams.
Sure would be nice if the Rams
took a giant leap forward.w
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ParticipantHeck, I’da given it to Benny C.
The 75 yard KO return was clutch. Then, making the catch AND NOT FUMBLING IT (although he was pretty cavalier when he threw the ball down after he was down) on the fake punt was awesome. And oh, by the way, he caught a TD too.
Yeah, I could see giving it to Benny too.
They should call the award
the ” Massey Award” btw.w
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ParticipantI have to agree with LadyRamFan on this. I don’t see this show as an Islamaphobic show at all. I think it shows a lot of sympathy for Muslims and shows why some of them might turn to terrorism. Sure there are bad guys on both sides because that’s the way it is.
Gripping show.I’ve never seen it. But…the fact that the Clintons and Obama like it
makes me wary of it. 🙂w
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“…The show is so popular that President Barack Obama himself is a big fan. Obama told People Magazine in December 2011 that “Homeland” was one of his favourite shows. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Obama “requested and received” four sets of “Homeland” Season 1 DVDs from Showtime (the Clintons, unsurprisingly, are also reportedly big fans)…”-
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ParticipantJim Thomas @jthom1
Stedman Bailey named NFC special teams player of the week for his 90-yard return on the “Mountainer” decoy punt return.I wouldnt have given it to Stedman. He did make a nice catch
but the run was pretty easy.
Ida given it to Hekker. I think Hekker’s pass was a thing of beauty. He hit
BC in stride with a perfect pass under incredible pressure.w
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http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/football/falcons-rookie-matthews-struggling-on-bad-ankle/nhkcG/by Michael Cunningham
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The peformance lately of Falcons rookie left tackle Jake Matthews suggests he’s having issues with the left ankle he injured during the season opener.
Bears defensive end Jared Allen was able to pressure quarterback Matt Ryan on Sunday by pushing Mathews backwards with bull rushes. Matthews appeared to have trouble anchoring because of the balky ankle. Matthews allowed two sacks and five other pressures and also was penalized twice for holding.
The previous week Matthews had so many issues in pass blocking against Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul that offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter eventually provided help with running backs.
Allen and Pierre-Paul are both effective pass rushers but it’s clear Matthews, the No. 6 overall pick in the draft, is struggling physically. Matthews sat out the Week 2 game at Cincinnati because of the ankle injury before returning to the lineup.
Coach Mike Smith has praised Matthews’ toughness as he plays through the injury, and Koetter said Matthews also is going through some typical growing pans.
“We’ve got to remember, Jake is six games into his rookie season,” Koetter said. “We’ve already switched him from the right to the left. Jake is a tough guy and he’s a very prideful guy. If Jake is bothered by that ankle, he would never say it. He doesn’t say anything about that. You never hear Jake complaining about anything.”
October 21, 2014 at 11:26 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10152wv
ParticipantThe Chiefs have 17 sacks. Their pass rush is not to be toyed with.
My guess, Rams lose 24-17.
Well, i dunno. If they are the SOSAR
then yeah.
If, by chance, something else
is emerging, then maybe not.I dunno.
They seemed awfully jittery early on
in Philly. It will be interesting
to see if they are ready for Kansas City.w
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October 21, 2014 at 8:55 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10143wv
ParticipantWho is Jake Long going up against?
Is it a good passrusher?I’m gonna start asking that
every week.The Chiefs have a former-probowler who has seven sacks, btw :
Justin Houston
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Houstonw
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ParticipantFisher said the Chiefs will be the most
diverse running-game they will see,
“they’ll run power, they’ll run weakside lead,
and then one-back-stuff and then do read-option…
they attack the edges really good…”He also said the Chiefs are not
asking the QB to do much. They
would hand if off 45 times a game
if they could.w
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JunkmanBefore I get started, this is a Pro Football Focus thread. If you don’t like PFF stats, don’t trust them, don’t believe their acumen, believe they are fundamentally flawed for whatever reason, I’ve heard the arguments, I don’t want to hear it again. Just move along now, please, nothing to see here.
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So, our frenemies over at PFF are heaping their statistical praise on one of our own. This week, for the first time, Rams Nation’s prize rookie Aaron Donald has crept to the top of the leaderboard for NFL DT/NTs.
** OPTIONAL READING. As a reminder of how PFF stats work, it works like golf scoring but upside down – that the higher the score, the better. A “par” for a play or a game is an even zero. Every snap you play, your score can go higher or lower. A good game might give you anywhere from +1 to a +2 where an incredible game could give you +8. I’ve seen as high as +14 for Quinn’s game against Chicago last year. Same thing happens for bad games, where the worse your game, the lower your score. If you play consistently from snap to snap, the more snaps you have, the more positive (or negative) your score will be. PFF scores are also broken down into general categories like Pass Rush and Run Defense and Pass Coverage. Just like in a golf tournament, the numbers are accumulated from game to game.
Aaron Donald’s aggregate overall PFF score of 16.5 leads all NFL DTs/NTs by a slight margin. Second best is Kawaan Short at 16.0, followed by Gerald McCoy at 15.8. I honestly don’t care what the statistical measure is, that’s some great company to be in.
Donald’s run defense score of +9.6 is second in the NFL, while his pass rushing score of 5.1 is 10th best. This is out of 72 total DTs/NTs.
Donald’s top ranking is even more impressive when you consider the relatively few snaps that Donald has had. If you normalize the rankings on a per snap basis, then Donald’s lead widens among the full time DT/NTs, even though he falls 2nd overall to PFF score per snap to Ryan Davis who only comes in to rush the passer and has had 1/3 the snaps.
As one might expect for a rookie, Donald is improving. He hasn’t had a single negative game the entire year. He’s only had one negative category all year, which was pass rushing against Minnesota the first game. The general trend is up, where the Seattle game was his best game at +4.9
There is one more stat that jumps out at you when looking at Donald, a proprietary PFF stat called “Stops”, which is a solo tackle or sack that constitutes an offensive failure. Not only does Donald have 14 stops, a very high number, but this is the same as his tackles and sacks (as tallied by PFF). That is, every time Donald has made a tackle or a sack, PFF considered it an offensive failure. Donald’s 14 stops is tied for 5th among DT/NTs, and 3rd best on a per snap basis (behind a couple of run stuffing guys).
Is there room for improvement in Donald’s game? Certainly. Donald has had 132 pass rush snaps and 90 run D snaps, so it’s a little surprising that his PFF run D score is better than his pass rush score. Coming into the season, my belief was that Donald would have had more impact with his pass rush skills. But the fact that Donald is already having an impact with his run D is a testament to how high of a quality player Donald is.
A note for the DROY race, Donald is neck and neck on PFF grades with Khalil Mack and his 20 stops. But Mack has 170 more snaps that Donald. So if Donald keeps up his current pace (and increased snaps per game), it stands to reason that he should shoot past Mack. No other rookie is even close at the moment.
DPOY, by contrast, already seems like a runaway win for JJ Watt, whose +37.7 beats any player at any position by a wide margin. 2nd best (any position) is Von Miller at +23.7.
Back to Donald, let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. We’re only talking about PFF stats, and only after 6 games for a rookie, so we shouldn’t be calling the engravers in Canton just yet. But love ’em or hate ’em, PFF stats have a remarkable ability to catch people’s attention. If people were not aware of Donald before, you can be pretty sure they are noticing if him now.
October 21, 2014 at 6:22 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10118wv
ParticipantI am concerned about this. Charles look like Marshall Faulk right now.
Can they beat a solid team on the road
this year?Now would be a good time.
At least we know RayRay
wont be penalized in this one.w
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ParticipantI’m finding myself in agreement with Karraker this entire year, and I agree with him here – not that he said anything controversial this week. The use of Tavon Austin is my biggest head-scratcher vis-a-vis Schottenheimer. He doesn’t seem to know what to do with him, OR Austin just isn’t very good.
I was hoping Austin was going to be Eric Metcalf.
Yeah, its not about ‘getting Tavon his touches’.
Its about what kind of routes will give
him the best chance to use his special skills.I do NOT think lining him up in the backfield and
running him up the get is using him correctly.
I also dont think throwing him those stupid little flairs
is using him correctly. Martz would know how to use him.He needs to get the ball farther out where there’s
more space and less defenders.w
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Participantenh — M.Lynch had some big runs called back. He had a
better day against the RamsD than the stats show.It is noteworthy that AustinD had a 128 rating
against the Seattle D.w
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ParticipantYep. The WR’s are respectable, which is a tremendous leap forward compared to where they were just two seasons ago.
In 2012 this team was starting Danny Amendola and Brandon Gibson.
Brandon
F#^@%*$
Gibson
Wow.
I watched some of the Bills Vikes game on replay.
Watkins looks like an allpro already.Rams coulda had him, and then picked A.Donald
and then taken an OLinemen in the second round.I dunno.
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vOctober 21, 2014 at 11:31 am in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10099wv
Participant…if the rams win on the road
in Kansas City, i think we have
to consider them wildcard
contenders.So, i’m in favor of winning,
myself.I’m thinking maybe they can
fake a fake-punt, and then
do a drop-kick.w
vOctober 21, 2014 at 11:14 am in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10097wv
ParticipantThe rams would miss out.
Division winners would be:
Cardinals
Cowboys
Lions
PanthersWildcards would be:
Packers and Eagles (5-2 and 5-1)49ers and Seahawks wold miss the playoffs.
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ParticipantFor me the most positive change
this season has been the
play of the receivers — they
have become…respectable.
Not great or excellent
but…respectable.If Greg Robinson continues to
improve, it may be that Snisher
made the right choice of GR
over Watkins. Too soon to tell.w
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ParticipantI also missed the game PA, then watched it on Replay. I’ll miss next week’s game, too. We might be on to something.
I discovered if you run REPLAY backwards
you can actually go back in time.
But only to the Linehan years. So
i dunno if its worth it.w
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Participanthttp://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2024829366_millen21xml.html
Seattle reporter analysis of the Lossw
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ParticipantExcellent. Not too long ago, Pettis’ level of talent would have made him a starter on this team. Now he’s been cut.
I feel bad for Pettis, but it’s a good sign for this football team.
Agreed.
I’m a little disappointed in Britt though.
I was hoping he’d be more of an impact player.w
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ParticipantHe has impressed the hell out of me
for a guy thats only started a few games.Still too soon to tell for sure
what his limitations are.He might be ‘Dalton’
he might be ‘Fitzpatrick’
he might be Montana,
he might be a lot of things.w
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Participantwv wrote:
Can you imagine the feelings on the team
and among the fans, if the Rams had punted
and the Seahawks had marched down the field
and kicked the FG: 29-28Rams blow a 21-3 lead.
Imagine the mood on the message boards
O dear.
The Chief game looks inter esting.
Alex Smith is good but he aint mobile.
Maybe Ogletree wont wiff on him.w
vYeah, to me, Fisher going for the fake punt was the smallest gamble he could make.
If the fake punt isn’t successful, the Seahawks have the ball deep in Rams territory. They would score rather quickly, leaving the Rams enough time to at least have a shot at scoring themselves. The Rams led by two points so no matter if Seattle scored a FG or TD, the Rams would still only be one score down with timeouts remaining.
If he punts the ball, the Seahawks would be have more field to cover so they would be able to run the clock down before their inevitable score to go ahead. And let’s not kid ourselves – them scoring would have been inevitable.
So to me the fake punt was an easy call by Fisher. He really had no other choice.
Exactly.
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