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November 12, 2014 at 5:54 pm in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11726wvParticipant
When the schedule came out, I pointed to this game this week as the surprise win in ’14. I’m sticking with it. Denver is on the third game of a 3 game road trip. The Rams’ defense is growing stronger each game. Rams coming off a three game road trip will play better at home, and defeat the Broncos Sunday. After, everyone will be questioning what happened to the Broncos, just like they did when the Rams beat Seattle and SF.
Good to see you on
the board I-man.Denver’s not in the NFC West
so the rams cant beat them.
Its algebra.w
vwvParticipantThat wasn’t an “INT”–that is, he didn’t decide to throw to the wrong place with the result being a pick.
That’s when they found out the quad was bad. He tried to heave it out of bounds but didn’t have his legs so the ball had less power on it.
I dont remember reading that anywhere.
Therefore, you must by a vile lying liar.
Pistols at dawn.w
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LaramWhen your qb says himself “I’ve gotta quit looking at the rush, and keep my eyes downfield” That’s a problem!!
Hill is a veteran who has seen every blitz you can run IMO.
He knows how to identify blitzes pre-snap and where the free blitzer is. He can read defenses, and process information quicker.
In the NFL experience is invaluable, which is what I think the Rams need right now.
We’ve all seen Austin Davis now and know he’s not the future.
No reason to keep riding him now.
Bring on Hill.
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I’ve shown too many stills and posted game plans of what defenses would do to Davis.When Davis played against any type of respectable defense, he folded.
He has thrown 4 Pick 6’s in the 4th qtr, and 2 fumbles returned for TD’s. That’s -42.
You can get a back-up off the scrap heap to do that.
I want to win games, I could care less at this point about trying to see if I have a freaking back-up on the roster.
I’ll worry about that in the off season, right now as a coach, you better be worried about W’s!!
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PS. WV, remember when we could be proud of the team? Sure, they lost Conference title games. And they couldn’t match up with the Whiners in their glory. But they always played tough football.No one thought SOSAR. We were the Rams. We knew how to defend and run the ball. Even when we lost, we did it with pride.
Damn. What would it feel like to think that people actually RESPECTED us? Can’t remember.
I feel the same way.
Well, it would not surprise me
in the least if this team was 11-5
in season FOUR.I’m sorry, but I’m a ram fan
and it had to be said 🙂w
vwvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Year FOUR. Its all about year FOUR
Or five. I forget.
Or six.w
vYep. It’s like the sardonic slogans developed by war-weary GIs in WW II:
“Home alive in ’45”
(Can’t remember the ’46 slogan)
“Heaven in ’47”
“Golden Gate in ’48.”I think a significant mistake
had to be the decision to go with
Jake Long, the former all pro,
but injured LT. It was a gamble
that cost them. Jake just
wasnt an allpro anymore
and was too inconsistent.And i was all for the
signing at the time.Ah well.
w
vwvParticipantPS. WV, remember when we could be proud of the team? Sure, they lost Conference title games. And they couldn’t match up with the Whiners in their glory. But they always played tough football.
No one thought SOSAR. We were the Rams. We knew how to defend and run the ball. Even when we lost, we did it with pride.
Damn. What would it feel like to think that people actually RESPECTED us? Can’t remember.
Well, yeah, it sucks, alright.
But Ram posters are still cool. 🙂
Its 30 degrees here. Winter
has arrived.w
vwvParticipantwvParticipantBreaking my retirement to announce this….Jim Thomas broke the story
What ‘retirement’ ? You CANT retire.
Alrighty then.
Now that, THATS been straightened out,
it’s inter esting news about the
Return of Mr Hill.The Rams continue to…uh…be
the Rams.
The last time we saw Mr Hill
he was throwin a Really bad INT
as i recall. Before that
he looked pretty good.w
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wvParticipantWell, i think it was an idiotic question
from the reporter: “how important is it that you finish games?”
or somethin like that.
And then TJ says, well yeah we gotta finish games.Might as well ask him: How important is it
to get more points than the other team?w
vwvParticipantJim Thomas audio — The stadium issue for the first eleven mins, and then football stuff
wvParticipantHighPlainsDrifter wrote:
Do the Rams have a running game? Do they have a top defense?Yes I think the Rams will have those things.
Some people are seeing the fog of losing.
But I think I see the approaching village through that fog.
Mind you, 1. I could be wrong of course, and 2. so far I don’t see a quarterback in that approaching village. Not yet anyway.
Nice looking bakery, though.
Is it an elite bakery
or only a complimentary Bakery?w
vwvParticipantwvParticipantespn Bronco blog
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http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos
“…..While the Raiders do feature Khalil Mack, who has forced his share of holding penalties and has pressured opposing quarterbacks with some regularity, the Raiders are currently last in the league in sacks with eight. And the Rams’ defensive front, at least the defensive front the Rams have showed the past four games — 16 sacks combined, including eight against the San Francisco 49ers — figures to be a notch above.With Louis Vasquez at right tackle (his first career start at the position), Manny Ramirez at right guard (where Vasquez was an All-Pro last season) and Will Montgomery getting his first start at center, quarterback Peyton Manning wasn’t sacked and the Broncos rushed for 118 yards.
But the Raiders were able to affect Manning and disrupt the Broncos for most of the first half Sunday when the Broncos were in three-WR sets. They got enough push to deflect four of Manning’s passes at the line of scrimmage, forced Manning into an intentional grounding penalty and forced two interceptions, one coming when defensive end Justin Tuck deflected the ball and dove to make the interception — all in the first half.
Including their time with the Titans, Rams head coach Jeff Fisher, assistant head coach Dave McGinnis and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams may have faced Manning more than any coaches in the league. They figure to pound away at the Broncos’ new look, especially to the right side of the offense into Manning’s face as he sets to throw, to see if the group is up to a more significant challenge.
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wvParticipantDo the Rams have a running game? Do they have a top defense? I’m not convinced that the Rams have the “established” components that will take the load off of a young quarterback. I certainly haven’t seen much this season that would indicate that this is the case. The Rams are one of the youngest teams in the league. They could have a couple more young offensive linemen in front of the quarterback, whoever he might be. I don’t believe that the Rams are in the position of those other teams that you mentioned who started young QBs and thrived. A lot can change between now and then, but as of now, color me dubious. I think a young QB plays like a young QB, and the progress of the team is likely to stagnate for a time while the youngster gets acclimated.
I dunno what i think of the offense,
but the defense will be interesting to watch
if Barron is a solid player and if C.Long
can come back strong.As of now, and if it were me, the draft
would be all about QB and OLine and LB.w
vwvParticipantI think i would try Hill
at this point. Why not?w
vNovember 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11635wvParticipantWith Hill as the starter?Maybe.Davis?Absolutely not.
I tend to agree with that.
Austin is a mess right now.
Dunno what Hill is.Course these coaches arent idiots.
If they think Austin gives them
a better chance to win than Hill,
then…..sigh.w
vwvParticipantLook. Everybody around here was worried that I might attempt suicide if the Rams hired Fisher as coach. I made my views known that I consider him to be one of Satan’s minions.
But.
It is precisely BECAUSE I believed that Fisher was in league with Satan that I accepted him as coach.
If it turns out that he isn’t, that he’s just an ordinary evil guy like Colonel Klink,
then I am going to need professional help.Year FOUR. Its all about year FOUR.
Just keep repeating that. 🙂Oh and btw, we’ve been posting together
since, what, 98 now? — its been an honor.
Truly. An honor.Maybe we’ll see another championship
before we die.
Carry on, Z.I gotta go. I’m baking
rice and books.w
v
“I love Zack and he knows that. But this is exactly where we differ!
Zack is in the fetal position, but my head is in the oven! No amount of semantics can change this.”
Zooey’d For LifeNovember 11, 2014 at 7:39 pm in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11628wvParticipantThey’d probly have to knock Peyton out
to do it.I’m lookin forward to seein how
the defense plays against the Denver O.
They might surprise us.The Offense is hopeless, now.
Ah well.w
vwvParticipantWell i hope RFL is wrong about Fisher
being McClellan. I dunno.If the defense really keeps improving
and gels, i will continue to be pretty optimistic.Hard to judge an offense when the franchise QB
is sitting on the bench. Lets see how the Cards
look with Carson gone now.At any rate, i just enjoy the whole ram-fan thing.
I just kinda smile and shake my head during years like this.
It’ll take more than just one decade of futility
to wear me down 🙂w
vhttp://www.nellaware.com/blog/george-b-mcclellan-quotes.html
“Will you pardon me for asking what the horses of your army have done since the battle of Antietam that fatigues anything?”
–President Abraham Lincoln’s question directed to George B. McClellan, who had excused his lack of action in the fall of 1862 because of exhausted horses. McClellan was removed from command soon afterward.“If he had a million men he would swear the enemy has two millions, and then he would sit down in the mud and yell for three.”
–Edwin M. Stanton, the United States secretary of war commenting on General George B. McClellan. McClellan often overestimated the number of enemy forces opposing him, and so he always needed and wanted more men and more supplies before he could take offensive action.It is called the Army of the Potomac, but it is only McClellan’s bodyguard…If McClellan is not using the army, I should like to borrow it for a while.
–Abraham Lincoln on April 9, 1862, regarding George B. McClellan. McClellan often tested Lincoln’s patience because of his failure to take action against the Confederates. This quote is from a note Lincoln eventually decided not to send.General McClellan, if I understand you correctly, before you strike at the Rebels, you want to be sure of plenty of room so you can run in case they strike back.
–This is from Zachariah Chandler, a member of the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War as he was questioning McClellan regarding his inability to take offensive movement against the Rebels.=======
Ultimately, McClellan failed, and history has not been kind to failures. Historian Richard N. Current wrote that “McClellan had his faults. Though fond of Napoleonic poses, he lacked the fighting blood of Bonaparte. He was slow, overcautious, duped by his spies’ fantastic exaggerations of enemy strength. Yet he had real abilities, particularly in drilling troops and inspiring them with loyalty and trust. To some extent his faults were merely defects of his virtues. He sought to make the most of the Union preponderance in men and resources – to win the war by strategy, not butchery.” 13 McClellan biographer Stephen W. Sears called McClellan “inarguably the worst” Union general to head the Army of the Potomac. 14 James Russell Lowell wrote in 1864 that McClellan possessed “every theoretic qualification, but no ardor, no leap, no inspiration. A defensive general in an earthen redoubt not an ensign to rally enthusiasm and inspire devotion.”15 Historian Kenneth P. Williams called McClellan “a vain and unstable man, with considerable military knowledge, who sat a horse well and wanted to be President.”16 Lincoln aides John G. Nicolay and John Hay determined to destroy McClellan’s reputation in their ten-volume biography of the President. “I have toiled and labored through ten chapters over McClellan,” wrote Hay to Nicolay. “I think I have left the impression of his mutinous imbecility, and I have done it in a perfectly courteous manner…It is of the utmost moment that we should seem fair to him, while…destroying him.”17 …
http://abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/abraham-lincolns-contemporaries/abraham-lincoln-and-george-b-mcclellan/wvParticipant“…fluke injury to the Rams’ top deep threat resulted in more damage than anticipated.
“He did just about everything you possibly can to the shoulder,’’ Fisher said. “You talk about rotator cuff, labrum, bicep tendon, just everything. It was a successful surgery, a successful procedure, but he’s going to be immobilized for quite some time.’’
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vwvParticipantI am not a fan of statements like “I need to learn the game is four quarters long.”
That is a meaningless statement, to me, whether coaches say it or players.
w
vhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/13498/austin-davis-not-the-answer-for-rams-at-qb
Wagoner“I didn’t play well enough to win today,” Davis said. “I think the thing I’m learning really quick is you can play well for three and a half quarters but you’ve got to play four. You can’t have a single letdown and right now I’m having those and it’s costing our football team. I’ve got to stay the course, stay strong and keep getting better and eliminate these mistakes, mainly turnovers, that are costing our football team.”
(On the Peterson INTI just underthrew the ball,” Davis said. “I don’t really have an answer for it. I don’t understand it. We got the look we were looking for, I thought Chris ran a good route and won, the ball didn’t go where I wanted it to.”
(On Peterson INT number two)”The second one, I just threw it high and it gets tipped around,” Davis said. “Two critical plays, you can’t turn the football over. We knew coming in that was kind of their thing. They kind of live off the turnover and you saw it there at the end.”
In nine games, Davis’ fourth-quarter passer rating is 68.1 with a QBR of 23.8, which includes a 12.0 and 0.1 on Sunday.
“It can’t happen,” Davis said. “It’s killing our defense. They’re playing their tails off. For me to have those letdowns, it’s really tough. I’ve got to get a lot better and I can’t do that.”wvParticipantzn wrote:
Eternal Ramnation wrote:
When your OL allows 6 sacks we might as well put Hecker back there. Davis is the perfect fit for this horrible OL as he is durable.He won’t win many but when you allow 6 sacks you don’t win anyways.Was that all the OL, though? It’s an important question. I put as much of that on Davis. I don’t think he handles the pressure. There are qbs that handle the blitz, and I don’t think that Davis has that yet.
Yeah, I think most of the sacks could be attributed to him holding the ball too long. He was indecisive.
How did Greg Robinson look?
Better than sammy watkins? 🙂
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vwvParticipantWell are there free agent options at QB next year?
Or is the draft the only avenue.Such a strange year/team. Earlier in the year
a lot of us were thinking the QB situation was lookin
pretty good but the defense was a mess.
Now, of course things are reversed, kinda.Year Three, has not turned out well
has it.I wonder what their record would be if Bradford
was healthy? Would they have won more games?
The same? Fewer?w
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November 10, 2014 at 7:22 am in reply to: combined "today's game" & "arizona game lamentations" threads #11542wvParticipantTypical 2014 Rams — the losses are full
of signs of a good team in the making,
and the wins are full of indications
of a team with issues.w
vwvParticipantwv wrote:
21Dog wrote:
It appears the Austin Davis Bandwagon to Canton has a couple of flat tires.I havent seen the game yet, but i saw the
low-lights, and it looked like the
pick-6 was a catchable ball. Britt
didnt catch it though.I think they still need a WR.
And a QB.w
vBritt could have helped Davis, but it was an off target pass thrown from a short distance.
Yeah, definitely another one of AustinD’s high-balls,
but i’d say 50 percent of it is on Britt. I’ve not
been all that impressed with Britt this year.Davis is obviously, not the answer at QB, btw,
to state the obvious. Granted he’s playing
tough teams, on the road, without Quick, etc.
Still, he’s just too limited.I’m readin Carson is probly done for the
year. ACL, maybe. Too bad. I like the Cards.w
vwvParticipantIt appears the Austin Davis Bandwagon to Canton has a couple of flat tires.
I havent seen the game yet, but i saw the
low-lights, and it looked like the
pick-6 was a catchable ball. Britt
didnt catch it though.I think they still need a WR.
And a QB.w
vNovember 9, 2014 at 8:21 pm in reply to: combined "today's game" & "arizona game lamentations" threads #11505wvParticipantThe cards just win.
They dont look good,
they just win.Its their year.
w
vwvParticipantI’ve been really frustrated with and critical of this D, but I think that you have to give them credit for that game. Gore was not a factor, the young secondary played as well as you could hope for, and the pass rush was ferocious. The final drive was upsetting. Folding when the game is on the line – even when they’ve been dominating to that point – does seem to haunt them repeatedly, and I it was excruciating to see it again Sunday. RFL’s right that when the game was on the line, only a SF mistake saved the game, but aside from that it looked like an entirely different unit.
Well, i think he’s right and wrong.
Cause what i see out of the Rams D
is a continuous display of good plays
(not just ‘ok’ plays, but ‘good’)
followed by bonehead-awful plays.And that is a different animal
than a defense that just constantly
gets outmuscled or outplayed
play after play.The D is not ‘just’ ‘bad’.
Its good ‘and’ bad.
Its weird.Unfortunately it amounts to the same
thing in the short term — losses.There’s hope for the longterm though.
I think.w
vwvParticipantI predict TA scores on a punt return and some great plays from the Rams special teams. On the passing game the Rams should go with the bigger guys Cook Britt Kendricks. The Cards secondary is very good and the only reason they are able to blitz so much.The Cards OL sucks I predict the wide awake giant (DL) leaves a cleat print on Palmers butt.
Well, i dunno. I dont foresee Palmer holding the ball
very long. I think the Cards will just
dink and dunk and wait for the Rams
to self-destruct.Sure would be inter-esting though,
if the Rams were in last place,
but beat the Seahawks, 49ers and Cards
all in a four game stretch.w
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wvParticipantWell, the Cards remind me of the old Patriots.
Teams lose and cant figure out how it happened.I’d guess the Rams will keep it close
and lose in the fourth quarter as Palmer
drives the length of the field against
the Rams D.w
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