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wvParticipantLooking at the old Martz (2000-20005) drafts, makes me appreciate McSnead.
Their drafting was fantastically terrible.
The 1970s, though.
1971
1 Isiah Robertson
1 Jack Youngblood
3 Dave Elmendorf71 is definitely in the top five Ram drafts of all time, i would think. I cant make it number one, because i know Deacon was drafted in the four hundred and seventy first round in 1961.
Btw, who would you draft first Ohtani or Wembanyama?
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vwvParticipantThe strength of that seventh round pick almost does make up for the rest of it
Yeah, the 7th round was never the same after that.
Looking at the old Martz (2000-20005) drafts, makes me appreciate McSnead.
2003
1 Jimmy kennedy DT
2 Pisa Tinoisamoa LB
3 Kevin Curtis WR
4 Shawn Mcdonald WR
4 Dejuan Groce DB
5 Dan Curley FB
5 Shane Walton DB
5 Kevin Garret DB
6 Scott Tercero G
7 Scott Shanle LB
7 Richard Angulo TEwvParticipantHaving accessed this trade on both a macro and micro level, and after an exhaustive in-depth analysis of its intricacies and nuances, I officially declare this trade to be pretty good.
So you’re saying it was better than the Marshall Faulk trade. We shall see.
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vOctober 28, 2025 at 7:28 am in reply to: setting up Saints game … injuries, broadcast map, etc. #158957wvParticipantFacing a back-up, rookie QB, for a 1-win team.
I don’t like it.
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vOctober 27, 2025 at 9:07 pm in reply to: around the league going into (and arriving at) week 9 games #158952wvParticipantMan, I saw the replay of the tush-push ‘non-fumble’ by Jalen Hertz and that is one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantHuge loss by the 49ers to the Texans.
Seattle 5-2
Rams 5-2
49ers 5-3
Cards 2-5
—Next up:
Rams (-13.5) vs Saints
49ers (-2.5) vs Giants
Seahawks (-3.5) vs CommanderswvParticipantDidnt realize Pennix wasnt playing today. (bone bruise on his knee)
Kirk Cousins looked totally out of sync with his WRs.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantA lunk-head view by Greg Olson.
wvParticipantRobert Bailey. Cornerback. 1994.
wvParticipantFitz & Whit | Ryan Fitzpatrick & Andrew Whitworth
wvParticipantMight as well skim the Rams remaining ten games. The 49er game in two weeks, is what-you-call a Must-Win, I’d say.
I’m assuming they will beat the Saints and be 6-2. That next stretch 49er-Seahawks-Bucs is inter esting.
Saints
49ers
Seahawks
Bucs
Panthers
Cardinals
Lions
Seahawks
Falcons
CardinalswvParticipantWell…we want the Eagles, 49ers, Bears, Bucs, and Packers to lose.
And the Cowboys just on principle.
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vwvParticipantIts amazing to me, that a bunch of NFL asshole billionaire capitalists created this NFL cap thing. I cant believe its lasted this long, either. I know Jerry Jones has pushed against it from time to time, but in the end he’s always backed off.
Turns out that when a rising tide lifts all boats, it’s a good thing.
Who would have thunk?
Indeed. …didnt the 49ers owner try and cheat back in the 90s or something? I think I’m remembering that correctly. Tried to give players money under the table to get around the Cap.
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vwvParticipantIn the NFL its more of a meritocracy type thing. I think.
The NFL model is better. I don’t know enough about it to know why. But in the NFL, you don’t get owners who pocket the gate/etc. profits, and just let team equity grow,all while functionally acting as a farm system for other teams. AFAIK,all teams spend ~ the same amount on payroll, give or take a percent.
That is why, though, I think a cap isn’t enough. There has to be a window. You can’t let the Marlins spend 27% of their revenue on payroll while the Mets spend 90% of their revenue, especially when the Mets have substantially more revenue.
Well, the NFL cap does solve that issue if I’m not mistaken, because the cap isnt just about the top-end it also takes care of the floor. Every team HAS to spend to the cap. No team could do the ‘Pirates’ thing and just pocket money. There is a ceiling but also a floor.
Its amazing to me, that a bunch of NFL asshole billionaire capitalists created this NFL cap thing. I cant believe its lasted this long, either. I know Jerry Jones has pushed against it from time to time, but in the end he’s always backed off.
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vwvParticipantNow, does anyone really think the Dodgers or the Blue Jays would be in the World Series if they payrolls like the Chicago White Sox ( 78 million)
Do you think the Pirates would be in the playoffs if they spent $125 million more on salaries? Because they made $200m in profit last year. Where’s that money going? Don’t just look at the gross salary numbers. Look at the % of revenue that is going to salaries.
I’m conflicted on this. Money is a factor, and a lot of money is an advantage. One of them. And a salary cap might compress the top somewhat. But I don’t think it would “level” the field. It might make the playoffs a bit more likely for the teams in the second tier, but I think the Pirates’ business model is to keep salaries low, and keep the profits for themselves.
well, you make an interesting point about the profits and the Pirates ‘losing is more profitable’ business model. I’m not bizness-savvy enuff to really analyze that stuff.
But i do know whether its my simplistic-version or your more-nuanced-version — in MLB MONEY makes the league a joke. And the NFL has solved all that. The NFL is a near perfect system, it seems to me.
And believe me, i’m not fixated on Pirates. Its the whole bottom-third of MLB, not just the Pirates.
I keep thinking about that graphic up there of yours showing the World Series winners over the last quarter century. Only one from the bottom tier. That says it all to me. There could be no such diagram in the NFL. Because there IS no ‘bottom tier’ in money.
In the NFL its more of a meritocracy type thing. I think.w
vwvParticipant16 minute mark. A rams stat.
October 22, 2025 at 7:53 am in reply to: The Stafford thread…update 12/31: huge S.I. article #158822wvParticipantHow Matthew Stafford turns defenders to stone
October 21, 2025 at 8:54 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158819wvParticipantThe greatest player of all time is…
October 21, 2025 at 4:25 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158812wvParticipantFor example. In being pedantically literal, I am not free-lancing in this post.
And what about when Kurt invited Brenda into the huddle to talk about jesus ?
You’ve glossed over that completely.Shoot, I dont think you even remember those St Louis days. You need to fix that.
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vOctober 21, 2025 at 4:20 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158811wvParticipantBrady’s four best WR/TE
October 21, 2025 at 2:33 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158809wvParticipantSimsdoe@Sims_Doe
Can you elaborate more on why you think you might struggle in a KC offense?Kurt Warner@kurt13warner
From what I see in the outside, it’s not as defined as I would like! The route combinations don’t always line up with my sense of timing, spacing and putting players in conflict… there is a bit more free-lancing within the structure of plays that is not something I liked!I wanted everything detailed and defined by guys around me, so I could be more definitive with my reads and anticipation… more free flowing movement would have given me more hesitation, even though I think I “FEEL” (seeing spaces & openings not everyone can see) the game in a very similar manner to PM2!
So. You are raising the freelancing debate again. I see.
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vwvParticipantOk, lets look at the 10 2025 MLB playoff teams.
Of the ten teams,
6 had top-third payrolls.
3 had mid-tier payrolls.
1 had bottom-third payroll.That is pretty typical. 1 out of 10 from the bottom-third. 9 out of 10 from the upper tiers.
Now, does anyone really think the Dodgers or the Blue Jays would be in the World Series if they payrolls like the Chicago White Sox ( 78 million)
Payroll rankings:
Dodgers 1st ( 350 million. world series)
Yankees 4th
Cubs 5th
Padres 6th
Toronto 7th ( 255 million. world series)
Boston 10th
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Mariners 11th
Tigers 14th
Reds 19th
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Cleveland 26th
—October 21, 2025 at 7:59 am in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158802wvParticipantPFF grading controversy. In the Chiefs 31-0 win over the Raiders.
Mahommes Stat line: 26 for 35, 3 TDs, 286 yards, Zero turnovers.
Geno Smith stat line: 10 for 16, for 67 yards, zero TDs, zero turnovers.PFF grades:
Mahommes 62.2
Geno 67.2w
vOctober 20, 2025 at 6:19 pm in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 10/20 – 10/21 … including some Baldinger #158799wvParticipantNFC West is not very good at running.
Rams are 22nd in rushing so far. (103 yards per game.)
Arizona is 18th.
Seattle is 20th.
San Fran is 25th.wvParticipantSF radio guys more upbeat about the 49ers than at any time in the past year or more.
Why not? They are 5-2, are 3-0 in the NFC West, and have a last place schedule. Kittle’s back. Aiyuk, Pearsall, and Purdy are expected back this season, and probably Jennings. Mac Jones has not been a drop-off from Purdy in the least.
Mainly, they love Robert Salah and McCaffrey’s return to form last night. Optimism reigns out here, and it’s depressing.
Yeah, and as a lot of talking heads have noted, so far, this might be Shannahan’s best coaching job. They have had a shit-ton of KEY injuries and free agent losses and they dont have a star QB — and it has not mattered. Same with Tampa, btw.
One possible future in the omnivers that makes me smile, is this one — San Fran sweeps the Rams and wins the West. But the Rams make it as a wildcard. And they play in the playoffs. And McVay goes 2-0 against Shannahan in the Playoffs.
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vwvParticipantStafford now leading the NFL in TD passes, with 17. Dak has 16. Goff, Mahommes, Rogers have 14.
https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/passing/2025/REG/all/passingtouchdowns/DESC
October 19, 2025 at 8:46 pm in reply to: around the league week 7 stuff, including games & aftermaths #158771wvParticipantBroncos score zero in the first three quarters. And 33 in the fourth quarter. To win 33-32. O my.
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vwvParticipantFor me this is an easy one. Fuck them picks.
Go falcons.
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