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if they can’t find a long-term solution at qb they are in big trouble. that’s the one thing they’re missing. might be davis? might be someone else. but yeah. they need to find one.
Well yes, better QB play would help,
but even if Bradford were playing this would
still be a Good-Bad team. They woulda
won a game or two more, i guess,
but the Defense would still be the defense
and the special teams would still be inconsistent
and the OLine would still be the Oline, etc.Something is very Wrong-Right
with this team.Its weird.
w
vHow many of the starters in Arz were there before Arians?
Pretty much their entire defense, right?
The defense that started against Phil avgs. 5-6 years experience. Maybe more like 7.
Rams D avgs. 3 or so.Stuff like that matters IMO.
I dunno. Three years seems like
enough time to build a defense to me.
Especially when you start off with
Quinn and Long and Laurinaitis.I do think youth is a big factor,
but some coaching and personnel decisions
have also been factors. They went
with Dunbar, Finnegan, JJ, Ogletree, Greg Williams, etc.
I dunno if those were the right choices
anymore.w
vHerzog wrote:
But did Fisher inherit a mess? The team seems to be exactly what it was when he took it over…..a .500 team with massive injuries and an Ill timed coordinater change with a massively bad impact…..he has built the team to that exact point it was when he took it over.I don’t agree with that. For one, injuries are not the fault of the “builder.” If you mean they are still losing, well yeah. But then, you can have a good team (in terms of overall talent) that has a bad year. Depends on the reasons. In terms of the talent level…Spags inherited nothing. Just plain zip. Fisher inherited what Spags added and then added to that.
I just think this team had its heart taken out when they lost Bradford AGAIN and if you go back to when it happened, everyone was saying they expected a lot from him this year.
To me the big story of 2014 is making huge unbelievable mistakes and then collapsing in their aftermath. To me more than anything, this is the “psych 101 season.” When you watch them you can see them lose momentum.
At the same time, if you cancelled the 2014 Rams and let all their players go, there would be a long list of them who would get picked up by other teams. That’s not as true of the 2011 team.
Jenkins is a good example of this. Jenkins played well this year…but people remember the one big boneheaded, (as it turns out) game-costing error. And. Now he’s hurt.
In terms of the future, look at Robinson and Donald. You know what Greg Cosell said about Robinson? He wasn’t as pro ready as Matthews, but that once he got up to speed as a pro player, he would be in the conversation for the best tackles to ever play the game. Not best in the 2014 draft class, one of the best ever.
So I am frustrated by 2014, but I also see that 2014 is as talented a team as we have seen for years. They’re also massively mistake prone and easily put into a funk by those mistakes. That’s all (to me) a confidence thing.
And I actually agree with some of Miklasz’s points:
I do think Fisher’s program should be further along by now, and I won’t defend him on that. I haven’t hesitated to criticize Fisher. But some reconstruction projects take longer than others. Especially when the roster has been torn up by injuries.
• Stability — and giving Fisher a chance at a fourth season — is preferable to another regime change, and another roster turnover, and another round of chaos. Fisher is the team’s third head coach since 20066th, actually, if you go back to 2005 and count Martz plus count 2 interim coaches (Vitt and Haslett).
Well, i dunno. Losing Bradford was big, no doubt, but its the
defense that has been biggest disappointment.Also, i dunno that I’d agree that JJ played well
before the bonehead mistake. I saw some stats
somewhere that indicated otherwise.I think one major criticism of Fisher-Snead
that I wonder about is the Free Agent signings:
Wells, J.Long, Finnigan, Cook.I’m still not sold on Mr Quick either, btw, fwiw.
And Tavon and Brockers and Ogletree are mysteries to me
at this point.There’s a lot of good and bad
with this regime. I could definitely
see Fisher being here five years
and having a .500 record.w
vwv wrote:
I dont like him much either,
but he was in charge of other
defenses besides the Saints.
So, if we are gonna look at history
i think we have to consider Buffalo
and Washington too.There ‘are’ people out there
who think the league has
“figured out” GW. I dunno.Personally, i have to wait
and see how he does in the second
half of the year.He’s flunked the first half.
w
vHe didn’t have the personnel in New Orleans but still made it work best he could and one year was even top 5. I don’t count Buffalo because he wasn’t the coordinator. Either way, he has had top 10 defenses his whole career.
And, I don’t think anyone figured him out. So now the Rams lead the league in tackles for loss and they only lose because they make incredible game-turning mistakes, but their defense has been figured out? (?)
Unless injuries completely undermine them, they’re just going to get better on defense. What they need to just STOP is the boneheaded errors resulting in huge big plays. But that’s execution. It’s coaching if it’s the EXACT SAME errors game in and game out, but these guys just keep coming up with new ones.
Personally, when it comes to liking or not liking Wms, I think he did his time and gets another chance. People can disagree with that and I completely understand.
As far as ‘figuring him out,’ ive read some comments
that his blitzes just arent working. The blitzers
aint disrupting anything.Now there could be a million other reasons for that
(if its trut) — but one reason could be,
the league has ‘figured out’ GW.
Your position is the league
has not figured him out.
Mine is, I dunno.w
v36 minute mark on is worth listening to. I’d even
call it a Must-Listen —S.Savard:
“where do you think your run defense is right now?”Fisher:
“I think the perception is, we are a difficult
team to run against…”w
vI believe that Gregg Williams bears the lion’s share of the blame for the condition of this defense. It was a young, promising defense last season, and expected to be among the league’s best this season. The cast is largely the same, minus Chris Long (but add a talented Aaron Donald), and another year of experience under their belt. Enter Gregg Williams and they can’t find their asses with a mirror. I think we need to stop labeling the draft picks as mistakes and apply that label to Williams. He was a horrible hire and has set this defense back to where it was two or three years ago. I think he is an egomaniac who constantly feels the need to demonstrate his genius and has over-complicated everything. He needs to go. He has his own good in mind and not the good of the team. The season is essentially over, so I see no reason not to fire him now. Bring in someone who is driven to put his players in a position to succeed, not to put himself in a position to succeed.
Well…i feel ya.
But i think zn’s notion is worth considering.
They may still be adjusting to a new system
and they ‘may’ start ‘getting it’. The future
will unfold 🙂 We’ll see. Nine more games.Its the Rams so what will probably happen iz,
the defense will improve….as the offense
collapses.w
vhttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000419401/article/buccaneers-trade-mark-barron-to-rams?campaign=twitter_atn_sessler
Vid on the trade“barron will play the R.Harper role with the rams”
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